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There is overlap with the Chaos Gods here and there as they always have, Khorne's whole want for Blood and Skulls could almost be fetishized (a certain line from a bear comes to mind too) which lines with Slaanesh and the constant slaughter can cause a form of stagnation and how those who die on those planets only to be renewed to die again? That's overlap with Nurgle. And Khorne can be clever like a rudimentary Tzeench even if it is just to set up for a massacre with glorious rivers of blood and valleys of skulls for that Throne. Likewise, Slannesh wants everlasting pleasure and pain which CAN overlap into Nurgle for the cyclic nature, Bloodplay is a thing and a battlelust lines some in Khorne's way, and obviously the varied ways of pleasure, secrets and perception altering matches Tzeench. Etc. Etc. Etc.
The gene-stealers and orks look adorably bad but the Space Marines look surprisingly decent. I mean... Those models were never supposed to move and the armor reflects that (just look through how many hoops they had to jump to make Captain Titus in Space Marine run). These marines look almost good.
According to writer Ian Watson who wrote several WH40 novels back in the day, that was what Stanley Kubrick said when he read the manuscript for his first such novel named Inquisitor (later retitled Draco) while they were working on a film script (for what would become AI: Artificial Intelligence)
Death Wing armor, weather it was Terminator armor or standard issue Mk.7, is bone white. If you do a little research, you find that back in 1991 when GW upgraded the space marine line to largely have all Mk.7 power suits, one of the options for Dark Angels was the Death Wing color scheme. This is something that has faded away over time, few remember this fact.
It's like when the cable company says they're sending over a guy, and then you spend all day at home waiting for them to arrive - you know they're coming, jus not exactly when...
As bad as the movie was, those costumes and gun props were actually really good. And the Bolters fired like I always imagined Bolters firing. So, damn, kudos to the costume designers and the foley artist. I just wish they had a better sound mixer to do the excellent sound effects justice.
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Snipe: “That’s not an inquisitor, that’s a gargoyle.” Well from what I understand basically anyone can be made an inquisitor so long as other members of the order give them the go. And radical-inquisitors who don’t do things the conventional way are certainly a thing that happens. So yeah, why not a gargoyle inquisitor? I mean, if a vampire can acquire the blessing of Sigmar than I guess anything’s possible.
Meanwhile my acting as Khorne Beserker would be to have head spasms while screaming the 4 magical sentence: *BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!* *SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!* *KILL! MAIM! BURN!!!* *LET THE GALAXY BURN!!!*
As a young lad at Games Day ‘97, I missed Inquisitor as I walked past the cinema room in the one way waking system they had going on and wasn’t allowed to walk back to it… I always thought security were dicks for that… turns out they had my best interests at heart. Thanks, security!
Holy fuck they used to play this on the giant projectors at Games Day way back when, shit the memories of the flying ship entered into Golden Daemon are just flooding back.
God it’s been 6 years since I stumbled across this channel after my dad died and I went through an ‘amicable’ breakup. Thanks for keeping on Snipe and Wib
Snipe and Wib ahh just make a big 'fair use' litigation thingy come up at the start and make sure you say 'such and such is the property of our lords and masters at Games Workshop and this is a fan-made production made without financial gain to us so please don't destroy us' and you'll (probably) be fine
She actually looks like a Sister, If she did a good cosplay as one I'd be questioning for a moment whether a Warp portal had opened nearby. Come to think of it he looks like he would make a good Inquisitor...
The backpack bothered me to, but last time I checked the lore on power armor, a space marine can go without his pack for a short period of time, 20 hours I think, so for all we know the captain lost it like he lost his squad, or a headset that didn't look like he had a part time job at a call center.
+William Roark (Inventor29) Aye they can indeed operate without them for a time but there's no way they'd embark on a mission of indeterminate length without one and anyway, acknowledging that implies the film makers thought more about it than I think they did :p
+Snipe and Wib Actually, in the black libraby book "Scorched Earth"by Nick Kyme a space marine gets his backpackpowercables ripped out and he discards most of his armour besides the hard outer layer to keep some protection. He seems not to be hindered by this as it only makes him a little slower and a tiny bit more noisy (but he is a Raven Guard so he's always sneaky). Also, have you guys seen Battleleet Gothic: Armada? It's a new 40k RTS available on Steam based on the tabletop version. It will release on april 21 but you can already play the first 3 missions and the multiplayer if you pre-order. Anyway, love your content, and your ork converzion skillz are imprezzive!
Wib at the end, during the Blood for the Blood God bit, has the look of "I have to spend all the ad money this month to go pay bail now." I hope Snipe didn't hurt anyone innocent that night.
Holy Throne of Terra, I really could have gone the rest of my life without knowing about these "films". I mean, i'm sure someone at my FLG mentioned them and I imediately dismissed the comment as chaos addled heresy...but damn the ruinous forces, now I have to find them and add them to my Librariatrium. Good show, gods hellp us.
13:31 - that probably wasn't a reference to the old "Rocks are NOT 'free', citizen" letter published in White Dwarf 227, but you did remind me of it, and I'm grateful for that!
Aahh this takes me back. When I was a kid they used to play these on repeat on a projector in Bugman's Bar, plus there was a studio tour at Warhammer World and all of these costumes were set up as life size dioramas. Those were the days... Also, yes, Dark Angels captains had a tendency to wear white, even in power armour, in 2nd edition (Dark Millennium box art being a prime example) and +1 points for mentioning Coventry!
I knew there was a link to Cov with this video. I overheard a conversation at Games Day 96' which mentioned Bright Light Studios being based there. Never got to see those costumes at Warhammer World though, proper jealous!
So while watching this being riffed... hearing the inquisitors name being Krieger, and that he is inept makes me imagine a 40k parody with Archer..... imagine Inquistor Krieger amd Brother Sterling....
So, so hyped to finally see this. I remember seeing stills of this in issues of WD and being well into the Space Wolf terminators. There was a comp in the magazine around issue 169 (how do I even recall that) to win one of the suits. Some kid won it and it took up half of his room in the photo. Wonder where it is today? Thanks for the review, my nostalgia is satisfied - the hole is weakened.
I wish I could give you like 60 thumbs up! the best part is where you rant about the purity seal being the size of a birthday badge, I pissed myself!!!
This wierd story was meant to be the easter egg for the future Necrons (it also revealed Blackstone, which started showing up in the game around that time, as the Fortresses and the Pylons). I brought it up at the GW I fequented around 1999 and their response was literally "We don't talk about that movie..." out of sheer embarrassment, so yes, GW knew it was bad from the moment they finished it. Along with "Believe me, I've seen it, it isn't worth your time." Back in those days the only possible way to see it was to own a copy of the VHS which was handed out at Games Day, was it in 96 or 97 can't remember (I think it was both) and they only ever had a limited number, the staff at my store went to Games Day, they did see it but no one at the store or in the area brought home a copy. Apparently people coveted it. Pretty much anything that was Forge World or Games Day only related back in the 90s was coveted, even if it was absolute garbage.
So the life-size terminator and chaos marine costumes from the trailers at the end were on display for a while at Warhammer World in the days before the current exhibition centre got built, along side a blood angel who may have been a re-paint of one of the Dark Angels. I do remember being told by the tour guide that the Terminator required a powerful shove to get moving, and someone ended up falling down a flight of stairs while wearing it because it wasn’t easy to stop once momentum took hold. Which sounds about right.
What annoyed me the most were that the Khornate Marines' tactics were way out of character, I don't think Khorne would be so happy about them sneaking through walls and stuff. Also, Snipe? Are you a New Zealander? Your accent sounds quite kiwi. Anyway! Keep up the great work guys!
Swap it for a Word Bearer and it'd be an easy fix, honestly. Esoteric rituals and reverance for all of Ka-os doesn't mean a fragment of them wouldn't be using khornate slogans and all that.
About backpacks - it seems it was a different thing back then. For example, in the cutscenes for "Chaos gate" it is pretty normal to see some marines not wearing them on a ship between the missions, and even lose in a duel to chaos lord, both not wearing the backpack, right on the CD-cover lol
This was a series of short films played at GW games day (a GW convention) I was there. At the time GW was a relatively small company. The budget for this was probably tiny, special effects were expensive and only for big films and cosplay wasn't even a thing. It was practically a fan move. At the time seeing a space marine on TV was amazing. And yes I'm old.
I remember seeing this projected on a big screen at Warhammer World back in the 90s. the Infestation teaser still gives me that feeling of childlike anticipation and excitement.
I think I've seen these costumes on display at Warhammer world back in very early 2000s. They used to have an exhibit you could pay to walk round and they had various scenes like terminators being ambushed etc. Also while the video was awful I think it deserves props for trying and it's a shame that this probably lead them to the belief it wasn't worth the bother doing live action space marines in some form of media.
I had an interveiw as a make up artist for brightlight studios (the guys who made inquisitor) and it was a fun time. The video did no favours to the powerarmour. the costumes was actually very good, the Space wolf terminator is huge and held up by scaffolding poles. the guns were fun to play with too.
the khorne marines should have probabky been made into thousands sons, especially when you see them not running intobmelee, using warp stuff and not screaming but instead biding their time for the proper timing
Hello Snipe and Wib luv yr work! I swear I remember seeing all three videos you have showcased at the opening of Games Workshop Bourke Street Melbourne back in.... oh, circa 1996 I think... the films looked as whatever back then and more so now, cheers
A big thank you Snipe and Wib for you 13minute review, ha nobody has a 13 minute review!!!!! :) Are you considering reviewing the spoof where I'm Captain Anus....hehe....Thanx for your comments, yours Captain Darius/Anus!
Check page 30 and 33 of the Rogue Trader era book "Warhammer 40k Compilation" from 1991, just a few years before this film. There are 1st company Deathwing marines in normal power armour painted white. BTW this book, plus the Battle Manual and Vehicle manual from the following year in 1992 should really be covered. They are crucial for understanding why 40k went from Rogue Trader weirdness and semi-RPG elements to 2nd edition which broadly had the same thematic and design as modern 40k and was designed as a full wargame. They basically form what could be seen as 40k version 1.5 and reading the background and art is MUCH closer to what we now consider 40k than the late 80s material. So much of the fluff and units that are core to the various factions were fleshed out at this stage.
5 years late to this, but the 2nd edition Warhammer 40K expansion, Dark Millenium, had a White armoured Dark Angel captain on the cover, so yes, I think they did retcon that when 3rd ed game out.
The Blood Angel Captain on the cover of Space Crusade was in white armour too. I think early on GW intended Captains to have white armour, like Librarians have blue and Chaplains black.
4:56 wait why is darius, an astartes, wearing a gas mask, while kreiger isn't? inquisitors are just normal humans and astartes have antibacterial defenses so strong that airborne nurglite toxins don't even effect them (unless they've got an open wound) so surely in what is probably an inhospitable atmosphere kreiger would be the one with the gas mask?
