Inside Challenger 2 Tank Training With Ukrainian Troops | WSJ 

Royalty, irrelevant. Bravo as commander and related skill.

Bravo for marrying into the nobility. How’d a commoner manage that

@@ERSCAUS not irrelevant in Britain

@@Jackman1st Point taken and respected.

​@@ERSCAUS so edgy.. Careful, you might cut yourself with that edginess

You are welcome

your gonna need it

@@TheDudeMaaaan They have already needed the assistance and will continue to get more of it. Support in my country at least is only getting stronger for UKR. I am amazed, I honestly thought our people would lose interest but it hasn;t happened thankfully

@@bradsharkey2903 lol as long as the media keeps driving home the narrative, that this is a fight for freedom and democracy, and saving Europe from a Russian invasion

Andrew, I have so much respect and admiration for Ukraine. I hope you will have victory and peace in your country soon. Everyone I know here in the US completely supports Ukraine. 🇺🇸🇺🇦

Why do you call satanists and neonazi "heroes"? An American who served in Ukrainian forces confirmed what I just said, as well as several works from professors and journalists, both from Russia and the West.

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@@mandalorian3865 🌰

​@@mandalorian3865 🐖

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not like splitting ukrain into east and west would be the best solution if the goal was piece and not victory at all cost (mainly civilians).

Did they tell you about the awful things they’ve done?

never forget 228 Incident never forget 64 Tiananmen Square Protests never forget zbrodnia katyńska never forget Holocaust never forget Bucha massacre these murderers are all the same~!! Don't trust KMT Don't trust KMT Don't trust KMT There are communist allies in the roc army Long live for Taiwan independent

@Kermit Idiothunter so the Nazis tell an idiot (you) that they’re fighting Nazis and you believe it? You seem like a special person. Does someone need to remind you periodically to breath?

@@tigerbesteverything What on earth are you drivelling about? Nobody other than third world neo-fascist ruSSia is talking about partitioning Ukraine, and thankfully they're losing.

"With all due respect Mr President Ukraine: Stop talking about Americas sons and daughters. Hey, I served in my country, I know what it means to go to war for my country: We're not going to war for you: that's an absolute guarantee. American boys and girls will not die for Ukraine: we might give you the equipment that allows you to sacrifice more of your troops: but, we're not going to die for you: you're country isn't worth one drop of American blood." Scott Ritter w/ Kim Iverson

You really deserve it folks. The hearts of many of us are with you 💙

You are welcome my friend. The way the Ukrainian people have stood up and the sheer determination and brilliance of your Armed forces in the face of a so called Superpower have been nothing short of astounding. You deserve it and may it continue with help from all of us . Peace brother/Sister from the UK .

Slava Ukraini!

@@wtl912 same with 🇬🇧 ❤️ 🇺🇦

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Glad to help! Ukranians will prevail! Slava ukraini!

No. We need to be thanking you.

сменили бы зелебобу на медвебобу. капец, такие радикальные изменения. за это конечно стоит умирать, сарказм.

A jew ?

In fact I'm pretty sure the Challenger 2 had the longest tank on tank kill. Before it was beaten recently by a Ukrainian T-64BV.

@@BravoCheesecake it was a challenger 1 actually, but challenger 2s gun is better. Also the Ukrainian cant i believe isnt completely confirmed yet. Its rumoured. You could say that there is drone footage out there but i have not seen it and read many groups on the war on telegram everyday and havnt seen any video yet linking to the supposed kill. Either way if it is indeed confirmed, its likely not a within range kill i.e. its not sighted in the tanks sights and fired on like that challenger kill which on its own is more impressive in my opinon, having a drone that sees your misses allowing you to adjust isnt the same as not seeing were you land and having to adjust.

@@ashleygoggs5679 Yeah 10KM is pretty ridiculous lol.

Presumably a rifled barrel is more accurate than a smooth barrel. Slava Ukraine!

@@andyhurrell it's not, it just wears out faster. They have rifled barrels to fire HESH rounds.

Yeah they're going places, mainly Moscow 😂💪

@@dbz9393 don't be too cocky 😂 One hundred rusty tanks won't make a big difference. Especially regarding the takeover of Moscow 😂

@@user-yj7um6hv1d Those tanks don't look very "rusty" to me. The old Soviet buckets the Ruskies are using, on the other hand..

​@@ct92404 it doesn't matter. While 100-200 ukrainians die every single day near Bakhmut, some guy is bragging by insignificant amount of tanks, which apparently can be used to capture Moscow. What a joke.

@@user-yj7um6hv1d They're not going to Moscow, nor do they have any interest to do so. They just want the invaders out.

There’s footage that the MoD released of the challenge 2s planned to go to Ukraine; from the looks of it, they are fitted with the additional armour plates and camouflage.

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This is not even funny. War is not a joke

@@brandchannelbackup9259 Literally Russian Deserter are going to Ukrainian Sides because they're starving and thirsty

Uk only have 300 this tank. And this war 100 tank lost every month

Make tea not war

Congrats, u won cope of the day 🎉

And thank you to Poland for also helping Ukraine so much! The whole free world is united. Respect to Poland and Ukraine , from the US.

we love Poland

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@@user-uf1sl6hl7t English speak please !

@@simonnoble7589 учи русский

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also, road wheel nut tightness does not require checking during combat (3:42)

I don't WSJ thinks an aircraft carrier is a battleship.

Model on 02:05 is a challenger 1 and not CR2.

J C, it's just been announced that the UK has now increased the number of Challenger 2's that they are sending to Ukraine from 14 to 28....

@@williammorley2401 That is great news for Ukraine and very bad news for Runt Putin.

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💛💙🙏

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That's because Poland is based AF, but also because they want to divest themselves of those systems. They are in the process of getting rid of them anyway, and moving to different systems. Now those tanks get to fight the russians, and the poles don't have to keep maintaining them. They are in process of moving onto Korean and American tanks. As they get replacements, expect them to continue divesting their current stocks.

@@jossland1628 well, that and the fact that they get reimbursed for the tanks that they send by EU money aka Germany doesnt hurt either...

Challenger 3 is developed and ready 'soon'; usual problem is British Govt and MOD political dithering and cost cutting.

Challangers are actually considered to be one of the least successful tank series in modern generation (Comparing to T-72/80/90, Leopard 2, and Abrams). First of all they have troubles with their powerplant which makes them the slowest of all. Recently that was addressed by british and they introduced new upgrade that overhauls the propulsion systems and gives it a new transmission (I believe it is german btw), also they have a huge hole in the armor of the front lower plate. During operations in Middle East there were even photos of challangers with reactive armor on those plates to protect against portable anti-tank weapons. Third issue is that british stick with rifled canon that is a big issue because it requires different ammunition than smoothbore Rh-120 family guns (which are NATO standard) and also reduced speed is reducing its shells performance (in energy formula E=mc^2 acceleration). What makes it a good tank, is the good front turret armor and modifications that add the active protection.

@Slava Yarmolenko i like when some random guy gives a 3 paragraph response just to make sure people see how smart he seems

@@Slava_Yarmolenko having no armour on the lower front is not a problem as most NATO mbts are designed to fight in a hull down position +aps isnt fitted as standard on chally 2s

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The hydrogas suspension gives a smooth platform for the gun , It is also able to fire on the move

@@adrianhatton8793 I rode in Abrams. That is the smoothest vehicle I have ridden in.

@@timmattle4730 There is NO evidence of this, just vague assertions of it. We can see the evidence of their use every day, by contrast

Ukraine needs a lot more tanks than what has been promised.

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@@timmattle4730 You don’t matter. Ukraine will keep getting US weapons.

@@timmattle4730 Your opinion changes nothing.

🇺🇦Slava Ukraine🇺🇦kick out russia i hope they wil revenge and invade russia after we kicked them out and take revenge of the war crimes rusia did like bombing hospitals and cyber attacks on europe

That's like the hardest thing in the war, logistics xD

Russia counts not only with modernized tanks, but also with helicopters, drones and jets. Ukraine has no air force.

@@camaradacomissario9641 Ukraine have tons of air defences though and Russia have no air superiority

It's all about numbers and logistics of fuel, ammunition and spare parts.

The Abrams won't get there until the war is over. Uncle Joe doesn't want to send them, so it won't happen soon if ever.

Another advantage of having a human loader is that maintenance work (and there's a lot of that with tanks) is split between 4, not 3 people.

Dean Firnatine, the UK has just doubled it's number from 14 to 28......

Russian tanks also have thermal visors... infact they are now even retrofitting thermal targetting system on older soviet tanks .

​@@thakuranuraganand738Older generation thermal sights-as that's all they have, and only for the commander.

@@thakuranuraganand738 old soviet thermals with low resolution and range, no match for a modern western thermal.

​@@thakuranuraganand738 plus challenger 2 has also second thermal for commander, which helps a lot. I think that only t90m has it also, but they are rare to see

​@@mr.meatsoup5639 Russia has 2nd generation thermals, as do most NATO tanks

They are actually retraining experienced crews to reduce training time

they never stopped training new crew from day 1 ... it always have new people enlisting in the army of every country even in a war time

@@TheJimyyy I don’t doubt it. However, it only makes sense to train guys if you have the means to equip them. While training reserve crewmen is helpful since it allows you to rotate personnel and replace casualties, past a certain point it doesn’t make sense to train more tankers. A tanker without a tank, or pilot without a plane is not very useful once you have sufficient reserves, so once reserves were filled, they likely focused more of their mobilization efforts towards other areas with higher demand. Not saying they stopped training completely since attrition is a thing and you need to replace injured or dead crewmen reserve or active, or to crew that random T-72B3 Dimitri found, but they likely toned down crewmen training efforts after the initial waves of Warsaw Pact tanks and captured Russian tanks had come in. Now that 50+ new tanks are coming in, they likely don’t have a sufficiently large roster to crew both the existing tank fleet and the new tanks, which is why the trainer said that most of them are fresh guys.

@@warbrain1053 That is true, since these guys already know the fundamentals of tanks and need only how to operate their equipment, even a Sherman or T-34 tanker would get up to speed quicker than a newbie. They are likely training reserve tankers, former crewmen who are returning to uniform, or crews who don’t have tanks due to losses, damage and repairs, or major maintenance. However, given the fact that they are training new crews would indicate that the current roster of crewmen is insufficient to fill the new tanks from the west. Ukraine needs as many operational tanks as it can get and pulling a crew out of an active T-72 would result in an empty T-72 and therefore a non-operational tank if there isn’t trained personnel to replace them. While experienced tankers will get through training quicker, someone still needs to crew the now vacant T-72 or T-64, so if a experienced tanker takes 5 weeks to retrain, and a newbie takes 8 to train for example, that would mean that there are 5 weeks you have a vacant tank while you train a replacement crew, should you decide to retrain an active crew on a Western tank. Of course I am making up these numbers since I don’t know how long it actually takes and it can vary (complexity of platform, number of vehicles and trainers available relative to trainees, what training aids and simulators are available and in what numbers, the amount of training received, etc), but I am using them to illustrate my point. While an experienced crew is better in a Leo 2A6 or M1A1 instead of a T-64BV or T-72M1, they are not so much better as to leave functional tanks vacant for 5 weeks or so. After all, at the end of the 8 weeks (or however long it takes) you have two trained crews and with intense fighting in and around Bakhmut and needing to defend a large border against further Russian offensives, pulling crews out of operational tanks would do more harm than good, for now atleast. Once Ukraine has more tanks than it needs, it can retrain existing crews without depriving forces of their armor.

@@MPdude237 what probably is happening is a mix. One experienced officer and 3 new guys per tank or similar so the commander /officer whatever spreads his experience

I feel sorry for the guys who have to stay inside those FV432s, while facing the enemy.

It's not going out of service.

The chassis is being kept for the challenger 3 upgrade programme

To be fair they've already destroyed quite a few t72's

Pretty much any NATO tank is lightyears ahead of those outdated russian turret launchers

@@richboy900 to be fair at the end of the day it comes down to who fires first, and regardless if it’s an abrams or a t-72 an anti-tank system would easily destroy both.

Noo

These videos are meant to be mere entertainment tbh, they don't really say much

this isn't war thunder buddy.

As funny as that is, Russian (and Ukrainian) tanks have been turning around to run away and getting knocked out in this conflict because of it. But yeah, obviously not as big a factor as in a game

From someone who drove both challenger 1 and 2 your completely wrong it can’t even do a 360 turn if you did you’d snap the drive shafts and 63t of metal doesn’t travel well compared to 51t

In the words of Dwayne Johnson: IT DOESN'T MATTER!

@@user-yj7um6hv1d your right it doesn’t matter as you won’t see these near the front line they’ve already been told that by uk government 😂

Нет, прошел на вылет, башня сорвана, но не улетела.

I predict there will be more direct hitsagainst the nemy by using Chally or the Leo tanks, however the most FRIENDLY FIRE hits will be by using the M1A2

Depends on user, the Ch2 is a better Tank for range, hit protection and defence. The L2 is better for mobility and flanking on offence with better anti Armour,.

and from France

@@jeanpascaud4218 France didn't send thanks yet

1972 for the t-72 > 1995 for challenger 2. Ya, I’d say the T-72 is a bit long in the tooth now.

Even the oldest Challenger 1s, are still a whole generation ahead of anything Russia has. Not comparable at all. They will not be able to handle Challenger 2.

@@rocketassistedgoat1079😂😂

@@profinneupane6883 Are you a MAGAt conspiracy-theorist?

​@@rocketassistedgoat1079 Delusional nonsense The Challenger 2 has a weaker gun (rifled) and you're claiming that the Challenger 1 is superior to the T-90M?

It's not more accurate, because apfsds ammo is fin-stabilized so rifling isn't needed, and manual loading doesn't increase survivability.

@@NicholasBeadle increases. When a projectile hits the place where the so-called automatic loader is located, that is, into the ammunition load, then the turret is demolished for the tank and there is meat inside. Ammunition can detonate simply from a strong blow to this place, not even from penetration. This is the weak point of all Soviet tanks, and this often happens. In tanks with manual loading, the ammunition is in a safe place and this does not happen.

@@NicholasBeadle if it’s interesting, the Internet is full of videos of T64 and T72, and T80 tanks with torn turrets, so that you understand the turret was torn off not by the ammunition of an enemy tank, but by the detonation of the ammo rack of the automatic loader. Anyone who has at least some relation to Soviet tanks knows this (he served in the army, fought in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine). The turret torn off by its own ammunition rack is the hallmark of Soviet tanks😏 I am writing from Ukraine

​@@sabnimhan3010 No, safety of crew and tank depends on palcement of ammo magazine not on loading method. Auto loader can have blow out panels like in Leclerk or K2. Challenger2 on the other hand don't have blow out panel and have human loader. Of all NATO tanks, only the Abrams has all its ammunition stored safely.

From what I've read, the Challenger 2 has probably the highest survivability of any tank in the world. The Leopard 2 has other strengths, but the Challenger 2 seems to be almost indestructible against basic ATGMs and most Soviet tank rounds.

Didn't Bradley's wipe out those also in Desert Storm? 25 mm cannon ignite the base of the turret

The Bovington tank museum has former Desert Storm T-72's. You can be sure that the British tank regiments, located within a few km of the museum, have full understanding of how to make those things brew up. Pretty sure that they know the capability of their own tanks and you can be sure that the new Ukrainian Challenger crews will be well armed, not just with a formidable tank, but also with knowledge on how to destroy T-72s fast and easy. Their infantry already know how to use AT weapons and are probably the most skilled anti-tank fighting force in the world right now. They won't need hundreds of Challengers, nor Leo2s, they just need targets. And Ukraine is a target rich environment. Russian infantry won't be able to stop these tanks. Their armour may delay the tanks a moment whilst they lock on target.

Comparing Iraqi T72s to Russian Modernized 72s is like comparing M1A1 Abrhams to M2A2 V3 not to mention the polish modernized T72s are litreally better than the challangers and leos going to Ukraine at litreally everything, the only reason the west is sending these tanks is to save face

@@kbanghart in fact, the Bradleys had more tank kills in Desert Storm than the Abrams tanks. Not sure if they did it with the cannon or TOW missiles, though.

Throw in Russian made tanks and the logistics will be complex.

Might even get to field test a new Challanger 3 soon.

@@Whoami691 I want Ukraine to win.

Jesus

One of the most enduring paradoxes of human history is that in order to achieve peace, one must be ready for war. War is a destructive and costly phenomenon that nobody desires, yet it often seems inevitable when conflicts arise between nations or groups with different interests and values. Peace, on the other hand, is a state of harmony and cooperation that everyone aspires to, but it can take different forms depending on the perspective and goals of the parties involved. For some, peace means coexistence, where different entities respect each other's sovereignty and rights and seek to resolve their disputes through dialogue and compromise. For others, peace means domination, where one entity imposes its will and ideology on another through force or deception and claims to have brought stability and order. An example of this latter type of peace is the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014, which violated international law and sparked a geopolitical crisis. Therefore, those who value peace as coexistence must always be vigilant and prepared to defend themselves against those who seek peace as domination. As the Roman writer Vegetius famously said: "If you want peace, prepare for war."

When did that ever happen?

That what Europe did. Especially germany, cut off 2/3 of army budget, got dependent on russian resources. And you what happened next.... Army is a MUST for a nation to survive.

@@user-eq9xs5fz9uI said "imagine" ... so, imagine if instead, in a world where the famously said phrase was, "If you want peace, prepare for diplomacy." I am not here to debate about whether if is possible or not because, again, I said "imagine."

@@jeremiasrobinson In this comment, I want to invite you to imagine a different scenario. Imagine if instead of the famous Latin adage "Si vis pacem, para bellum" (If you want peace, prepare for war), the world had adopted another motto: "If you want peace, prepare for diplomacy." How would that change the course of history? How would that affect the current conflicts and crises? How would that shape our future prospects and challenges? I am not here to debate about whether this is possible or not because, again, I said "imagine." I am here to ask you to open your minds and hearts to a new vision of peace that is based on dialogue, cooperation and mutual respect.

We are though

​@@nobodyherepal3292 but just 31. And they are coming late. It was obvious made so germany also sends tanks. And I don't understand why wouldn't usa give like 300 of older m1a1 which are just rusting in desert on storage. They won't be used by USA never again, and will be still one of the best tanks in Ukraine

@@nobodyherepal3292 It actually looks like no Abrams tanks will deploy in Ukraine based on current news reports. Certainly none before 2024 if at all. Personally I doubt any will make it to Ukraine and PR wise it was more a stunt to push Germany to release Leopards. Europe has enough Leopards 2s for the job, if Ukraine can convince enough countries to part ways with them mind

@@k-ron7403 we have 31 on the way, and they’ll be ready by April

​@@tetispinkman9135 Apparently they don't want to draw from existing stocks yet, they say they don't want the depleted Uranium armor to be captured by the Russians so they are making new M1A2s with a different composite armor more similar to the leopard or challenger tanks. I don't really understand this excuse, I guess the vehicles being new will make logistics easier since they won't break down but it means the numbers and time it takes to get them the tanks will be suboptimal.

Yeah...the russians💀💀💀

@@bjjkickboxing7876 No the guys with ZERO experience up against experienced warfighters are screwed. Try to imagine you were plucked from out of nowhere and told you need to learn how to operate and maintain a modern complex battle tank as part of a joint force. o_0 #MarkMyWords

@@SoCalFreelance the russians were loosing the battle when ukraine had NO tanks. When poland sent tanks, the "new" ukranian armored divisions ROLLED through russian tanks. Bow theu get more advanced tanks with more training at larger quantities.......russia is fcked💀💀💀💀💀

​@@SoCalFreelance Russia will still lose, their tanks are outdated to something like a challenger 2 or leopard 2

​@@richboy900 But that doesn't mean outdated tanks can still be used. Remember the modern day tank killers aren't other tanks, but anti tank missiles like the Javelin and the NLAW.

Bro your lancent drones can only effectively kill them indian army taking notes of war they already stockpiled hundreds of lotering munition of indian origin and also upgrading our t 90 with aps and better optics from arjun tank

This tank will be the last site a lot of your brothers will see on this earth

You would be wise to consider how many countries Russia defies and how fighting a majority of the world has gone for aggressors historically. Russia simply cannot win and it’s only going to get worse.

Then please inform yourself properly and with trusted sources. Kremlin propaganda is massive.

Good luck you will need it if you think these tanks are easy to destroy your sadly mistaken Not 1 thing has stopped a challenger 2 tank

@@malcolmdavis3282 ...all they have to do is take out a track,..then they just go in circles.

@@malcolmdavis3282 ...but in the mean time they're a crippled sitting duck with a bounty on them. And, I would bet that those drones are quite capable of far worse,..this conflict has not been tank friendly.

@@samhull8382 Incorrect.

@@NorthernNorthdude91749 ...which part?

Not even remotely; those tanks will be destroyed just as easily as any other tanks on the battlefield Russia will destroy Western tanks with rocket and conventional artillery, drones, attack helicopters, fire-and-forget LMUR missiles, guided Hermes missiles, Kornet ATGMS and anti-tank mines.

@@thephoenix756 By what? The poorly trained, poorly equipped Russian military?

@@Eric-sn4qz Then explain why Ukraine has lost virtually all the tanks they had before February 2022; they also lost the majority of the upgraded T-72 tanks they received from their Central and Eastern European allies. Western tanks will just as easily be destroyed.

@@thephoenix756 Really? What’s holding them up then? They can’t even get the job done now. As a former Soldier, I feel bad for the average Russian Soldier. Putin is the Devil and will never prevail.

@@thephoenix756 I’ll do you one better. How is it that a little mom and Pop country can fend off the big Russian bear? How many casualties has the Russian military suffered?

Actually they will need 100+ Tanks and 200+ APCS to drive a wedge between russians in Crimea and eastern Ukraine. If they do that and interdict fragile russian supply lines they win easily.

go look at a T64BV's technical package and then compare it with any of the western vehicles. youl get the picture pretty quickly. the only tank im concerned about is the leopard 2a4 due to its unarmored ammo bustle in the hull.

@@mhero6865 i highly doubt ukraine is dumb enough to pack all their western armored assets in a 24km wide peninsula that separates crimea from ukraine proper. Most of these will probably end up in bakhmut or luhansk.

They’ve already destroyed thousands of them without Western MBTs. These tanks aren’t going to win the war on their own, that was never the plan.

Cope harder. pro-Russian fascists now reduced to bragging about ATGMs and Ukraine has the better ones even when it comes to those.

Challenger 2 is considered the best protected of all Western third generation MBTs, and is a whole generation ahead of anything Russia has. Kornet will not be able to penetrate the front of this.

@@rocketassistedgoat1079well that will be seen when it arrives in the battlefield until then we can just watch

Or kornet will meet hesh round

Well challenger 2 can take a hit from a Milan so....

@Chumthungo Ngullie ''Easy breakfast meal for Russian kornets.'' Are they going to be filling them with icecream?

Which haven’t stopped Ukraines T-72s yet 😂

Not just Kornets Russia will destroy Western tanks with rocket and conventional artillery, drones, attack helicopters, fire-and-forget LMUR missiles, guided Hermes missiles, Kornet ATGMS and anti-tank mines.

​@@nobodyherepal3292 Actually, that's precisely why Ukraine is asking for more tanks; it has lost the overwhelming majority of its pre-war tank fleet.

😂 Kremlin propaganda bot

RuZZia what a joke of army 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Losers . Get ready for defeat troll.

yeah, it's an interesting fact that the T-64 is older but better than the T-72. Naturally, the Ukrainians have upgraded them significantly.