The only blame would be not owning up to the damage and letting the horse suffer. As you've been called in , I'm sure that farrier did his best in this case. Accidents happen to us all. Good job!
Exactly, accidents happens, there is no way everything will work smoothly and perfect all day every day! The first farrier isn’t to blame and they made sure someone better equipped to do so help the horse! It is exemplary to be able to admit ‘hey, a mistake happened and I don’t feel confident about being able to fix this alone, I need help, please?’
I'm sure it also comes down to a law (although this might not be in all states) that a farrier doesn't have a DVM license and can't work on live tissue. So if there's an open wound, a vet would need to be called in first to assess what can be done about the live tissue before a farrier can work on the hoof which is bloodless keratin. After all, if you make a mistake you don't want to hurt the animal further by trying to fix it. Horse was probably already freaked out and that's just a dangerous situation for everyone.
Respect to the previous farrier who made the mistake and owned up to it. Oftentimes, that takes real courage, respect and humility. As someone who almost went on to become a farrier and instead went into pipe welding, and then later into welding inspection, the best guys I know are the ones who are never too good to make a mistake and never too proud to admit it. The younger and newer guys are usually trying their best, and trying maybe a little too hard sometimes to earn their way, and earn more jobs/referrals/clients. I see so many young or new welders put in impossible situations, beyond their skills and experience, too afraid or too proud to admit they can't make that weld. It takes a LOT more skill and experience to fix a mistake, than to not make it in the first place. Also I am glad to read that you did add the other 2 bolts on the heels. Great move! Plus it also adds a little bit of stability to keep that shoe level when on hard ground, and possibly some traction. I love seeing the work done on this channel, if I can come back after this life, I would not mind being a farrier the next time around ;)
Kudos to the farrier who took responsibility for a mistake! I know from experience the pain of an injured horse and a farrier who blamed others. A very long time ago (more than 35 years) we had a horse with navicular disease. The vet recommended a farrier who could hot shoe the horse with a custom forged egg bar shoe. He also tried to correct her pigeon toed feet (the horse was over 12 at the time) by putting rounded toes and building up the inside edges. The bottom of the shoes were rounded - not flat - so it must have been like wearing balls. The only result was badly bowed tendons in both front legs which meant no more riding her (sad for so young a horse). He said the bowed tendons were not caused by his shoes, even though the vet thought it was. He made a poor decision. I think I would be less bitter about it if he had admitted it. We knew she would reach a point in her disease process where we wouldn't be able to ride her anymore, but it happened a lot earlier than it should have. She became a pasture pet for the rest of her life. She was 27 when her pain was too much to even stand.
I've had accidents trimming my 9lb cat's claws! I can only admire how farriers manage to do so much amazing work on 1,000lb animals. Accidents happen, I'm so glad there are ways to cope with them!
I nicked the quick of my rabbits claw one time, felt terrible for it and kept a very close eye on him for a few weeks, but it healed absolutely fine. Even with a thousand times doing it, accidents can happen.
Sharp tools, patients who can't always hold still, and whatever may be going on in the environment all lend themselves to accidents happening. I was standing talking quietly to my farrier when someone riding in the arena was bucked off and screamed, the horse tried to get thru the door into the isle where we were. Dogs ran to see the excitement and people yelled. A total nut house effect. Thank heaven the farrier wasn't doing anything delicate. Nobody died, got maimed or drew blood but it could have happened. Thank goodness for a farrier who sent the horse and customer for more delicate treatment and didn't just finish the job and leave.
Interesting solution to the issue. I am fascinated watching craftsmen in a trade outside my own experience at work, especially in fabrication. Mine was in aircraft mechanics. I am just astounded how easy you make it look to take flat stock and form, in effect, an orthopedic horseshoe. I am loving the channel.
Glad there was a solution. Lucky horse to have had the benefit of your expertise. It seemed to take it very well considering the wound and the painful experience it must have had. Thanks for sharing.
Can we get that young lass some safety glasses? She's eye level with the sparks coming off that anvil. I'm glad she's around to see what's going on and to learn. Not trying to be critical, just hate to see her have an eye injury.
The ability to honestly acknowledge a mistake is one of the most honorable, admirable qualities in a person. On a different note, why not add a second bolt to keep the shoe closed? Isn’t the single closure at the tip the least optimal?
It's sad that the horse was injured. However. I'm glad the first farrier called upon your expertise. This was an awesome training/teaching moment. I hope your students learned a great lesson that day!
The first ferrier is a real human. The accident happened and he knew where to refer the horse for higher level care. I am sure the vet sometimes has to be with the ferrier or also be a ferrier to treat some medical conditions or accidents.
I think the last farrier did a nice job. Accidents happen, you are trimming a flight animal, who might be well trained, but could still easily spook. Wish we had innovative farriery in New Zealand! Great job!
Interesting! How long will this shoe need to stay on? Does the bolt pose a danger to rolling the joint out of alignment? What kind of steel to you use for your shoes? Thanx! ✌🏻🎨☕️
I had my horse jerk a back foot from my farrier mid knife cut an had a real thin spot on his hoof. I always feel for the farrier they try so hard to do everything they can. I think it’s awesome that they can be referred to you for this kind of care!!
It’s too bad the horse had to be injured. Glad you were able to address the need for the medication to stay put. I understand that is usually the farrier who gets injured-what with working with large animals, red hot irons, sharp instruments and the like. Thank you for the interesting videos!
So i've had a question for a while. When you're removing height or length, is there ever a time where you'd need to worry about what the supporting tendons in the leg will do? I've seen some neglected hooves here where it looked like the knee was compensating and after the trim and/or shoeing wondered if the horse had to have medication as those tendons restretched or relaxed.
Some holes are missing ... And well, they sure would have connect with riveted pins in the back the horse shoe just to avoid the plate to be able to turn around ( tungsten ergots like ) As long as the lenth that bolt don't make it worst ... it'll do . Do the horse just miss the farrier but hit the anvil ? Mixed coal, silver nitrate, n grease will have it clean sealed in few says ... Sometime chalks ... Not the best place for a wound . But, not quite sure there's any good place for wounds . Dare, care, ride safe, clean, have fun ... From France with .
@@idahohorseshoeingschool Don't get me wrong ... Usually, we use what's called «easy-boot» for these ... It's an hard plastic othopedic horse shoe which is made for this kind a wound . We use it while in a hurry as a replacement during rides where farrier can't be find immediatly to get the horse to the veterinary stand ... As the running time during the ride stops once you enter the veterinary controls zone . After the veterinary controls, we have at least 20 minutes to find ... The one ! Long distances raids could be somehow kind a test for both horses, riders n ... Well, the surrounding team ! Thanks. Dare, care, ride safe, clean, have fun ... From France with .
As was stated, things happen. Show me a Farrier who hasnt made a mistake and ill show you either a liar or someone who hasnt shod many horses. Nobody likes to see a horse in pain but, as long as its not permanent damage and can be remedied, move foreword..
@@TightwadTodd Thankfully most horse owners are pretty realistic & understand that shit happens. I was using a paring knife on a hard baked summer hoof that broke & severed a horses artery. It only made a tiny cut but it just happened to cut through the digital artery where it bifurcates at the lateral cartilage & it pissed blood. The vet had to come & "pinch" the artery off & suture it closed.I offered to pay the vet bill but the horse owner refused. I've never used a F.Dick brand knife after that, they're too brittle.
Trouble is you don't know who is good and who just thinks they are. There are a few videos I watch and they are excellent at their craft and there are some who most definately should give it away and find a new calling.
A counter sunk rivet in front with a latch in the back would have been a better idea in my opinion. Looks like a brass screw which will wear down easily and let the plate fall off plus it isn't guaranteed to keep the plate from spinning and it will be weird, throw the horse off balance, like standing and stepping on a rock constantly.
It would be impossible for there never to be a accident but standing up and admitting that you messed up is a really hard thing to do. Alot of people would no doubt try and hide it.
When you make a horse shoe, do you reuse it each time (this one may be a once off given it’s unique circumstances) but in general, do you keep the same shoes or always make new ones?
30+ years ago my friends Arab needed a metal plate like this for a puncture wound on the sole near his frog. We were all fascinated watching the shoer create something us teens had never seen before. His shoe was a keg shoe so the heel was open and it had 3 bolts to undo. Your solution is a bit easier for the owner. But the horse healed well, so it's all good.
@Idaho Horseshoeing School I have a question where do you guys get you hoof knifes and other supplies. We are have a really hard time find a good knife. Thanks!
We all make mistakes. What one does after the mistake is made is most telling of all. Glad they called for backup and that the horse will be just fine.
should have used recessed/flush bolt heads to the cover plate. The protruding bolt heads will create an unlevelled/uneven bearing surface for the horse.. and the increase flat surface could result in minimized traction for that particular foot.
Hey! Im always curious how hard your actually hammering the metal. On a scale of 1-10 1 being a little tap to 10 being full “get outa my way” wackage how hard do you hit it when shaping like. Around the 1:20 mark of this video?
Angry Indian here and just want to say good job but I would of used the " tapered headed screws then added two more in a triangular position then added a rubber gasket in the shape of the plate you just fabricated!! Just a thought but you don't want anything getting in either just the terrier or owner... All the owner would have to do is remove two bolts un tighten the third one then slide the plate and gasket out of the way pack the whole cavity with that Shmoo, then when done simply slide the plate and gasket back to it's position making sure the holes and the gasket line up, replace the two, then tighten all three!!! I don't know if you like my idea but the screws that have those beveled heads and not just a octogon headed wich might make walking for the hoarse " wonky,, so use the beveled ones and that shoe will lay flatter and " be more stable to walk in!!! God bless ya boys hope ya liked my idea, just try it I promise it'll work!!!! I'm a metal fabricator!!! God bless Mr.b
Most horses, particularly horses with an injury, are kept on footing with some give to it. So that bolt would be like a human wearing running cleats, just gives that hoof a little extra purchase as that leg pushes off.
Was the redness blood? And is it similar to having a contusion from smashing your fingernail. Would it turn that dark blue black color? Also, it's always interesting watching you make custom shoes. 😁
why wouldnt you put a second retaining bolt? no bad mouthing just wondering because you said this was a daily checkup situation. Did the single bolt hold up in field?
My only question is, why wouldn’t you put indents or notches in the bottom of the metal plate where the horse is going to walk on? Because wouldn’t just the flat metal plate add more of a risk of slipping. I would say on maybe snow, but I’m assuming that it might not snow where you are but maybe like on wet grass. 🤷🏾♀️
That horse was not going to be moving any faster than a very slow walk for at least a week or two. If the owner has a lick of sense, that horse would be kept in as small an enclosure as possible to discourage any excess movement, so as not to risk further fracture to the sole of the hoof. When the horse started moving sound, that would be the sign to the owner to just take the plate off because the injury was healed over.
I don’t fault the original farrier - I’m trying to learn because my horse has thin soles. Was that the issue with this horse? …and the farrier just took a little too much off the sole during trimming? Thanks
my observation, put two upsets, one either side, near the back of the shoe when forging, this way the shoe wont spread, or is less likely to, when the horse loads it.
Great job, just a tip when drilling and tapping any steel use an oil or lubricant it will prevent your drill bits/taps from going dull and allow them to last longer
What was the reason for the accidental damage? Unusual hoof structure? Unfamiliarity by the previous farrier? Sudden unexpected movement from the horse? I bet the first farrier was horrified and sorry it happened. I just hope it didn’t make them feel unsure about themselves.
