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@dr.strange1300
@dr.strange1300 Месяц назад
Personally I've been enjoying literally everything about this game from the minute I installed it, so seeing changes that make it even better makes me happy. I can't wait to see where the game is when 2.0 comes out! Imagine what we'll have then!
@FlyingPancake0390
@FlyingPancake0390 Месяц назад
This type of update so early on is very promising for the future of the game.
@RailGun256
@RailGun256 Месяц назад
Man, if they do increase difficulty i really hope its a separate mode selection and doesnt increase difficulty across the board. Personally i like the TV section though having some QoL will be nice.
@katakikun8655
@katakikun8655 Месяц назад
I dont know about u but ı love tv commisions. I think it is not that boring or game killer. . Yeah u may be dont like tvs but ı think people is overreacting (sorry for english )
@kun6497
@kun6497 Месяц назад
They sure have the ability to make it engaging.
@Hhhh22222-w
@Hhhh22222-w Месяц назад
TV is bad, you probably never did the Timothy bear commission, that took me 30 mins and several retries to get all 3 coins ball things, it especially sucks on mobile where some stages the path finding is bad or not working at all so you have to keep tapping on each tile and the occasional bugs like the camera not moving or sometimes the character will not move and just get stuck. The constant looping and flashing of the background or when you move can cause headaches for some players too. In general the puzzles themselves don't need to be in the TV format and it breaks the story telling immersion, anything like how Persona did it or how Pokémon does the navigating on a flat isometric plain, would've been better and I am someone who loves puzzles.
@-Asp3ct-
@-Asp3ct- Месяц назад
​​@@Hhhh22222-wi did, plus lvl 99 endless abyss and i love tv gameplay, especially in hollow zero. I prefer this to manual running like in star rails sim universe
@katakikun8655
@katakikun8655 Месяц назад
@@Hhhh22222-w ı have done every quest in the game and ı dont think quests are boring or basic. Yeah sometimes it takes a lot of time for a quests but ı didnt get bored even in the long quests. And yeah ı know that it depends on the person but i think it is not that horrible to play . I didnt play persona games or pokemon games so ı cant talk about that but yeah ı heard persona games are masterpieces and maybe they are better than zzz in gameplay mechanics but just like ı said tv mechanic in zzz is fun to play for me. I realized that ı started most of the sentences with yeah or but. Sorry for english this is all ı know
@lukebruton4110
@lukebruton4110 Месяц назад
I can’t stand the tv system it’s so boring and completely ruins the story experience for me
@DaIncredibleEgg
@DaIncredibleEgg Месяц назад
Personally, I don't mind the TV exploration because it lets them do a lot more different kinds of gameplay cheaply - they've done stages that mimic Bomberman, Missile Command, and more without having to make full 3d environments, models, or animations, AND zipping around in the TVs is definitely faster than running around in a 3D environment too. If that kind of presentation lets them keep making quick levels with unique gameplay I'm all for it.
@JacobWatts-m1k
@JacobWatts-m1k Месяц назад
If you want to have low expectations than sure. Hoyoverse makes millions off these games so the least they can do is make gameplay that, as you say, isn't done cheaply. Also copying gameplay mechanics from say "bomberman" isn't very unique now is it?
@FantasyAeon
@FantasyAeon Месяц назад
Do you want super hardcore difficulty? Okay then...... HP boss: 500m Damage: VERY HIGH Agressive: FAST COMBAT + can pairy your attack + dodge Ex Skill: blackhole reduce HP+10% /sec (cant reduce hp+1) & summon 3 creature (HP 5m each + dont do so much damage) Ultimate skill: DOOM (big area + OTKO your unit immediately + if you have a shield then reduce 1/2 HP instead OTKO)
@NARUTOnemesis
@NARUTOnemesis Месяц назад
Tip for skipping time now. Do hard mode clears in story. You get polychrome and some mats and moves time forward.
@walipp
@walipp Месяц назад
bonus points for doing it now, the difficulty of those increases with your proxy level, so you don't have the factor that you could do it later with less effort, you have in the endgame modes
@NARUTOnemesis
@NARUTOnemesis Месяц назад
@@walipp Also, there is a repeatable side mission and takes a few seconds to complete. You have to break a bunch of boxes. Wish I could credit them but I saw someone say just go in there with Billy Kid and do his dash attack spin and clear easy. You get no rewards but a least you speed up time
@balzaque1
@balzaque1 Месяц назад
IMO I really think ppl hate too much on the TV gameplay, before the game launched I was worried about it but after playing everything that is available for my lvl 43 I really think they did a really good job with this content and there is a very big variety of gameplay in this mode, if the game was just combat after combat without anything in between I don't even think I would be able to play for as long as I usually play this game, IMO I just want more content to do now that I finished mostly everything but that is also normal.
@reidenar
@reidenar Месяц назад
They still are not implementing the ability to change music in the store? Honkai has it since day 1 and I'm sick of that tune already...
@BeetleSkyGames
@BeetleSkyGames Месяц назад
I’ve been hooked on the game since launch and I’m excited for what we’re getting in the future. I love almost everything about the game.
@nevista2328
@nevista2328 Месяц назад
Man i can't wait to run around in lumina square while using ellen
@Hhhh22222-w
@Hhhh22222-w Месяц назад
Finally
@bloodmay
@bloodmay Месяц назад
For the time being, if you want to skip time of the day without stamina and super fast, replay "Chapter 2 Interlude > Combat > [Combat] Testing With Your Life Actually on the Line" mission. Use Billy's dash attack (even if he's lv1), and you can knock it out in 6-10s (just destroy 80 boxes, and rush to talk to the npc). As for the reasons people quit games 13:42 - all are valid. Games are entertainment products, and companies are not entitled to players' time or engagement. Players are not content creators either, there is no reason for a regular player to force themselves to stick with the game if they don't enjoy it. And if a very minor thing makes them not enjoy it, they are justified to drop the game and play something that's fun to them instead. Players have no obligation to "give the game a chance". Games are not family members that fucked up a bit. They are products to be enjoyed in spare time. And even though I do play ZZZ (and I do plan to continue), I fully consider the attitude "devote 10-15-20 hours of your life, to get to the point in the game that gets fun" to be bullshit. A player can decide how much time they allocate to test out the game, even if it's like 30 min. If by that time the game is not fun for them, then it's shit design, and I don't fault anyone for quitting for whatever reason. There are tens of thousands of games out there, the competition is high, so the players have the luxury to be nit-picky. If the devs want players to play their game, it's on them to make it better, not on players to suffer through stuff they don't like in current iteration.
@youdontneedit9114
@youdontneedit9114 Месяц назад
I'd say the core of the take is people are mixing the cause with the excuse all the time. Likes or dislikes are complex feelings, but people tend to justify their integral reasons by finding a plausible excuse. And often the chosen excuse has little to do with the root issue.
@johny31121979
@johny31121979 Месяц назад
they had a test phase! They got the feedback and didn´t change it for the better before release. So it´s on them. They deserve it
@venjaminffxi
@venjaminffxi Месяц назад
the only 2 things "worth" imo First: Manual Chain Attack which probably will mess up a lot of players if they select this option because at this point most of the players including myself are used to the current mode which is not that bad at all and Second: Preset Lineup which should have been here since launch , all other games have preset line up , the other things mentioned wont affect player experience that much as you can actually get the same result : control time is very easy , click the speed button when interrupted is just one click , inter-knot icon I dont even know what this is, all these adjustments makes me feel like the game was probably incomplete or not ready for launch but is good that they are adding these adjustments early on
@Daikki0776
@Daikki0776 Месяц назад
We need more rally comisions! Those are 🔥
@yvindvego9404
@yvindvego9404 Месяц назад
those were my favorite commissions to do.
@Yasviele
@Yasviele Месяц назад
I knew this game had room for improvement, that's why despite some initial awkwardness it was a matter of time but wow it is in fact a short time! I'm so glad we didn't have to wait literal years to feel like they're listening, the changes for chain attacks is nice, for example after Ellen uses her full Ex Attack, you can follow up with 2 very cool normal attacks, and Nicole has a unique secret animation with charged attack so sometimes I would be like ALRIGHT HERE IT COM- Hi! I'm Shoukaku! and that was such a buzzkill and even if I don't trigger the chain there was the 5 seconds of slow motion so you would just give in. Some people did NOT welcome these changes because they see most criticism as an "attack from haters" that should not be listened. As for character models, I suppose they're talking mostly about Soldier 11 and Anby? who happen to look like sister too, I don't think the other characters look bad at all but these two have a lot of simplicity.
@Red_Throat_Bird
@Red_Throat_Bird Месяц назад
The chain attack "problem" that make you lost time is a big problem for me. Cancel a mechanics/gameplay because of time lost or something is a huge balance problem. I dont understand why it will be the possibility to disable the chain attack. Is it not better to just have the possibility to just do the chain attack of your support and quick assist on your main dps for buff and quick assist bonus (many characters kit put a resource bonus on the quick attack) ? I dont understand the "manual chain attack", what that means is you will be allow to do a chain attack of the on field character ? If its the case its problematic, tank chain attack is not interesting, only attacker and especially support are interesting ... I need to test it in game. If you have a problem to advance time for affinity character missions, its simple in fact, when you get the "mission" in the schedule, just put on the quarter of the day where you are, and you can do it with the 3 and do your daily instantly. Maybe you need to reload the map and it works. Majority of ppl nothing in game design, so telling what devs should do is completely off, they just do their shopping list and throw it on social media and crying like children that haven't get what they wanted, without any constructive criticism. Most of the time ppl said they want a solo game and never understand that gacha model cant allow that because its hugely restrictive on the game design, and tell that no gacha model are not the problem and in fact yes, its the problem for all the "wrong" things, conception failure, etc ... Dont let you abuse by the storytelling and "world exploration" that looks like Persona, the progression, activities and difficulty balance isn't there. Perfect games doenst exist and even more in the gacha genre. All depend of your expectations.
@SplittedCorn
@SplittedCorn Месяц назад
DEVS LISTENED!!!!!!
@kun6497
@kun6497 Месяц назад
Some people quit the game because the animation being too good..? come on
@loctran3946
@loctran3946 Месяц назад
here some trick i do to change time go to chapter2 interclude do the mission say like your life on the line where u clear all the boxes, and u use billy to clear those boxes within 14-20 sec
@RedAntisocial
@RedAntisocial Месяц назад
Thank you for saving me from going to the site formerly known as twitter.
@baizhu
@baizhu Месяц назад
the biggest quality of life - i don’t have to use those ugly profile icons anymore. i can finally put my wife (nicole) there
@GatsuRage
@GatsuRage Месяц назад
how is not a thing being able to turn off auto target yet... on mobile I get why is there but for us PC users is BY FAR the worst thing in the game so many instances where I wanted to finish off 1 low health enemy and the stupid auto target system would target me the enemy with full health just cos the camera was aiming that guy instead cos of the camera automatic movement. This is the ONE and ONLY QOL I want! LET ME TURN OFF AUTO TARGETING MODE!!!!! (ah boy I've writing this in every feedback and will keep doing so)
@xaius4348
@xaius4348 Месяц назад
So far, the only part of the game I haven't liked is the "Rost and North" detective series of missions. They started out kinda fun, but I figured out the mystery really early, and it was so infuriatingly tedious to "show my work" of how I got the answer from the clues. The last mission alone had something like 15 minutes of pure animations/cutscenes/dialogue. I was so braindead by the end.
@snake-eyes211
@snake-eyes211 Месяц назад
Thanks for the info 🙏
@milmil5350
@milmil5350 Месяц назад
😣 One of my biggest gripes with the game is that most of the characters don't look appealing (to me). And for the few that do, they look like 4-star characters from another gacha game. I was gonna say standard banner, but most standard banner characters in other gachas look more impressive design-wise imo. 😣 They also don't visually impress enough with their combat animations and particle effects (vfx) *compared to other games* like Aether Gazer, PGR, & WuWa. 💡 I want to see the devs try harder. As it is now, ZZZ seemed like a half-hearted cash grab that only counted on marketing to sell the game. This dev update gives me hope that ZZZ is more than that (to the ZZZ dev team at least). 😮‍💨 I still feel like the severe lack of male characters and the extreme length of time we have to wait for a male 5 star is a warning sign to female players & husbando enjoyers to quit the game and play something else. 😐 So, for that reason, I don't know how long I'll keep playing. Rather than bait female players, it'd be better if they just made it all waifu like Honkai Impact 3rd. Then I wouldn't have to get my hopes up, feel disappointed, and waste my time. 😅 🙏 Still hope the game turns out well for the people who do plan on staying with it for years to come. 😊
@penda1925
@penda1925 Месяц назад
tv would be okay if its like only during story or very specifics off quest
@codesterz3399
@codesterz3399 Месяц назад
No keep it out of story. Story mode TVs should be replaced with Rally style missions. Keep them in Roguelite mode and as OPTIONAL quests in exploration mode.
@user-mo9dn2eq9j
@user-mo9dn2eq9j Месяц назад
Hallow zero TV is pain to play take too much time
@lucustwyatt1960
@lucustwyatt1960 Месяц назад
hoyo tried alot of funny stuff in this game, but some of them are ridiculous like time and tv lolz
@yvindvego9404
@yvindvego9404 Месяц назад
ZZZ could
@Tye069ER
@Tye069ER Месяц назад
When they say improve the models, they mean nerf them 😂 Watch em change ellans 2d art
@sdkkauwjsssad
@sdkkauwjsssad Месяц назад
>improving agents models funny way to spell censorship
@NewYorkDDS
@NewYorkDDS Месяц назад
Please don't read these things word for word. Read it. Summarize it. Then make your video.
@milmil5350
@milmil5350 Месяц назад
Disagree. I prefer it the way he did it. I wanna see what the devs said (without going to the post to read it myself) and then hear his response to it. I'm here for the devs' words. Summaries leaves room for error and misinterpretation; which can lead to misinformation.
@PixelMin
@PixelMin Месяц назад
Nah i want it word for word bar for bar
@dale6450
@dale6450 Месяц назад
First?
@lokeras92
@lokeras92 Месяц назад
Yes. First
@kae9831
@kae9831 Месяц назад
congratulations
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