Insanity: The Condition of a Digimon Player 

"Have I ever told you the definition of insanity? Insanity is, doing the exact same exorcises at the gym, and expecting a different digivolution."

Who needs sanity when you got digimon

Pokémon fans will never understand the joy of feeding, cleaning up and making sure their monster has adequate sleep like us Digimon fans.❤

The thing about training vs battling is, while you get less stats from fighting wild digimon, battling doesn’t spend time. Whereas training takes an hour out of your day each time. So it’s actually more cost effective to focus more on battling rather than training.

5:08 although this isn't necessarily false it is also not the whole answer. Since digimon was divided into 2 kinds of games in the past. The "world" series where you play an advanced tamagochi, and the "story" series which is a basic rpg with a level evolution system. Now it is mainly divided into 3, story games, world games and side projects (like survive). That being said, the grind in story games does not lose to the insanity required to complete a world game. So the title of this video is still accurate

The oddity of Digimon fans is using suffering as a flex

The true grind is the DS Digimon world, Dawn. / Dusk games where you have to farm elemental type exp to even get some evo lines

ngl I'm playing Cyber Sleuth and watching this video made me feel less insane cause it could be worse.

Digimon is the best Franchise! I also like Pokémon, but my bigger Love goes to Digimon ❤

best part is this is for one game. luke, every other digimon game is wildly different, but each contains more than enough insanity to keep us going!

The World games are born from Digimon's roots in Tamagotchi so it helps to know that going in if the person even knows what a Tamagotchi is. The Story games are the more linear RPG games. They still have the crazy digivolution trees and let you de-digivolve so you can really make the perfect team in terms of what Digimon and stats they have. It's what I would recommend to someone who's more into Pokémon and want's to try the series. The Cyber Sleuth games are pretty good but the only downside is that normal difficulty is pretty easy and hard mode just inflates numbers to the point you'll have to grind for a lot of the boss fights if you don't level up and/or have the right Digimon in your party.

Digimon games typically range pretty heavily from one thing to another but they're typically best described as pet simulator/rpg/fighter games revolving around humans entering the digital world and finding digimon digital monsters creatures created by the human worlds tech and imagination etc and they have to team up to stop an evil person or digimon or both drom destroying teh digital world the real world or both

It is theorized that in the animes, many digivolution could be a reflection of the soul of the tamer.

You missed the perfect Jamiroquai pun in Virtual Insanity

Beautiful you have my attention good sir I will try to reminisce on my days of Digimon as a kid and see what I remember and perhaps I will look at it again again in the future Future

I tried out Next Order some months ago and gotten through the second Machindramon. I just couldn’t get into it. I enjoyed Cyber Sleuth, but boy I wish it had elements from Next Order like exploring the digital world, collecting materials, and building that town up.

I prefer the digimon story ganes honestly

I never even thought of the fact that there is an actual Platinum Shitmon...

I am currently playing Next Order as well(it is my first Digimon game.) Even though it has a learning curve, I have really enjoyed it especially seeing the different evolutions. I also like the story and graphics. While I enjoyed playing Pokémon and really liked Legions Arceus, Digimon is a lot of fun. I am also a very casual gamer.

Cyber Sleuth, Hacker's Memory, then Survive. Having collected all the Digimon in Survive, I won't be doing the same for the Story games. And still looking forward to the next Digimon Story even though we don't have any info on it. My connections with Pokémon and Digimon is weird. At first it was both anime and only the Pokémon games. Now it's where I barely catch up on the Pokémon anime while playing both Pokémon and Digimon games.

Can confirm: we are. I'm still trying to get 100% on Cyber Sleuth/Hackers Memory.

love accentier playing after you just said we were insane xD

Pokemon = RPG Party Members Digimon = Tamagotchi

I like Digimon as a concept, and sometimes as a fatming game. But, something that always felt wrong for me was the partner Digimon. They are often nothing more than a decoration for the tamer, their will, opinions, thoughts and story being mostly pushed to the background, ignored or just make it so they are a mini version of their tamer, making their sentience feel like a huge waste. I wanted a friend, not another pet. Speaking of pets. It really rubs me the wrong way that I have to take responsibility for what are essentially babies, despite having enough sentience to set up a shop. Like, man, do I really need to keep carrying the diapers for my ultimate Digimon?! But, in general, I see digimon characters as often being shallow or not interesting aside from maybe looking cool since they are almost never the center of the story nor what they do or say has any weight... unless you are evil and want to destroy the world.

I've loved every digimon game from 2013 onwards (starting with Digimon World re:digitize decode), I'm personally not a fan of any of the previous games with the exception of world 1. I'd be cool if bandai remembered they used to release digimon games

I do like both series about the same but if i had to say Digimon is more consistent while Pokemon has Black and White and the Manga

also when it comes down to Digimon VS Pokemon Digimon fans are refering to the Anime Over the games, and Pokemon fans the games over the Anime at least in most Instences. me i am a fan of boths but i do lean more on the Digimon side despite having more Pokemon games.

I think you've misunderstood the point of next order and the OG world which are the only 2 digimon games like that. It's more like a roguelike game where each generation you're either building or spending resources in varying degrees based on the different stages, up to ultimate you want to be grinding stats as much as you possibly can through fighting as the gym is a complete waste of time once you hit rookie or sometimes in training if you're base stats are high enough. You can get a lot more in returns for stat gain from a single in game hour of fighting field mon then you can from spending that hour instantly for some meh gains. Thats also not counting the value of your bit and item drops instead of spending resources in the gym. You also gain a lot more tamer XP from running around fighting field mon and foraging. Also it's completely possible to hit mega stage on the first generation, it's definitely not gonna be the mega you want unless you're insanely lucky but it'll be a mega. Also for stat retention in next order I guess you don't know that the base stat gain is dependant on the highest ever instead of just the number upon death like dw1 was. Which means you don't need to constanly try and match or overtake you're previous ones tho if you're grinding out field mon then it shouldn't be too hard to do it naturally anyway. Also as someone who has sunk legitimately thousands of hours into monster taming games over my life I promise you pokemon fans are completely insane too, it's just a different .brand/flavour/color whatever label you wanna give it they're just as crazy as digimon fans, nexomon, fans, coromon fans, maybe not tem tem fans you gotta be really out there for that one.

That'a why digimon world is my favorite game of all time. It never feels boring. Gives me the sense of wonder and discovery every time I play it despite knowing the game fully. Evolution is cryptic enough to keep that wonder alive. It's well populated and each screen is memorable with cool ans unique pre rendered backgrounds. I come back to this game more often than any other single player game. I usually get bored or sleepy with rpg at some point despite being my favorite genre. Because no game has gotten as good as the original digimon world. Not even other digimon world games. I did enjoy the arena battles in Re digitize but I didn't care for the story or the exploration there. I'm about to start next order to see if that one really went back to square one but has you train 2 digimon instead. Here is to hoping it's at least close to the original but I have read otherwise.

Heh this viseo popped up for me and given my Digimon world 3 revisit after years of Pokemon and all the QoL features...Idk what is driving me to keep playing...Guess I too am insane in the Digi-Brain

5:52 "Combat will see you getting more or less paltry results." Your poor wife, she had to sit through such an in depth explanation from somebody who doesn't even actually know how next 0rder works.

I saw the title and I was like the card game, the video game, or the v-pets? But they're all kinda correct. Different kinds of crazy. Blessed lol.

I say this as a Digimon fan who has played enough of the games. It just seems Bamco only knows how to make 3 types of Digimon games. Bland grinding hell RPGs, "definition of insanity" farming RPGs, or budget diet smash clones. I really wish they would hand the IP to one of their various other studios who knows how to make a proper game and have them give new breath of life to the series. I just get so disappointed when the devs just pump something out and don't care enough about making it unique or even enjoyable.

Absolutely understand the insanity, since I've been hooked on Digimon World 2003 for way over a decade now, haha! Love both series and other monster taming series as well.

My partner digimon is dokunemon, then snimon, then skullscorpiomon, then pharaohmon as the normal mega and a green hercules kabuterimon as the warp digivolution mega

Thanks! This has convinced me to never ever play a Digimon game! I was thinking about trying some out, so you’ve really guided me off a dark path here.

If being obsessed with growlmon merchandise makes me insane then so be it

ok but can Eternamax Eternatus beat Zeedmilleniumon though?

This is Next Order. Now imagine World 1. Love both games but f*ck at least Next Order gives you QoL that lets you get specific Digimon you want. Even guides, till this day, World 1 is a pain to get the Digimon you want.

it took me a while but last year i figured out a consistent way to get your mega level digimon to max stats and stay alive and thats by grinding the dimensions aswell as fighting mamaeo for them sweet bits, once you’ve grinded to max bits let the digimon die, with the next generation you can feed them constantly with seraphimon’s food getting the high stats quickly and use something from renamon to keep them alive, had a wargrey and metalgaruru live to their 40’s till i stuffed them with devil chips to unlock new lines

I finished digimon world next order like last month after playing constantly for a month and kinda dont have much after that other than replaying it so now im on digimon survive 😁

Next Order and Cyber Slueth have always had me in a choke hold. My main experience with pokemon have been fan games, mainly. I enjoy both, but while one feels like a walk in the park with cute animals, the other feels like a dive into the human condition with a side of trauma and remembering where the bathrooms were when your Digimon decide NOW is the time to unload the 60 pounds of meat they just ate! I will eternally be traumatized by getting Numemons constantly in the original Digimon World game....

it was particularly difficult in the beginning not having a flow of resources.

40 seconds in and I'm already re-installing next order.

I mean to be honest the vpet's were based on tamagotchi's and the core gameplay of those things were the based for digimon world 1 and digimon world next order, so it kinda make sense the game is like that, you should try digimon story cyber slueth, hackers memory and digimon story red:digitize decode

I love both series too.

i've learned to embrace sukamon. i actually love him and nanimon

Maaaaaaan, this is bringing back so many memories of my time playing Cyber Sleuth. I love the game to death, but LORD did it have it's moments of insanity. "Huh? Why can't Rapidmon become MegaGargomon? ...What are ABI Points...? Oh, I have to devolve them back down? That'll be easy, I just gotta turn him back into a Gargomon and then immediately- HE'S LEVEL ONE AGAIN?!" And don't even get me started on the level grind... And even when I do have a team of level 99 Megas and Ultras, story bosses can sometimes just decide that your Free Trial for fun has expired, and suddenly get about 7 consecutive turns of spamming their strongest attack to utterly flatten your entire team... It was rough, until I learned that Jesmon's second ability, Weltgeist, can flat out negate all damage against him until his next turn, aaaaand then he pretty much became my "Ash's Pikachu", always on the frontline, always the MVP during those traumatic difficulty spikes, he still remains the leader of my team to this day. Plus, he looks freakin' awesome, so I don't mind that in the slightest lol

I also played this game last year man in the beginning stats grinding is pretty hard until you find a guide to avoid any time wasting

I've played Pokemon for the last 20 years. It's become absolute shit, there isn't a competition in my heart anymore it's just digimon and that weird mutant Pokemon became

The mic sometimes cuts the first sound of your words, try lowering the noise gate and that should fix it. Good video though!

Well I must put my two cents, Imagine playing Digimon World in the European Spanish version and try to beat the game as a kid when surprise surprise you cannot rechallenge Ogremon due an error in code during lauch... so the game was softblocked and you could never finish it unless you get a version of digimon from a different region like my neightbor did. When I saw file city with all those new digimon I havent seen ever and I learned as an adult why that happened it was infuriating, I kept the grind tho xD

I mean I'm insane but it's not cuz I play Digimon, it's because I play too many creature collectors. Pokemon is family friendly, Digimon is pg-13, Shin megami tensei is for adults, and Drakengard/NieR is for the criminally deranged. I will die on the hill that Drakengard is a creature collector. the weapons evolve, yes they are alive and feed off blood, and yes there is even something akin to a Pokedex that details the weight and history of each weapon.

Now thats some Good Digimon Review

you have to be a little crazy to love Digimon's ever changing nature

I know what u mean xD just yesterday I had to raise my digimon again vrom Rookie to ultimate level in around 2h (got wargrowlmon orange and blk weregarurumon)

Digimon has better stories, Pokemon has smoother gameplay. I love them both though.

Net Driver Hype

Ken legit played the game like Pokémon. Bro wanted to catch them all

The Digimon franchise as a whole does require a bit of effort to get into. Once you do, I find it well worth it.

Honestly the title fits with almost every Digimon game ever. The worst Digimon game has got to be the Online MMO, Digimon Masters Online. P2W, grindy, full of macros, corrupted staff. Holy shit The Digimon Story DS games are also pretty grindy and certain areas are just such hard mazes where you enounter a battle every 2nd step… Digimon World you already explained greatly with Digimon World Next Order. Digimon Super Rumble(Not Rumble Arena that one is actually more chill) it‘s also a bit the same as DMO in that its pretty p2w and grindy aswell. Along with very bad optimization. I honestly only ever enjoyed the Digimon Story games and Digimon Masters Online in its early days. The side project of Digimon like Rumble Arena were also nice to play but compared to Pokemon I‘d really have to choose the Pokemon over Digimon(Only for side project). Pokepark and the Pokemon Rumble series was just way nicer. Would be cool if Digimon ever did something in the lines of a Pokepark game. Though I could never imagine a Digimon game being chill. Edit: I forgot about Digimon Battle Online. Also p2w especially on global release.

One of my favorite RPGs is Digimon World 3, and I genuinely can't recommend it to anyone. I've essentially grown to love it even if it's "bad".

Hi digimon fan here Yeah can confirm none of are right but at least our games run these days lol

Digimon World can be best described as Tamagotchi for masochists

Cyber Sleuth is still one of my favorite RPG's it's a perfect bland of traditional rpg (dragon quest/final fantasy/etc) and monster catching

Virtual Insanity, if you will

I've been playing through next order and I'd super grind abit not getting Digimon I was aiming for but there is a bright side you can unlock the digivolution Dojo to lock unwanted evolutions it's So helpfull so you can get Digimon you really want

Ah yes, traumatise the new peeps with Jeri. Good choice

Cyber Sleuth was always better. If only this game had that combat and digivolution mechanics. It could have been a masterpiece.

*laughs in playing a Sukamon/Etemon deck in the TCG*

You should've thrown in some bits like how digimon get created whenever a new thing drops or event happens. Such as the bad cosplay that gave us betsumon. Or how there's no thing with all the digimon so if you look through some cards or a wiki and see a new favorite I hope you like virtual pets because Mametyrannomon is basically only available on the Digimon X2. Also lmao get nume'ed

Honestly Digimon next order Probably a bad digimon game to show off the Comparisons Digimon Cyber slueth being the Better Option.

For me, personally, Digimon Story >>> Digimon World I legitimately can't stand playing Digimon World games but LOVE Digimon Story games

The "sh*t" Digimon are a punishment for players no matter what, but still, Scumon and Numemon can still access to Digimon that were better at the time. Like imagine the first V-Pets, you have a Metal Greymon and your friend has a Metal Mamemon, and then a guy comes with a Monzaemon, the evolution only possible through Numemon. Guess who wins. If your answer wasn't the poop slime inside a teddy bear costume, then you are wrong, because Monzaemon has better chaces of winning against the two and Mugendramon.

Next order is a fantastic disaster, play the switch version on very easy or hate your life. Ive spent way too many hours on next order

glad i watched this cuz I'm currently playing through Digimon Survive with some friends, and Cybersleuth by myself, and being that Next Order is the last Switch digimon game i would need to get, good to know what the fuck i'd be getting myself into beforehand

Might be why I prefer the cyber sleuth and survive games. Not insane. Just neurodivergent

Thankfully, I don't play Digimon World: Next Order. I play Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth.

Using the training hall beyond the rookie stage? Beginner mistake.

if you want a more adult and beter executed game but also want to wait tons of years and to wait on the next monster collecting game go digimon. if you want something that gets rushed but instead gets released nearly every year go pokemon. i would say do both. youll find out how good cybersleuth and world ds really where. and while waiting go play some poke.....shin megami tensei

You have so much luck, you start for probably the less good Digimon Word (what make you able to enjoy the game more than a loot of people), yes people consider the original Digimon Word (With mods, so it works properly) better than Next Order, and there is another game that dont need anything is better than the original but never get to this side of the globe, because Digimon its allergic to money or they just hate Digimon Word re:digitize.

i am smt fan a digimon you kinda have to be insane to like\play smt

The real insanoty is having to explain why digimon is different than pokemon everytime a normie pops up and that its not a rippoff

This is a pretty casual and uneducated take of digimon as a whole. It really only applies to the "world" sub-franchise of digimon and most of the complaints are only really relative to the first world game. in next order, after your first digimon's life cycle, you gain access to evolution information EXTREMELY quickly. Not just that but less than halfway into the game you're basically handed every single item to outright choose whatever evolution you want no questions asked. If you want to complain about a digimon player's sanity, then bringing up that there's never been a truly good digimon game would be a better place to start. Even the best digimon games are 7/10 at best and only TWO are even the same genre as pokemon in terms of playstyle. Comparing it to pokemon is the reason digimon never took off to begin with, outside of having "mon" in the title the franchises are not comparable. The "world" sub franchise is just a console version of tamogachis, which digimon were originally spinoffs of

Sanity is for the weak

Videogames are definitely Digimon's weak point.

Skill Issue the game.

Honestly I think this whole video is a massive overexaggeration, yes digimon games can be grindy but only if you're looking for something very, ultra specific, they are rpgs after all. There is no insanity in that, it's just playing a game and looking for somehting cool... You should have definitively also mentioned the origins of digimon as v-pets/tamagotchi to make it more clear the whole raising monster part and also the separation between digimon story games and digimon world games. For example, I'm playing through Digimon Survive right now and I am not finding it either grindy or insane.

“Insane” in a world full of impatient pokemon players who can’t raise their monsters right, cause they don’t have to cause it’ll evolve to the same thing they expected it to be. The World games pretty much prepared you for parenthood and being a personal trainer. Pokemon fans are spoiled, digimon fans worked to get the monsters we wanted. We live in a pokemon world, we were expecting our desired monster to be serve to us on a silver plater, Digimon says no! You have to earn your desired monsters. Digimon players aren’t insane. Pokemon players are just lazy and spoiled

Digimon world 3 was peak game design. The digivolution requirements were simple and your mons worked like they do in the show by reverting back to rookies Now it’s all about giant collections with farms and I’m like “I don’t want 40 digimon and choose 5, I want 3 that can have multiple forms”

Digimon as a story is better, pokemon games are better

Digimon is cooler, the games suck. Pokemon is booooooring, the games are fun

10 Years ago i would have said Pokemon has the better games and Digimon the better Show. BUt nowadays i say Pokemon games suck equally as much as Digimon and the Pokemon Anime has gotten a lot better. Sooooooo.........