Inside Star Citizen: Alpha 4.0 - Conflict Resolution 

Absolutely. Right now, the furthest I dare to be away from my ship is inside the outpost shipping building to turn in my cargo, after which I go straight back. Especially when our entire lives will be more or less inside our ships, they need to be incredibly hard to detect (I.E. require skill to find in a scan and expensive equipment) when landed.

Makes me wonder if there is a plan for a scrambler or some kind of stealth tech for prone ships, so as you inferred, the ship could be act as a temporary post while the crew are out on a recon mission or something like that.

@@joelmulder If terrain could cover a good portion of their radar sig. and powering down could make thermal/EM pretty much Nil, that would do it. You know, like parking in a depression or the base of a cliff/mountain for most ships. Capital size ships might be pretty hard to hide like this, though with a cap ship I assume you'd more likely leave it in orbit or very high atmo, to send down a smaller landing craft. Or not go alone, so that most of the crew can get in ground vehicle(s) and the pilot can go park the ship in upper atmo or orbit.

Powered down ships shouldn't be visible on the radar / HUD. Simple as that.

​@@Nightflash28maybe that couples with a timer for start up. Make it an option total shutdown that makes you extremely stealthy. But to get back going it's a 2 min start up or something.

déjà vu from one old game. Ark trailers be like: Raiding with raptos and arrows. Ark actual gameplay: Couple of missiles from 10 miles away and your entire house completely obliterated

jokes on you they borked the A2s guidance system so no precision bombing currently xD

Lol hopefully they overhaul the anti-air turrets for bomb interception.

Until they put air defenses in game.

LOL!! That was my exact same thought!

was literally thinking this, i dont expect social areas will be super popular in pyro once they drop lol

Going to have to do everything in a group in Pyro, solos are not going to have a good time.

Exactly.

So, back to the old counter strike rules .. who still remembers their fast buy shortcuts for a full setup in < 10 seconds?

I seriously wonder if they play their own game.

😂

The T in T-pose stand for Tactical

o7

The tactical T-pose. The Tactil-Pose.

Slowly SC is turning into EVE online, I hated pvp in eve, cause it's all gangs and gangbangs

this game is not realy punishing at all.. a death just means alot of time gets wasted but with medbeds as mobile respawn its not even that. they allow all that crazy chaotic no penalty no consequences combat and the players get super used to it. when they finally, a decade later, try to implement the "death of a spaceman" permadeath system, players will boycott it. when the real consequences arrive, at least half the playerbase they are attracting right now, vanishes.

@@LashlayDS9a lot of time being wasted is a punishment. And SC has a lot of time waste

⁠@@Turanic1PVP in EVE was what I lived for. There were just certain systems you had to be incredibly sneaky to exist in or travel in a big group. And it made for fantastic gameplay.

Then stay out of pyro. It's a lawless system and no one is forcing you to go there.

Those guys are squadron42 devs. In a single player game you can script those kinds of cool action movie scenes but it will totally not work in a multiplayer environment, where other players are actually able to aim and fire properly.

I dont think the armor in game is working yet. Realistically youd have armor on that would mitigate damage. You arent supposed to just fall over and die, the TTK will be much longer than it is now.

They are intending for you to use the new ‘hold F to purchase’ function. You can definitely respond in time if you use it

Well, everyone is a bulletsponge now, so yeah, you have time. Don't even have to have situational awareness or anything. Lowest common denominator game design.

People thinking others will just walk around faction hubs waiting to down some players without an issue. Those people will ruin their reputations with that faction, and will be shot at on sight. If you think those people will be camping those areas all the time you are wrong. They would have to normalize their reputation first, and then they can kill again.

This is a single player dev trying to make an MP environment.

@@Providence932 just like an audio engineer trying to make a flight model. Garbage all around

and then that guy gets killed by the locals

@@Aztaable unlikely, and that doesn't help the fact that I am already dead does it

@@Aztaable ...and then their friend picks up all the loot. If you're going to be put to death immediately for killing another player, why even let it happen, it's just wasting people's time. If we're expected to be around other players while doing actual shopping - not cargo kiosks in random POIs where you can clear the area, actual shopping - it should be in an armistice zone

dont forget armor refactor, it would take more to bring down a heavily armored player

More that people are bullet sponges.

@@ucheeke5110 standing target? rly? any LMG/SMG with a sptay in head and you're dead in 1 sec

All the test vid has been done with M and K since you always see f and r​@@Holfyy

Exactly. They're pretending there will be firefights when in fact there will be executions.

Exactly.

There are no pads where you're landing.

nah.. you might be landing and sneaking.. but your ship will be destroyed way before you try to leave, because ppl can see it from miles away and usually destroy any ship thats remotely close to the place they want to visit... and they just drop a bomb on the place anyways..

@@LashlayDS9 would be interesting to have some sort of way to hide your ship when you land

@@martinr7728 very true.. the best way would be remote control, just send the ship back to orbit and call it back down when you are ready to leave.

Stealth inserts aren't that hard. Grab a small ship like a Rambler, and park just outside of radar range when you land. After you kill the engines your radar signature will drop lower, and someone would need to be actively looking for your ship to find it. And then jump on the Nox in your cargo hold and drive. If you want to be super stealthy, park the Nox just outside of its radar range and want the last few hundred meters. Nobody will know that you are there. ...If you want to be stealthy, the last thing you would want to do is land on a landing pad.

At 200m you won't need radar to find the ship because you will see it, unless there is a ton of tree cover. And even at 1km you will be able to easily see larger ships like a C2. That seems a little unrealistically close. If you have a reasonably stealthy sized ship and park a little further out, it is unlikely you will be spotted. And if you do try to park that close, and someone is watching their radar, they will see you coming in for a landing anyway since you can be picked up on radar much further out when your engines are on.

And changes to a different type of turret when destroyed 🙄

I've "disappeared until s42" a long time ago.

​@@matheuskalil5680So long and thanks for all the fish 🐟 - Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy 😅

@@MooneShadow Love that book.

Yeah agreed, 4.0 cannot be delayed anymore. I dont think CIG understands how much actually rides on it being successful

​​@@matheuskalil5680me too. Yet, here we are. 😅 Watching ISC videos, has been, and I feel will be for a long time to come, my only star citizen fix.

Okay. Bye!

They make Nintendos for Bobs like you.

@@insomniacultNintendo literally produces some of the greatest games today and in history. Not the trash talk I’d be throwing that way. And they don’t beg people for money, they produce and produce very well.

​@@larrymitchell6470 9yo detected.

They don’t know anything else

They're pushing to entice the Battlefield and Call of Duty crowd. They're setting a very bad and very uninspired precedent.

that's not what they said, they said they were working on more non combat stuff. That doesn't mean they are moving away from combat.

Womp womp Also, didnt the big cargo patch just drop????????? EVERYTHING DOESNT REVOLVE ABOUT WHAT I LIKE WAAAAAAAAH

​@@Octobouch WOW, cargo! How long has cargo and boxes been in the game? How many professions are there? How many of those professions are basically tier 0 to 1 where you aim a magic laser beam at a rock or side of a ship and the laser beams magically hoover up the bits of material? Stop and actually look at the whole thing and think critically. Outside of combat, what full and complete gameplay loop (that CIG themselves explained and sold us for a decade) exists in the game? It doesn't exist!

@@anon4662 Yeah, but if that is Pvp the other guy will just magdump you. I dont think an armor will tank a full mag, that dont make sense :c

@@anon4662armour rebalance when? Once the flight model is fixed? Once traversal 2.0 is done? Once Ship armour is in? Your point may be valid in the future, but not as it stands

@@anon4662 if the only sollution to all this ends up to be turning everybody into a bullet sponge... im out.. thats just stupid.. ppl should not be forced to wear max armor at all times. im still waiting for them to change it so you cant pilot your ship while wearing any type of armor. attacking another player should be a complicated decision with lots of consequences, not something you do just to be save.

​@@LashlayDS9.... That's what the crime stat is for wtf... Mortal online 1 did this years ago successfully creating a criminal underworld in a video game. The sc system that they proposed is basically the next logical step of that system

​@@QuotidianStupidityhaha, I still can't get over ship armour not being in game. They've had that on the cards for like 10 years now.

So sayeth the word of the lord Christ Roberts

lol

Yeah, it's not really for your casual citizen. It's a high-risk, high-reward star system.

space is vast. Generally situational awareness can prevent ganks unless people go way out of their way to hide themselves. You're about to use kiosk.. who else is around? Guy looks shady? Don't use the kiosk. Approaching a landing zone? See a ship thats not yours? Thats shady.. look around the landing zone before you actually land. Make sure to close ship ramps... generally if you go in with the idea that someone is going to try to kill you, chances are you will see any sort of ambush a mile away. Its when people drop their guard and forget that they can be murdered whenever, that is when the pirate thrives. Same goes for getting ganked by pirates in space. Don't use direct routes.. drop out of QT early, dog leg it so you don't come out at the typical place people will come out. Be aware of choke points. Take advantage of how big the play space actually is and keep an eye on chat as that sort of thing generally gets screamed about for 10 minutes so you know where potential trouble may be at. Just keep your eyes up and head on a swivel and you will spot the griefers before you fall into the trap. The single best way to ensure your own safety is to murder anything that isn't you. It can suck but its truly the only way to be safe. Fact is PvP isn't going anywhere, you're not really safe in stanton at all once you leave a station. The only difference here is now you aren't safe in the station. Just be mindful of that and never.. ever... EVER.. have anything on you that you can't afford to replace. PvP is going to find you like it or not. You're not safe.. just keep it in mind.

A lot of people have been saying this!

Pyro ain't for me either. Maybe the next system. See you in 5 years lol.

Same

For players that play in Pyro, combat is kinda the point. Besides, Stanton has tons of cargo terminals where you can get ambushed, and players successfully use those terminals all the time.

Stay in stanton if you don't want to go with a team, or be in a risky situation. A total safe world is a boring world, And I'm not a pirate at all!

@@RobertTheCoder well once we get better ai, they will be even more protected in stanton.

It could work if the ditch so many time sinks and remove full loot. Time sinks and regression is veeeery niche. PvP is niche, full loot is niche within a niche. Time sinks are extremely niche so SC is a niche within a niche of a niche.

No, DOASM has been mentioned, if you follow the videos, you would know.

well u have other games like farming simulation that may fit your play style better.

@@seveneternal7988 Is farming simulator cohesive and thoughtfully designed unlike SC? Cuz if it is it sounds great.

@@seveneternal7988 Funnily enough farming simulator is a cohesive and a well designed video game unlike star citizen

@@jensrietveld1642 funnily enought more people play SC than farming simulator which is a well designed video game.

I want the ability to get out of my prospector and beat the rocks into submission.

Amen. Turning into COD citizen.

so u missed the previous ISC?

Like? Sorry I guess I just associate visceral with combat or at least violence usually. Can you give me an example of visceral non combat related gameplay?

You guys are really blind huh? Cargo patch just dropped. We also have salvage and mining with more non combat coming. Stop being drama queens every time they talk about combat.

glad to know you're still alive.

It's strange that such a simple solution doesn't seem to occur to Devs...

I just had an idea, and I'm sure it was something that was never thought of before: shield generators on the ground, that can only be disabled via ground assault! So revolutionary!

Good luck getting fuel with bad rep then since no faction will sell to you if your just a straight a hope all the time. Griefets will probably won't to stay in Stanton where they can just go to jail. Pyro there isn't jail you die you wake up at a place that won't sell you nothing so good luck to griefets in pyro

@@joeswanson420have they actually linked these things to reputation though?

@@joeswanson420 If necessary, you have a disposable account with whichever ship can cause the maximum damage at the lowest cost, or you steal one on site and hand over your loot to the other account or an accomplice. That kills the high risk, high reward gameplay right off the bat and reputation becomes a non issue. Heck even now people use secondary accounts for pvp or „pirate gameplay“

@@DarthZavana that's not the majority though

@@joeswanson420 realy.. some player will always be kind enough to supply you with fuel or repairs.. and then that player gets killed right after the transaction.. but there will always be another kind person..

I swear the devs are beyond out of touch sometimes

Yeah... 'Oh it's lawless, it can turn into combat anywhere in Pyro, not like Stanton'. Clearly you've never been to Stanton

​@@FlaviusUrsusin Stanton most shops are in armistice zones, there literally no areas NOT in armistice zones that are even worth going in to a shop

@@XxTavoRxX I did not specify shops. There'll be some armistice zones in Pyro also.

I dont hate the idea though. They could fix it with personal shields that can take a few rounds but EXTREMELY slow to recharge.

They dont think about these kinds of things.... they dont have the skill time or effort

Wouldve made way more sense for xeno to live in militarised bunkers or compounds

@@jensrietveld1642 or idk a big asteroid base like grim hex

They're not supposed to have Idris or anything very high tech in lore, it was specifically for testing events

​@@jensrietveld1642Why would there be militarized bunkers in Pyro? No military force ever really occupied it.

omg youre so toxic so negatif shhh :P Thats what im told when I point out their neverending false advertising and malicious misleading gameplay videos.

It doesnt even look good. It looks like gameplay of my dementia ridden grandmother trying to play the game. How can they make fluid and fun gunplay when they can barely move and aim?

They can always add more, its never the final result. But thats the problem, will we ever be able to enjoy the final result.

I want a pet Dalek that is loyal to me in Star Citizen. 😂

@@Observer_Custos Seems like that would come with a high risk of getting exterminated in the back

@@cv368 not if it was loyal to me. Backstabbing is not possible if it is truly loyal. But the concept of a loyal Dalek to anything other than the Dalek cause is almost an oxymoron.

Based on what?

​@@QuotidianStupidity based on year after year of CIG promising and not delivering? If CIG gives a date, it's always 6 months extra.

@@QuotidianStupiditytheir track record

@@SeraphimSimu given Jared’s comment about two weeks ago that they were aiming for Q3 that would be absolutely tragic. I could see a further delay happening though.

@@QuotidianStupidity Wild how you still trust anything they say.

nor the time

Only Star Citizen isn't just combat. They literally just released the cargo patch. And oh let's see... salvage and mining too! Plus there's a lot more coming that's not combat. This video is about pyro... it's Lawless. What did you expect?

@@csdigitaldesign Reading comprehension. I didn't say Star Citizen is just combat. I said this video is yet another completely focused on combat. If you're going to try to correct me, step one is to be correct.

@@photogasm5 read my comment more carefully. Also you did very much imply that you felt like SC is turning into nothing but combat. Which isn't true. Let's not bs here.

@@csdigitaldesign No. Don't read INTO what I'm saying, read what I'm actually saying. I used plain English that isn't hard for anyone to understand. There are no secret messages here, no implications. No one is attacking Star Citizen, I have thousands in this project. All I'm saying is it would be nice if we had more videos that focused on non-combat activities. Lately even the cargo focused videos heavily featured combat (even in our persistent hangars). Stop making this into something it's not. I won't be replying again. Cheers.

@@csdigitaldesign Well, he specifically said 'video', which is true to the fact that CIG have a lot of content on their channel that is majorly focused, or is entirely focused on combat. The combat focus is getting old, it really is.

It would be cool if CIG could release a quality patch. Everything else is just lies.

It would be possible if death had real consequences. In games like DayZ you frequently see people resolve issues non-violently because everyone understands that death has a weight to it in the game and everyone has experienced it. It's the only game I've seen where players negotiate, stick eachother up, compromise, trade, form aliances etc. all organically, even though there are no rules stopping them just shooting it out. SC has Nursas and low consequences to death so no one is going to really think twice about just getting into a fight as a default.

Yeah but they’re american what do you expect

don't use combat helmets. but yeah i understand

​@@minecraftprovie5076 Other players will still use them and it pushes a run and gun gameplay, because, they don't have to check whether they hit and killed somebody or not. Complete nonsense in a game like star citizen, with crazy long setup times and hard consequences for death.

I've always hated hitmarkers. Serve little to no purpose except making a game look worse and less immersive. I'm neither blind nor stupid, I know when I've hit someone, thank you.

You don't? Oh NO!!!

its not Counter Strike. without hit markers we wont be able to tell if it was a hit or server just lagged

you hope :D

still not sure what an NPC or three with railguns will do to an A2 though

Honestly no matter what CIG do, there will be some area to complain about. Last year the issue was there were too few ISC's. Now CIG is pumping out ISC's nearly every week w almost no breaks and there is something new to complain about 😂 Just yesterday, all the complaints were like "3.24 wont ship by September!" Now its "4.0 wont get in PTU in september!" And so on ad nauseum

​@@TheWasd1234 Yeah, it's almost like CIG set expectations far higher than they could deliver and backers are tired of the bullshit.

@@Cplblue yea ikr its crazy how that works.

@@TheWasd1234pretty sure the ISC schedule is the same

Try waiting 12 for the game.

freaky citizen lmao

Ay yo?

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Is this some kind of reference? Please explain.

@@insomniacultit’s when you’ll get freaky in star citizen

We just need to accept CIG lied to us early on, and wont admit it now because they want more money. In the past they sold us on amazing game play loops. Fast forward to today anyone doing any of those fun gameplay loops are just content for the kill them all crowd. CIG has lost its way.

Not just a broken FPS, it's a broken game. Nothing is functional

I agree. It's just rolling from one PVP map to the next.

But wait, there is also non hostile gameplay, like shooting at rocks, shooting at scrap metal, shooting a healing beam at people or shooting a repair beam at broken devices!

SC has never been advertised as a mmo rpg....

@@raptorkysen177 im not too familiar with the words but i think a "massive multiplayer online roleplaying game" is the exact description of what SC was advertised as

@@vliedtke no SC is advertised as a living breathing first person universe ; it's not a rôle playing game;

only because you cant be an Ork. Its still all meat and hooks

So true...

bro youre too salty lmao just be happy he was clearly having a laugh, learn to laugh more.

They're going to have to implement some system to tame this. Pyros going to a Gankers Paradise.

​​@@BearanormalPodcastyeah, because it's so funny to get killed while beeing stuck in some clunky inventory screen or shopping kiosk.

@@oO0Xenos0Oo pretty funny ya especially for the person that isnt at the terminal but its getting terminaled. Lol Get rekt. Oh no you gotta go back to the station oh you're so inconvenienced. Lmao maybe don't solo in a system that's heavy on group play. It's pretty funny learn to laugh more.

Fur missile

No. we shouldn't. Stop with they crying "they get it, we should" stupid stuff.

Sorta, if CoD had little to no basic functions you'd expect in a game, every patch contains broken promises and features, and the game was just a gankfest actively supported by dev's who brag about how they've decorated their office area in a ganker motif - then yes, it would be just like that version of CoD.

On 1 side they see snarky YT vids and comments - on the other side they break their player count and funding records EVERY single year.. which rings louder?

@hawkzulu5671 not doing so hot this year.

@@louhodo5761 what year did they 'do hot'?

LOL

3.24.1 when?

4.0? End of 2026 😂

Sometime late 2025 / early 2026 🤣

Buy 20 more ships, and then they’ll give you more info

No, a Spaceship game was what was promised to Kickstarter patrons. That was over a decade ago. This is just feature bloat in tandem with their bloated bank acc.

Nah.

We'd need a fun flight model for that...

It's not a spaceship game either so what's your argument exactly?

its never been purely a "spaceship game".. perhaps you are thinking of the other game, the one where you can't walk around your ships and can't get out

And I hate the rusted and delapitated places.

@@lanfeared they're all boring anyway. Cig makes it sound as if they're so interesting.

@rixxy9204 I'm not having a go at CIG i just expected after 2 years of development we would have got some new things

they talked about not being able to pilot a ship while wearing armor. i realy hope that gets implemented soon.. im already tired of the fact that everyone always wears max equipment with no drawbacks... remove the sprint completely for heavy armor, just fast walking.

This is already planned they just haven't done it yet like pretty much every other feature they promised lol

@@LashlayDS9 I think that'd maybe be good for heavy armour but I think for light armour you should be able to pilot a ship

2 more years? It always has been…

tbh, i dont even care anymore.. lost the ability to be hyped for anything around this game.. its sad.

We learned that more 4.0 delays are very bad PR.

We learned that for many months we will only see videos of the road to Pyro since there are no deadlines.

A succulent 4.0 update?!

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