I hate "conference realignment." It's just destruction of everything that was cool about college football. As for the Pac 10, it's dead, unfortunately. I'm still sad that my school left the old Big 12 ten years ago.
I'm a Mizzou alum. I like these comments from Eli. (SEC fans, please don't come for me and keep telling me how much Mizzou doesn't belong in your league. I never wanted to leave the Big 12 anyway. Jerks.)
Arkansas fan here. I'm glad you're in the league. You should be too, if you wasn't you would be right there with Kansas, sweating bullets for the last 3 years. We're not all assholes in the SEC. Just a small handful of fans.
You took the check but also took the losses. I am curious for real with this question. Would you rather be a mid to lower mid team in the SEC for pretty much the foreseeable future like you are, or be back in the Big 12 and 8-4 or 9 and 3 and have a shot at that magical year, like TCU? You have security and money but a magical season these days gets you third place in the SEC East at best. I think a lot of teams don't think about all the losses are going to take when they move into their new conference. I will never see any of the money that my school is getting, so if my school has no shot by moving into a better conference, is it really better? I suppose the answer is it's worth it for almost everyone, but there is something to have a winning football team and a legit shot at the playoffs every now and then rather than being an also ran in a bigger conference. None of this is meant to be snarky by the way, just curious. I found Missouri a fascinating case. You guys had seemed to turn the corner In the years before you came to the SEC, and then won it the first two years.. since then there has been an occasional decent year, but It looks like you guys are going to be stuck in fourth place or lower in the SEC East for a while. Is that more exciting than competing for a Big 12 title?
@@GR-bn3xj this is a great question to ask OU and Texas in 5 years. To me, I'd rather be a 9 and 3 SEC team, than a 11 and 1 big 12 team. Every game in the SEC is a great game. That SEC badge on your chest carries weight nation wide. And not just TV weight nation wide, but recruiting weight nation wide.
Greed and ineptness is what's destroying college athletics. And it breaks my heart. It shouldn't be this way. To sit here and do nothing, and let it happen, is just something I can't do. We as a sports community have got to do something to be heard and let these greedy bastards know, they can't screw with us. Cuz if we don't. It will get worse.
Well the teams that are getting the money certainly aren't going to do anything nor are their fans. It will take fans of the other half of the NCAA football teams to do something about it by not watching. The 12 team playoff will help keep the interest of the 60 or so other teams, But truth be told they need the millions of fans that comprise those schools to watch their games in order to keep getting this money. The only thing we can really do is complain about it on social media and not watch. Since I'm a big fan of college football it's hard to not watch but I am not a fan of making the Gap bigger. They already had every advantage in the book
who cares? money is the only reason conferences exist in the first place. rich get richer has been the underlying principle in college football for decades
Stanford and Cal are getting a rude awakening. Elitist attitude toward the Big 12 a few years back and inflated idea of the value they'd bring to a conference is coming home to roost.
From a guy making 6-7 million a year off the huge tv contract. It's real easy to find fault of everyone else while pretending we aren't involved. Missouri switched conferences for more money not so long ago too.
@bademann1 idk what he had to do with Missouri moving over a decade ago ? Or why is he disqualified from having an opinion on how it affects other athletes aside from football?
@@darthcaseybasquiat it's not real. He is benefiting from the same thing that is causing these schools to move now. He acts like it's such a harmful thing but isn't offering to give back the millions of dollars he is getting because of the same situation. Complaining about others attempting to get the funding his school already has.
What the Missouri coach was talking about with the student athletes of the less popular sports traveling so far is what I was saying after the initial USC and UCLA decision. A lot of these programs don't generate enough revenue to be able to fly to all of their games. These are ridiculously long bus rides. I imagine a lot of them will join more regional conferences for specific sports like does happen quite a bit alright (like how Notre Dame is Independent for Football and part of the ACC for Basketball and most sports, but in the Big Ten in Hockey and the Big East for Lacrosse). Unfortunately, I also foresee an uptick in specific sports programs for individual schools discontinuing their teams
I do understand this one particular point but the Missouri coach making 6 million a year for a sub .500 coaching record at Missouri because they left the Big 12 for SEC is benefitting from this realignment thinking he is trashing. He sounds like companies like Lulu Lemon who made billions then call out capitalism.
@@kevinhothan7328 he wasn't HC at mizzou when they left, he wasn't a part of the decision at all when they left. He also didn't come out and say "it was fine when mizzou did it but not these other schools" nor did he come out and say "any coaches at these programs that are moving should quit" your argument is so idiotic it's genuinely worrying.
@@baileym4708 your logic is so fraught with holes it's almost funny. he wasn't HC at mizzou when they left, nor was he involved in the decision for them to leave. He also didn't say what they did was okay, nor did he say that these other coaches should be ashamed. catch up sport.
Someone please tell me why Oregon state and Washington state don’t deserve to be in the big 12? Both schools deserve it way more then arizona and arizona state let alone Colorado
Wise man there at Missouri. I am an Oregon alum and I am pissed and depressed about this, they just threw 108 years of tradition out the window, threw Oregon State and Washington State, who are our family, under the bus! Its shameful. I mean I get it that the Apple "TV" deal was a joke and the Pac 12 has had horrible leadership for years and its no one in college footballs fault that Disney is in dire financial straits so there is no more lucrative contracts from ABC or ESPN anymore, but it all just sucks.
as an oregon fan i'm more than understanding of why we left, and sort of realise it's that "unnecessary evil" people talk about... but I'm still super disappointed that it got to the point where leaving was our best bet, it's beyond infuriating how inept the pac12 leadership was.
Honestly, as a Utah fan, I’m not too mad. It will be nice being back in conference with BYU, so we can have our rivalry back. Staying in a P5 Conference will be nice, especially bc the Big 12(16?) is much better than the PAC. I definitely think it will make things harder on other sports, though.
@@MrRo004 You know leagues don’t care how successful at football you are they care about how many fans and how affluent that are. No team in the SEC outside of Texas and Vanderbilt is close.
Lol.. they really asked could you take 9 of us except for OSU and WSU.. fuck. What's wrong with them? Especially OSU. What can't have 2 OSU's in the Big 12?
I saw Coach Eli’s comments yesterday and he is 1000% correct. Not to mention, other schools will use that against the likes of UCLA. Negative recruiting is a real thing.
For the sports that play more than once a week, let's set up different divisions they can play in during the week and they can travel farther outside their division on the weekends.
It will not surprise me at all to hear that certain nonprofit generating sports like volleyball, crew, tennis, etc are canceled due to the extra cost associated with the travel. Also, I'm willing to bet that one or more actual football programs consider shutting down also. Most of these decision makers would rather eat one of their own children than miss out on TV money. What a shame. Luckily the Rugby World Cup starts in September so we have some actual on field sports to watch.
The days of How you performed on the field are gone, which is sad. Teams that have done very little winning in the last 15 to 20 years are getting huge deals because they did well a long time ago, and teams that are doing well now are getting left behind or getting smaller deals. It's pathetic
The only people thay like these moves are the conference commissioners and the media. Coaches like Saban and Pete Carroll have openly stated they see these mergers as hurting the sport.
I think we know it was Arizona, pretty funny when you consider Oregon State and Washington State would eat Arizona's lunch on the field and its not exactly like Arizona in little Tucson is a major media market, lol.
i mean arizona is likely a larger media market than the other 2 schools, and college football is only 1 of MANY sports these schools play.. but it is still objectively wrong to do what was alleged.
Some of these school that are at the bottom of there conferences need to help rebuild the pac12 this will give them the opportunity to actually compete for a conference title, playoff spot, or new year six bowl.
Something we forget - football subsidizes the Olympic sports. The solution I see - these big regional conferences for football and all other sports are members of more local conferences.
See the problem here is, Eli was speaking the truth. It was an intelligent, well throughout statement, that made sense. That's why college football people don't understand what he's saying. Next, they are going to label him a witch, and burn him at the stake.
the fact that he's actually receiving backlash for what he said FROM the fans is just mind-blowing to me... so much "whataboutism" with what he said, people rambling about missouri doing the same thing like a decade before he was ever at the program... it's a joke.
The realignment is about TV rights for Football and Basketball. That money gets distributed to the other sports. Put the other sports back in their regional conferences so they don’t have to travel. Most scholarship athletes are not there to become professional athletes, especially outside of Football Basketball!
Greed, bad hiring to run the PAC 12 and incompetence... As a teen in the 70's I always enjoyed watching the Rose Bowl PAC 10 v BIG 10 Thanks greedy bastards for ruining EVERYTHING 😮😮😮
Cal/Stanford's arrogance and pride are what killed the pac. Every time an expansion candidate was brought up it was always "not a good cultural fit" or "not up to our academic standards." Now they get to see their programs rot in the G5 as a direct consequence of their smugness. It's almost poetic tbh. OSU and WSU don't deserve this though. I hope they're able to find a way to get back on their feet somehow.
Stanford is the only school in the Pac-4 that could realistically support an independent FBS program, but to do that they would have to eat into their endowment for a few years. The real question becomes: Would Stanford be willing to make that short-term sacrifice for athletics which they haven't really seemed to prioritize, especially given how great Stanford is academically. I think it's not an impossible outcome that they give up on athletics to varying degrees.
Im guessing it was a Utah president who made that call. Based on the math. All 9 of us minus Washington St and Oregon St. That's 11 remaining schools(UCLA and USC already gone) wasn't the pac12 bragging about how great their academic standards were?
5:35: actually softball and baseball are just about worst 2 sports you could've used for your example since the northern schools travel south for like first month and a half of the season.
I totally agree I don’t like the change they doing with the pac 12 I love the old classic college football and he’s right about traveling that’s not cheap just to jump on a plane go support your school this want happen for long i don’t think
Who cares about college football players getting paid like pros? Who cares about players transferring because hurt your feelings? College football was already self destructing!
I think the PAC 4 going to the AAC makes sense from an academic standpoint, which we know Stanford and Cal care about. Oregon State and Wazzu aren’t that bad academically either. The AAC has Rice, SMU, Tulane, FAU and Navy, all very elite academic institutions.
Act like he,cares about athlete students . Washington University presidenti said exactly same thing. What a . lair . They insult our intelligence. Everything is business. If not for business , he would be teacher some where and pay 50k a year
I think the rest of the conference should just go to the AAC. But if they're going to rebuild from scrap schools, they should make NDSU move up. I think that dynasty has been a bit tame the past couple seasons, but NDSU is still something to consider.
I understand that Football is the money maker, but to do this and make every other athlete suffer in unconscionable. I mean at this point D1 athletes will no longer be student athletes. I simply don't understand how this works. You are telling me that UCLA rowing, gymnastics, water polo, tennis, etc. are all going to be traveling cross-country every week to play games. Insanity.
I'm sorry, but I just don't think Harris commentary makes sense, especially the Missouri coach. 1.) He talks about reading that some athletes chose to stay close to home so their parents could watch. Their other option was to chose a school that wasn't close to home then right? The fact that now road games are further hasn't nothing to do with playing close to home. If you pick a school close to home you are still close to home. Stop trying to make this an oppression / victim narrative for the entitled. What do you think D3 students who don't have scholarships have to do when they travel compared to this D1 huge conference teams on scholarship? Entitlement at its fullest. 2.) Not in this video but the same coach during the same press conference basically trashes this idea of realignment AFTER he is the benefactor. He makes 6 million a year for coach a team with a sub .500 record simply because Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC. I hate when people and companies benefit then want to virtue signal things are wrong. 3.) The idea that Oregon St, Washington St and Cal are three power teams and "what did they do to deserve this" need to stop. There is a reason the B10 and B12 didn't want them. They played and benefitted money wise and prestige (Power 5 conference) because teams like USC carried them in football and Arizona and UCLA in basketball. You take away their Power 5 conference designation and put them in a group of 5 conference and make them recruit like a Mountain West school, they are no different than any other Mountain West school. They aren't victims, they just don't have the market share or appeal to draw a Power 5 conference. They are not victims, they were just fortunate all these years to be in a Power 5 conference. 4.) To make matters worse of everyone over inflating Oregon St. Wash St. and Cal, now they think they have leverage (I don't understand) and ideas are being thrown around if they join the MW, they would do so only if they "trim the fat" and remove 3-4 other teams like Hawaii, San Jose State and Nevada for them to join (so money they get more money). Obviously, the Pac 3 money wise would prefer the American over the MW because of media deal but they are coming in like they are Power 5 programs and not realizing they are teams who just benefitted being in a Power 5 conference that really can't compete or have the brand.
you wrote all that and had about 1 valid argument, and that was about the situation with oregon state, wash st etc etc your argument in your first 2 points was so embarrassingly bad it's genuinely funny that someone can write a sentence of complete and utter nonsense.
I'm calling B.S. on that comment. Why would a president say take all "9" of us except for OSU/Wazzu? It makes no sense, and that's not how intelligent people talk.
