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Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Dodge WC-51 

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[Update: Sold for $34,500] Yet another from this first salvo from Rock Island Auction Company, the surprisingly unknown Dodge Weapons Carrier. This vehicle has been updated with disk brakes vice the original drums, I didn't catch that at the time.

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@robertlee9395
@robertlee9395 6 лет назад
Those spare tires caught a lot of bullets and saved a lot of lives, enabling the drivers to carry out their missions. That saved more lives. That was no inconvenience, that was good engineering by Dodge.
@justforever96
@justforever96 2 года назад
Who isdriving a WC where people are shooting at them?
@Hachaimenesch
@Hachaimenesch 2 года назад
@@justforever96 soldiers tend to do such things and certainly not because they like to get shot at.
@kevanrice2971
@kevanrice2971 Год назад
@@justforever96 mlne had bulet wholes init nam left over after we pulled outhell our fuel truck was a half tracky uncle suported anything marine cor florida gators
@kevanrice2971
@kevanrice2971 Год назад
i always wanted to drop a 340 suped up in mine its still alive sits in eg ina 5 acre yard we had
@LegendStormcrow
@LegendStormcrow Год назад
​@@justforever96If the enemy is any kind of capable, anyone driving a WC.
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 6 лет назад
Military vehicles don't need safety features, soldiers carry all they need for safety with them at all times. Their PT belt. It will protect you from everything. How you may ask? Because for EVERYTHING that has ever gone wrong in a military anywhere, one of the first questions asked is "Was he wearing his PT belt?"
@c3aloha
@c3aloha 6 лет назад
Eks calybur Some bases require drivers of tactical vehicles to wear flak and helmet thinking it’ll reduce injury in accident. I finally convinced commander to let drivers not wear them because I thought visibility and mobility in the cab were more important. Especially driving on Japanese roads with little K cars.
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 6 лет назад
I'm well aware of it. When I was driving tactical vehicles, even just around the motorpool, I had to wear my ACH and IBA. Given that, anyone caught driving without their PT belt caught all kinds of hell.
@CheechNoChong-mb6wp
@CheechNoChong-mb6wp 5 лет назад
Love the “safety feature.” Too bad The Chieftain didn’t demonstrate how to increase the tension on that belt.
@DrLoverLover
@DrLoverLover 3 года назад
Soldiers are expendable. Trucks are not.
@Crashryding
@Crashryding 3 года назад
😂😂👌🏼
@adanzavala4801
@adanzavala4801 6 лет назад
HOLY SHIT! not only tanks, but vehicles too?! this channel has a bright future. Still waiting for that Chieftain X Gun Jesus ultimate crossover.
@waltherr2331
@waltherr2331 6 лет назад
Aren't we all?
@TallifTallonbrook
@TallifTallonbrook 6 лет назад
next week planes. Start with the A-10 it is basically a tank with wings.
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 6 лет назад
Apparently, they were at RIA at different times and didn't run into each other. I hope they will be able to do a collaboration as well, but I get the feeling it would take a while to set up (Both of these Gentlemen being rather Globe Trotting, as it is).
@jamescameron2490
@jamescameron2490 5 лет назад
My dad drove a WC-51 in Iran, during WW2, delivering mail for an Army Post Office in the Persian Gulf Command. Weapons carriers were used for all sorts of jobs.
@TheBetterManInBlack
@TheBetterManInBlack 6 лет назад
In the '40s and '50s, trucks with enclosed, 1 compartment rear sections were called carryalls, where the same vehicles on car chassis were called station wagons. If you wanted to get serious about it, carryalls technically had windows in the back, like station wagons, whereas the ones without windows in truck form were called delivery vans, whereas the windowless cars were called sedan deliveries. Regarding assploding split rims, I had an acquaintance from Kentucky while I was in the Army in the '70s. We were still running split rims. To properly reinflate them after the rim and tube were replaced, they were supposed to be placed in a heavy cage, which you were not supposed to put your arms or hands inside of. Ol' Kentuck ignored that last bit one morning, and when the rim let go, it broke his arm right in half.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Easy way to ensure saftey when handaling split rims is to take the valve out of the tyre, and put it in your pocket! After many moons the two halves, which slide onto one another can rust and stick, which makes life difficult. The bolt system is a lot safer than the old C Clip system as you can see they are either on properly or not. This can also be used to cure the rusting problem. Whta I od is deflate tyre , taking out valve loosen all the retaining bolts. Put wheel out in the midle of a field, get long long air hose, tie down head trigger, fasten to tyre nozzle, BUT DO NOT PUT VALVE IN. Then from far away start compressor, pump till parts slide apart. Take air hose out of compressor and let tyre deflate before going anywhere near it. Re assembly includes plenty of copper splip bettween wheel halves.
@pedror598
@pedror598 6 лет назад
this guy trucks
@jballew2239
@jballew2239 6 лет назад
The rad cap access was important, because even though it is a pressurized system, it is not like what we are used to now. There is no recovery tank, and use in other than very mild conditions would result in coolant loss. Making it easy to top off the coolant was a good thing. The "jerrycan" on the passenger side with the unusually large opening is in fact, the water can. (Finding one that has not been at one time or another, filled with gasoline, is a rare thing). The wheels on this example are "Combat Wheels" , and were intended to be easier to deal with in the field, especially when the heavy self sealing/bullet resistant tire/tube combo was fitted. While being the same size as the lock ring style of wheel used on the M37 they are mechanically and functionally a bit different. It's not at all unusual to find examples of the WC out in the wild, fitted with the far easier to manage lock ring style split-rim. It is possible to speedmatch /clutchless shift the WC , but it takes a lot of practice. As you mentioned double-declutching is recommended. (Also, when going from First to Reverse, or Neutral to Reverse one may find it easier to slip it into second, let the clutch out a touch, then slip it into reverse for a "grind free" experience.).
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
The tyres are NDC, Non Directional Combat, you don't know if it is coming or going. Downside in wet weather on tarmac they are a nightmare. I have semi off road truck tyres fitted to mine as I take them all over England and Europe. Mine are a WC51 and a WC54 by the way.
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 6 лет назад
I was going to write the very same about the expand-to-ground coolant system.
@kyleh3615
@kyleh3615 4 года назад
@@51WCDodge just reaching out as I'm looking at buying a WC 51 myself, where do you find the proper NDT tires/tyres?
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 года назад
@@kyleh3615 There very difficult to find now. You can get some at excorbitant proce, but they are chinese agricultural, and at least in Europe and UK not road rated. Also on NDT any damp on the road , and it becomes highly exciting. What I have done on my 51 as it does play off road, wa sto use M&S truck tyres of the 9.00 x16. On the WC54 , which is a Lady and mostly is driven sedatley. jut plain truck 9.00 x 16. As the vehicles use split rims, and good luck with those if they have been on for 20 plus years! the bead dosen't seem to be a practical problem, though they are tubed tyres. If you can't get new tyre rim gaurds, cut the old tubes to line bettween the tube, rim and tyre. They are a fun vehicle to drive, I've had mine twenty years this years, she has been around UK , Europe and to Jersey which is where I come from. One downside. The front canvas fits over the back canvas, which can collect water. Brake and you get a lapful. I got round this delighful habit by fitine pices of plastic board, used in advertising signs over the wooden frame. Also helps the canvas as the wet dosent stay. Hope this helps. Try the Historic Military Vehicle Forum as well, you will get lots of help from us there.
@kyleh3615
@kyleh3615 4 года назад
@@51WCDodge thanka for the reply, I plan on doing it up for reenacting so id like to go with proper tires eventually As far as I know, NDT tires are okay in the US since I see so many jeep amd other collectors going around with NDTs
@Gamer_1745
@Gamer_1745 6 лет назад
It was interesting. I am glad you are doing these, not as exciting as tanks, but good info on WW II support vehicles.
@TheWareek
@TheWareek 6 лет назад
have to agree with you there are any number of videos about tanks (please NOT Another one about the Sherman) so it is great to see them about the other vehicles that mad an army work >
@mavrik104
@mavrik104 6 лет назад
@John Douglass but he hasn't covered the amphibious variant yet, Or this one, or this one, or even this one :P
@Gamer_1745
@Gamer_1745 6 лет назад
If he has anything to say on Shermans or anything else I would be glad to hear it.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 6 лет назад
Agreed on the spotlight of support vehicles. A tank is a great thing to have, but if it cannot stay supplied it is useless. The US was at the forefront of of the modern mechanical supply chain and that story doesn't get enough coverage.
@MrDgwphotos
@MrDgwphotos 6 лет назад
The US Army was one of the few armies of the time to be fully mechanized, and vehicles like this made that possible.
@Washer_Buffalo
@Washer_Buffalo 6 лет назад
“I just wish my Audi was like that” #cheiftanhumblebrag
@clothar23
@clothar23 6 лет назад
Audi is your benchmark of luxury ? Most people usually go from Porsche and up.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 6 лет назад
clothar23 He has mentioned that Wargaming are very generous in their salary and considering how little money is clearly spent on the game development, it has to go to someone; at least the Chieftain earns his keep unlike many!
@trr94001
@trr94001 6 лет назад
Audi is, I believe, the brand where some new cars don’t even have an oil drainage plug. To change the oil you have to go to the dealer where they suck the oil out through the filler cap. Uncool.
@trr94001
@trr94001 6 лет назад
No, crap, I had it backwards. There’s no filler or dipstick and new oil is injected up through the filter, so you can’t even really check your oil.
@Braeden123698745
@Braeden123698745 6 лет назад
@@clothar23 I take it you don't drive a Daewoo.
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 6 лет назад
My grandfather remembers these in the motor pools of Italy. They seem like very handy vehicles with good maintenance access, reliability, and really everything you could want in an army truck.
@oscarjosefsson9300
@oscarjosefsson9300 2 года назад
It makes me happy to see a vehicle this old in such nice condition. It looks good too! 😊
@rudyossanchez
@rudyossanchez 6 лет назад
How do tension the tracks?
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 6 лет назад
There's a hidden bolt behind the fifth road wheel. Same as the BT-2.
@catfish552
@catfish552 6 лет назад
With an air compressor.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
That beast is Ex Norwegian as shown by freewheel hubs. The tools are actually set up in the European manner, the US standard was outside tailgate, which means it can't drop all the way. Feild mods included putting rack on plate behind pasenger seat . Though they are early pattern seats. First gear is a crawler, far easier to start under most conditions in 2nd, There are 2 types of light switch a twist and a push. My 12 volt 51 has the push, the 6 volt 54 the twist. When topless and windscreen dropped the only type of vehicle lower than a Dodge was a Jeep. Dodge claimed the ground presure of the vehicles wa sthe same as a Camel. The standard brake are perfectly adequate, if you adjust them properly by the manual! They are vehicles you are expected to maintain, and they are made to check and maintain. Except the brake master cylinder, Dodge had a very off day when they decided to mount it behind the sterring coloum! Though a remote resovoir is easy enough to cobble up.
@Jacek_Telejko
@Jacek_Telejko 6 лет назад
Is it inside the hatch if there's no hatch to go inside of? :D
@tahunkwai5979
@tahunkwai5979 6 лет назад
No it called "on the seat" when it's car's/Trucks
@FokkerBoombass
@FokkerBoombass 6 лет назад
@@tahunkwai5979 as if tanks didn't have seats. Inside the chieftain's door?...
@jasperb9233
@jasperb9233 6 лет назад
FokkerBoombass But tank hatches are often referred to as doors too...
@JackG79
@JackG79 6 лет назад
On this episode of... "On rubber tires" with the chiefton!!
@OneThiccSamurai-vn5se
@OneThiccSamurai-vn5se 6 лет назад
*Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm*
@qunt2742
@qunt2742 6 лет назад
For anyone curious about the videos of the tire exploding, you're looking for videos of split rim tires exploding to be exact.
@GrumpyIan
@GrumpyIan 6 лет назад
thanks
@windtalkersblah
@windtalkersblah 6 лет назад
Not all heroes wear capes!
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 года назад
Not on these as the split rim is two halves bolted together with 12 nuts.
@brandonwalker272
@brandonwalker272 6 лет назад
I am really enjoying this slight detour into Rock Island. Interesting to see other vehicles that support the needs of the troops.
@reedvending2384
@reedvending2384 6 лет назад
I demand a o bugger the [_______]'s on fire.... lol
@taradhar3200
@taradhar3200 5 лет назад
reed vending LoL 🤣🤣🤣
@justforever96
@justforever96 2 года назад
On double declutching, when downshifting (the only time you really need to bother at all) you need to use the gas pedal when in neutral to speed the input shaft up to match the gear ratios to the next gear. Just putting it into neutral and letting off the clutch wont do anything but put the transmission to idle speed.
@waltherr2331
@waltherr2331 6 лет назад
Oooh, *Military Vehicles and Weapons Jesus* Strikes again at the Rock Island Auction Company.
@tahunkwai5979
@tahunkwai5979 6 лет назад
Where can I buy this so-called 4X4 off-road sedan? Edit1: there are not 4 tires there are 5 Edit2: there videos of tire changing fails of this rim type and you did link them in the description!
@angeloc1340
@angeloc1340 6 лет назад
Lol i was about to say that there 5th tire was right behind him lol
@jasonirwin4631
@jasonirwin4631 6 лет назад
If want the 4x4 off road sedan good luck Few of them where made mostly due to the fact that you could put a leather cover on a Jeep and get the same effect. I would try Google to find one.
@lhkraut
@lhkraut 6 лет назад
Is it me or does anyone else not understand what you are saying? It is a 4x4, the fifth wheel is a spare.
@tahunkwai5979
@tahunkwai5979 6 лет назад
@@lhkraut -_- I was making a joke
@BillyMartin4Life
@BillyMartin4Life 6 лет назад
THERE. ARE. FOUR WHEELS! I'll show myself out now ;)
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 6 лет назад
What a beautiful, simple, and elegant truck. 90 HP, and I will bet you this thing would go into more places than most of today's $70K "lifestyle" trucks.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
They do! And you get a lot of smiles and waves from other road users, the kid's eyes go out on stalks.
@drcovell
@drcovell 5 лет назад
probably go straight up a tree in low gear! ;-)
@francissullivan6400
@francissullivan6400 4 года назад
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT..id pay 50k For a RUGGED ,RELIABLE truck like this with NO radios,SUNROOF,POWER WINDOWS .BUT I'm only 1 consumer
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 3 года назад
@@francissullivan6400 you can literally do that. dont complain when you havent looked hard enough. also why not get all the stuff like the radio, sunroof, power windows and shit? it barely adds to the cost, and if ya dont wanna use it dont. i guarantee the only cars you used with those things broken is cuz somebody treated em like shit. plenty of cars these days are fuckin great, and easy to repair. they just arent pieces of shit like yall had in the old days. Learn how to work on modern cars.
@QurttoRco
@QurttoRco Год назад
Surs aslong as the place you need to go isnt highway 😂
@lorinwingtips5290
@lorinwingtips5290 6 лет назад
No "Oh No, the truck is on fire"?:(
@non-prolific135thscalemode7
@non-prolific135thscalemode7 5 лет назад
This video is invaluable for scale modelers. It's not only the great detail close ups but also the explanations you give. There aren't enough vids like this on "soft skins" and I hope you'll do more of them. Off to watch your video on the M3 scout car now. Thanks for posting.
@oldschoolgreentube
@oldschoolgreentube 6 лет назад
Standard transmission. Millenial anti-theft device.
@stuartcoyle1626
@stuartcoyle1626 6 лет назад
Non-synchromesh transmission. Generation X anti-theft device.
@oldschoolgreentube
@oldschoolgreentube 6 лет назад
touche
@gregoryclark8217
@gregoryclark8217 6 лет назад
I went to my Y11 prom in one of these, with the soft roof on. The drivers even wore US army uniforms, it was great.
@HerrGausF
@HerrGausF 6 лет назад
Saw a couple dozen of these in Normandy this year. Amazing vehicles, too bad the Jeep takes all the glory.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Jeeps posed for pictures, Dodges were to busy working.
@SootHead
@SootHead 6 лет назад
Dodge actually proposed the 3/4 ton upgrade not long before the half-ton design was standardized.There was something like 80% parts carryover between them. Radiator cap relocation was more a product of the lowered hood profile versus the half-tons than anything else.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 6 лет назад
I can picture a manager telling his designer to throw an extra leafspring into the rear of the 1/2 ton, crossing off the name on the manual/nameplate, replacing it with 3/4 ton, and calling it good.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
There is a lot more to the vehicle than just that. Lower centre of gravity, half ton had a tendency to tip, wider tarck for more stability, the WC54 ambulance version and later KD64 had a slightly longer wheel base and looser springs. I have a WC51 and a WC54, both, especially the WC51, is much nicer to driver than any British WW2 vehicle and is more comfortable than a Series Land Rover. You just have to plan taking your time to get anywhere, but you do get to enjoy the view.
@K1W1fly
@K1W1fly 6 лет назад
Maybe it could tow a 40mm Bofors AA gun... If only there was someone who could do a video on that.... Gun Jesus perhaps?
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
They will easily. If you want real fun tow a twenty five pounder and limber with one. Fifty odd feet of double articulate tow.
@HSMiyamoto
@HSMiyamoto 6 лет назад
America built great trucks in WWII. I understand that even Soviets appreciated the quality, reliability, and versatility of American trucks. Meanwhile, Hans and Fritz were lucky to ride in a horse drawn wagon.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Russia used a lot of Dodges and cloned the T214 engine.
@BAZZAROU812
@BAZZAROU812 6 лет назад
No power steering or brakes.. Makes for a long drive in off road conditions..
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Actuall they are very easy off road and prevent embarresmet. I had a full load on my WC51 on Gold Beach in Normandy and didn't follow the golden rule, stay in the tracks you have made you know it is solid. In she went up to front hubs. I engaged reverse, still 2 x 4 and she backed out easily leaving my dignity intacted.
@leepalmer1210
@leepalmer1210 6 лет назад
Bet this would tow or mount that bofors gun just perfect!
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Yes, done that, also regulary tow a twenty five pounder and limber. That's fun as it is a double articulated tow about fifty feet long and the limber brakes the gun, which is one and half tons, with no brakes. Actually the Dodge tows it better than the dedicated Morris Quad designed for it. Though as I have about three times the horsepower of a Quad, not suprising really.
@Danspy501st
@Danspy501st 6 лет назад
"This thing is gonna be shot out at incredible warp factors" I need that quote on a painting or something like that XD What is the warp factor then? 5.4 or 9.0? XP
@iberiksoderblom
@iberiksoderblom 4 года назад
Was given one, because we kept breaking the modern MAN's. The Dodge prooved to be indestructible...
@UnintentionalSubmarine
@UnintentionalSubmarine 6 лет назад
My father had one of these as a command/recon/light utility vehicle when he was in the army. And he loved it. Called it his 'big Jeep' and whenever I ask him about it his eyes light up. Seeing it like this I can sort of see why he liked it. Not too big, but not exactly small either, so driving it offroad must at the time have been a positive experience compared to the competition.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Still a very positive experience off road. You run out of nerve long before they run out of abaility.
@UnintentionalSubmarine
@UnintentionalSubmarine 6 лет назад
Fitting name. :)
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Well both mine have a touch of Norwegian :-)
@theshocker4626
@theshocker4626 6 лет назад
I find your indecipherable accent interesting.
@wbertie2604
@wbertie2604 6 лет назад
Maybe a divergence, but the clothing that tankers or other crew wore might be worth looking at. Getting out of the theoretical burning tank might be complicated by some of the cold weather tanker gear, for example, and fitting in some of the crew positions whilst wearing tank crew helmets might get more challenging. I once failed to exit a jeep due to getting stuff snagged in the U-shaped channel around the edge. I wonder what other vehicles have pitfalls for anyone wearing anything other than the most basic of uniform and external gear?
@noremorsewoodworking2258
@noremorsewoodworking2258 5 лет назад
Try getting out of an old M113, while wearing modern body armor and load carrying equipment PLUS carrying your rifle, an AT4 and your day-pack, at the same time as the rest of your squad are trying to dismount in a hurry. Suddenly that big, wide ramp becomes a bit of a tight squeeze, particularly if you are dismounting under fire, as everybody will tend to want to stay right behind the vehicle.
@ARCNA442
@ARCNA442 6 лет назад
What are the four handles? on the outer sides of the bed for? Tie down points?
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
They tie down the ropes to secure the canvas hood, which is two pice with the front overlapping the back. In wet weather the water pools in a dip on the rear section so if brakes are applied firmly...... All Dodge owners will know exactaly what I mean!
@mkms685
@mkms685 3 года назад
Nobody: "The Chieftain" to those 80% of the Americans who don't know how to drive in manual transmission: "What's wrong with you?!"
@fredmanicke5078
@fredmanicke5078 4 года назад
Well, someone paid a lot for a used truck, dented hood, brush guard tines bent, the instruments in the dash all are crooked. The tire rims are bead locked style used for sand and soft ground, not the split rims that if you are not careful putting it together right will pop the ring. Typical used car dealer....slap some paint on it and claimed it is restored. WC is not Weapon Carrier but W= 1941 model year and cargo capacity....similarly my army truck is VF 404--1940 1 1/2 ton cargo, short wheel base.
@samholdsworth3957
@samholdsworth3957 6 лет назад
I can drive a manual transmission! Lol
@jkeener3323
@jkeener3323 6 лет назад
200,000 made. This little truck helped win the war.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Several in fact.
@charliedelachapelle3949
@charliedelachapelle3949 3 года назад
Worth noting, when Stalin was asked what won the war against the Germans he replied: Dodge trucks. We gave them some as well as plans so they could build them. A very important piece of equipment in history.
@MGBauer
@MGBauer 3 года назад
Fun fact about automatic vs manual transmission: I work for the fire department of one of Germanys major cities, and have been driving manual transmission cars for 20 years. although automatic is quite unpopular in Europe, all cars, trucks, rolling stock we use is automatic. It's much safer in stressful situations not having to deal with shifting gears. Driving different fire dept cars for 2 years now I notice I have to remind myself constantly to shift when driving manual transmission. So yes, I guess the next car I buy will be automatic too. 😂
@white0devil0
@white0devil0 6 лет назад
WHERE IS YOUR EPIC BATTLE WITH IAN OF FORGOTTEN WEAPONS!?
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 6 лет назад
13:56 I like the built-in cutting board
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Originally a map board. Dodge were very advanced, the Ambulance even had wind down windows and opening quarter lights!
@KPearce57
@KPearce57 5 лет назад
It's a laptop table!
@antona.4572
@antona.4572 3 года назад
That's what Hummer's grandpa looked like!
@JansenX12
@JansenX12 4 года назад
Americans best Anti-Theft Device: The Manuel Transmission :D
@francissullivan6400
@francissullivan6400 4 года назад
That is A REAL PICK UP TRUCK..not a ford f350 ram 2500
@GeneralJackRipper
@GeneralJackRipper 6 лет назад
Is it a bird? A plane? NO! It's SUPER-JEEP!
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
DON'T mention the J word! Dodge owners and those that own, -the other things-, have VERY strong opinions about each other!
@GeneralJackRipper
@GeneralJackRipper 6 лет назад
You're just mad Ford got the Jeep contract. ;)
@ВикторКовалев-с5ч
@ВикторКовалев-с5ч 3 года назад
Додж 3/4, знакомый автомобиль.
@unklebobosaurus
@unklebobosaurus 5 лет назад
Excellent job Chieftain, good to see you finally do vehicles you can easily get in and out of; and I'm already a fan of Rock Island from the small arms videos - terrific mix!
@scottgs123
@scottgs123 4 года назад
A few observations: You would never do a compression test with the hand-crank; you completely missed the point of the bead-lock rims and how they work - a very important aspect of this vehicle and why there are all of those nuts around the rim perimeter; there are post-war after market lockout hubs - you'd never have those on a military vehicle; in spite of what was said, access to the starter motor is difficult on the WC trucks (see my previous comment); and, there is a lot not original on this vehicle, including the lights, the tail-lights (the original ones are completely missing), modern front disk brakes, lockout hubs, a metal bed pan (originals were wood), and a few other items. This is not an especially good example of an original WC.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 года назад
Fair enough, duly noted. I'll see if I can find a more original WC at some point.
@autophyte
@autophyte 4 года назад
The steering is unbelievably heavy. I recently drove a friend's Dodge WC. When you have to change down and turn a corner at the same time , you lose all speed trying to wrench the wheel round and at the same time double clutch and get the gear lever into a lower gear. I ended up coasting to a stop trying, then had to select first gear and start off all over again., much to the chagrin of motorists behind me. The brakes ought to be vacuum boosted. They are also super heavy, used to slow you down, not stop quickly. I think this is why they have a very heavy front bumper and spring steel bumperettes on the back- so in convoy, drivers could just bump into each other to stop with no damage. Fun vehicle, though.
@josephlansberry737
@josephlansberry737 Год назад
In the early 40’s power braking and power steering were the last things a military vehicle needed. Young drivers weren’t spoiled in those days. For a military vehicle it was just something else to fix. I know because I was a vehicle I was one of those guys in the very early 50s.
@grochomarx2002
@grochomarx2002 3 года назад
Trucks and staff cars are just as important as tanks.
@sandraanderson311
@sandraanderson311 6 лет назад
can you do the Panzer lV please????? there is only one on the internet and its not as detailed as your videos.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 6 лет назад
Actually, I have filmed one. It's in the queue awaiting editing.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 6 лет назад
Love these videos of the more "mundane" wheeled vehicles that won the war by moving troops, supplies, and equipment around the battlefield and from the rear. On thing though, didn't this vehicle also have manual locking front hubs or did they have automatic ones by this point? I noticed it was not mentioned, and I assume a lot of younger people may no know what they are.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
The free wheel hubs were a European add on, mainly by Norway. They do make stering easier as power is how much effort you can into the 2 foot plus wide sterring wheel. They are aOK forward , backwards is a real work out.
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 6 лет назад
Good post. Given some parity in weapons, wars are usually won by the side with the best logistics, hence trucks like this win wars so it's nice to see them getting some recognition.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
They were built by people who understood that if the truck failed men died. I don't own mine , I am the gaurdian of them in this generation.
@jimkhata6847
@jimkhata6847 6 лет назад
Hey Chieftain, Love your channel, you got me back into armor modeling. How about a hatch episode or two on tank transporters ? After all, tanks can't get by without them.
@richardc7721
@richardc7721 4 года назад
Coolants weren't long-lasting like even in the 70s. So an easy access radiator was very useful. (Old mechanic here)
@mrgroovestring
@mrgroovestring 3 года назад
I grew up with a nice old WC 51 in my family, my sweet old dad had one in the early 60s. Ours had a soft front top, and a rear top canvas too. He eventually added a front winch, and used it to pull stuck vehicles out on the beach. It was a solid gold family surf fishing machine, when I was growing up as a kid. This brings back some very good memories. Thank you!
@yankee1376
@yankee1376 6 лет назад
I'll know I'm old when the Dodge M880's start showing up.
@MisteriosGloriosos922
@MisteriosGloriosos922 2 года назад
*Amazing!!, thanks for sharing these videos!!! Liked & Subcribed!!!*
@4CarbideGaming
@4CarbideGaming 3 года назад
i know its 50 years but IMO this thing is like an early version of the Jeep Grand Cherokee/Wagoneer especially the placement of that fuel tank and the inline 6.
@harpomarx7777
@harpomarx7777 6 лет назад
Never did spot the starter pedal ... was it under the throttle pedal?
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Just above it. slightly to the right. Key swaitch is wrong, should be just a turn switch.
@OlDMEGR01N2nd
@OlDMEGR01N2nd 6 лет назад
Math is certainly not The Chieftains strong suit. I see 5 wheels my friend :P Love your content!
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 6 лет назад
Including the steering wheel...? :P
@drdghattierdc
@drdghattierdc Год назад
The WC series was 51-59. All on the same chassis, even the carryall. The WC55 was for a 37 cannon and was also known as a Gun Motor Carriage 6. 1230 made. I own one. Troop seats are shorter with the corners having ammo lockers for 25 rounds 37 MM each. No spare tire at all. Originally was bullet proof tires, never did find a good description of what they were. WC stands for Weapon (no S) Carrier When pulling the engine, just remove the front grill and clip, fenders on and lift the engine and tranny together out. Those lit up reflectors are way modern, but nicely placed. originals were red reflectors no light. That truck has the late wood sides for the truck bed,. Earlier was all steel. That truck was also converted to disc at some point That truck has a New Process 220 trans. when going into neutral between gears, move the lever in neutral back and forth, really sets the gears up. Speedo was repro, you can tell by 6 digits, originals are 5. There was a WC 63, and 64. One with winch one no winch. dual wheels in the rear. Done as squads went from 8-12 people. Late war. The Norwegian returns were well taken care of over time. 34 k is a lot of money. Fun to drive.
@Latingent50
@Latingent50 3 года назад
Those born when there was nothing but manual transmission vehicles, had no choice but to learn that, as the world didn't know any better. For everyone else, there has been a choice, ever since automatic transmissions were invented. So whatever your gender or age, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with you if you don't like, or simply never learned to drive a stick. Don't ever let any judgemental know-it-alls tell you otherwise. It would be like shaming Millennials, or even more so, any teenager in 2021, for not knowing how to operate a Walkman or an 8-Track player, and telling them music is "more fun" that way. To each his own!
@samobispo1527
@samobispo1527 5 лет назад
So, basically, this is the HMMWV of WWII? I wish they would make new versions of this. How many 3rd world armies buy Toyota Hi-Lux pick-up trucks because they can't afford (or maintain) modern American gear that is too expensive, too fragile, and difficult to fix?
@shyamchabra5355
@shyamchabra5355 Год назад
Dodge was so well loved that the Japanese designed the Nissan Carrier (Identical) for the Indian Army. Petrol consumption was never Dodge's concern, as it was for many users! The old Power Wagon still hosts enthusiasts in Kansas,US.
@cowboybob08
@cowboybob08 Год назад
The reason why the radiator cap was exposed on those trucks is because water pump shaft seals were not very good during WW2. The ceramic seals they use today weren’t commonly used until the 1950s. So being able to top without having to open the hood was an advantage. Second, the transfer case without a low range is commonly called an in and out box. The simplest type of transfer case. Jeeps needed a low range due to them being equipped with only a 3 speed transmission, and first gear wasn’t very low, so they needed a low range. 3/4 ton trucks and bigger in the old days often had 4 speeds, with a 7:1 first gear, so a low range really wasn’t necessary for them.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 6 лет назад
If it makes you feel better, a friend of my grandfather used one of these throughout WW2 and he also would enter from the passenger side because of the tire blocking the driver side. I remember this because it was one of my first introductions, as a wee lad, to how governments can make things more trouble than they have to be. Why on the driver side was the perennial complaint and heeded it was not. Good ol' Uncle Sam...
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 6 лет назад
Also, about that 80% not knowing manual transmissions: My father learned to drive a stick in the early 1960s because that was what what my grandfather drove at the time. However, my grandfather insisted that my father buy an automatic for his 1964 Mustang because they were more reliable. Since then, every manual trans. we have had has failed thousands of miles sooner than any automatic. Manuals are not just less fun, they are just plain inferior technology. Thank you, Inventor of the Automatic Transmission.
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 6 лет назад
Eustace Stritchers I don't know what you're doing to yours, but my GMC Sonoma had it's factory clutch replaced at 230,000 miles (throwout bearing was noisy, but the slave cylinder died outright... clutch itself was still usable, changed it anyways since it was going to be apart). Still riding the factory transmission at 267,000 miles now. I've never worn out a clutch in any vehicle, and this is the first one to fail in any way. I've been through a few automatic transmissions in other vehicles though...
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 6 лет назад
Michael Free Bad luck, Mate.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 6 лет назад
_Why on the driver side_ To make it harder for the driver to fall out, obviously. Maybe also catch some flying fragments, if you're lucky. _it was one of my first introductions_ You need an introduction to thinking outside the box.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 6 лет назад
_every manual trans. we have had has failed thousands of miles sooner than any automatic._ Or maybe you're as bad of a gear shifter as you are at seeing beyond your own narrow vision.
@scottgs123
@scottgs123 4 года назад
Regarding the external radiator cap, you have completely missed the point, along with a very important portion of the Dodge WC series truck evolution. The cap was not external uniquely to give better access, but rather, as a side-effect of the Ordnance Department's directed changes to the original 1/2-ton VC design. The basic direction was to do this: 1) uprate the truck to 3/4-ton rating; 2) increase ground clearance; and 3) decrease the overall height silhouette. Obviously, the first two requirements were in contrast to the last. The visual result of this is the obviously flattened hood and the lowered firewall, when compared to the original 1/2-ton VC truck's, which were significantly higher. However, in order to accomplish this, Dodge engineers had to make the front radiator cowl go right down over the top of the radiator, and thus the exposed radiator cap. The lower silhouette changes also resulted in the complex carburetor setup, with the air-filter extension and the unusual placement of the air-filter, as well as poor access to the starter motor and the awkward throttle pedal, among other things.
@jeffturnbull9661
@jeffturnbull9661 5 месяцев назад
An early vehicular crush, closely following the 1/4 ton and preceding the pinzgauer, absolutely loves these wonderful vehicles
@busterdee8228
@busterdee8228 Год назад
My older bro was in Motor-T. He was driving past a maintenance tent one day when he noticed a guy sitting on a tire he was inflating. Before you could mumble 'bad idea,' the down-facing ring parted, launching the mech and tire into the tent roof. Then, the tire fell, followed by the mech, who was uninjured--this time.
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 2 года назад
Americans are forgetting how to drive stick because your ty3pucal dealer might have 20 variants of one car model and only 1 or 2 will have a manual transmission, and some have even started charging extra for a stick in most of their offerings. A clutch becomes way less fun in slow-crawl traffic - had one for many years. People don't ask to borrow your car much when its a stick.
@mikemcginley6309
@mikemcginley6309 6 лет назад
I really like these old trucks. No power anything makes them a chore to drive but also a lot of fun. Also makes one appreciate newer vehicles with power steering and brakes.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
No Mike, they MAKE you drive! You can't rely on some nerd sitting in an office to programme into the computer when and where you start and stop. You have to think what your doing and plan ahead. I love my two.
@McRocket
@McRocket 8 месяцев назад
I owned one of these long ago. It was great - but a bit cramped. Ohhh... ...that was a Ford Festiva. Never mind. ☮
@11oito
@11oito Год назад
Hello! I have one! I Live in Brazil and my father bought it in 1962 from Brazilian Army. I really love my WC and it's very rare here.
@floydvaughn836
@floydvaughn836 2 года назад
I wish Chieftain or somebody would do the military version of the Opel Cadet. Read 5 years, 4 fronts. The author's Opel deserves it's on book!
@tankfixer59
@tankfixer59 2 года назад
I was down in Hammond Louisiana visiting a 20-something nephew and his family.. He is a mechanic and the shop he worked at had one of these in for some work,. But no one in the shop knew how to start it....... Then he remembered his old uncle Paul who had been in the Army.. he would know.. And I did.
@1961OnRock
@1961OnRock Год назад
I understand why many Americans can't drive a stick. There are few cars sold in the U.S. that aren't automatic anymore. I can drive a stick. But most people under 40 havn't had the chance to drive a car with a manual transmission.
@antona.4572
@antona.4572 3 года назад
Most vehicles all around the world up until late-1950's had 6-volt electrical systems rather than 12V. Not sure why, though.
@johnossendorf9979
@johnossendorf9979 Год назад
When Chrysler products were worth owning, unlike any built after 1970.
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 6 лет назад
I think this is going to be popular in the auction. Not only is it a neat looking vehicle, and very classic, it is also just a good general vehicle. It can do a little bit of whatever you need done. I can just imagine picking up bags of soil for a project and hauling them home in this thing. Looking stylish, ha. Also those that like to do those historical runs, this truck can be made into like 20 different war time vehicle options. You can throw a gun in it and make it a tank destroyer. It can be made into an ambulance. It can be a troop transport. It can be a repair truck. It can even be an officer transport.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Or, more fun than officers half dozen re-eanctors in full kit after an extravagant night, singing soldiers songs at the top of thier voices. Um, yes Officer, I will insist they shut up, honestly!
@plaid13
@plaid13 11 месяцев назад
That fuel filler is so simple but makes so much sense. So many ATVs and construction equipment and things like that could use something like that.
@Bowhunter-ky3ez
@Bowhunter-ky3ez 4 года назад
Had a later model in 1976 .used it to run around the wilds ofGermany. Really hated it when it was replaced with the M-880
@lynneades4632
@lynneades4632 3 года назад
The guy commentating should have learned a bit before doing this presentation. The deal with the radiator cap is that unlike the preceeding 1/2 ton Dodges, the 3/4 tonners were designed to be "low silhouette" and so there was no room under the hood for the cap.
@iduswelton9567
@iduswelton9567 Год назад
Lol ive ridden and driven one of these vehicles- both were owned by private persons - i prefer to be the driver lol - and they will carry more then the stated load - they are very tough and versatile - i always wanted one - ive also driven the much bigger 6x6 10 ton utility truck - thank god it had an automatic tranny
@jamescameron2490
@jamescameron2490 Год назад
My father drove a WC-51 in Iran, with the U.S. Persian Gulf Command.
@TallifTallonbrook
@TallifTallonbrook 6 лет назад
do not depress the clutch completely unless you are stopped. If you floor it you will activate the clutch break and burn it out making it tough to get into gear when you are at a dead stop.
@omegamanprivate7132
@omegamanprivate7132 6 лет назад
Are you sure this one has a clutch brake?
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
They have a transmmision drum park brake.
@omegamanprivate7132
@omegamanprivate7132 6 лет назад
@@51WCDodge ah, but that isn't what misguided means. Clutch brake is inside the transmission case. It is a small brake that actually contacts the gears in the transmission, slowing or stopping them and allowing the driver to easily engage first.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 6 лет назад
Nope hasn't one of them to my knowledge, the gears are a lot of practice . The only time they can be a problem is after a lot of 4x4 the dif can lock up and theywon't com eout. Easy answer , with all part ime 4x4 is go backwards a few feet before disengaging. You can go into first on the move, but the forward speed needs to be about 2 mph. First is really a crawler gear,. Unless on something really steep or a very heavy trailer I always start from 2nd.
@omegamanprivate7132
@omegamanprivate7132 6 лет назад
Do you know how few commercial truckers don't know this? I worked a decade in a trucking company shop and I could identify a transmission moron at 50 yards. I could pick out a general moron at 75.
@LegendStormcrow
@LegendStormcrow Год назад
It's actually getting hard to get manual transmissions in the US nowadays. I only learned how to drive one this year. Really made me love that little truck.
@robertcostello4921
@robertcostello4921 3 месяца назад
Is readimg from a book because he can read good. He thinks hes an expert because he tells you things only a book would tell you
@busterdee8228
@busterdee8228 Год назад
Finally, a vehicle Chieftain can sit upright in. This needs to be my Sunday driver.
@philc.352
@philc.352 3 года назад
Well... I've been double clutchin my rides for years and didn't even know it.
@richardrichard5409
@richardrichard5409 4 года назад
That built in fuel filler funnel is fantastic :)
@justforever96
@justforever96 2 года назад
Semi elliptic is just one type of leaf spring .And if it has an inner tube, why would the bead lock shoot off?
@refealibazeta7886
@refealibazeta7886 3 года назад
I just made this truck. And the WC63,The Command Car and Medic truck.
@floydvaughn836
@floydvaughn836 2 года назад
Another wish: with the trend of re-creating great vehicles of the past, why not this one? Or the classics from the 50s?
@nacho71ar
@nacho71ar 6 лет назад
For those interested: M6 Tank Destroyer ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rMMRiAPh6Nw.html
@mikelitty552
@mikelitty552 4 месяца назад
You must have been devastated!! No track tensioning!😂
@AsukaLangleyS02
@AsukaLangleyS02 6 лет назад
You didn’t show us how fast you could exit the vehicle if it was on fire, I mean that’s the meme for this channel. I mean who hates that bit?
@FuzzyMarineVet
@FuzzyMarineVet 3 года назад
My father drove one of those for the Army in Korea in the late '40s before the "Conflict."
@jennifurzoe1302
@jennifurzoe1302 3 года назад
Stick is the new passive antitheft device and to think I learned on a 3 speed column shift at 11 years old.
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