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Ingram Model 6: Like A Thompson Without the Price Tag (Sort Of) 

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Before he made a big success with the M10 (MAC-10) submachine gun, Gordon Ingram designed a couple other guns. His initial M5 submachine gun and M20 light machine gun never went past prototype stage, but the M6 did prove to be successful, at least in a limited way. The M6 was a very simple blowback .45ACP submachine gun very deliberately made to look like the Thompson. It was introduced in 1948, and in 1949 Ingram and other investors created the Police Ordnance Company to market and sell it. A total of about 2,000 were made, including an order of 400 to the Peruvian government which was coupled with a licensing agreement which would see some 8,000 more produced in Peru on license.
The Model 6 was offered in three calibers, but only the .45 ACP saw any sales (the other options were 9x19mm and .38 Super). Three configurations were detailed in the company’s marketing literature, although in production guns some of the features were mixed. The official models were the Police (finned barrel and vertical front grip), Guard (smooth barrel and horizontal front grip), and Military (smooth barrel, fully hooded sight, sling swivels, and spike bayonet). Production on lasted for a few years, as Ingram left the company in 1953 and it dissolved in 1954. Today, Model 6 submachine guns are a neat and under recognized piece of Ingram history, completely overshadowed by the M9, M10, and M11 designs which Ingram would produce later.
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@VargasKoch
@VargasKoch 5 лет назад
Me: "Can we stop and get a Thompson" Armorer: "We have Thompson at home"
@derekbroestler7687
@derekbroestler7687 4 года назад
LMFAO at this... Pretty much
@giannisantetokoumnpo7473
@giannisantetokoumnpo7473 4 года назад
Thomp son at home:
@mynametagidk
@mynametagidk 3 года назад
@@giannisantetokoumnpo7473 don’t thomp your son
@johnfagan1938
@johnfagan1938 2 года назад
@@mynametagidk lol
@spehhhsssmarineer8961
@spehhhsssmarineer8961 2 года назад
@@johnfagan1938 what did he say?
@jontee3437
@jontee3437 6 лет назад
I'm pretty sure this is the pixelated thompson from Battlefield 1942
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 6 лет назад
But BF1942 isnt pixelated..........
@stalkinghorse883
@stalkinghorse883 6 лет назад
I heard that before Ingram got into gun development, he started a business manufacturing trash can lids. He thought he had a superior design but it didn't go anywhere. He was stuck will a very large inventory for years. I never did hear what happened to all those trash can lids.
@patrickcdavis7712
@patrickcdavis7712 5 лет назад
@@stalkinghorse883 They became M-10s......lol
@agungpriambodo1674
@agungpriambodo1674 5 лет назад
Yeah, it's less everything compared to the Thompson less weight less bullets less parts less complicated less jamming what else could you possibly want people
@georanger6180
@georanger6180 4 года назад
@@Kacpa2 he means because the graphics were bad
@snape1464
@snape1464 6 лет назад
I keep getting distracted by that FG42 in the background. It's absolutely beautiful
@briang4470
@briang4470 4 года назад
If only it was a 1st design, I think the 1st designs look way better but they are both awesome
@dragofill2808
@dragofill2808 3 года назад
Me and my friends like to watch his videos get drunk and play a little game we made called "what gun is behind Ian"
@freeman105
@freeman105 3 года назад
i thought i recognized that
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 3 года назад
@@freeman105 this sure looks like the gun sold in ads in magazines and even comic books...seem to recall a price of $49.95...I could be wrong...but it's odd he didn't mention that...saw those ads often in the '50's....in those ads it was listed as a machine gun but no mention was made of NFA requirements....
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 6 лет назад
A few thousand sales isn't bad for an immediate post war SMG. The simplicity is impressive and the stacked plates is a neat way of saving on machine time.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 6 лет назад
@@jjohnston94 Though with padlocks the aim is somewhat different.
@painmagnet1
@painmagnet1 4 года назад
Quite sturdy as well as cheap to produce. With sheet steel like this, it can be hardened to 100% of its depth rather than shallowly as a thicker part would be.
@garetz2011
@garetz2011 Год назад
In Brazil padlocks are made from solid brass, but I saw a few made this way. Voltage converters use this method, I saw many of them when I was a boy. Interesting, I didn't note this when I saw this video a few years ago.
@karlt8233
@karlt8233 6 лет назад
My dad was a LEO in the late 60's thru early 80"s and I remember seeing one of these in the Sheriff's Office Armory when I was a kid. I remeber telling my dad "Oh wow a real Tommy Gun". His reply was no its not a real Tommy Gun but it looks like it and shoots the same cartridge. Thanks for the review Ian, brought back some fond memories of time with my dad while "on tour" of his place of employmemt.
@ricepicker562
@ricepicker562 6 лет назад
Looks like a fake Thompson you'd use in some kind of alternate reality ww2 game
@krosskreut3463
@krosskreut3463 6 лет назад
As wolfestein ?
@GhanyNurisAlhakim
@GhanyNurisAlhakim 6 лет назад
Or B Movies
@kylosalvesen
@kylosalvesen 6 лет назад
"Oh, great guys, I found the "Thomas" gun"
@Guysm1l3y
@Guysm1l3y 6 лет назад
All the best brands! Sorny, Magnetbox, Tompson...
@treatb09
@treatb09 6 лет назад
i have a thomas gun with speed reload, looking for a x2 dmg multiplier, anyone up for a trade
@hudsonmeek6728
@hudsonmeek6728 6 лет назад
Ingram: Hey Auto Ordinance you mind if I copy your homework? Auto Ordinance: Yeah sure just make sure you change the answers a bit. Ingram: Model 6
@agungpriambodo1674
@agungpriambodo1674 5 лет назад
If only Nazi Germany never invented assault rifles, I'm sure the Ingram model 6 would be the most produced and copied gun in the world due to it's simplicity Take that commies and their overrated AKs
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 4 года назад
@Solipsil Nazi Germany did not invent ARs. Eugene Stoner did. AR stand for Armalite Rifle.
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 4 года назад
@@andrehashimoto8056 The concept of the assault rifle started in WWI long before the Nazi's were in power. Storm troops to assault the trenches. AR DOES NOT MEAN ASSAULT RIFLE . It means what I said it means. Yes I speak German. You are talking about two different things.
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 6 лет назад
If Ingram had designed this in 1940 there would have been a million of them made.
@YouTubeViolates1A
@YouTubeViolates1A 4 года назад
@@unnamed_boi Come to think of it though, the lethality of the gun doesn't mean shit when almost every gun can kill with a single round. If it kills, it kills. Obviously, the AK is a better gun overall because it's a rifle.
@GamingBoTv
@GamingBoTv 4 года назад
@@RU-vidViolates1A and a 7.62 has more stopping power and range accuracy. Do some research on the US invasion of the Philippines, then you'll see why it matters.
@YouTubeViolates1A
@YouTubeViolates1A 4 года назад
@@GamingBoTv What kinda dumbasses compare an SMG's "stopping power" to a rifle's? Regardless, nearly all guns kill. Stopping power still does not mean shit. If that was the case, those guys in the middle east with their Kar 98s would've whooped Russia.
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 4 года назад
@@RU-vidViolates1A It really doesnt work that way. Have you ever been near a firearm in your life
@YouTubeViolates1A
@YouTubeViolates1A 4 года назад
@@MrPanos2000 Yes it does. And yes, I've been around firearms. I've shot some too. Not sure why I need to be around them though to know that guns are lethal. I'm not talking about Nerf guns, stun guns, money guns, airsoft or paintball guns. All REAL firearms can kill. Except for maybe guns the same size as a Kolibri, but I think that goes without saying.
@user-ns3vs3bp3e
@user-ns3vs3bp3e 6 лет назад
Looks like if you described a Thompson over the phone to somebody who then tried to draw it without ever seeing one...
@FuqUYouTube
@FuqUYouTube 6 лет назад
Lol, gold!
@Pocahonkers
@Pocahonkers 6 лет назад
But only if the person describing doesn't know the word "Square"
@tenmil1
@tenmil1 5 лет назад
It's a Thompson off dhgate
@agungpriambodo1674
@agungpriambodo1674 5 лет назад
It's literally the mental image everyone has when they hear American Mafia/Al Capone/Prohibition It's not accurate but close enough
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 4 года назад
More like someone described the bastard offspring of a Thompson and a Greasegun.
@Titan_TM
@Titan_TM 5 лет назад
There's something oddly charming about this gun, I rather like how it looks.
@williammontroy9024
@williammontroy9024 3 месяца назад
To me it looks kinda like a Thompson had a baby with the h&k mp5s grandmother
@jussimakarussi
@jussimakarussi 6 лет назад
10:20 When you're playing with legos and can't be bothered to find a thicker block, so you just stack the thin ones on top of each other.
@harshbansal7982
@harshbansal7982 6 лет назад
It looks like a mix of the Thompson and the mp5 to me . Lol
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 6 лет назад
Only because of front guard being angled. Nothing else is even remotely similar H&K guns
@williamsxd2004
@williamsxd2004 6 лет назад
I was going to say the same LOL
@harshbansal7982
@harshbansal7982 6 лет назад
Kacpa2 yeah
@TheBudgieKing
@TheBudgieKing 6 лет назад
wow... your right!
@DumbArse
@DumbArse 6 лет назад
Kacpa2 It's the shape, use photoshop and put them on top of eachother if you don't see it
@entropy11
@entropy11 6 лет назад
They used some in the pilot episode of The A-Team, which is the only time anyone has ever heard or seen of these since they were made.
@thundercricket4634
@thundercricket4634 6 лет назад
From watching this I get the impression that the designer was consciously going for as few milled components as possible, (Likely to keep production costs low and thus increase its marketability to large govt funded organizations like the military) and also mechanical simplicity (To keep the thing easy to maintain and reduce breakage). I could be completely wrong, but that's certainly the impression that weapon made to me at least.
@adrianfirewalker4183
@adrianfirewalker4183 5 лет назад
Even the M3/M3a1 and STEN were adopted because they were cheaper and faster to produce than the Thompson. All because of simplifying the designs, which included Stamped parts vs Milled.
@Ms95670
@Ms95670 4 года назад
Ingram said that he wanted it to be something that could be made almost anywhere
@Kar4ever3
@Kar4ever3 6 лет назад
Look at that beauty in the background, flirting with everyone.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
@ZaphodHarkonnen 6 лет назад
The laminated sight block and trigger is really quite interesting.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 6 лет назад
I like simple guns. To me it makes far more sense then stupidly complicated guns. My favourite ones are ones that are simple but high quality.
@Echin0idea
@Echin0idea 5 лет назад
I agree, but I also tend to feel that once you're leaving out a drop safety your gun might be a little *too* simple
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 5 лет назад
@@Echin0idea Yes and no. I don;t think a drop safety is always required depending on what gun you are designing and what it's intended goal is. If your just making a cheap gun that's effective enough to get he job done then it doesn't need one. Soldiers are disposable after all or at least they where in the past. These days in a modern military it's more important I think because military's invest so much money in their soldiers that they don't want to loose them. On the other side how often do you drop a gun and could it not simply be mitigated with different doctrine. If you teach your soldiers to carry a gun with a stray on would that not remove that problem altogether. And or not simply using other methods of a safety like a double position on a magazine so the magazine while not in combat isn't engaged but still in the gun when you want to fire it you push it further in and engages.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 4 года назад
So flintlock?
@coaxill4059
@coaxill4059 3 года назад
@@Drownedinblood Have you looked up close at a flintlock? Some were simple, most were monstrously complicated for what they were. A lot of older guns were very complicated and inefficient compared to more modern designs.
@Seeker-wq8jc
@Seeker-wq8jc 3 года назад
I too appreciate the efficiency of simple designs. Doesn't need six thousand well made parts that take forever to manufacture and costs a fortune, when you can have only a few quick and dirty parts that perform the same function just as well. Oh no, the gun broke or got damaged in the field, too bad you can make a dozen of them for the cost of one more expensive gun, and arm more people while you're at it.
@same242
@same242 4 года назад
>Peru licensed and made about 8000 of them Me (out loud): Good for them!
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 6 лет назад
Another interesting video about a truly “forgotten weapon”. I hope a review of the MAC 10 and 11 isn’t far behind!
@jacoblucas4259
@jacoblucas4259 6 лет назад
Seconded!
@danielpearcy4545
@danielpearcy4545 6 лет назад
I thought hes done those already?
@wildward93
@wildward93 6 лет назад
Why a MAC 10 when there's probably some shitty Cobray gun out there!?
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 6 лет назад
Believe it or not, it looks like Cobray actually produced M-10 and M-11 guns (and a semiauto .380ACP, the M-12).
@bensmith4563
@bensmith4563 5 лет назад
@@wildward93 come on man every one knows cobray is the greatest firearms manufacturer ever
@davidhyer3404
@davidhyer3404 6 лет назад
Can you imagine a alternate reality where eugene stoner, lj sullivan, and aimo lahti worked on the ar-15 development?
@germanyball1379
@germanyball1379 6 лет назад
An AR-15 with a big fricking drum!
@guywithphone9222
@guywithphone9222 Год назад
@@germanyball1379so an AR based LMG like an American version of an RPK.
@dandel351
@dandel351 6 лет назад
That's a very interesting gun there Ian. I can't wait to see it firing and the comparison to the Tommy gun.
@maxcolt4124
@maxcolt4124 5 лет назад
Imagine if someone made this as a cheap semi auto carbine
@AmphiStuG
@AmphiStuG 2 года назад
It would be like an American Volksturm gewehr.
@juhai7048
@juhai7048 6 лет назад
An interesting What If -scenario where Aimo Lahti would've been designing guns in the US...
@alaric_
@alaric_ 6 лет назад
Lahti and Ingram together... I am sure the result would have been something very nice!
@milivojetomovic6138
@milivojetomovic6138 5 лет назад
The
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 6 лет назад
BSA Rep holds up a STEN Mk V..."So, what do you think?" Ingram: "Hold my beer."
@rancidpitts8243
@rancidpitts8243 6 лет назад
I like that, only no one's truck was wrecked, house set on fire, or had to have Paramedics show up.
@Predalien195
@Predalien195 6 лет назад
I think the M6 in .38 Super would have been amazing... I really think the .38 Super should have become far more popular than it was and would make a great sub gun caliber much like the 9x23 Largo.
@aojpictures
@aojpictures 6 лет назад
It looks like a Thompson that hasn’t fully loaded in yet.
@agungpriambodo1674
@agungpriambodo1674 5 лет назад
and Ingram is impatient, so he sells it before it fully loads
@daxstreamer7992
@daxstreamer7992 3 года назад
+mp5
@sqeeye3102
@sqeeye3102 6 лет назад
What a simple gun compared to the Thompson, I wonder how much it would have cost at the time. Thanks for bringing us this unusual piece of history.
@davydovua
@davydovua 6 лет назад
Safety concerns and fire selector mainly, though tbh the solutions on Thompson would work and do work completely in the same manner on every other blowback smg without that rudimentary delaying system.
@davydovua
@davydovua 6 лет назад
This design is just as plain and simple as you can get away with, and I certainly would prefer something more sophisticated.
@blshouse
@blshouse 6 лет назад
I'm just here for the sound effects... 8:50
@yaboosnubs
@yaboosnubs 6 лет назад
is there a jesus soundboard already? XD
@alaric_
@alaric_ 6 лет назад
I bet there will be at somepoint!
@jmarchant5352
@jmarchant5352 5 лет назад
Same. That "boing" was adorable. :D
@manopeace9175
@manopeace9175 5 лет назад
Boing!
@jnathannger8654
@jnathannger8654 6 лет назад
this is kinda sad for a fan of mechanically interesting pieces. uet its sooo simple it becomes interesting again. how?
@a_shuchu_601
@a_shuchu_601 6 лет назад
If Grease Gun received furniture updates like Sten MkV
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 6 лет назад
Its far closer to sten if you think about it xD. Just that it has proper double feed mag and Good furniture and longer barrel xd
@kermanguy1877
@kermanguy1877 6 лет назад
It looks like a Thompson made from memory by someone who manufactures MP5s and has only been told about the Thompson.
@bunkyboy9156
@bunkyboy9156 6 лет назад
This looks like someone ww2'd an mp5
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 5 лет назад
Speaking of which, look up pictures of a wooden furniture MP5. People have modified them with original G3 parts, it's lovely.
@pemjoe
@pemjoe 6 лет назад
I've been waiting for this one for a long time. Thank you. I can't wait for the shooting range video. And the videos on the other models !
@rsideout
@rsideout Год назад
I just realize that I own the M6 that Ian has in his video. SN 227. Small world, Pretty cool.
@acefromouterspace3681
@acefromouterspace3681 6 лет назад
It looks like it's taken some design elements from the VolkssturmGewehr, which is probably a coincidence. But an incredible looking gun nonetheless!
@SuperHoneyOil
@SuperHoneyOil 6 лет назад
its actually pretty clean, I like it
@KAZUYAGONNATRY
@KAZUYAGONNATRY 6 лет назад
assuming thompson is retro rich gang iconic machinegun,this gun is poor street gang using.
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 5 лет назад
And eventually Ingram's Model 10 would be the choice of street gangs
@briantaylor3204
@briantaylor3204 6 лет назад
Well you're up early gun jesus
@iannordin5250
@iannordin5250 6 лет назад
Bold of you to assume gun jesus sleeps
@Josh93B93
@Josh93B93 6 лет назад
When the M1A1 and Blyskawika had an illegitimate love baby...
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 6 лет назад
I guess I'm one of the few that find beauty in its simplicity. Would be cool if someone made 80% kits of it!
@joevidya
@joevidya 6 лет назад
If the grease gun didn't exist this would have been a nice alternative.
@robertwesolowski2383
@robertwesolowski2383 6 лет назад
Oh wow an episode of nazi last ditch rifles... no ok
@LucasIsHereYT
@LucasIsHereYT 3 года назад
That's an MP5 that transitioned into a Thompson, it's a TRANS THOMPSON.
@philiphan123
@philiphan123 5 лет назад
Me:Mom can I get a Thompson? Mom: No, we have Thompson’s at home The Thompson’s at home:
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 6 лет назад
Could not find a single picture of the mentioned Ingram M20 light machine gun.
@ozzypascal7210
@ozzypascal7210 4 года назад
Great gun videos,Thanks Ian.
@kubrick1969
@kubrick1969 6 лет назад
Awesome mint condition all the Morphy items... Even Gun Jesus must be impressed.
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 3 года назад
Many police models probably spent 90% of their lives sitting in a rack at headquarters.
@mysss29
@mysss29 6 лет назад
Wow, that front sight _is_ fascinating. Thanks for the reasoning on not using a grease gun mag...I guess those only became sort-of common after they started coming back as parts kits at some point...? Also, really? No one bought many spare magazines for their new _submachinegun?_
@natwolf687
@natwolf687 Год назад
I thought that was a bit odd too, not buying s whole lot of spare magazines. But police and prison work isn't exactly combat.
@vector6977
@vector6977 6 лет назад
Like a Sten with IKEA pressboard stocks.
@Rhynome
@Rhynome 4 года назад
STÆNN
@mattorama
@mattorama 6 лет назад
I really dig the format of presentation and history one day, range time the next day.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 6 лет назад
have you encountered the ingram MG? A blowback full-power-rifle-cartridge MG would be an interesting episode.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 5 лет назад
Imagine experiencing the piss-poor ergonomics of a Thompson and coming away thinking "this is the ONE part of that experience that I'm going to keep." I love the pipe wrench marks on the barrel nut. Just screams "quality".
@johnyricco1220
@johnyricco1220 6 лет назад
The reciever and magazine were both made from extruded seemless tube, which was a new technique at the time.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 6 лет назад
But... You forgot to cover the most important issues with the Model 6? Are you legally required to wear black leather gloves while shooting _this_ Ingram? Its an very serious point!
@Ulquiorra4163
@Ulquiorra4163 5 лет назад
Ian, this video is an external link on Wikipedia when you search the Model 6. Way to go, man, Wiki is starting to see you as a great information source!
@littlebuddyoutdoors
@littlebuddyoutdoors 6 лет назад
Kinda looks like that chick at the bar thats not super good looking, but you still want to leave with her
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 6 лет назад
An OK body, but it's getting late and the pickings are getting slim...
@calanon534
@calanon534 6 лет назад
@@AndrewAMartin "Yarr! Th' hour be late an' her blowhole be wet!"
@Stellar001100
@Stellar001100 5 лет назад
That 7 chick that sorta looks like an 8 after a couple drinks.
@KMEECHY
@KMEECHY 5 лет назад
If the M1A1 Thompson and the MAS 38 had a child...
@HypnologicQualm
@HypnologicQualm 4 года назад
Should have kept the trend going and make the barrel from a bunch of washers tacked together
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 6 лет назад
This looks like you made a 5 slide PowerPoint presentation of the Thompson to a 10 year old and then asked him to draw the gun from memory
@sb-ant6457
@sb-ant6457 6 лет назад
Interesting, and it shows how hard they must have worked in the UK to make the sten so butt ugly, when it could have looked half reasonable. Note I said half.
@insertname1667
@insertname1667 6 лет назад
S Bryant well I mean it's ugly to the point it's endearing, like a Pug.
@GunsNGames1
@GunsNGames1 5 лет назад
Well that's an ugly gun, but it's a little bit better looking than the Sten.
@Rhynome
@Rhynome 4 года назад
How very dare you.
@MasterControl90original
@MasterControl90original 6 лет назад
Boing!
@alexmg2420
@alexmg2420 6 лет назад
It was actually a Suomi drum mag that Lahti sent to Ingram. Ingram was disappointed because he wanted to study the 50 round Suomi coffin mag to adapt for use in the Model 6. (At least according to the MAC Man book.)
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 6 лет назад
No wonder he got a drum if he asked Lathi. The coffin mag and the 36 round stick are swedish designs as far as i know.
@Outlaw_Deadman1996
@Outlaw_Deadman1996 6 лет назад
Looks like Thompson and a Lebel had an angry love child
@davidcolter
@davidcolter 6 лет назад
When a Thompson gets really drunk and goes home with a Sten...
@SuperTanglewood
@SuperTanglewood 6 лет назад
Another interesting video about a truly “forgotten weapon”. I hope a review of the MAC 10 and 11 isn’t far behind!
@Falconguygaming
@Falconguygaming 6 лет назад
Darn you Ian I was looking for the link at the end to the range
@farmerboy916
@farmerboy916 6 лет назад
It still suprises me every time I hear anything regarding California in one of these videos, having grown up in a post AWB world
@kredes80
@kredes80 6 лет назад
Nice simple oldschool SMG, waiting for shooting video:D
@MosoKaiser
@MosoKaiser 6 лет назад
Looks like a special needs offspring of a Thompson and a VG 5.
@eskimo05w
@eskimo05w 5 лет назад
If this design had been available circa 1940, do you think it would have been used instead of Thompson and/or the M3 Grease-gun?
@User1-T7R
@User1-T7R 4 года назад
It looks like Thompson SMG mixed with the MP5
@JunRozenovich
@JunRozenovich 6 лет назад
8:50 best part
@markbecht1420
@markbecht1420 6 лет назад
The front sight block and trigger lever. Laminated steel is common in transformers, and the Crosley CoBra fire pump engine (later race car motor) used a brazed sheetmetal engine block (COpper BRAzed) so it's method of it's day, like 3D printing (for good or ill) is currently
@AQ.Gimpalong
@AQ.Gimpalong 6 лет назад
It's like a child's drawing of what a Thompson should look like.
@thegeneral123
@thegeneral123 6 лет назад
My grandfather was serving with the RAF in Cypress and he told me a story of how he and his unit were in the back of a lorry when someone dropped a Stirling or Sten SMG with the bolt locked back in the safety notch. IIRC he mentioned that the guys were instructed to keep the guns either with a magazine out or with the bolt forward. This guy had the magazine in. So it fired when dropped. My granddad said that the gun had a runway and stitched a line in the canvas and someone pushed the gun so it fell facing towards the back of the lorry rather than killing people. I think this is rather unlikely as he did like to embellish a good story into a great story and over time things would get bigger and more impressive with each telling. I do believe though that there was a negligent discharge due to the SMG being dropped. Probably just a single shot.
@terminator-qf6vw
@terminator-qf6vw 3 года назад
my father was with 61st battalion at milne bay he told me story of one of the guys just about cuttiong himself in half with his own owen gun i have always wondered how he managed to do it acidentaly
@jarothewerewolf5277
@jarothewerewolf5277 6 лет назад
"I want a THOMPSON" "I want an MP5" "Why not both?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ *Place both guns in the bed with romance music*
@troy9477
@troy9477 6 лет назад
Looks like a solid, simple design. A manual safety might be nice, but is not absolutely necessary. I am surpeised they made the stock woth so much drop. By then, everyone knew a straight line stock was generally better (Hyde M2, German FG 42, etc). Maybe it was to keep the Thompson look. Any idea on the rate of fire? More than 600 is a waste, and the Grease Gun proved that 400-450 is fine. Looking forward to the range video. Great video as always. Thank you
@mrskittles220
@mrskittles220 6 лет назад
plz do one on the Thompson copies like Volunteer arms, i have one of their later models :>
@99somerville
@99somerville 4 года назад
First thing I noticed was the lack of a compensator. I wonder what they cost to make?
@Yumao420
@Yumao420 2 года назад
Ingram M6 in 9mm and Maroszek .38m in 7.62mm would be two guns I would love to get. Also, they would have crushed if mass produced in WW2. Also I imagine that a Sam 3 and a bunch of Ingram 6 would be a good fire team
@DHEADZTheLegendaryMyth
@DHEADZTheLegendaryMyth 6 лет назад
this looks like an old version of mp5 lol
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 6 лет назад
Not at all.....Maybe at first very vague glance cuz of front guard shape......nothing about this gun is anything like MP5 Literslly nothing. Its a civilized Sten with longer barrel and some furniture
@mikethemoomin8604
@mikethemoomin8604 2 года назад
Isn't it hypocritical to turn down Lahti's immigration petition due to Finland's association with Nazi German in WW2, while other card-carrying Nazis (von Braun for one, many more...) got a complete white-wash and granted citizenship?
@samanerajacob6058
@samanerajacob6058 6 лет назад
This is naisu
@Anna_weird
@Anna_weird 4 года назад
Don't know if it's just me, but if you take the wooden furniture off it bears a resemblance to a STEN gun
@nunyabusiness3082
@nunyabusiness3082 Год назад
Just seen one of these at a "gun buyback program". The one with the foregrip and finned barrel. Someone turned it in for $500. It didn't show up in the photo op for the media. I wonder if someone made it "disappear" they always like show the "scary" ones but it's not in the photos. 😂
@VIIthLegionEnjoyer
@VIIthLegionEnjoyer 6 лет назад
“Whatever adjective you would use to describe the Mac-10” *Ostentatious*
@jakesolver4359
@jakesolver4359 2 года назад
"We''ll find out later on the range" or will we?.....
@jeffreyday2414
@jeffreyday2414 6 лет назад
I don't have much interest in guns (shot a 22 once 56 years ago) but I've watched a few of your videos and man you know your stuff!
@drxym
@drxym 6 лет назад
Definitely looks built to a price
@sheriffhotdog1443
@sheriffhotdog1443 4 года назад
"We have Thompson at home" Thompson at home:
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 6 лет назад
You could have hardened laminated steel. Should have incorporated the folding magazine concept, can't get more safe than that.
@arminengelhardt2239
@arminengelhardt2239 6 лет назад
It seems pretty gutsy to start a smg company right after a world war. Wasn't the market saturated with surplus guns back then?
@homegunsmithunger598
@homegunsmithunger598 6 лет назад
Very interesting design, thank you for showing it. The receiver looks very similiar to the sten but the lower receiver is much easier to manufacture in a homeworkshop. It is also interesting, that the firearm is lighter than a M3 Grease gun, altough he just used a tube and flat sheet metals. In my opinion it is superior to similar firearms from this era, and it can be produced cheap, even in very small numbers. Very good to see, that he kept his philopsophy of simplicity and had success with it later on (Mac-10, Mac-11).
@Atownforevilones
@Atownforevilones 6 лет назад
If the ones making "Chinese mystery pistols" tried to make a Thompson, but only had a board, a metal tube, the sheet steel off a car door and 1 hour, this is what they'd come up with. It would just need some random proof marks and a faux c96 rear sight.
@TheLanceUppercut
@TheLanceUppercut Год назад
I swear, some of these open bolt stamped submachine guns look like I could probably build one in my garage.
@coitusergosum2447
@coitusergosum2447 6 лет назад
When you try drawing a Thompson in class during a Maths lesson
@MindjackPWNS
@MindjackPWNS 6 лет назад
I actually love the look of this gun, but that's probably because I love unusual, less well-known guns.
@HappiKarafuru
@HappiKarafuru 6 лет назад
When i heard Ingram, i automatically thinking about that .380/.45 acp or 9mm Machine pistol, the Mac10/11 because maybe it one of his most well known gun.
@andrewwaterman9240
@andrewwaterman9240 6 лет назад
"Boing! There we go!" That's what she said!
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