Infantry and Artillery at it's best in Napoleon Total War 

His movie was awesome even if it wasnt historically accurate

​​@@Fire-jk8ye His movie was pissed vomited shit. If you appreciated it you're an irdiot 👍🏻.

@@Fire-jk8ye it sucked ass even if you ignore the historical inaccuracy

nah@@milkyway208O

Why?@@Fire-jk8ye

You can replicate that in Shogun 2: Fall Of The Samurai with Gatling Guns as well. It is as satisfying - if not more satisfying - to see them mulch & break the enemies' units the moment they get in range or when you activate that Fire-At-Will button 😂.

@@lukmaanpratomo6866 Or you can do that at 550 range with Armstrong guns (or several kilometers range with naval ones) since they shoot shrapnel shells rather than solid shot to begin with. ;)

​@@KimmoKMartillery in fots is so devastating

I loved doing that when I played Napoleon. Seeing the enemy melt in front of a well timed cannister shot was always a bless

It's basically Napoleon way of warfare -Put the artillery in the front for f sake, this is not medieval anymore

Can you translate in German ?

@@strategosaurus "Artillerie verleiht einer ansonsten hässlichen Schlägerei Würde" - Friedrich der Große

@@FrederikSeerupNielsen boah hätte nicht gedacht eine Antwort zu bekommen. vielen dank für die Hilfe 😔

Napoleon said that God is on the side with the most artillery, and it shows in his game

@@strategosaurus google translated this almost perfectly!

But horses are not men hence it is a good in game target for arty

Napoleon as he turn Germans into swiss cheese:

"Cannon is god. " - Napoleon

😂

tbh, i wouldnt be surprised if the guy offs himself over how badly it turned out

​@@PilvenugaNah he'll cope by just blaming kids on their phones again like last time lol

Were you expecting an action-packed war movie?

​@@asraarradon4115Given that he was one of the most significant military figures of all time, yes.

Wellington is an overrated fuck to be honest... Glorified by brits as some sort of hero because he supposedly succeed to beat the frightening war monster that was Napoleon. Because brits are annoying dicks trying to rewrite their own history the most glorifying way possible (even if it means bullshitting reality and facts), they pushed hard the "Napoleon defeat was ALL ABOUT us brits, us Wellington and us Waterloo fight", the same way their illegitimate son USA pushed forward the "WW2 was winned single-handlely by us USA and nobody else. We ze best. We save the day, nobody else existed or contributed to the win..." We got a really fresh example with how Ridley Scott handled his Napoleon """biopic"""" movie, embracing the Brits' national romance 200% instead of, well, History... It's truely annoying... The truth is, Napoleon's defeat was about MANY things among which Wellington was just a part, and really not the decisive part. Wellington was definitively not that much of the genius UK want the world to think (to glorify their side of Napoleon's era). He would have been, Napoleon would have been defeated much earlier by him... But he didn't... And wellington wasn't even that great of a man as he didn't even contributed to the world beyond the "hey, i was that brit guy here when Napoleon got a decisive fail". Just an overly glorified dude by Brits propaganda.

Napoleon already made use of infantry squares during the Battle of the Pyramids in 1798.

@@ROCCATEER92 yeah and davout at battle of jena-auestedt in 1806 and even in more battles. He used it very commonly as far as I know

@@ROCCATEER92 yeah the formation was use since the Roman time "The formation was described by Plutarch and used by the Ancient Romans; it was developed from an earlier circular formation. In particular, a large infantry square was used by the Roman legions at the Battle of Carrhae against Parthia, whose armies contained a large proportion of cavalry"

The AI would have been acceptable if you weren't so limited with only 20 units in a period that depicted probably the most large scale battles at the time. The reinforcement mechanic is so stupid its such a shame they copied shit from ETW instead of optimizing this issues

@@antoniodelaugger9236if battles were the size of warhammer total war everyone’s computer in 2010 would fry, mine would’ve at least

@@antoniodelaugger9236 having more units on the field would be even more taxing for an already struggling AI, so the very opposite would be the case.

The general's unit just w a l k i ng while being obliterated by artillery

@@antoniodelaugger9236 Use DarthMod with the updated Bran revisions. It is a superior game and you can have 40 unit armies.

At which time?

@@saladedefruit2529 About 20:04. Artillery used round shot and got enfilade fire on the infantry columns and fucked them up big time.

Indeed it is, but with a cannon needs good timing!

lol I love todo this with 1 unit of 12 pounders that can run, and send them of to the side of the map with 1 unit of infantry and 1 unit that can form square. The AI simply just ignore you

Medium cannons are sweet, but i can't live without horse arty anymore. The flexibility it grants to your army is priceless, but I guess it depends on your playstyle... I tend to be offensive and on the move, so I use artillery mainly for counterbattery and for dealing with cav. In that role the 6 pounders accuracy is nice, it lacks in range and damage, but I never find myself wanting for more of those.

Well you cant say no to some good ol HAUBITZEN

Idk i prefer 12 pounders, this was my last army with any 8 pounders in it, and in my opinion i should have never sent it out 2ith this arty setup, i always have 5 12 pounders 4 cav, a general and the rest infantry

The Grand Battery from Napoleons Army (France) are the best cannons in game. I always use them in battle

Russian Unicorns mate, best defensive artillery in the game (if used right). The 10-pdrs melt through infantry while the 20-pdrs can devastate entire armies with near-impunity.

Fr this was my first campaign in the game and i really enjoyed it, the graphics are amazing, especially the gunpowder clouds

There's a Russian movie, Union of Salvation, while not the most historically accurate, shows grapeshot used to horrifying effect at relatively close range. fantastic scene in an otherwise mid movie.

Check out the book Waterloo by Bernard Cornwell. In it he quotes hundreds of in person accounts including one about how British canister shot would kill by the hundreds. They would double pack the barrels. Round shot first then canister on top. The canister to decimate the front of the line while the round shot could pass through an entire column of men.

They work better in Napoleon than Empire for sure, although I'd say the best is when in a desperate situation baiting the enemy to commit significant amounts of full strength troops into taking a building with some of your own brave, but damaged, lads garrisoned, then leveling said building to kill essentially everyone inside.

I had a great battle in Empire where the enemy were engaged in melee down a street with my guys shooting out the windows onto them, it was a lot of fun.

it was such a joy hearing all the nations speaking (mostly) their own languages in Empire/Napoleon, even the Eastern nations. Adds to that element of immersiveness that I usually don't care for if they get right or wrong, but in this case it very much enhanced my experience by a LOT.

Several points: 1) The sheer spectacle of satisfying audio and visuals: Empire/Nepoleon gunfire isn't completely impotent the same way it's in Warhammer, say, but it just doesn't measure up to absolute roar of artillery that you can hear even from the other side of the map, or battlefield being covered with gunfire smoke. 2) It actually works": Shogun 2 isn't utterly blameless (there are broken pathing behaviors in larger siege maps for instance) but especially in Empire but also in Napoleon the systems simply break. Aside from the AI that simply suicides, not because of sheer volume of well-positioned firepower that cannot be attacked head-on, but because it can't even in good conditions effectively set up a firing line (the sort of behavior you see in this battle on the left flank where it just eats canister without even trying to fire back), it's glitchy with units simply not functioning, especially in sieges. From players' perspective this battle went pretty smoothly, but trust me, it doesn't always work nearly as well while in FotS it mostly does. 3) Battles seen in the recent disaster battles tend to be mid-lategame armies and line warfare works closer to Napoleon with early game armies: in fact, traditional units and line infantries counter each other (at the very start of the game you only have spear and gun militia levies available and I could decisively beat an AI army with one with the other, or a mix of both - it just requires tactics): guns mowing down everything that even looks at them funny isn't true for the entirety of the game and in actual campaign gameplay getting to that point feels like a deserved reward. 5) Related to the above point, the campaign systems are far more robust and that matters too in a game that's a mix of TBS and RTT. For instance, getting those Armstrong guns is a real, tangible, opportunity cost. I actually tend not to rush for them at all despite their power, and try to work with line infantries for a while. There actually are some things that Empire/Napoleon do better, like different firing drills for line infantries, but on the balance it's not really even close.

From what I can tell the FOTS gunpowder units are more powerful to begin with, but also the firing lines we've seen Legend form at the start of his videos have been packing 3x or more the punch because they've ~all been 3 ranks deep firing over each other's heads from the sides of hills. It's been the line infantry shredding the enemies as soon as they get in range, while the artillery chunks them bit by bit on the approach.

@@rushi5638 Quite a bit more powerful: based not on stats (which might mean different things in the games) but ascertaining firepower from "number of enemies killed per volley" and reload rate from just counting seconds, levy militia would beat Old Guard, at least in a shooting match (perhaps not if Old Guard charges home). They'd get the first shot off too on account of higher range. But overall they're at least kinda comparable: elite units (French/British/United States marines or Imperial/Shogunate/Republican guards) on the other hand have perhaps 5-10x firepower compared to the best Napoleon units.

Agreed

yeah, it got really deadly during WW1. 3/4 of the casualty from artillery alone... and that was about 5 years of slaughter with no major changes on the front line....

Old Fritz's Oblique Order of Battle

Im the guy, i didnt really realise my army was missing 2 arty, i usually have 5 12 pounders, this was my only army with 8 pounders left. I never got close to losing a battle this entire campaign before and its my first campaign. I just wanna go for map completion thats why i havent taken moscow to end it

Disaster BATTLE, not disaster CAMPAIGN. Different format

@@Romczy true. now that you point that out.

After you beat the Italian campaign (or play it once and exit back to the menu) there's another chapter unlocked on the left of the book, you get Egypt and then Europe and a final battle on Waterloo

@@Diego000793 Thanks Fren!

napoleon especially works much better when the battles are bigger and slower. troops die so fast in the base game

i have 200 hours in empire and never used a mod😅

I always play most games modless, how the developers intended me to play

What are the recommended mods for Napoleon ?

there are a lot of small mods, which is great for players who want to change small details from gameplay to visuals while keeping it as much as vanilla as possible

Yes, he did! Finally

He kinda pioneered the tactic Hannibal perfected it