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Inside Leg Mechanics For Skiing - Tom Gellie and Demelza Clay 

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@MrArunasB
@MrArunasB 5 дней назад
Great subject! This is the same issue I was working on recently. Q angle is new for me and very good information, it makes it even more understandable. I had a problem when I kept my femurs parallel my hips were kind of stuck and locked when I was changing the turn and my inside leg was always in the way no matter how much I was trying to roll my inside knee into the turn. So my friend recommends keeping the femur V shape or knees crossed as you would A-frame and all started to happen smoothly my hips started moving from side to side easily and quickly.
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 5 дней назад
Pleased to hear you found some new information in considering the q angle 📐 thanks for tuning in
@paleace
@paleace 5 дней назад
Thx for the insights.. As you say many bit of puzzles that needs to fit into an ever changing jigsaw puzzle that will never be finished. 😅
@skidadTV
@skidadTV 3 дня назад
This is the highest level ski technique conversation I’v ever seen on the internet No roasting necessary 👍
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 3 дня назад
Thanks Joe. That said, I’d be happy to be roasted by you of all people 😜
@massimilianoortodossi8523
@massimilianoortodossi8523 2 дня назад
Loved also your internet conversations🤞
@chrisogg
@chrisogg 4 дня назад
Excellent discussion....now I'm gonna play with this all year and feel the ski behavior that goes with this whole discussion.
@otisregatoni617
@otisregatoni617 4 дня назад
Very good discussion - some solid points. Each body will find its own fulcrum even with a larger radius / longer ski. Back to old school. Chill, Otis
@tvardalos
@tvardalos 3 дня назад
Excellent inside baseball episode. Reminds me of years ago when I had a private with Gord Brown at Revy. He called it “hip check” and I always have that running in the background when I’m skiing. 👍
@ginocavallotti6555
@ginocavallotti6555 3 дня назад
Great chat! I cant stop thinking that in the book Ultimate Skiing, the "A" shape shin thing is mention as something that is not actually wrong, or is not something that you do all the time. You can read it in page 67 "Relative alignment of lower legs", but basically to try to ski with parallel shins works against the fundamental principle of leg independence. Now with your explanation, that chapter makes so much sense now! Great topic! Thanks for the videos!
@rafaelalbertotorres8070
@rafaelalbertotorres8070 4 дня назад
Excellent conversation! Something new to try this season by starting with the moving of the hip to the inside.
@MrRavenski23
@MrRavenski23 3 дня назад
I need to try your pistol squat idea to get the hip onto the snow, i can't quite visualise what it all means but perhaps it will make sense when I try it. Great video, as always!
@davidbeazer9799
@davidbeazer9799 День назад
Very timely for what I’m working on!
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing День назад
Glad to hear it!
@ardenpowers7730
@ardenpowers7730 4 дня назад
Very Interesting. A great opportunity to revisit what students are going thru on snow.
@PiperPiper195
@PiperPiper195 4 дня назад
Brilliant! Thank you both of you from Canada for this insightful conversation! I'd love to see what you mean by cheeky knees in a video!
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 4 дня назад
Our pleasure!
@PlaneImpactGolf
@PlaneImpactGolf 4 дня назад
Tom great discussion as a lifelong 73 year old skier and always working on making fun turns I noticed this in trying the exercise. The inside hip showing more of my butt cheeks than knee too far inside that getting into that position my upper body seem to have a natural counter. Have you noticed that feeling as well?. Made my overall body position more in balance and ready for the next turn. Thxs for the podcasts like them all.
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 4 дня назад
Yes I notice it has the effect of just a nice amount of counter.
@PlaneImpactGolf
@PlaneImpactGolf 4 дня назад
@@Bigpictureskiing do you ever do a ski camp in USA?
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 4 дня назад
@@PlaneImpactGolf I don’t not at this stage anyway.
@gogglebro9421
@gogglebro9421 4 дня назад
Tom, interesting conversation about Q angle and rolling ankles and knees. I was reminded that I’d seen a video of Deb Armstrong interviewing racers at Breckenridge. A college racer, Chase Seymour said he was coached to flex his “outside” ankle (not roll the feet and ankles) at the start of the turn. I’ve been working with that movement and noticed that in doing so, that I had to lead with the inside hip and respect the Q angle of the inside leg as a function of biomechanics. Also, I learned from your video, for the first time, that the lowering of the hip is a function of rounding out the turn and thereby controlling speed. Thank you for the insights. Kind regards, Marshall
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 4 дня назад
Thanks Marshall
@zentune100
@zentune100 4 дня назад
Love this podcast! Dont fight your anatomy. When the leg flexes (during gait or any other time) it is FAR more natural to follow the Q. Some would have skiers roll their inside knees so far as to create a potentially dangerous misalignment should one lose the outside ski. Not to mention that the rolled knee does tend to create blocking.
@zyumbik
@zyumbik 21 час назад
So insightful! I'm saving this to re-watch again later, this video is packed with such interesting topics I've never heard anywhere before. Most of the advice I've been hearing from instructors in the past 2 years has been working on the feet, starting the carve from the feet. However a hip seems like a much more important part that's pretty much neglected. Some instructors try to give some hip advice but it's nowhere near as detailed and precise as this. Will be focusing a lot more on the hips this upcoming season. Q-angle is also new info to me but makes so much sense.
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 13 часов назад
Let us know how you get on. I’d also reiterate that ideally you go and explore movement in your skiing and not always be thinking there is one way to do it. Or one way to think about it.
@zyumbik
@zyumbik 5 часов назад
@@Bigpictureskiing yep, that's true, I just feel like this info was a missing link for me. :)
@arunasciuksys6661
@arunasciuksys6661 3 дня назад
Excellent video!
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 3 дня назад
Thank you very much!
@roy87345
@roy87345 3 дня назад
So informative and original ❤❤❤
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 2 дня назад
Demelza and I love to geek out about ski technique!
@ericzap7673
@ericzap7673 4 дня назад
Great discussion with Demelza Clay The Subject was hot and provided good clarification, I have a suggestion for BPS, your ''old videos'' please create a life fee for your members . With this fee for a lifetime, we can't have access to all your science...
@godin8262
@godin8262 4 дня назад
Hey Tom at 34:00 you guy talk about what to say to those people who have been told they bring too much their hip inside... about that what I notice, these peoples then to bring their hip inside on a rotational plan from a conter rotation of there hip action and that's very different than what you are talking, if I understand properly, you talk about pulling the inside leg up and more you pull up the leg more the hip get inside and that little A frame and hip inside action is create from vertical mechanic aspect of pulling the inside. Hope I explain my point of view properly. But it is very interesting information you brought to us... For me, more my skis are in a flat stage, lower joint will be more parallel and more your get high edges more the natural A frame build upThanks.
@davidbeazer9799
@davidbeazer9799 День назад
You’re going to need a t shirt that says, “Cheeky Butt Cheek”. Also I have 30m GS skis just to learn from like you suggested.
@amundekroll7490
@amundekroll7490 4 дня назад
And there goes the ACL.Try to teach skiing movements that can prevent injuries and be more efficient.
@hermannarminius7746
@hermannarminius7746 4 дня назад
She has a great name lol.
@OfficialFishyGamer
@OfficialFishyGamer 4 дня назад
You should not return to skiing 4 months after an acl graft. It has nothing to do with meeting physical benchmarks; the graft in your knee weakens post op and is usually at its weakest 24-36 weeks post op. The melbourne protocol even specifies that most research suggests a minimum of 9 months of recovery and therapy is necessary.
@snowlife00
@snowlife00 4 дня назад
Thanks for this comment, much needed as it important to highlight the variability of rehab approaches that are available to different skiers according to the nature of their injury, pre injury conditioning, strength, rehab approach… and the option we have to ease back into skiing. I agree that 4 months is early and not everyone would be able to do what I chose to do in my rehab. This was just my story, I had a team of experts guiding me through this, and this is where we landed because of my strength and skill specific athleticism. I would not advise anyone to try and copy what I did without similar expert advice. There were many other factors at play that I didn’t detail here that enabled my recovery here, but the largest factor I should point out is that I had not ‘returned to sport’ at 4 months… I had ‘returned to practice’. These are terminologies discussed in the Melbourne ACL Protocol 2.0 that provide a relevant delineation. After I passed the protocol tests, I spent those first months on snow just simply skiing greens and blue runs; very centred, very low performance, on uncrowded runs so I could be sure no one would hit me. I ‘returned to practice’ in a knee brace for added security. Being hit by a bother skiers was deemed the greatest risk for me at that stage. The ‘return to practice’ phase of recovery is similar to the way a ski racer might start doing some light drill work on snow in a roped off controlled environment, to keep their CNS firing on task and their mental health intact. Kkeeping an athlete completely away from their sport until they are ready for the full version; high performance skiing or full contact/collision/crashes etc - is unnecessary, bad for mental health and will cause more skill regression than necessary… especially if you can create an environment that is safe and have the ability to perform your turns in a way that you know you are not going to put the graft at risk. As an instructor who has done more than the 10,000 hours required to ensure the exactness of my execution, this was something I was more than confidant that I could do. So, even though I passed the ‘return to sport ‘ tests at 4 months, I did not start skiing at higher performances until much later, I made a very gradual ‘return to sport’ over the space of 6 - 24 months. In fact, these runs you see me skiing here in March 2022 are at 19 months post op. Great question though, I hope that clears up any confusing messaging for anyone listening.
@NibbleSnarph
@NibbleSnarph 4 дня назад
What a great lesson in perspective, expertise, and application.
@OfficialFishyGamer
@OfficialFishyGamer 3 дня назад
@@snowlife00 Hey, that makes way more sense. Just thought some of the messaging at the beginning was little confusing but that clears it up.
@snowlife00
@snowlife00 3 дня назад
@@OfficialFishyGameryep I agree, I didn’t expand on that and it may have been misleading so I’m pleased that I’m able to clear it up here. I didn’t really want to spend too much time detailing my knee rehab. The goal was to discuss the inside leg mechanics.
@Bigpictureskiing
@Bigpictureskiing 3 дня назад
Partly my influence too as I wanted us to focus on the inside leg mechanics as the main topic as opposed to knee rehabilitation and return to skiing. Glad you brought this up in the comments as it gave Demelza a chance to give some more information. We don’t want to give the wrong idea to folks. 👍
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