Be careful with letting inexperienced crane operators do difficult lifts. They might seem easy enough but what happens when the inexperienced loose control and faith in him self
That operator was pretty dam good. He was doing a good job of trying to catch the swing. Remember he is on a ship and it's rolling with the seas. When he realized the timing of the roll was increasing the swing, he did the right thing and slowed the swing by touching the water and stabilizing the situation. Besides, they don't put newbies on offshore rig cranes.
J. D. .... inexperienced? Maybe so, but how else does anyone learn? Through experience, trial, and error. Besides, i give him credit. He used a safe method to stop the swing. His method = noone getting hurt. That's what is most important.
WS L, not too sure about that. Too many times he started his left swing while the load had swung to the right. That just made the load swing too fast. As the load swing too fast the centrifugal force caused the load to swing out. So now the load is not only swinging in and out, but also left and right. He did stop the left and right swing once by moving the boom over the load at the top of the swing, but he mostly was late taking action to keep the load under control. Strange looking crane. That horizontal section of the boom makes in and out swing difficult to control. A smooth beginning and ending of swing is the only control he had over the in and out swing.
I have quite a bit of experience operating a crane. On dry ground. I would imagine that on a rocking ship with wind factored in, that this operator wasn't doing too bad.
I've run cranes...the guys pretty good...look at the block on the end of the boom swinging when he goes towards the water...that roll is intense...THE TITLE SHOULD BE INEXPERIENCED RIGGERS, WHERES THE DAMN TAG LINE?
Being a crane operator myself I must say this crane operator is well experienced and did just the right thing to move the container away, stoped the load from swinging and the proceeded back to the deck . Hats off to him. Very safe indeed . 👍👌👏🙏
crane on a rolling ship plus crane movement plus the load swing probably little bit of wind swing. This operator he knows what he was doing and you can see why he dip that load in the water. However, from a video gamer standpoint this seems so easy.
Hahaha if you are good with a crane, you can control that with ease. I've done it for years. Work at a port with a ships crane, do around 13-18 loads an hr.
as a offshore crane op of 38 years ive operated cranes from ships to fixed installations, semi subs. fpsos etc and as such can say that .that operation was piss poor. That guy should not be in a crane. its a basic element of operating a crane is knowing how to stop a swing in a load .god help him if it was rough, it should be titled idiots in offshore cranes. Clearly an inexperienced operator
He's horrible at catching the ball. I can tell that he understands the concept, but he's not using the throttle to make the crane responsive enough to catch the load in time. The guy sucks. I would of kicked him out of the seat.
Best way to catch the swing and you are learning is to... catch the swing 1 way first.. you choose either left or right with the slew or luff up or luff down with the boom. Good way to learn how to do this for newbie.. if you have a fishing rod at home. Pull it out and go through the movements cranes make. And visually see and move the rod around. Try to keep the hook steady and luff up and pause, let the hook swing towards you.. then as the hook swings past like a pendulum luff the rod up and try get the hook to stop swing. Vice versa, try it swinging the hook left or right. Same principle as above except you move left or right, as you get better, try doing all two movements at the same time. Crane driving is a skill of eye and hand coordination.. and experience comes with time on the deck hooking up loads and placing them. If you can guide a crane on the ground with a blindfold on the crane operator.. without damaging anything weaving in and out of obstacles.. on the blind lifts.. you should be able to handle a operating a crane.
The sling attached to the container is long and there is no tail rope. I'm a crane operator too the method he did to stop the swing is the most safest way. Quick thinking with experience that's what he did.
Offshore in lifts like this you don't have tag line, and no he don't make it right, those machines (cranes) are made for those caind conditions 90% of the time. He never ever showed drop his colegas food containers inside the water, now nobody eat! He has to stop the balance with the crane, those are the best offshore crane to work, and has a lot of technology onboarding, including one that helps to stop those caind balance, the hc competition.
Weather condition is obviously bad. Rigger on the supply boat did not provide long tag lines to control movement of load. Fortunately the crane operator is experience and knows what to do.
Longer tag line would help that operator out. Water and wind are monsters. If you’ve ever operated on a water vessel and in high wind conditions you know what he’s going through. Hard to catch a load in those conditions.
I run a crane on land so this is just speculation but he was smart enough not to try and land the seacan while it was swinging wildly, and lowered it (raising it often makes it swing more unless you can move the crane into the swing), and in the end stabilized it by dipping it in the water. It's not an easy job and it's a visible job and there's always someone who hasn't done it offering their two cents. It all comes down to not hurting anyone, wrecking anything and getting the job done.
Crane Operator did excellent job. 1st Crane is not on ground. 2nd wind blowing and moving LOAD. 3rd Operator stopped swing with touching hard/soft surface.
Experienced CrOp ! Stupid Navigator \ DPO \ Captain !! Keep in DP... Keep vessel AGAINST swell at time crane operation !!!!!!!!!! Only against SWELL !!!
He filled the Connex with water and soaked all the items inside. That is why you should always plan before you lift so that you don't make the wrong decision during a crane lift.
Experienced CrOp ! Stupid Navigator \ DPO \ Captain !! Keep in DP... Keep vessel AGAINST swell at time crane operation !!!!!!!!!! Only against SWELL !!!
How does one get experience on a offshore rig if they never put newbies in it? No one is born knowing how to do this so what situation can a individual prepare themselves for offshore crane operating?
DIY Media ... agreed. It's the only way that ANY operator, no matter what the heavy machinery is, gets experience and learns how to operate in any condition and situation. How else did all those " old school badass " learn how to operate under any circumstances? Trial and error.
Normally we progress from stable rigs to floaters. I started on a liftbarge then to a jackup then I moved to a floater then I moved to a drill ship. From over 25 yrs in the crane seat (offshore) It looked to me the guy was off when he tried to catch the load. This made it swing more, Then it looks like he was wondering what to do (crane not moving) this non action made the load swing even more. It takes many years to get good, especially on any kind of floater. BUT to his credit he did dump it in the water to stop the swing. He has to get credit for that. As for his future in the crane seat I would hesitate to put him in the crane alone. For the fact he clearly froze up and the swing became really bad as a result. All this and the guy is making 100,000 a yr for 6 months work. I bet he tries to hold that seat hahah
With any Heavy Equipment, you should have at least some weeks on the ground alongside big working machines to get a sense of their scope before you touch any control ...or you might just get tossed onto the job when your rigger wanders off, like I did LOL If you don't have an uncle or affirmative action, your best approach is to seek work as a 'Ground Man', understanding that you'd be competing in a crude yet efficient working-class meritocracy. These things, you have tons and tons of distant force at your fingertips in a somewhat-unpredictable setting. In my world, I want an experienced operator on the machine. Work your way up from BobCat, or whatever :-)
You'd hope that the newbie had some vertical builds experience. The basic don't change with crane operation.. only the environment. Catching the swing is everything in safe lifting and placing of loads. Off shore you do have the swell and roll, but as an operator you must understand if the load is swing towards you.. you jib up.. or vice versa if loads swinging away from cab. The guys on tag lines can't do much if the operator is doing the exact opposite. Fuk I'd let the tag line go too. Good luck to the newbie though it's a tough lesson out there. I'm sure the lesson is learned now and can only get better.
There should've been a few guys on the tag line from the start, that most likely would've halted the swing. They could've easily tossed a couple of lines from the barge he was picking off of. But good job getting control of it.
Rigger holding the Tag Line, would have drag him along, and load was unpredictable at one point. Should have waited when lifted from the vessel, lower down at sea level, once the load stabilize ,slew onboard so that rigger can hold the tag lines. Its a AHC Knuckle Boom probaly on DP vessel, Their Aux line are not very effective for open sea transfer/ low on rated capacity, however its rather calm seas , just long swell. I would say rather ignorant, cant say inexperince , most of them are Stage 3.
Yea I ran a crane on aboard a ship for years....you have to account for the swing of the ship....and take that...when you pick everything.........and watch everything......if it looks like it’s going to start to start to swing......just ground......the....load....prior........it gets swinging....never let get much higher much higher then about a foot or so off the deck....as your crossing the deck......that’s way when you’re crossing....the deck....you can...control....yourself loads....at all times.....all you have to do is just ground it.......if you have to.....and you never have what this guy has this problem in this problem
There is a long ass tag line missing on two corner of the load for the rigger to hold some of the swing of the load for the crane operator to have better control of the load because he is at sea and the vessel is swinging as well, the men did his best.
Offshore in lifts like this you don't have tag line, and no he don't make it right, those machines (cranes) are made for those caind conditions 90% of the time. He never ever showed drop his colegas food containers inside the water, now nobody eat! He has to stop the balance with the crane, those are the best offshore crane to work, and has a lot of technology onboarding, including one that helps to stop those caind balance, the hc competition.
Offshore in lifts like this you don't have tag line, and no he don't make it right, those machines (cranes) are made for those caind conditions 90% of the time. He never ever showed drop his colegas food containers inside the water, now nobody eat! He has to stop the balance with the crane, those are the best offshore crane to work, and has a lot of technology onboarding, including one that helps to stop those caind balance, the hc competition.
I don't know if the man was "inexperienced" or not. But I find it difficult to see how you can lift steadily a container when the crane itself tilts with the boat or barge heaving with the waves… which are somewhat noticeable : the sea is not completely flat. Increasing momentum is inevitable. His only "fail" maybe that he pinned the crane too fast. But I'm not sure …
Should have waited when lifted from the vessel, lower down at sea level / eqv to deck level, remain at high jib configuration, in order for load not to offlead or sidelead, once the load stabilize ,slew onboard so that rigger can hold the tag lines. Its a AHC Knuckle Boom probaly on DP vessel, Their Aux line are not very effective for open sea transfer/ low on rated capacity, however its rather calm seas , just long swell. I would say rather ignorant, cant say inexperince , most of them are Stage 3.
As others have said the operator did well to control the load. A left to right swing is easier to control as the operator swings the jib in the direction of the load swing, thereby counteracting the swing. Away and to the crane swing is a lot more difficult unless it's a dockside crane with rapid jib in and out action. A solution is to rotate the crane 90 deg and then deal with it as a left to right swing. The other is to ground the load or in this case water dip it, leaving a load to swing out of control could put the load out of radius and into an overload situation which in turn could cause a jib failure or crane tip over. I also drove a tower crane and if ever the wind caught the load man I trolleyed in like mad to catch the swing. I didn't fancy dropping from 200 ft.
You realize the very camera you using to record with can't be kept still? The entire barge/ ship is rolling that`s a difficult situation to operate a crane in. Cranes require stability.. You obviously don't appreciate or are knowledgeable on lifting. That operator is exceptionally good even took a risky manouevre to stabilize the container.
This can just happen it’s a weather related issue maybe he should have waited before moving the load and the ditch in the water is an old technique that still holds true today but rarely used
Negative comments here are from those who never operated on water. The guy did the right thing by dunking the load. Swells and wakes are factors you don't find on land. Try catching the load under those conditions. Two tag lines also correct. Been there done that.
It was very smart of the crane operator to get it away from the workers and to think fast enough to do what he did, he could work on my ship crane any day. 👍🏼
A "Perfect Storm" of harmonics with the motion of the waves and the weight of the load along with the distance from the load to the end of the crane. Since the title was mi-leading I am surprised there wasn't a girl in a bikini operating a crane picture for click-baiting.
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hands up those that were not screaming 'swing it round' and that will stop the SOAB from swing about ffs. At his worse case scenario dip it in the sea. Once done and in place. Pack your bait bag and get the f*** of that ship and go get a job in a cheap clothes store cos he's not a machine operator
Wind, waves, and no tag line. Guy wasn’t doing that bad tbh. I operate cranes on land and once it starts to swing in a circle their isn’t much you can do to catch your drift. You just kinda have to let it be till it settles down. Which why loads always need to be controlled with tag lines. By osha standards it needs to have Atleast 2 ropes hanging.
Technically you can slow or even stop the swing entirely by moving the crane in the direction of the swing. If what you are moving is swinging north then to south. You just move it with it. When it goes north you move it north. It slows and if your really good, fully stops it. You could just stop moving and it will slowly stop. But with the waves and the wind? No dice. And no tag lines. I believe this guy did excellent in the since of no one got hurt and he did it as safe as he could. So I too believe he didn’t do bad. Although I’ve never used a crane in the ocean so who knows.
