In this episode we're talking about two images of New Jersey inside her Captain's Cabin. To send Ryan a message on Facebook: / ryanszimanski To support this channel and Battleship New Jersey, go to: www.battleshipnewjersey.org/v...
🤔 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that early photo of Nimitz and Halsey was taken BEFORE the ban on advertisements for tobacco products, and this was actually a 1945 "Field & Stream" magazine ad for "Marlboro Menthols". Or it was just a wartime photo of an important meeting of top naval leaders. One or the other.....
@@michaelsommers2356 bro he ends literally every video with "Battleship New Jersey receives operating support from the New Jersey Department of State" so... yeah they kinda do
Radio receiver in the WW2 photo appears to be an E. H. Scott Model RBO. Scott was a manufacturer of very expensive and high quality broadcast radio receivers in the 1930s and 1940s. The RBO was probably the most widely used ships entertainment receiver installed on Navy ships in WW2. New Jersey probably had several of them located in such places as the wardroom, goat locker, and mess spaces. Scott manufactured several different models of ships entertainment receivers during the war for the Navy. They also produced the Model SLR-12 main communications receivers used on Liberty and Victory ships, After the war, a large number of the Scott military receivers were sold on the surplus market.
You could probably get more pictures from the families of the past captains during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam or the captains themselves who are still living.
Nimitz said no such thing. It was standard code padding taken from a novel. The decoder didn't recognize it as filler ("Where is Task Force NN? The World Wonders" - an understandable confusion). But that's all it was, Nimitz's actual message wasn't offensive.
@@donbaccus2074 "All the world wonders" is from Tennyson's poem "The Charge of the Light Brigade, innit? "When can their glory fade? O the wild charge they made! All the world wondered. Honour the charge they made! Honour the Light Brigade, Noble six hundred!"
In Ryan's video, if you look at the upper left corner of the silver cabinet, you will see a welded bead circle in the bulkhead about a foot in diameter. That appears to be the ghost of a vent pipe that passed through that same bulkhead in the WWII photo. It was probably removed when the ship got air conditioning later in life. Also, there is a drain line in the overhead of the modern video that isn't there in the WWII photo. I wonder what is directly above this space that needed a drain line added.
Most photos in the 1940s were big and high-resolution -- almost every professional photo, from daily newspapers on up, was shot on a single sheet of film likely bigger than your phone screen -- take a standard sheet of paper and fold it in half both ways. That was one frame of film then. Also, I'm pretty sure that was shot with a flashbulb just to the right of frame. Long exposure, yes, hence the ghost, but note how the light tubes themselves are casting shadows on the ceiling. (I have used a 4x5 Speed Graphic and its accessories, and have been a professional photographer from the beginning of the DSLR era, I can see the lighting in a scene, and it's not those overhead fixtures lighting that photo.)
I noticed the same items as you. Ive been a photographer and photo lab manager much of my life. Shot lots of 120/220 film. High resolution sheet film and flashbulbs for lighting are key items here.
Also, a flashbulb, in that space, would be about twice as bright as the sun outside on a clear day. So out in the sun it's shutter 1/[ISO film speed] and aperture f/8, most flashbulbs I've used needed f/16 within that amount of space (square-cube law and all that, the light falls off at a distance, but I'd close my eyes when firing a flashbulb in a room that small.)
What you called a 'high precision camera', was most likely a Speed-Graphic or view-camera shooting 4" by 5" film. The lens could be stopped down to F45, which yields an incredible depth of field. Hence it's high definition, everything is in focus, with an exposure up to five seconds. The film was fine grain Plus-x or about asa 100.
@@adamdejesus4017 disagree. IF ship is listing - Ryan is listing at same angle as ship. Why as pan out - then pan back in at 1:40 - NOT centered on Ryan, viewer might have perception of center frame is the caller waiting on Line 2.
It's awesome to see these few photos . I think they are on the internet as I recall seeing Nimitz and Halsey together like this . I have a few very old books from after the war with many photos taken during the WWII like this . They belonged to my inlaws and include Axis and Allied commanders photographs. Just think everything was relatively still fresh . How magnificent it must have been to see New Jersey then .
Hi Ryan thanks for another great "1000 words". I love them and all parts of the ship are very interesting. I've been looking at the desk in the photo and the one you have now. It looks like the WW2 desk has 3 drawers each side and now you have 2. Of course there aern't complete views of either but is it worth looking at the felt side of the desk you have now for comparison? Interseting to see Nimitz and Hallsey. Nimitz does look a bit like Fonda (film Midway).
So cool - as an enlisted - got called to the Flag spaces aboard USS Kitty Hawk a few times - for the BattleGroup Commander - dropping off messages from the OX Division (which was serving as his Operations instead of ASW).
The curtains were probably for privacy without having to dog and undog the doors/scuttles when moving about during normal ops. The door/ scuttle would probably be closed during classified meetings, Captain’s Mast proceedings etc..
Yeah, at first I thought they were to block light getting outside the ship at night but with wooden doors, they obviously are fully indoor rooms so it’s more for easy privacy.
Can you do a video of the hierarchy of who is who. Like admiral, captain, etc and what their role is for us non military types. Maybe relate it to the civilian world like CEO, owner, etc…
In the event Ryan doesnt do such a video I'll toss in my 2 cents. The Owner would equate to the Commander in Chief, the President. Then the Admirals' Admirals command groups of ships with the senior admiral, in this case Nimitz commanding all ships in the Pacific. Under him were Halsey and Spruance commanding fleets and other them many other admirals commanding smaller groups or types of ships for example Carrier groups or Battleship groups. Then Captains; Captains command larger ships or groups of smaller ships such as several destroyers. Also the term Captain can refer to either the rank of Captain or the title of any officer commanding a vessel. So a ships captain can be a Captain or an officer of a lower rank roughly based on the size of a ship. A very small ship such as a sea going tugboat may have a Lieutenant in command while an aircraft carrier or battleship would have a well experienced Captain in command. This is a general idea as there can be subtle variations and exceptions.
When you mentioned the radio, I realized I had been thinking "Microwave"!!LOL!!! I wonder why they never installed any kind of drop ceiling in that room?
Lampshade is probably still in shock after Nimitz explained a "few fats of life" to Halsey - no matter hard Ryan & Libby try to straighten it, it always retreats to an angle.
I notice one thing next to you in the commentary. It hits me right in my calibrated eye. The lamp shade id crooked! The WW II era steel framed furniture should be available, if nowhere else in an antique store. I've seen a lot of that style chair over the past few years.
I would the doors in the captains and admirals quarters are lightweight intentionally so the important people are killing themselves opening and closing them. As I remember when I visited the ship, some of the thickest armor is around these rooms and are pretty high up so don’t need to worry about flooding.
Wonder if inside pictures get archived in some classified location, as you don't want the enemy to see what's inside. It's harder to hide the outside, as anyone looking at it can see what it's like and what's on it. Insides, what equipment are installed, where everything is, etc. is info I can totally see being classified for as long as the ships and the equipment in them is being fielded.
Noticed: Curtains in front of the portholes. Document holders next to starboard exit. Location of the light switches, can't see them, maybe outside the compartment? p.s. The picture frame might have been glass topped menu holder, or for other information (grease pencil). To people visiting or people looking for the captain. (akin leaving a sticky note)
Sorry to break it to you Mr. Personality but Bull Halsey died of a heart attack, Chester Nimitz died in the aftermath of a stroke complicated by pneumonia. Not lung cancer. Ray Spruance didn't smoke.
The silver pieces in the picture could have also belonged to who ever was occupying that cabin at that time. Silver tea sets and picture frames where all the rage in the 30's and 40's.
This is the Captains in port cabin. A battleship commanding officer is a very high ranking officer compared to someone in charge of a liberty ship, destroyer etc and so would be expected to hold meetings and meals to VIP's when at shore. Hence a large in port cabin. However the CO sea cabin is quite small and is located close to the bridge and he/she will either be in that space or on the bridge when at sea.
I'm guessing that the first picture was taken shortly after typhoon Cobra, and Nimitz looks pissed, he never let the record reflect how angry he was at Halsey's actions during the storm. King never forgave Halsey after typhoon Connie the following year. Intercepting two Typhoons....
I don’t see any battle lanterns in the Builder’s Photo, nor in the reconstructed space. I realize that this is the In Port Cabin, but it could still be used while underway. So, I’m surprised that it does not have battle lanterns for emergency egress.
The captains cabin in a submarine would barely have room for those chairs and table alone. During the day, his rack flips up against the wall to open up the space a bit. I only ever worked on submarines. The space and comforts of a large surface ship seem absurd. Like it’s a luxury liner. Look at how much room that is. Would have been quite an experience to command a battleship. Lucky men.
Probably because they would have large planning meetings and VIP plus diplomatic functions in port during peacetime. Probably has the odd senator or governor served as well. Might be set up as an impromptu shipboard court for disciplinary hearings as well? I wonder how many important decisions about wartime strategy were made in this room?
It is true. Even on my last ship in the USCG, the CO's cabin was relatively huge for a 378' ship. I would guess it was 2-3 times the size of the four man berthing area I was in, and I was in the only enlisted berthing that was that small (besides CPO berthing). And yes, having stood on the green carpet myself during my own Captains Mast, that space is used for disciplinary hearings 🤣
I don’t know or think that was photo shopped of Parson in that photo. Well I was visiting the USS Alabama, I was walking down port side, I heard someone running behind me and saw an officer. I was the only one on the deck of the mess area. Just before that, an officer was running the kids to there parents. After that, painters cam in.
If you watch one of my shorts of me on the back of the ship. I had just gotten there and it was like 90-95F and chilly back there. But it felt great walking through the ship on that cold steel.
@@cruisinguy6024 Ryan and crew put out a steady stream of wonderful video's, sorry I missed that one. I was wondering if they could be or were consulted on the Captains cabin?
Being as each ships Captain is allowed to remodel their personnel space and re-designate certain spaces on the ship within limits, it wouldn't surprise me if that space was remodeled to different configurations a dozen times over the years.
Is it a rule you created to try hard to make all rooms period correct for its condition as it was in its last official service, as opposed to 1944 or other times in its service life?