INFANTRYMAN'S GUIDE: Listening Posts and Observation Posts (LP/OP). In this video we will discuss the importance and tactical considerations for establishing LP/OPs.
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Back before everyone in Wisconsin had to sit in heated elevated buildings to hunt deer, a lot of the stuff discussed here in terms of stealthiness and location selection translates to how us old duffers would sit all day in a field expedient stand. Good material here for those of us who may be beyond long distance running and gunning condition
@D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary" got back into hunting as an adult because of the flexible sit/hide concept. Hated hunting as a kid because of the fixed and preset blinds.
The move towards vest type LBE is apace with the development of everybody riding to battle. Hard to sit in a vehicle with a butt pack, etc. With ALICE or other harness type gear, you can adjust for high or low carry. It's also easier to use a belt rig solo, as opposed to asking your teammate to please put your gear back in the pouches. I have a FLC and a hybrid MOLLE and LC2 rig. The hybrid is much better solo.
What is that he's wearing with the triple nylon straps? I've got an M1967, but I'd rather have larger padding, more straps like what he's running. My woods are thick and unforgiving..
Question Response These posts are for advance warning usually 2 or 3 people they're not meant to fight unless exposed. There are 10 points for briefing a sentry 1 Task what they are to do area to watch / record details 2 How long they can expect to be there and when relief will come to avoid panic or fear they have been left behind if relief is delayed 3 Direction of approach by relief or return at a set time 4 Routes in and out to main position if different 5 Passwords if required 6 Potential routes of enemy approach 7 Are there friendlies / patrols and likely direction of approach 8 Action on sighting Report / Engage / Immediate Return or wait in place if they pass through your return route 9 Can they eat or cook 10 If an extended watch are they permitted to rest
Thanks, this was very helpful. Should a situation occur, these tips will help with my goal of hiding. I do not intend to engage (though I'm prepared) but, these camo ideas are great tools for hiding. I study other animals also. I watch them gather and bury food in multiple areas and they remember where they put it. I watch them make homes from brush and all sorts of things. My goal is to be a master survivor with minimal to no contact until dust settles in a situation. Or until I expire. Which ever comes first.
Former 2512 Field Wireman here, from 1974. Enjoyed the memories with that TA-1. We had a Wire Chief that used to shock on the neck "shop sleepers" with the TA-1. Fun fact, the DR-8 hold a 1/4 mile of wire.
Yes, the DR-8 holds 1/4 mile of WD1 wire, and .5Km of WD-1a (approx 1/3 of a mile), and up to 1 mile of assault wire that is fine strand pair of extreme light weight aluminum wire, that is MX-6894. 6894 is made for the purpose that is the topic of the video. For more on field phones, look up my article, and others under this pen name, Advanced Field Phone Techniques. TA-1's are getting hard to find and these might need repair and parts could be difficult to find. A poorman's substitute that are light weight, can made from commercial phones. If radio is your only option, and more advanced radios and antennas are outside your options, the Midland GXT series offers a FRS radio with a silent alert that is a vibrating feature, and other signaling modes. Use of this option will help lower an RF footprint. And always use low power and position your transceiver horizontally on the gear to greatly reduce the chance of interception. Keep transmission time to less than 3 seconds, then say break, and transmit again for another 3 seconds max. Create a brevity code., and use only FRS channels 8 thru 14 that are limited to .500 watts. It is likely the enemy will use a scanner and hear FRS frequencies. Break radio silence only if absolutely necessary, and tactical surprise can be maintained.....
Also get the DR-8 reel machine to recover the wire. It would also be needed after an action to quickly retract the wire so that it does not lead the enemy to your last position.
when i was a marine in 2016,the wire dogs were in the process of getting shut down, so they gave all their gear to us radiomen. We called them relics and only used them to shock each other. lol
@@natedog805402 I am primarily a radioman, but given the that drones are using RDF to locate transmitters, I got heavy into field phones. Wrote up an article on this topic, 'Mitigating theDrone/ RDF Threat'. I restored 4 EE8 and others. I am now a ''Wire Dog'' too.
Field phone are a great source of comm. But if you use them do pick up the comm wire, on Pendleton there were areas where this stuff was everywhere, we rescued a young Bison that had it's feet wrapped up in comm wire while trying to keep a jeep between us the adult Bison. Fun with pucker factor is tough to beat.
Great point on the field phones, especially for prepared citizens. Closed coms, means no listening in by outside parties or triangulation of location from radio signal.
IMO my bofeng on the lowest power is as safe as wire strung through the woods, especially on split channels and tone codes. I mean jeez guys someones got to roll that out? Lot's of exposure there clanking through the woods with a wire roller when a 2Watt radio is good for that 100 yds and moves with the soldier. I'm certainly not investing in phones a 74 year old woman and this 80 year old man can't carry.
Thanks brother for taking time to make these videos for those of us that don’t have military experience but want to learn these things and apply them in real world situations. By the way your video on setting up ambushes from a few years back got me hooked.
I'm really glad you mentioned the ghosthood. I've been using mine for a while now and it's scary effective. Im talking arms length to the enemy and they have no idea
It's incredibly effective, that's for sure! I'd like to buy one someday, but they are very expensive. My hunting buddy has one, and your right, he can dissappear just about anywhere. I've been within ten feet of him, before I actually saw him! It even does good up in a tree stand!
@@rdb9936 I'm pretty sure it was the con camo. It came with a top that has a hood, mask, bottoms, a rifle wrap, and maybe even some gloves. I can't remember every detail, but I know it wasn't a ghille suit. It was that very lightweight one that Brent put on.
Two things: 1. I never even saw the lighter colored netting until you picked it up. It looked just like a small pile of leaves and blended perfectly. 2. I noticed that you are using a flare pouch to carry your saw. They are cheap and make great pouches for a bunch of stuff but they also fit most suppressors perfectly. I’ve got a 9” 30 caliber thunder beast in one of mine.
@Brent0331 Hey brother, which woodland tops and bottoms are you wearing in the vid? The ones I've found with shoulder pockets have angled chest pockets like the old ACUs, but yours have vertical chest pockets. Thanks a bunch!
I'm gonna mention some stuff I've learned from UAV forums/Ukraine vets/personal experience about using small drones for forward observation posts, since I think a lot of people will want to use mini UAVs in these formations. here are some of my big takeaways: 1. whoever flies the UAV should be in his own foxhole or at least decent natural cover with some overhead concealment (i.e. a large scrim net or foliage) while the UAV is operating. the operator should be spaced out away from the rest of the team too. since a lot of civilian UAVs (especially DJI stuff) have little to no data encryption it's easy to find an operator's location. there's open source info on the internet on how to electronically locate UAV operators, so even a pretty unprofessional force could be a threat in that regard. plus there's the other possibility that your drone will be spotted by the enemy, who will follow it with his own drone to find your operator. so you want to protect the team and operator from any potential indirect counterfire by using good cover, concealment and force dispersion. 2. use different takeoff/landing zones away from where the drone pilot is sitting, and if possible have a separate person for launching/retrieving the drone. kind of obvious but it's important for minimizing risk to a team. 3. avoid flying directly over a known area of enemy operation at first, use a drone's gimbaled camera (hopefully with zoom) to observe the enemy, his behavior and equipment from a distance before deciding if it's safe to fly closer. otherwise you run a higher risk of your drone getting shot down, even by simple small arms fire.
Excellent information Brent. The way you broke it all down from why, to where, to what you need, etc was top notch. Again thanks for putting these out. Nate
a nice happy medium between the field phone and the analog radio is some kind of digital text based radio protocol. DMR and LoRa(the protocol behind Meshtastic) both have support for low power, rapid transmission of encrypted text messages. The brief and lower power aspects of these transmissions make them extremely difficult to direction find. Add a directional antenna like a patch or yagi antenna and it becomes practically impossible. You can scale these system up to the squad, platoon, or even company level for further integration, you can even integrate ATAK if EUDs are your cup of tea.
Man I don’t miss the field phones lol. But the Singar Radio was also a heavy boy too. Humping those up and down the South Korean mountains was a MFer. Good training
@@eveliinatistelgren172 I’m not military, but I guess the point is that you wan’t to be able to egress pretty fast once you’ve identified an enemy force closing in on your position and get back to your patrol base before the fight starts.
@@eveliinatistelgren172 These posts are for advance warning usually 2 or 3 people they're not meant to fight unless exposed. There are 10 points for briefing a sentry 1 Task what they are to do area to watch / record details 2 How long they can expect to be there and when relief will come to avoid panic or fear they have been left behind if relief is delayed 3 Direction of approach by relief or return at a set time 4 Routes in and out to main position if different 5 Passwords if required 6 Potential routes of enemy approach 7 Are there friendlies / patrols and likely direction of approach 8 Action on sighting Report / Engage / Immediate Return or wait in place if they pass through your return route 9 Can they eat or cook 10 If an extended watch are they permitted to rest
If you can find it, the smaller gauge commo wire in the small Donuts make for a lighter load, and you could also pull off a length of the WD-1 wire from the spool (this works better if you do not need to recover the wire.
Fosa-Tech (formerly Terminal Armament) and a few other comm based enthusiasts have been working on modernized comms for civilian preparedness. A few of the concepts they have been using are things like directional antennae' that only send signals in the physical direction the antennae is pointed; ultra low power transmission (reduces the range of detection) as well as things like encrypted texted based comms over hamm bands. Text messages can actually be sent via hamm frequencies and only appears as an miniscule blip to someone observing the frequency spectrum. The theory i think is that an observer can't practically intercept the communication due to it being such a short transmission time and also that someone observing large swaths of the frequency bands may still not even see the transmission again due to how short the blip is. I have not implemented this nor have deeply studied it, but its just some concepts i've been seeing get used and have put them on a shelf in my head. Some really cool things happening in the preparedness space these days. The field phone is highly impressive as well though. The simplicity and general dummy proofing of that system shouldn't be slept on in my estimation. Until watching your content as well as One Shephard content, i did not know that field phones were a thing. Even if more modern wireless comms replaces the field phone in many applications, the benefits of hard wired field phones still seems viable especially if an area is intended to be occupied for longer term.
Hey Brent, been dying some ucp bags and pouches Apple Green and am pretty happy with the results. The other day while dying a batch I threw in a set of Greek Lizard BDU and I think it's game changer potential. If you have a spare set of that, consider giving it the Apple Green bath and give it the effectiveness test.
@@Brent0331 thanks for always replying, yes I saw that, it's what gave me the idea to do the UCP stuff. I'm talking about dying the Greek Lizard cammies. They came out looking really good with the apple green base layer. Be well. Thanks again for what you do.
Sharing this info is most crucial whilst we still can, thank you for your information you provide people! Have a wonderful and prosperous week, month, or what have you! Be prepared, not scared!
Was on fort carson today and let me tell you those boys aint the same kinda warrior. Hope its just me having a inflated memory. But i didn't feel it today.
Field phones have a cost. Field phone wire is getting hard to find. (Speaker wire can help). As another alternative, one can lay bank line or similar string and tug it to alert leadership "something is happening at OP #3". It's a more limited communication but it's also cheaper.
** Enemy scout taps into Brent0331's mom's field phone** * Brent0331's Mom: "Oh yeah, USMC 0352 can envelop my avenue of approach and punch out my LP-OP any day of the week. How copy? Over" *Brent0331 Actual: "BM1 that's a negative, secure that shit immediately. How copy? Over" *BM1 Actual: "My LP-OP is defenseless against that 0352 OG-PP! .... Ohhhh what's this??? ... Perimeter breached!!... Wait one..... Oh yes! Oh yes! .... Sounding FPF!!! ... Stand by for red star cluster... How copy? Over." ** Enemy Scout slowly shakes his head and crawls away
The video clips you showed, soldiers wearing the gear with the big black knobs all over it…was that MILES gear? Laser tag? They still use that??? We used that back in the 80’s, individual soldiers, tracked vehicle gun systems, helicopters, all outfitted with it. Lots of fun when the bullets aren’t real.
Thanks, I expanded into Infantry small unit tactics many years ago. I still do camouflage stuff from time to time, but essentially anything grunt related is my realm.
I'm homeless. This really helped. It actually gives me confidence in what manged to accomplish. That note about military crest is a big one for me. The location I occupie is very dangerous and occasionally has gun fire. Most people I encounter are "nice" but ehh, I never know. Generally I'm nice to them or avoid them if they get a bit cray cray lol. God bless, I'll be sure to binge your videos.
We were still using Angra-39’s when I got out in 09 😂 We used the hell out of them as a matter of fact. What sucks now is thermals via drone, optic, etc. exposing those LP/OP’s. In todays world especially moving a platoon sized element or larger you are going to have a dedicated thermal person/team to scan the area. Avoiding those thermals is a tremendous pain in the ass.
My mech infantry battalion 2-28 still had a TO&E supply of phones and wire in 1962, but rarely used them. Since we were constantly on the move, we used FM vehicle radios in the AN/VRC-xx family. Crappy range but usable within about 5 miles, good enough for duty near the Czech border. Encryption had not yet been invented.
Unless u missed it, forgive me, if so, but another, newer consideration to complicate things: drones. Small, cheap, and as we have been seeing from the Ukrainians, exceptional quality day and night camera systems..even thermals. There's been footage, of late, of some surprisingly well concealed positions on the Soviet side, that come nightfall, are picked up in almost no time, by thermal cameras on. A cheep bust buy drone..
I actually wanted to sell my M81 uniform set...but after watching this I will keep it. Works amazing. And everyone is caught in the Multicam delusion, even for vegetated areas :D
I work with signals, and I 100% agree with you on the field phone. It’s a lot easier to listen in on radio communications than a closed circuit old fashioned telephone. I think there’s a solution here in creating a similar system that doesn’t broadcast any signals but is a lot lighter.
Great video. Would like to add that when leaving an o.p. , it is important to cover your tracks. Time permitting, police the area well. Do your best to leave the place as you found it. (You may need to return to the area, though avoid using same location). Ex: If you had to move a large rock or log it may leave a footprint and look out of place. Foliage used for concealment will also dry and may look out of place
I'm pretty sure Finnish military has not abandoned field phones. The guys who lay the wire are said to "run the bundle". Of course this is due to doctrinal differences; Finland uses mainly light infantry heavily dug-in, while the US uses mostly alpine infantry on mobile operations.
Be sure to "field test" the TA-1 field phones with all individuals who may use them prior to going into the field. Their volume is powered by the sound pressure of the speakers voice. If he is speaking quietly, like if he has just seen OPFOR close by, then the volume at the receiver end will be quite low. Those with heavy ringing in their ears will likely not be able to hear what was said by the sender. Those folks with "old ears" should maybe not be put on that duty.
11:00 MAC-V SOG could do it to the NVA regulars in vietnam. But if you have somebody like that hunting you then you have a whole 'nother set of problems.
Hey Brent. SSgt. Calhoun USMC here Can u give me a azimuth where I can purchase some field phone's for my own perimeter defense on the civilian side of the house now that I'm a retired Jar head? (Other than just good ol' walkie talkies)
I think you'd like the bit in Battle Los Angeles where the aliens can fully intercept all radio transmissions and the squad has to find a hard-line to get a update on the overall situation since the aliens are tracking units based on their radio transmissions.
"metttc dependent" ohhh boy, that's the universal reply whenever command asks you anything '(medical) Sgt, what's your plan of action regarding a mass casualty event in which an enemy force launched an attack on this FOB?' 'sir, that will be METTTC dependent'
Ah, TA-1's and TA-312's. I remember them well. As far as radios, if you can't afford the good stuff. Get use to using One Time pads and brevity codes. Keep your transmissions under a minute to prevent location however AI may even shorten that so some type of encryption or On Time pad and a radio with burst transmission. Other than that you can also use runners if the others stuff is compromised. Gota watch fro the drones also.
Can you do a small tips and tricks section on insect repellent? As some one from a commie state that visits yours yearly, iv had the unpleasant experience of some of the bugs in tx such as those damn chiggers and others. I see that being a good topic as it could release non natural smells and such.
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