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Insane Water Waste -- Reverse Osmosis (RO) Truth 

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LINX Systems on Sale Now! Go to www.LINXDrinkingWater.com to buy direct. See our NEWEST Video here: • Super High Tech, Super... . The LINX Technology provides nitrate, nitrite, and TDS Reduction similar to RO technology and like Filter technology, it is better for water conservation. Typical Reverse Osmosis nitrate reduction is 60-80% whereas the LINX 160 reduces to non-detect levels and the LINX 140 does 91% reduction. As you can see from the animation, LINX technology offers superior water conservation over wasteful RO technology. Interested in becoming a LINX Dealer? Go to www.linxwater.c...

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@dannielpreto
@dannielpreto 10 лет назад
Most RO systems waste about 4 for every one gallon. Some as little as 1.5 to every gallon. This is an exaggeration that compares their system to the systems that waste the most water.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
We appreciate your comment but we promise you that we are a real, brick and mortar company with products, warranties, technology and most importantly - integrity. We typically sell thru authorized dealers so that you are able to get the personal and outstanding service you deserve. Go to our website Dealer Page to find your local dealer. If there is no local dealer in your area, please fill out the contact form online and Tracey will contact you directly and answer any questions you may have.
@pampoovey2800
@pampoovey2800 10 лет назад
I went to your website and was looking at this system. I was interested until I saw the "REQUEST A QUOTE". I'm sorry but you know how much the system sells for. I shouldn't need to request ANYTHING. I don't need to talk to a sales person I don't need to hear your infomercial "if you order in the next 15 min we're running a special" CRAP. All I want is an honest price. If it's XXX.XX and I'll need XXXXXXX on top of that, all you have to do is say so. Its a solid price. Your hardware isn't gold and based on a fluctuating market. Yes it looks like a good system but if you can't even tell me how much it is then it's not worth looking at buying.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 10 лет назад
We typically sell through authorized dealers so that the systems are installed and optimized properly. Dealers set their own pricing so (even though they are similar) prices may vary from dealer to dealer. Go to our website Dealer Page to find your local dealer. If there is no local dealer in your area, please call us or fill out the contact form online and we will contact you, and answer any questions you may have directly and promptly - without an "act now" sales pitch. We hope that helps and we invite you to contact us.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Good news!! The systems are NOW available online! They are on sale - go to www.LinxDrinkingWater.com to see prices and purchase info.
@tfinvold
@tfinvold 6 лет назад
I bought my RO system, filters & everything for $105 on ebay. Got a 2 year supply of filters for $100 and noticed a $1-$2 dollar month water bill increase and you can pipe the waste water to a washing machine, a garden, lawn or to whatever. My total annual cost of maintaining the RO system is around $75 a year including water usage. There's no way even in an expensive water area your cost would be beyond $150 a year and spent only around $100 to set it up. There's no way in hell this LINX system can beat that or even come close to that. If they want to compete with RO systems they have to be priced more reasonable and not use hundreds of watts of electricity (which using electricity is $$$ waste as well)
@RobThePlumber
@RobThePlumber 9 лет назад
I do not see it as wasting water. Reverse osmosis removes all of the crap you do not want to drink in the first place.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 9 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. Check out our video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K8wrnI2JN-M.html It will show you - in real time - how an RO Wastes water.
@SONGBIRDFLARE
@SONGBIRDFLARE 9 лет назад
Rob The Plumber RO removes all beneficial minerals too (calcium and magnesium), and makes water acidic. RO was made to clean REAL SALT water.
@SONGBIRDFLARE
@SONGBIRDFLARE 9 лет назад
Bounty B. Wolf I think they want to say that you will pay for your water much more than you will have "wasting water"..... for example you pay for 3 gallons but will get 1 gallon.... waste of money
@mr.pocket575
@mr.pocket575 9 лет назад
Rob The Plumber I'm with you on this one. The whole point of a filter like this is to get rid of the nasty water and drink the good stuff. I guess waste is a perspective term.
@tfinvold
@tfinvold 6 лет назад
If you read my comment and see how I crunched these numbers you'll see why this LINX system is complete waste of money (and electricity) If you use an auto shut off valve (when the pressure reaches a certain PSI the system shuts off) then you eliminate constant water running. I measured what I get out of a full RO tank (about 2.9 gallons) and put the RO waste hose into a large plastic container (probably around 20 gallons) and it appeared there was approximately 6 gallons of water for the 2.9 gallons of drinkable RO water. What I will say is my home has relatively low water pressure not ridiculously low but not really high like some places so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it. Plus my water bill was always around $30 a month and didn't see but maybe 1 or 2 dollar a month water bill increase since it went from about $28 to $30 using the crap out of the RO system to cook, drink etc.. So with that logic I've seen a $24 a year increase in my water bill and bought a 2 year supply of RO filters & membranes for around $100 so I use around $50 a year in filters and so if the water bill increase for the whole year is $24 the $24+$50=$74 is about the approximate cost of maintenance for using my RO system. I seriously doubt this LINX system could beat that in cost. When I used to buy gallons of water refilled at the local water machine I'd spend about $200 a year just filling reusable water jugs... lol. Watering a lawn is a far bigger deal as far as water waste IMO... I mean think about it you're spraying water over a species of grass that is usually not native to your region to make it look ridiculously green. As far as what to do with the RO waste water, the truth is if you own a home drill a hole in the wall behind the sink and run the waste line outside and use it to fill a giant 200 gallon rainwater tank (or whatever size a 55 gallon drum will do) which you can then pipe in the RO rejection waste water to the outdoor tank to then water the plants/garden/grass. Some people get nifty and hook up a tank to their washing machine so that the water doesn't really go to waste. So the LINX system uses around 250 watts per gallon. That's 250 watts produced probably burning coal from a power plant so that's not helping the environment... If your electric bills are an average of $0.11 a kwh its around $0.03 per gallon. If you use 4 gallons a day its around 11 cents a day x 30 days in a month its about $3.30 dollars a month. If you have a 2:1 RO system it's going to be around $75 a year give or take the cost of water in your area. Plus the fact that you can go online buy a 2 years supply of RO filters for $100 ($50 dollars a year in RO filters and membranes per year) you can just buy a a ready to set up RO kit on ebay for $105 and for me I had observed a $1-2 a month water bill increase using an RO system has cost me around $75 a year in routine maintenance for the 2:1 RO system. There is just no way LINX can justify charging $600+ for a water filter unit and $200 for filters which need to be changed about twice a year unless you virtually never use the system. Between the $400 in filters annually and about $40 a year in electricity and the $10 for actual water usage you are spending about $450 a year to maintain this LINX system which more than the water usage plus the cost of the entire RO system and 2 years supply of RO filters... I mean really what a joke. When you crunch the numbers you realize how much of a scam this whole thing is. I mean seriously I could buy water from a water machine for 50 cents a gallon and based on my family's usage it's around $200 a year to buy water at the store or I can pay $75 a year to run my RO system and waste a few gallons or put in my washing machine/garden via a storage tank. What an idiotic sales pitch.
@davesnothereman5150
@davesnothereman5150 2 года назад
Show a live demonstration, videos are nice, but not a real benchmark.
@hoppyandhisholidayhelpers1714
@hoppyandhisholidayhelpers1714 2 года назад
animated graphics can prove just about anything, especially when trying to sell a product.
@dboyd1174
@dboyd1174 8 лет назад
I agree w/Arne!! I am a licensed professional engineer and I object to your claims. I live in a highly mineralized, arsenic content area & I have made precise measurements for my R.O. system. Arne is correct in that approximately three gallons or less is required to produce one gallon of R.O. water. The extra two gallon loss in my system is simply routed to my vegetable garden beds so it is not wasted. Please verify your claims w/some evidence. Thank you.
@johnferguson7235
@johnferguson7235 8 лет назад
+D Boyd Ditto, I agree. I am also an engineer. We use the discharge water to feed a "grey water" system for our landscaping. My Vertex 4 stage R.O. unit uses about three gallons for every gallon of pure water produced. Considering that our family uses over 150 gallons a day, with irrigation included, it's a trivial amount of water. It's only about 3-4 gallons per day.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 8 лет назад
+D Boyd Thank you for your comment. This video is based upon the research study conducted by Van Newenhizen and Associates, Inc.. The results of which you can download here: www.linxwater.com/pdfs/water-savings.pdf.
@johnferguson7235
@johnferguson7235 8 лет назад
LINX Water John Van Newenhizen graduated from Lake Forest College which is a small liberal arts college. As far as I can determine he doesn't have a degree in science or engineering. He was employed by Culligan International from 1977-2009. I can find little about his company Van Newenhizen and Associates Inc. other than there are 10-20 employees. I don't see that Mr. Van Newenhizen has published any scientific peer reviewed papers or research studies.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 8 лет назад
+John Ferguson If you are using a permeate pump to increase the feedwater pressure, that could result in a doubling of efficiency and could yield 30% efficiency under ideal water temperature conditions
@alewis6451
@alewis6451 8 лет назад
the music is as loud as the informant which makes this annoying.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Agreed...our apologies.
@HellTriX
@HellTriX 10 лет назад
Has anyone actually sent before and after water for independent testing to see how much of the fluoride has been removed?
@GilgameshApproves
@GilgameshApproves 8 лет назад
+Trix Kemuel that`s the real question !
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
The systems are independently certified by Pace Labs - please scroll down to see all of the certifications including fluoride: linxwater.com/benefits/cleaner-healthier/ Also you can now buy these systems online and on sale at linxdrinkingwater.com/.
@acoustic4037
@acoustic4037 11 лет назад
I have RO and the information provided here does not hold true to my experience with my system. It appears that the "facts" in this video do not hold true as my experience shows. I'm wondering if this is wishful thinking. Even if it is partial truth, it surely is not telling the whole story. Honesty is the best policy.
@MichaelTaplin1st
@MichaelTaplin1st 8 лет назад
Whereas waste water from reverse osmosis can be recirculated once before permanently removing it from the loop. When out of the loop it can be used for yard cleaning lawn maintenance etc, So little would be actually wasted. The Lynx system does not say how much electricity it consumes or what total TDS can be over its cycle. In brief it is at face value an attractive proposition. However I would like some nitty gritty detail about its cycle figures before opting out of ro
@wjackstl
@wjackstl 8 лет назад
yes, well said! cost of production, and water spent in the process, compared to RO waste, i would suspect is equal
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
The system uses less electricity than a toaster. Pennies a day to operate. Please contact us at 866-611-8624 with ANY other technical questions you may have. We are happy to help. Also the systems are NOW available online! They are on sale - go to www.LinxDrinkingWater.com to see prices and purchase info.
@BenjaminKX500
@BenjaminKX500 7 лет назад
A toaster is a poor example, they use large amounts of electricity for short periods of time, but if you make a lot of toast they use a lot of juice.
@nebozemlya
@nebozemlya 8 лет назад
So best option, while using RO is to empty entire pressure tank by filling up all the contained or what ever needs you have at once. It is little extra labor, but worth it. That will leave tank empty and filling take from ~0 to 100. That will minimize water waste at max level.
@123johnchen
@123johnchen 10 лет назад
I bought an iSpring RO system from Amazon. The waste:clean ratio is about 2:1. My family of 4 consumes about 2-3 gallons of RO water a day, so 4-6 gallons would be wasted. That's way less than the toilets, in which a pee uses 1.5 - 2.5 gallons to flush. You get the idea.
@zernestro
@zernestro 10 лет назад
exactly. 4 pee per member = 25 - 40 gallons per day. Let's not even start about how much water is wasted during many many industrial processes, and how much water is wasted by producing plastic bottles...the list goes on and on.
@EviLNox8
@EviLNox8 9 лет назад
+CZY Homer So basically go pee behind your house, and use that RO system for better water and your water bill won't go up :p
@vondenballs
@vondenballs 8 лет назад
+EviLNox8 You can pee in the RO, it will filter it and transform it into good water. That's what they do in the space station.
@tfinvold
@tfinvold 6 лет назад
I have a very RO similar system that produces about that same amount of RO water waste probably around 5 or 6 gallons down the drain. It's basically trivial. LINX is a marketing pitch. They want to hook up to your electric system (waste $$$ in electricity, which most electricity is coal fired etc.) and then charge a fortune for the filters & system when I could maintain my RO system for 1/5 of that cost. It's all smoke and mirrors.
@betaseekingalpha1178
@betaseekingalpha1178 9 лет назад
I just installed an RO system at home that makes one gallon of RO water for every 2 gallons of influent water. I further eliminate water waste by collecting the drain water into a barrel for gardening. We recorded the test result and uploaded here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mYCgb1YcEzs.html
@mytube92369
@mytube92369 9 лет назад
Ro system it does waste an insane Amount of water,I thought Linx system is an exaggeration but they are telling the truth. I've done it myself trying to get all the water from the waste and couldn't keep up how fast 30 gallons of water got wasted just to get 3 gallons of clean water. The waste water is perfectly clean and u can use it for so many things around the house. I am very dissapointed about ro and can't believe the degree of ignorance creating this wasteful system. Imagine if millions have been sold how many fucking millions of gallon we are wasting,this ro system shouldn't be legal for home use considering that in so many countries they don't have water to drink period! The water bill came and I found out since I've bought the system I've doubled the amount of water Using 3000 gallons extra in just one month. I will try to do something to the system since the waste water is better than tap water, I will connect the waste to filter it again,will see how is that going to come out, it should be perfectly fine, if not I will look into different water systems including Linx .
@toddarhoten120173
@toddarhoten120173 9 лет назад
in the R.O. I have it wastes 2 gallons of water for every 1 gallon it purifies. This information is from 2010, so I understand. In choosing a purifier, I chose the R.O. for these reasons: I have no water use restrictions, The yearly cost of maintaining the R.O. is dang near $25.00., and I purchased the R.O. for $500.00. The system is estimated to last at least 10 years. So mainly it will cost me much less to have an R.O. than most other types of water purifiers.
@roberthart9886
@roberthart9886 3 года назад
This video is 11 years old. The info is way out of date. The rejection potential of tap water depends on water pressure. If the water pressure is low then RO will produce more waste water . This is easily compensated for by buying an RO with a pump
@Bambotb
@Bambotb 2 года назад
I just talked to a manufacturer for a water business and he said the best they can do is 20% water loss...which is not bad at all if you ask me...
@roberthart9886
@roberthart9886 2 года назад
@@Bambotb THAT WILL TAKE A SERIOUS PUMP AND MEMBRANES. NOT NEEDED UNLESS YOU ARE DOING A WHOLE HOUSE
@Bambotb
@Bambotb 2 года назад
@@roberthart9886 as i said it's for a water business.....i will sell RO water
@roberthart9886
@roberthart9886 2 года назад
@@Bambotb Pretty sure you can lease the machines. I have seen Self-Serve equipment in Whole Foods
@Bambotb
@Bambotb 2 года назад
@@roberthart9886 no i am not in America but at the same time i want to own my business...1st one in my country so..
@johnnyrizzo8057
@johnnyrizzo8057 7 лет назад
I can tell you this video is not correct. my RO does 4 gallons in 1.5 hrs. making 4 gallons waste 16 gallons of waste water.
@georgeswca
@georgeswca 4 года назад
Mine makes about the same product water per hour, but wastes 432 gallons per hour.
@ryanbrand3946
@ryanbrand3946 6 лет назад
So let's talk about how much water is waisted each time u flush a toilet. I will just go outside once a day and continue using my RO system, problem solved
@thomcollins3612
@thomcollins3612 8 лет назад
If your RODI system is using 13.5 gallons of water to make 1.5 gallons there is something seriously wrong with that system. My 3-gallon system waists less than 1 gallon. A bit of research will expose this scare tactic.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 8 лет назад
+Thom Collins Thank you for your comment. This video is based upon the research study conducted by Van Newenhizen and Associates, Inc.. The results of which you can download here: www.linxwater.com/pdfs/water-savings.pdf
@jasonc9791
@jasonc9791 5 лет назад
The most scary thing about this video is that more than 355,000 actually watched it! The point of an RO is to eliminate 95% of all of the TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) in the water. That is everything in our water that is not water...all the bad stuff. The amount of water wasted with an RO depends on the quality of the membrane. It is true that the RO systems you get at Home Depot or department stores do waste a lot of water. But, it is no where near what this video suggests. The worst I have ever seen is a 6:1 ratio. It wastes 6 gallons to make 1 gallon of good water. The problem is, that are the really cheap systems. If you buy a cheap RO, you are getting low quality. Makes sense, right? There are membranes (Pentair) that have 1:1 ratio's. Also, the only way you can affect the TDS level in the water is through a reverse osmosis system. Of course it's going to waste water. It is letting the good water through to the tank and eliminating the bad water to the sewer. It HAS to waste some water. Where would the bad stuff in the water go if it didn't? But, please don't think the numbers shown in this video are anywhere near what a good RO will waste. It simply isn't true. As far as this LINX system this video is trying to SELL you....it isn't doing anything to the TDS in the water. Ion exchange is the same technology as a water softener. It may remove the calcium and magnesium from the water, but it is doing nothing for the TDS. Total Dissolved Solids are "Dissolved Solids". Stuff that is so small that the only thing that will remove them is the semi-permeable membrane of an RO....making it ideal drinking water. This LINX system is doing nothing for the quality of your water. Like I said...the most scary thing about this video is that over 355,000 people actually watched it and may have actually believed what they heard. It's alarming what you can find on You Tube!
@stevehoang5289
@stevehoang5289 5 лет назад
Thank you for the very good information. I just bought a new RO system, top of the line of Home Master brand, it said the ratio of water waste is 1:1. Thanks again for good information.
@shubhamkumar-nw1ui
@shubhamkumar-nw1ui 5 лет назад
Do you think 1:1 ratio is very good ratio.For every glass you drink,you throw 1 glass water.This is insane .TDS might be a harmful thing,but can't we make a more efficient system of water treatment ? I have forever known that groundwater is pure from all impurities ,but nowadays every household uses RO.
@jasonc9791
@jasonc9791 5 лет назад
@@shubhamkumar-nw1ui A membrane with a 1:1 ratio is the best membrane manufactured in the world today. So, yes....that is VERY good! By definition, a reverse osmosis HAS to waste some water. Think about it. It is taking out the bad stuff in the water and leaving the good behind. How do make the water good without taking out the bad? For your information, the RO systems you will find at a Home Depot or Lowe's usually have 6:1 ratio's. That has been the complaint of RO systems in the past. They waste a lot of water. A membrane with a 1:1 ratio is excellent. Btw, "groundwater is pure from all impurities"? Not sure what you meant to say there, but groundwater is why you need an RO system. It takes out all of the bad stuff that groundwater has in it.
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 лет назад
Well, what if the problem isn’t the TDS, but the calcium and magnesium (which make the water “hard”)? I’d bet that’s the most common reason why people use RO, and as you mentioned, this does reduce calcium and magnesium in the water.
@incorectulpolitic
@incorectulpolitic 4 года назад
@@jasonc9791 are there countertop 1:1 ratio RO filters?
@ebarton1475
@ebarton1475 4 года назад
THIS IS BS
@TCDF22
@TCDF22 8 лет назад
Seems like a nice idea, but not even showing prices on your website smacks of bait and switch, one thing this industry is well known for. Is it 3 grand? Is it a few hundred? Is it the same price in every market? lol, probably not. Who knows, but if I give you all my info and set myself up for annoying follow up emails, sure then you will talk about it. Here we are 5 years after the video went up and still no easily found prices but still a lot of hyperbole about cost of ownership. Nah, pass.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Good news!! The systems are NOW available online! They are on sale - go to www.LinxDrinkingWater.com to see prices and purchase info.
@EcoNeato
@EcoNeato 3 года назад
music too loud
@zackrobinson8366
@zackrobinson8366 4 года назад
This video is unreliable and contains information that if false. If I would have just blindly believed this and would have gotten a zero for accuracy on my project.
@ignasanchezl
@ignasanchezl 5 лет назад
To anyone, the back pressure problem can be fixed with a permeate pump.
@tonygutierrez4627
@tonygutierrez4627 5 лет назад
How would that work? I have an R.O system and am looking into recycling somehow all waste water. I currently use 500 - 600 gallons of water a day. 5 days a week.
@evebrito3623
@evebrito3623 3 года назад
How does a permeate pump work?
@ranthony1944
@ranthony1944 5 лет назад
I've got a system that produces 1.5 gallons per minute and wastes the same. 4"x48" membrane @ 90 psi. Lot's of misinformation out there but these little under the sink systems are very inefficient.
@StoplossActivated_50
@StoplossActivated_50 6 лет назад
Forget to mention the flow RESTRICTOR on ro system to minimize waste water!
@mudslinger888
@mudslinger888 8 лет назад
LINX PLEASE what is the cost of this system, and why is it such a secret? after reading all the comments it definitely seems you are elusive or hiding something, which makes this dealer quite suspicious indeed. Please clear up all the questions once and for all and you will sell. I may be interested as a dealer but I need ALL the facts without wasting my time.. I support the horticultural industry and seek a good unit that greatly reduces ppms as low as RO does, at max efficiency. Can you supply this and how much even msrp for now helps.. ow I'm looking elsewhere, we are busy..
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 8 лет назад
+mudslinger888 LINX® systems are sold thru authorized dealers who set their own retail pricing. This allows them to factor in their cost of doing business - I am sure you understand that it is more expensive to do business in a major city than a rural community in the Midwest.
@caib714
@caib714 6 лет назад
$700 for the system and $400 for filter! YIKES!!!
@alext2963
@alext2963 7 лет назад
The R.O. works on pressure. It does not kick on every time you use a little water.
@tedwutang
@tedwutang 9 лет назад
I dont doubt your information as it is true. However it simply is one sided solution the way you address this matter. Another method of sales pitch for Linx. Very effective one too which brings the question are you for hire?:) I dont produce or focus on water treatment systems sales but water is one every company should considered even homes. RO systems nowadays comes with individual colored line make the waste water easy to be collected and reused for plants and other applications.
@ThePoolboy789
@ThePoolboy789 10 лет назад
how can it waste water... its all being contained not like its going anywhere...
@dylan-hart
@dylan-hart 10 лет назад
I agree, it's not like the water is being destroyed or something. It still exists. Down the drain isn't necessarily waste? Especially if the "wasted" water is full of fluoride and other stuff. If that's what it takes to get non-fluoridated water, count me in.
@dylan-hart
@dylan-hart 10 лет назад
eh, relative definition I suppose. If I was in control of my own tax dollars, I'd certainly consider it a waste. Regardless, LINX looks very interesting. I wish I could learn more about the tech and why it's taken so long to be developed!
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Dylan - please feel free to call us at 866-611-8624, M-F 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM (PT) to ask us any info you would like to know. Also the systems are NOW available online! They are on sale - go to www.LinxDrinkingWater.com to see prices and purchase info.
@thorsmj
@thorsmj 11 лет назад
this presentation is not fair enough even the posting of comment needs even an approval.. You forgot to mention that there's a way to eliminate the back pressure.. ^_^ then what kind of membrane you are using? A semi-permeable one that uses electricity? well that membrane must be an epic since it can recovery with the HIGHEST rate.. since you're not using a pump there's no other way to push the water through the membrane. what are u using? electrolysis?
@haydenman2
@haydenman2 11 лет назад
ROs are for systems where waste water is not a concern. ROs are good for salt water filtration where the waste water is put back in the ocean such as on boat , or ROs are good for a well where the waste water is put back in the well using a reclamation system that monitors TDS (total dissolved solids) to make sure TDS does not accumulate in the well, if your using them for home use you can store the waste water and refeed it back in to the supply or use it on your lawn , pool, etc.
@123johnchen
@123johnchen 11 лет назад
So far RO remains as the best and most cost effective filtration technology in market. With improved design, in most models from WATTS, iSpring, and Pur, the clean/waste water ratio ranges from 1:1 to 1:3.5. Your value of 1.5:13.5 is bit extreme. A new technology called Hollow Fiber, which uses millions of mini tubes, each has 0.1 - 0.2 micron in OD, is comparable to RO but not producing any waste water. It even can filter out bacteria and virus. Search for B002XISS2Y and B009AEJWZG in amazon.
@rimtech2015
@rimtech2015 12 лет назад
you are neglecting in your video to mention that with a complete RO system, specifically one that includes a permeate pump, the back pressure you mentioned in the video is almost entirely eliminated and prevents 80% of the waste water you are talking about. i'm just saying, you are not fairly representing the technology when comparing it to your product. you're talking about an incomplete system... why not ignore the waste water flow restricter and ASOV also while you're at it to bump ur numbers
@metal15051
@metal15051 11 лет назад
Ditto, I would like to add that RO systems can utilize multiple membranes and a booster pump to drive down waste water ratios even further, in addition to a permeate pump. Not to mention that if someone is really all that worried about water conservation, they would find alternate uses for their waste water i.e. washing clothes, watering plants/garden etc.
@LuigiAkAfido
@LuigiAkAfido 11 лет назад
in california, the city i reside in uses recycled water from our daily uses, filters it and back into the city. would it be wasteful to have an ro system in this scenario? possibly not. there are also desalination plants being constructed around coast lines to filter ocean water. the earth is 70% water so... would it still be wasteful to have an ro sytem?
@lokealvotaro3728
@lokealvotaro3728 11 лет назад
Is there a way to recycle the waste water back through the reverse osmosis process? I mean if it is set up to fill a tank with waste water and that so called waste water is simply water that failed to be purified for reasons regarding pressure buildup then surely there must be a way to moderate the system's functioning so that very little waste water is produced.
@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH
@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH 5 лет назад
Regular direct RO wastes 1:4. RO with aso and tank due to tank increasing pressure wastes 1:6. RO with permeat pump and tank wastes, (however permeat pump membrane is fragile) - 1:3. RO with booster pump, aso and tank wastes 1:4. direct RO with booster pump wastes 1:3. direct ro with booster pump and two membranes in serial connection wastes 1:1.5 increased waste with tank is because of back pressure, it the reason for waste. aso reduces tank capacity to 60%, leading to less waste, but also less tank capacity. permeate pump links pressure of waste water to clean water, increasing throughput against pressure of tank; however its membrane is fragile, and its useless if there is no backpressure (direct flow) booster/membrane pump increases total pressure, decreasing waste. booster/membrane pump can provide enough pressure for using several membranes in consequent/serial connection, halving the waste at double output. in worst case, RO can waste 1/20 - this is when tank is used, but no ASO, which is NEVER the case. in worst case, RO wastes 1/6, which can be fixed by adding permeate system; or replacing membrane with nano-membrane and removing the tank; or upgrading to booster pump. the linx system uses ion-exchangers which are easily clogged, 1-year best-before and do not even close have filtering power of RO. linx system is much worse than RO.
@evebrito3623
@evebrito3623 3 года назад
It sounds like useful information but I don’t understand it. Would a plumber be able to help me measure the water pressure and tell me which water pump I need to reduce waste water and then install it?
@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH
@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH 3 года назад
@@evebrito3623 you can measure the pressure yourself, by attaching the pressure gauge to any water outlet through ring adapters of right diameter. This is two things you need to buy. Or technician, if that is cheaper. Membrane needs at least 60 psi to work in simple 2prefilter+membrane+bypass(for flush) config. If pressure is less, you need system with dedicated membrane pump, preferably electronically controlled with autoflush. All systems - direct, tankLESS, maybe SideStream. I do not recommend tank, is source of headache.
@UntilImRichNgs
@UntilImRichNgs 11 лет назад
I just hope everyone here realizes that it is literally impossible to "waste" water. The only possible way to do that would be to shoot it into space or something similar to that. Now im not saying that its not gonna cost you more money at the faucet but just pointing that out.
@CarlosWever
@CarlosWever 13 лет назад
What happens when a NEUTRAL ..hormones needs to be filtrated, because it has no charge part in the molecule, if may passed freely to the 'filtrated' water...so I'm wondering how it is possible to compare A with B
@SgtKingUSMC
@SgtKingUSMC 11 лет назад
funny every RO I a have installed not to mention the 2 major home improvement stores systems don't come with the "pump" as mentioned... I have installed 2 in the last 3 weeks, they didnt have it either...
@SuperMicah44
@SuperMicah44 12 лет назад
***IMPORTANT*** Hi there. I was wondering if I could integrate this video into a reverse osmosis project I am doing for biology. I will site your website in my bibliography if you say it is ok. :) Thanks
@marinoint
@marinoint 8 лет назад
No published prices = Not everyone is getting the same price. So everyone will have to haggle the price with a used car sales man over the phone. What a great way to do business! Who needs transparent pricing, let's haggle!
@dayzsniper6551
@dayzsniper6551 6 лет назад
Lol but the ro water tastes good though
@alexisleah17
@alexisleah17 11 лет назад
Hello there I am considering buying one of the linx systems. What does the tds of the final water come out to be on the 5th and cleanest setting? Thanks for answering.
@peter7998
@peter7998 8 лет назад
I agree with what you saying but that's not the case if you have a permeable pump or booster pump connected to your R O system, I sell only those - environment matters!!
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 13 лет назад
@richrahnema The recovery rate of your RO determines the volume of wastewater. To produce 1 gallon of drinking water from 1,000 TDS feed water; a typical residential RO with a 10% recovery rate could waste 9 gallons of water w/ TDS levels of 1,100. The LINX would only waste 0.9 gallons at 1,000 TDS feed water, so naturally the TDS levels are concentrated at 1,850. This assumes both units operate at 95% reduction in TDS. Contact us if you have any other great questions & thank you!
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 14 лет назад
@Glen1040 Reclaiming your RO water to be used later is truly a smart & resourceful idea. Unfortunately, most consumers don’t do this & instead unknowingly waste 1000s of gallons of water. That's why we made the LINX, to provide the benefits of RO w/o the water waste. And our Water Cooler Model gives businesses a green alternative (see our RU-vid video: LINX Water Cooler). Thank you for the great water savings tip. I hope it inspires others to think creatively on how they can save water too.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 14 лет назад
@lrn2wlk4life Thank you - we really appreciate your comment. Sadly most ROs are in fact installed in this fashion. But you bring up an excellent point about water pressure effecting recovery rates. For more information on RO water recovery rates, or to see a controlled lab experiment we conducted without back pressure, please see our video here on our RU-vid Account entitled: Comparing a LINX® Drinking Water System to a Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water System
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, there is no way to eliminate the back pressure in the tank, however it can be mitigated with a permeate pump to partially overcome it. In testing done by John VanNewenhizen (a long time Culligan technical manager) adding the permeate pump doubled efficiency thus raising water efficiency to from 6-28%. Since no pressure in the RO tank equals no flow at the faucet, the back pressure can not be completely eliminated.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thanks for your question. A quick survey revealed that none of us at Pionetics are fish experts but we do know that different fish require different levels of TDS. One advantage of LINX tech is that you can adjust TDS by adjusting the dial to optimize the quality of water produced. You will need other water treatment IF you have other water quality requirements for your fish operation. Use our website Contact Form to tell us what TDS level you need and we can email you back specifics.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your question. It could be hooked up to the cold water faucet at the kitchen sink. But this configuration will run a lot of water thru the LINX® system that goes down the drain rather than being consumed for drinking or used for other direct potable uses like cooking. The result would be higher system maintenance costs as filters and the TDS cartridge (or RO membrane in the case of an RO system) would need to replaced more often.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your questions. The cost for replacement is determined by the local dealer but is about the same cost as calling a pro to change your RO filters & cartridges. LINX products employ a batch process and only regenerate after the system produces the preset volume of water depending on the LINX model & feedwater TDS setting (between 1-12 gallons of water). During regeneration, the LINX 160 uses 0.6 gallons (2.6 liters) of water, while the LINX 140 uses 1.2 gallons (5 liters) of water.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
According to the EPA, 97% of the water on earth is in the oceans, 3% is freshwater, of that 2.4% is permanently frozen in glaciers and polar ice caps. BUT only about 1/2 of 1% of the water on earth is groundwater. It does not matter what system your city uses or if they recycle their water. The question is; do you like your tap water or do you like RO water instead? If you use an RO and it with a LINX System, you could save 1000s of gallons of water/year and get the RO quality water you like.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your participation. LINX is not intended to get to 0 TDS nor is RO. Both aim to reduce TDS by 95% -- and with LINX you can use the dial to leave more TDS in the product water if that is your preference. Lower TDS reduction may also be better if the feedwater TDS is lower. LINX Systems are Drinking Water Systems and the TDS (to varying degrees) is what gives water its "taste."
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. It is possible to run ROs in series so that the reject stream is fed to a second RO but you will need to re-pressurize in order to get TDS reduction. Typical feedwater TDS in a home is 40-85 psi and the higher the better in terms of RO efficiency. The key to using RO in series in the home will involve collecting the reject and re-pressurizing back to a suitable level.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
It is possible to recycle the reject back to the RO but you need to design a completely different system configuration. If the reject is 10xs as much as the product water you need a tank to hold the reject until it goes back to the RO. Another option is “zero waste RO” that pushes the reject into the home's water lines so it can be used rather than discharged to the drain. If done at the kitchen sink this higher TDS reject water would degrade the hot water used in the dishwasher and at the sink.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. In fact we have heard of people who do exactly that. If you are going to have an RO that wastes water - then it would be a smart idea to use that water. Filling your pool would be one use for your run off water that is wasted. Of course, we think it would be best to use one of our LINX products to stop the waste altogether! And while you are conserving water, you can also dial your taste with LINX Systems!
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for the comment. Unless a consumer captures & reuses water wasted by an RO, it really is wasted. Many consumers never realize that an RO wastes water so it doesn't occur to them to capture it. Consider this, if you own an RO, the water your RO wastes is tap water that has been treated using your tax dollars, then purchased by you the homeowner, only to be flushed down the drain by your RO, without ever having been used. The water wasted is both an environmental & economic hardship.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
At best, a typical RO only recovers 14% of the water in typical household use - 86% WASTED. But this is at the ideal water temperature and pressure. If they drop to a very reasonable 50 degrees Fahrenheit and 50 psi the waste rate increases to 94%. Adding a permeate pump essentially doubles the recovery rate as shown on this chart. There are many types of ROs & water saving devices. We compared LINX to the majority of ROs owned - the less expensive ROs.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
There are many types of ROs and some do have a “permeate pump” that does increase recovery. Three most important variables in recovery RO are: 1. Feedwater pressure 2. Feedwater temperature 3. Osmotic pressure caused by the “build up” of TDS at the surface of the membrane The chart on our website (click Benefits and Less Waste) shows how RO recovery is affected by feedwater pressure and temperature.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
At best, a typical RO only recovers 14% of the water in typical household use - 86% WASTED. But this is at the ideal water temperature and pressure. If they drop to a very reasonable 50 degrees Fahrenheit and 50 psi the waste rate increases to 94% and at its worst wastes 97% of the water. LINX is essentially unaffected by feedwater pressure and temperature as shown in this chart.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
There are many types of ROs and some do have a “shut off” valve that opens to produce water to refill the tank after some percentage of the tank has been emptied - typically 20-40%. The problem here is that as the tank empties the pressure and flow to your faucet goes down. Of course the emptier the tank is, the higher the recovery initially, but it drops as back pressure from the tank increases as the tank fills up. But three most important variables in recovery RO are:
@scottr7683
@scottr7683 7 лет назад
The problems with the RO are fixed with a permeate pump, making these issues totally moot.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. Check out this study: John VanNewenhizen study: linxwater.com/pdfs/water-savings.pdf For product info and pricing go to: linxdrinkingwater.com
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your inquiry. LINX® systems reduce TDS up to 95% from that in the feedwater. So if the feedwater is 500 parts per million (ppm) they product water will be 25+/-. To read more about this - please see our FAQs on our website. Also, fill out the form there (short or long form) and we will be happy to contact you and answer any questions you may have.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. It is true, both reverse osmosis and LINX technology reduce contaminants similarly - about 95% reduction. Both systems also use sediment pre-filtration and carbon post-filtration so the product water is very similar. In addition, you can depend on both technologies to reduce fluoride by 90% or more.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
In response to your other concerns, LINX systems are not membrane filtration systems, rather they are ION EXCHANGE systems which utilize electricity instead of chemicals or salts. The water passes between the layers of the LINX ion exchange membrane (media) not through it, so feedwater pressure minus tank backpressure (net driving pressure) has NO effect on water efficiency.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
You are right that a booster pump does help. However, according the study, "A STUDY OF EFFICIENCY IN CURRENT POINT OF USE WATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS ABSTRACT" by Van Newenhizen and Associates, Inc., adding a booster pump reduces waste by 50% but does not eliminate waste entirely. Please fill out our Contact Form online and we will be happy to send you the abstract of the study.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
Thank you for your question. LINX technology is tested to reduce fluoride by 92%. A typical RO will remove 87-93% of fluoride. To see the detailed results of our testing as performed by Pace Laboratories, please see our website. We have a full report listed under System Performance. For a FULL list of contaminants removed, please see our Products FAQs Tab #16.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 11 лет назад
I think we left part of your question unanswered - our apologies. The list of complete contaminants the system removes can be found here on our website under HOMEPAGE/service-warranty/faqs/#faq16 The system can remove bacteria and viruses, especially when used with the UV filter. See the chart for details. HOMEPAGE/service-warranty/faqs/#faq16
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
Thank you for your question. No LINX is NOT a more efficient RO. It is an ion exchange process using no chemicals to de-ionize the water or to regenerate itself after reaching it capacity. LINX products do include the same pre-filters and post-filters as RO providing three layers of protection when it comes to filtering contaminants from your water.
@awc222
@awc222 12 лет назад
NOT TRUE. She says that an RO refills immediately. That is not true. An RO doesn't begin to refill until 60%-+ pressure is lost AND then begins to refill. A WOW water on water tank system like a Kinetico K5 only uses 1.2 gallons for every gallon because there is no air bladder. NEXT RO uses the same technology.
@MegaHustler
@MegaHustler 10 лет назад
If you put a permeate pump (powered by the waste water pressure) between the reverse osmosis unit and the storage tank, the additional water loss due to backpressure from the water tank is almost eliminated. If you also use a modern "Sidestream" RO membrane (you need a new membrane housing) with a booster pump, the clean water to waste water ratio can be as low as 1:1. Even better, you could get a 300 or 500 GPD unit and run it as a direct flow system, removing your water tank (and the need for the permeate pump).
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 10 лет назад
Thank you for your comment. Adding a permeate pump only doubles the efficiency according to a study done by John VanNewenhizen. See the results for "Enhanced Home RO with Permeate Pump" Link found on our website: www.linxwater.com/benefits/less-waste/ and here: www.linxwater.com/pdfs/Water-Savings.pdf
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
There are MANY variables that impact water recovery. For example with RO, as feed water pressure & temperature goes down, so does the water recovery rate. LINX systems are NOT affected by either of these variables. To read more - go to our website under Benefits\LessWaste.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
1. Feedwater pressure 2. Feedwater temperature 3. Osmotic pressure caused by the “build up” of TDS at the surface of the membrane The chart on our website linx.water.com then click on Benefits and Less Waste shows how RO recovery is affected by feedwater pressure and temperature.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 13 лет назад
@tritoneblues33 Thank you for your question. LINX technology is tested to reduce fluoride by 92%. A typical RO will remove 87-93% of fluoride. To see the detailed results of our testing as performed by Pace Laboratories, please see our website. We have a full report listed under System Performance.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 13 лет назад
@CarlosWever Thank you for your question. No water treatment process removes everything. For example, LINX cells remove ionic species as well as weak acids and bases (which are neutral), but not other neutral species. Our carbon filter removes many of these latter neutral species.
@awc222
@awc222 11 лет назад
RO product depends on TDS, temperature and line pressure as well as back pressure. Age, quality and size (sq inches) of the membrane can also affect production. Remove the back pressure and production greatly increases.
@tonysantos8668
@tonysantos8668 5 лет назад
Filter cost? Depending on the setup, and water quality, membranes can last anywhere between 1.5 - 2.5 years. A good GE depth filter is about $15, carbon filter $10 - $22 and DI resin $20. You are talking about MAYBE $60 - $80 / year, again depending on water quality, number of pple and/or pets in a household, the volume of water consumed, either for drinking and/or cooking (worst case). I spend very little. Don't be fooled, distillation does not produce the same quality of purification as a RODI. My yellow lab loves it, paws up.
@railcar79
@railcar79 11 лет назад
one other factor, the RODI gives you 0TDS, my use (marine aquarium) 0 tds is a big deal, the linx system is not capable of 0 tds
@lunes-1
@lunes-1 6 лет назад
Blame on the government that don't put pressure on water company's to produce decent water to be safe and healthy to drink or use on our aquariums.water companies only concentrated in make profit continue to produce rubbish water....
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
To see the detailed results of LINX system’s filtering performance as measured by Pace Laboratories, please see our website. We have a full reports listed under Benefits/Cleaner & Healthier.
@awc222
@awc222 11 лет назад
That is true with all air-charged tanks. Line pressure drops to 60% and then it starts to refill. WOW tank designs do refill immediately but there is no back pressure on the membrane.
@DerekP2050
@DerekP2050 11 лет назад
I doubt it...by the looks of things its mainly ok for ionized particles like iron, and such...but I might be wrong ;)
@hopeofthewicked
@hopeofthewicked 11 лет назад
was wondering if the system can simply be hooked up to cold water supply in kitchen without a separate spout..
@GamingJediPwns
@GamingJediPwns 11 лет назад
I think it's possible to use membranes in series going from waste water to water input which should save water.
@barrycuda68
@barrycuda68 10 лет назад
I have a private well with some contamination from sea water, will this system eliminate the salt taste in my water?
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 12 лет назад
Please fill out the contact form on our website with your information so someone can talk to you, We are happy to help. Thank you!
@richrahnema
@richrahnema 13 лет назад
what is the brine waste tds level at if the feed water is 1000? and compared to an RO system? thanks
@thorsmj
@thorsmj 11 лет назад
Correct me if I'm wrong.. i think there's a way to minimize the back pressure in the R.O.
@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH
@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH 5 лет назад
Swimming in RO waste water is like filling it with dirty tap water. Why would you do that?
@xxNBTROUBLExx
@xxNBTROUBLExx 9 лет назад
i was just about to buy a water filter system RO til i saw this video. we do our best to be sustainable and this is NOT it. need clean water but there has to be a better way.
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Good news!! The systems are NOW available online! They are on sale - go to www.LinxDrinkingWater.com to see prices and purchase info.
@Elitessj4gogeta
@Elitessj4gogeta 11 лет назад
I use a ro system for my fish tank, would linx be good for fresh water fish also?
@Robert-fz8lx
@Robert-fz8lx 6 лет назад
If back pressure is the problem of too much waste water, reduce the pressure to 30 psi or as recommended
@MarkGibsonrmarkgibson
@MarkGibsonrmarkgibson 10 лет назад
I installed a GE RO system in our home 6 months ago. We live in Monterey County and the average water bill here is $300-$400 per month. I had heard of the water waste and how I hear it going down the drain. I have since switched off the RO system I plan to bypass the RO component and just use the GE filtering system. If anyone has any instructions on how to do this, I would welcome it. Thanks
@tfinvold
@tfinvold 6 лет назад
There are a lot better more efficient RO systems that waste 2:1 or less and your bill would be substantially less. Hook up the waste water line from the RO system into some sort of storage tank and then connect the tank to the washing machine waste water problem solved.
@dylan-hart
@dylan-hart 10 лет назад
Does LINX remove fluoride?
@dylan-hart
@dylan-hart 10 лет назад
Interesting! Thanks!
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 7 лет назад
Yes - a 92% reduction! See the results as the systems are independently certified by Pace Labs - please scroll down to see all of the certifications including fluoride: linxwater.com/benefits/cleaner-healthier/ Also you can now buy these systems online and on sale at linxdrinkingwater.com/.
@dipro001
@dipro001 10 лет назад
i just saw a commercial from an Indian company called 'Kent' claiming their RO system wastes almost 0%! How does that work? Are they a technology similar to this Linx?
@Linxwater
@Linxwater 10 лет назад
I just reviewed the documentation on the site (search for Kent RO Drinking Water system) and the docs state it has a "...0% water wastage with storage tank for rejected water." Water IS wasted, but it is captured and reused elsewhere in the home. We applaud that practice and it is exemplary that the waste water is reused; but frankly speaking, it is a normal RO system that does produce reject water so the ad is somewhat misleading. Please private message us your email and I'll send you the PDFs of that brochure if you would like. Thank you for your question.
@johndoe7882
@johndoe7882 11 лет назад
i cant reply to anybodies comments here, nice, thanks google + in the meantime i was wondering if anybody knows a good portable R/O system
@GregJoshuaW
@GregJoshuaW 10 лет назад
Yea, Google+ absolutely completely fubared RU-vid.
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