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Pokemon Competitive Singles in Gen 3 has a long history, and some very creative high level players.
Here are some of the most insane strategies that have somehow worked in High level play. These include the Pokemon Victreebel, Electrode and Gardevoir.
Is this insane? Absolutely.
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@jimothycool
@jimothycool 3 месяца назад
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@senny-
@senny- 3 месяца назад
"This is incredible" - Tyranitar
@subtodicerat8305
@subtodicerat8305 3 месяца назад
magneton is the one who did the phishing scam to porygon2 as revenge to its tormenting
@empressassassin9975
@empressassassin9975 3 месяца назад
I cannot believe you talked about Porygon2 and internet safety without making a PorygonZ joke
@RangerJackWalker
@RangerJackWalker 3 месяца назад
I felt sorry for Porygon2 being the victim of a phishing scam but then I saw how it tortured poor Magneton with its partner-in-crime Gardevoir.
@nift36
@nift36 3 месяца назад
Magneton didn't deserve this : (
@astropult9377
@astropult9377 3 месяца назад
That was Porygon2 in the past, they have changed and apologized since. Porygon2 and Magneton are now best friends for being a man made second stage that gained an evolution in Gen 4 and (For their first stage atleast) being gen 1 pokemon. Whatever happened to separating the art from the artist. Let’s not attack Porygon2
@bigweathertruther6373
@bigweathertruther6373 3 месяца назад
Porygon2 went to a few classes at the Apple Store upon the pleading requests of its son, Porygon-Z. Little did anyone know, P2 was learning how to disassemble magnetons and turn them into torturous lovecraftian abominations. Do not trust Porygon2.
@cubedmelons876
@cubedmelons876 2 месяца назад
Don't feel bad. The phishing scam made it stronger in gen 4.
@baldrian22
@baldrian22 3 месяца назад
"gg bro i have been defeated" nice to see people take those strats calmly and not go full pyscho in the chat
@marcelomelo9977
@marcelomelo9977 3 месяца назад
Unfortunate doesn't even beggi-
@judeloveless9427
@judeloveless9427 3 месяца назад
Saying something that generic when you lose suggests you are about to put a hole in your drywall but yeah lol
@pikminman13
@pikminman13 3 месяца назад
i take my anger out on the mon, if its fat i hope it obesity does it in
@brastionskywarrior6951
@brastionskywarrior6951 3 месяца назад
he probably went through every stage of grief through the course of that game
@tecul1
@tecul1 3 месяца назад
that guy also lost to full bp in spl at one point, a great man
@leonardovalente9772
@leonardovalente9772 3 месяца назад
imagine being me and thinking the torment skarm + dug + gardevoir was the most evil thing on the planet and learning that there is actually an evil 2.0 going around in this video
@tecul1
@tecul1 3 месяца назад
the starf recycle porygon2 + lock dug into aerial ace bait request must come back haha
@insanityinacan
@insanityinacan 3 месяца назад
It's pretty distressing that Porgygon2 has been victim of a phishing scam, folks. Here's hoping he'll be okay
@VilasNil
@VilasNil 3 месяца назад
He got so angry with the phishing scam that he decided to ruin Magneton's existence
@Wompond
@Wompond 3 месяца назад
Hope he doesn’t download any dubious disks
@senny-
@senny- 3 месяца назад
It was a clever foreshadowing for his villain arc starting at 9:30. Bravo, Jimothy.
@nift36
@nift36 3 месяца назад
fuck Porygon-2 I'll never forgive them for what they did to poor Magneton : ( I'll always remember Magneton in my heart, what a cutie
@nift36
@nift36 3 месяца назад
@@jackwalker7304 I staunchly disagree
@BiffTheBanana
@BiffTheBanana 3 месяца назад
The NordVPN sponsor spot? Jim is officially a youtuber now, this is epic.
@dragozero
@dragozero 3 месяца назад
wen Raid Shadow Legends
@BiffTheBanana
@BiffTheBanana 3 месяца назад
@@dragozero think he's already done that
@wentoneisendon6502
@wentoneisendon6502 3 месяца назад
Benefits of being a true epic gamer
@beechteeth
@beechteeth 3 месяца назад
this is insane
@TheJoshmou
@TheJoshmou 3 месяца назад
In gen 3 OU, it's not uncommon to see some truly outthere strategies in high level play.
@NightSkyNyx
@NightSkyNyx 3 месяца назад
If a Pokémon has just one or two unique tools at its disposal that nothing else has, there’s probably some way to take advantage of that on a competitive team
@mitchmcturtle2098
@mitchmcturtle2098 3 месяца назад
Some examples include Roselia, who has been used in high-level games before due to its unique combination of typing and moveset options.
@mariusvfl1848
@mariusvfl1848 3 месяца назад
Some examples include Roselia, which has been used in high level games before, due to its unique combination of typing and moveset options.
@Roachdawgjunior
@Roachdawgjunior 3 месяца назад
Wailord has the combination of Water Spout and Self-Destruct, making it a pretty nice aggressive opener on special offense teams and an effective lure for special walls
@hime1896
@hime1896 3 месяца назад
Even butterfree has some merit, due to its ability Compound Eyes; granting it a highly accurate sleep powder and stun spore. Nothing else in the game has an accurate sleep and paralysis move.
@drachenbuster
@drachenbuster 3 месяца назад
Gardevoir's Ghoulish Gambit
@godknightomega
@godknightomega 3 месяца назад
"This Magneton has a very fitting nickname for this situation by the way." Didn't even notice until it was mentioned and spit my drink all over my phone, thanks for that.
@adam9279
@adam9279 3 месяца назад
In gen 3 OU, it's not uncommon to see some truly out there strategies in high-level play.
@agiruda8380
@agiruda8380 3 месяца назад
I’m not sure why, but I feel like Porygon-2 could be another mascot of the channel.
@Zerox_Z21
@Zerox_Z21 3 месяца назад
It was the old Netbattle mascot too so makes sense there, which I mostly associate with Gen 3 besides.
@hotcoldfire8273
@hotcoldfire8273 3 месяца назад
this was the best start of a nordvpn sponsor ever
@KingWafl
@KingWafl 3 месяца назад
Porygon2 ain't no victim, Bud steals people's identities all the time with Trace. He is the fisherman!
@AggRhon
@AggRhon 3 месяца назад
I honestly feel bad for that last magneton, the name was pretty fitting for it lmao
@Jromethelord
@Jromethelord 3 месяца назад
Gen 3 OU will always hold a ..... "special" place in my heart.
@RecycleYourStyrofoam
@RecycleYourStyrofoam 3 месяца назад
I'm not saying that magneton was the one who stole Porygon2's data, but it is suspicious that this happened mere weeks after their bout
@AdalHRivera
@AdalHRivera 3 месяца назад
Metagames in general have such a beautiful push and pull that can be taken advantage of: under certain circumstances, the more a strategy is used, the more valuable it is to use other strategies
@dVector13
@dVector13 3 месяца назад
all magneton wanted to do is zap some skarmory, what did it ever do to deserve such inhumane treatment
@Duffy_SSBM
@Duffy_SSBM 3 месяца назад
I really like this look at specific teams from specific players, especially how you give insight into what players are known for. It makes Gen 3 OU seem even more like a thriving meta game to have known players with certain styles
@haydenn7123
@haydenn7123 3 месяца назад
Ngl I actually love it when RU-vidrs like JimCool get sponsors in their video. He deserves the additional revenue for all his hard work and it increases the chances of him continuing to produce content. Also RIP Porygon2
@endy7630
@endy7630 3 месяца назад
'DyingIsAGift' had me dying XD
@thewhatness
@thewhatness 3 месяца назад
Love to see the team with The Strokes nicknames. Great taste, Jimothy. 🎸🤘
@MAYOFORCE
@MAYOFORCE 3 месяца назад
Honestly didn't know accuracy dropping moves weren't banned, but iirc Gardevoir could learn Hypnosis via egg move
@MD-vs9ff
@MD-vs9ff 2 месяца назад
It's because you can always switch out to reset the accuracy drops. You can't switch out of your opponent's evasion boosts.
@Magmagan
@Magmagan 3 месяца назад
Trace punishing magnet pull is my new favorite thing 😆
@aldrichunfaithful3589
@aldrichunfaithful3589 3 месяца назад
i definitely agree with banning accuracy dropping moves, there's an argument to be made that most of the time it isn't too impactful, but the issue is that it's pure luck and sometimes it can totally shut down your opponent. in a tournament game if you use a counter team and correctly predict a magneton or something that's fair enough but on the ladder if you get caught out by this bs, or a ninjask gets off sand attack and you keep missing to allow a sweep, it just sucks and you couldn't prevent it at all. it's uncompetitive and that's the whole point of bans
@homerman76
@homerman76 3 месяца назад
It's also a very valid concern when you consider that evasion buffs were banned for similar reason, the only reason accuracy drops normally get a pass is because they can be easily countered by switching out, much like confusion or attract, but that changes when people find a way to actually abuse said moves in an unfun way.
@aldrichunfaithful3589
@aldrichunfaithful3589 3 месяца назад
@@homerman76 yh that's the funny thing about accuracy dropping is that 99% of the time it's useless anyway, which means that nothing of value is lost by banning it so what's the point in even keeping it
@naturalharmoniagropius4486
@naturalharmoniagropius4486 3 месяца назад
In Gen 3 OU...
@DQplz
@DQplz 3 месяца назад
This is the only youtube ad I've ever actually watched
@AndrewRKenny
@AndrewRKenny 3 месяца назад
I was losing it the whole sponsorship bit 😂. Your sense of humour just hits with me.
@LivncA_Dis3
@LivncA_Dis3 2 дня назад
The way he does advertising is just absolutely hilariously entertaining and bloody brilliant
@DoodleWill
@DoodleWill 3 месяца назад
Been playing Gen 3 for about nearly a year now. I really enjoy the format. Keep up the cool videos. I've been using Poliwrath in OU and its been surprisingly consistant. A good counter to alot of the problematic water types and resisting rock type attacks is always good.
@PrinceSilvermane
@PrinceSilvermane 3 месяца назад
I love Trace! Both Porygon 2 and Gardevoir are amazing with it. There's so many shenanigans you can pull with it both in Gen 3 and beyond. Tracing abilities that give immunities, tracing abilities that trap, tracing intimidate for a more free swap in, I'm sure there's even more examples of things you can pull but it's incredibly versatile in what you can do with it.
@James-yk5ge
@James-yk5ge 3 месяца назад
i was testing out a magnetron team when the last gardevoir vid came out and it was literally the only team i played against on ladder for like two days lol
@canaldecasta
@canaldecasta 3 месяца назад
Today I learned Roselia has 100 spatk what
@walaceandrade4046
@walaceandrade4046 3 месяца назад
It was designed as a fully evolved pokemon in its debut generation, makes sense
@essentures
@essentures 3 месяца назад
@@walaceandrade4046 Gastly too, also Abra has 105!
@theschnozzler
@theschnozzler 3 месяца назад
​@@essenturesabra is a funny guy. With 15 defense it is frailer than a stick but it's really fast and strong by first stage standards
@canaldecasta
@canaldecasta 3 месяца назад
@@walaceandrade4046 yeah but I never expected it to match venu etc. With Spinda and the lot existing
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 3 месяца назад
​@@walaceandrade4046 Duosion:👀
@That_Guy_From
@That_Guy_From 3 месяца назад
I fully agree with banning accuracy dropping moves
@cristhianmontoya6648
@cristhianmontoya6648 3 месяца назад
Why?
@homerman76
@homerman76 3 месяца назад
@@cristhianmontoya6648 Because it leads to degenerate strategies like this, it's the same reason for why evasion buffing moves are bad, sure there are some interesting strategies, but those strategies are also rather unfun when they go off. They're also just not very good normally, so you're really only striking down degenerate strategies by removing them from the game, especially since Magneton is a rather important part of the meta as a counter for Skarmory.
@communistgamer3267
@communistgamer3267 3 месяца назад
​@@homerman76 But in turn evasion boosting and accuracy lowering can be countered, especially when a whole team is built around them
@ASwallie65
@ASwallie65 3 месяца назад
Jimothy, This was the greatest ad read of all time
@mint4738
@mint4738 2 месяца назад
Your love and knowledge of gen 3 is so interesting. Wish there were RU-vidrs who did this for every gen (RU-vidrs with Knowledge of there gen like you have for gen 3)
@tobin2.0
@tobin2.0 3 месяца назад
Jimothy Cool is do funny that i even laugh at the ad break
@tonyaldante1017
@tonyaldante1017 3 месяца назад
I think everyone needs more freak strategies conceptualised by sickos in gen 3
@kingdedede4856
@kingdedede4856 3 месяца назад
would love more videos like this, both Gen 3 and other gens!
@letswaveabook3183
@letswaveabook3183 3 месяца назад
I once had a Gardevoir set to trap Blissey. It uses mean look, calm mind, rest and psychich and the speed berry. People generally gladly swtich in Blissey against Gaurdevoir... I like the way Jim calls the pokemon "morally bankrupt".
@CoNteMpTone
@CoNteMpTone 3 месяца назад
"Morally bankrupt" had me rolling
@matd2892
@matd2892 3 месяца назад
I love learning new things about gen 3! More videos please. Also I love the daily uploads of laddering.
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
Porygon2 whenever it switches into an trapper to give it a taste of its own medicine: I'm not trapped in here with you. *You're trapped in here with me.*
@elessar4864
@elessar4864 3 месяца назад
1 minute in and I gotta say the sponsor intro is brilliant, dare I say absolutely insane!
@llorens2573
@llorens2573 3 месяца назад
this video just confirmed that explosion the pinacle of the high-level play needed in gen 3 OU
@grunkleg.3110
@grunkleg.3110 3 месяца назад
7:42 Dance of Pales ❤
@nunoarmond3973
@nunoarmond3973 3 месяца назад
I enjoyed this, we should do more entries of this in the future.
@xanadu8436
@xanadu8436 3 месяца назад
legendary series, would love to see more
@FissionCube
@FissionCube 3 месяца назад
every time he brings up SEA i know shes going to have done something insane
@Naxafa
@Naxafa 3 месяца назад
No jokes, today I built a mono-grass team and Roselia was so good. 😭 Btw, I'm trying to create footage winning with mono-teams, but I don't know good screen record engines. If anyone has a suggestion let me know, thank you. 😊
@cockgaming3745
@cockgaming3745 3 месяца назад
OBS!!
@boilt
@boilt 3 месяца назад
try OBS
@Desolateinfinity
@Desolateinfinity 3 месяца назад
You've figured out the format to make me not skip ads lol.
@deinoccocuschoroy7312
@deinoccocuschoroy7312 3 месяца назад
"Diying is a Gift" how ironic...
@Mijzelffan
@Mijzelffan 3 месяца назад
Can't wait to see you try to cheese the ladder with this on Jimothy Gaming
@dearozero3631
@dearozero3631 3 месяца назад
That Gardevoir is madness
@ParlorTattooProject
@ParlorTattooProject 2 месяца назад
Whoever nicknamed their Pokémon after Strokes songs is awesome.
@petro5747
@petro5747 3 месяца назад
When you brought up the speeds stats and I saw ninjask, i have to ask if anyone has ever tried an adamant choice band ninjask? a crazy set for revenge killing and switching in on ground moves then baton passing out a speed boost
@tecul1
@tecul1 3 месяца назад
sadly, ninjask must stay in for one turn to get a boost
@ooobeniooo4690
@ooobeniooo4690 3 месяца назад
Is that a new ad cinematic series on the Jimothy Cool channel?
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 3 месяца назад
Would a priority attack be enough to stop the devilish Gardevoir? I am thinking maybe an attack focused Quick Attack or Extreme Speed user.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 3 месяца назад
Not many good priority users in Gen 3. Most common is Mach Punch Breloom but unfortunately Gardevoir resists fighting. Extreme Speed Arcanine would help, but I don't think it'd OHKO
@jazzercise300
@jazzercise300 2 месяца назад
Idk maybe they could put a limit on accuracy moves? A big draw of gen 3 OU is the ability to use usually banned things like arena trap and baton pass. Could make it to where it fails if used on their last mon. End of the day i wont be too upset if theyre banned. Wont change much tbh.
@bananatassium7009
@bananatassium7009 3 месяца назад
its kinda wild to me that accuracy lowering moves arent banned already if strategies combining them with trapping like that exist
@Neonaccelerator
@Neonaccelerator 3 месяца назад
Jim’s got ads we did it boys
@umedragon4449
@umedragon4449 3 месяца назад
Ah I miss my wrap Arbok. It was so broken back in the day , at least for play throughs.
@katenordin2526
@katenordin2526 3 месяца назад
SEA keeps dominating the nickname game. Previously with the Doolittle team, and now with Room on Fire.
@emblemadefuego20
@emblemadefuego20 3 месяца назад
Great strategy for porigon 2. I had thought about it after seeing your Gardevoir team. It can also be implemented with rival Dugtrio. My question is: By having the same ability, can Porigon switch?
@tecul1
@tecul1 3 месяца назад
against dugtrio, no against magneton, yes, bc porygon is not a steel type
@Cuculutu
@Cuculutu 3 месяца назад
Moves that lowers accuracy aren't the problem there, it's trapping abilities.
@homerman76
@homerman76 3 месяца назад
Yes and no, trapping abilities are also pretty necessary as a counter for specific mons, like skarmory. In fact, it's not the trapping ability that's causing the problem here, it's another pokemon copying that ability to lock Magneton into place, turning it's own power against it.
@lelandwhitehead56
@lelandwhitehead56 3 месяца назад
@@homerman76the gigabrain play would be to run sturdy and just simply switch out lmao
@smoovejuice9288
@smoovejuice9288 3 месяца назад
I watched for pokemon knowledge. I subbed for the Jim sponsor ads
@jorhey9346
@jorhey9346 2 месяца назад
Nah the ad was crazy gotta leave a like for that 😭
@blurbier
@blurbier 3 месяца назад
These strategies are insane.
@abraxasALP
@abraxasALP 3 месяца назад
I see SEA’s Stroking nicknames 👌🏻
@RunningTheBlitz
@RunningTheBlitz 3 месяца назад
Fantastic video
@ImmacHn
@ImmacHn 3 месяца назад
Ehhh, Porygon2 would still had gotten phished even if he had a VPN 😅
@rainpooper7088
@rainpooper7088 3 месяца назад
I used Electrode once in a Gen 1 match against my cousin's Amnesia boosted Mewtwo because I knew it was the only mon fast enough to get a Thunder Wave on that thing. Turn 1 para hax, should have seen his face when I set up Substitute and legit Thunderbolt'ed him with Electrode's miserable special stat until Mewtwo fainted. I had Explosion as my last move just in case I ran out of HP for Substitute, but got lucky enough to not even need it. Not exactly viable for tournaments or anything, but my cousin's face over my stupid Electrode running circles around his boosted Mewtwo that by all means should have swept my whole team was priceless.
@kevintian7151
@kevintian7151 3 месяца назад
I don’t understand how Light Screen was relevant in the Electrode clip. SEA’s Salamence wasn’t ever attacked using a special attack?
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 3 месяца назад
From SEA's perspective there were 2 unrevealed Pokemon in the back. Either of these 2 Pokemon could've had Ice Beam to stop a Salamence sweep, the Light Screen maximized the chance of Salamence successfully sweeping The final Pokemon was still unrevealed because the opponent forfeited, that could've easily been a Pokemon with Ice Beam that chose not to come in since it can't KO anymore
@alexmayday007
@alexmayday007 3 месяца назад
This ad is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen
@Double303
@Double303 3 месяца назад
Never did I expect to hear someone say Gardevoir is "morally bankrupt".
@Master55K
@Master55K 3 месяца назад
Quasimodo predicted all of this
@MannnisEi
@MannnisEi 3 месяца назад
Guys help me out here I'm kinda on the fence, is this insane?
@armorelarmadura7807
@armorelarmadura7807 3 месяца назад
The Magneton hatersquad is insanely funny
@yuumijungle548
@yuumijungle548 3 месяца назад
7:00 okay cool, but light screen did literally nothing there xD
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 3 месяца назад
It increased the chances of Salamence sweeping, 2 Pokemon were still unrevealed
@aryanbarik3192
@aryanbarik3192 3 месяца назад
Follow up question,@@jimothycool, what happened on turn 22? Did ttar not attack? I can tell it didn't go for a ddance or switch out
@tecul1
@tecul1 3 месяца назад
⁠after electrode exploded, the turn ended, that's how that works
@Phantanatomy
@Phantanatomy 3 месяца назад
Plot twist: magneton was the one who originally sent that phishing scam, Porygon2 was just getting its revenge
@canaldecasta
@canaldecasta 3 месяца назад
Gen 3 my beloved
@ThatGuyThai
@ThatGuyThai 3 месяца назад
Electrode kills aero with magnet, just saying.
@stinkypitz0005
@stinkypitz0005 2 месяца назад
I feel like porygon evolving into Z and 2 via phising and VPN is more appropriate.
@Mikabestww
@Mikabestww 3 месяца назад
This is the best introduction of a vpn ad ive ever seen
@rayanderson822
@rayanderson822 3 месяца назад
I can’t believe Gen 3 OU still allows accuracy dropping moves. Isn’t the busted evasion what made Cacturne illegal? And yeah, it makes certain Pokémon worse to take their options, but still, anything that introduces more luck into competitive seems dumb
@MazterP28
@MazterP28 3 месяца назад
Flash porygon was in gen 1 Also; along with flash drowzee and Hypno. I guess flash has some use after all
@StirFryTuna
@StirFryTuna 3 месяца назад
Porygon2 got hit by a phisming scam after what he did to Magneton. Don't be next guys.
@Mrtyjr
@Mrtyjr 3 месяца назад
If you were to ban accuracy lowering moves because of those very few specific scenarios were the opponent is doomed, you could also start banning offensive stat reducing moves as they support the same strategy. Basically, a ban goes too far. You COULD ban the trick instead but not ban those moves!
@tecul1
@tecul1 3 месяца назад
it would be preferable but smogon doesn't do these things unfortunately
@Qwertyness-oh3ov
@Qwertyness-oh3ov 2 месяца назад
Omg I need the last team so badly and troll some trappers lmao
@zjmullan
@zjmullan Месяц назад
first a probopass manscaped ad and now a porygon2 nordvpn ad lmao
@somebodyrandomly
@somebodyrandomly 3 месяца назад
This is insane
@Marcothy_
@Marcothy_ 3 месяца назад
I faced someone using the Dugtrio sand attack and Gardevoir team. I still beat them because they didn’t realize my Heracross outsped Gard and I instantly killed it with megahorn and then cleaned up the rest of his team. It was so annoying though because the guy dragged out the game so much
@pauloing1pauloing167
@pauloing1pauloing167 3 месяца назад
02:25 click here to start the video.
@yuvalwh
@yuvalwh 3 месяца назад
Nah but the gardevoir trap is insane
@Peoxxk
@Peoxxk 3 месяца назад
What the hell was that porygon2 set LMAO
@reverie9358
@reverie9358 3 месяца назад
That shit could only have happened to marcop, bro is the unluckiest player of all time 💀
@dopewizrd
@dopewizrd 3 месяца назад
thoughts and prayers for porygon 2
@jigga4343
@jigga4343 2 месяца назад
Sand Attack Dugtrio Flash Porygon 2 just fookin disrespectful
@athenacapablanca3118
@athenacapablanca3118 3 месяца назад
I am literally never running magneton again I think
@TheRealCakekey
@TheRealCakekey 3 месяца назад
I Gen 3 OU, it's not uncommon to see a Tyranitar or perhaps a Zapdos
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