Inside The Cockpit - Fiat G.91 

you pronounced Gnat so wrong XD - It's "Nah-t" not "G-nan-t"

@@katiejackson3900 It happens

@@MilitaryAviationHistory No shame, it's not a common word and english isn't as easy to pronounce as German (I love german pronounciation cos you know how everything sounds)

Completely off topic, but why is there a RAAF dc-3 at this museum? That has to be an interesting story.

Gift by RAAF to Berlin in memory of the airlift

Did you serve in Afrika, Guerra Ultramar?

@@musteila6789 No, I'm in my 50's, so I served in peace time...

Pedro T. It there any truth that the Portuguese had problem with maintenance of the second hand G 91 s they bought from Germany due the major modifications the Lawaffa carried out compared with the original design ?

@@skylongskylong1982 Sorry, not sure since the G91's were already in Portuguese hands long time before I went to the Air Force

Did you work on r4’s?

on exercises everybody is good because no life treat exists

@@klesarhr-bz5of - Let me clear a SMALL detail you seem to have "forgot"! Portugal held it's own, quite well for 13 years, of simultaneous war in three (3) different theaters of operations! Guinea, Angola and Mozambique. USA pushed to war (started) back in 61, Angola! In a short while the rest was involved. The rest as they say is history. With the 3 major powers (USA, Soviet Union and China) financing and supporting their respective protégé's in each location. And the Portuguese still holding it's own! In the end, radical political and mostly mentality changes in Portugal. Due to the fall of the old regimen. Lead to give "freedom" & independence to ALL Portuguese colonies! Curiously even the ones who were not fighting! It was a 180 degree political change that denied victory to all the fighting groups and level the freedom among them all! Rather surprising outcome! That to this day, some of them contest. Due to their lack of real "victory" on the field! Once more proving "pen is mightier than the sword"! Well, they kept fighting and killing each other. With no Portuguese presence or "oppression"! Go figure! BUT don't take me wrong. By then, Portugal had some of the best trained and with a lot of REAL operational war experience! Some truths might be hard to swallow. But please try! Cheers ;-)

My father was One of them. Dont forget that those pilots had years of Experience in real Combat missions. My father did 537 combat missions,all close air support in Moçambique and Guine Bissau. The ground troops loved them,specialy in Guiné ,where the war after 1971 started to shift in to Enemy Control. And in 1973,Portuguese posts in the jungle started to be completely abandoned because of the 24/ 7 artillery pounding by the Enemy. The G91 saved thousands of man,but at the same time,they started to be shot down by the new AA portable Strela missile. They were grounded,only flying when some army position was abaut to be overun by the Enemy. The Portuguese pilots were masters on those little Deadly jets.

@@crpth1 but they only started to fly the G91 in 1966. But even so,its a good Run,8 years of war.

@@klesarhr-bz5of what is a "life treat"?

So happy it got noticed, was going for a bit of a Spagetti Western flavour

I thought it was Kill Bill

also in spirit of studio Ghibli... try Porco Rosso...

with all your comments you just made me want to build one, scale model of course ;)

Rip

Why?

More like unknown

Martijn yes u can call it that too G91 was very good that what it was designed too even more than it s soviet counterparts

@@stukablyat6266 your nickname make me cry HAHAHAHAH IS THE LIFE

I have to thank War Thunder for bringing this aircraft into the limelight for me and many others.

Mediolanon I think by that point, the British had already pulled out of the project. We already had plenty of Hawker Hunters that were no longer top of the line as interceptors, so could be used for ground attack.

Interesting that all the labels of an Italian aircraft used in German service are in English? I suppose this is part of the NATO standardisation?

Hello SirK, I know, this is 2 years after you posted this, but did your uncle say anything how this plane handled? I heard at was a handful at times, I also have it in my flight simulator where it seems to take forever to take off and needs very high landing speeds for such a small plane. That's why I'm so curious how it really flew, and the video didn't really address that...

@@normg2242 I know this is ~10 months after your comment, but I can tell you he loved flying the G.91. He had several photos of them in his office, including hand painted small-scale models, after he left the Luftwaffe. He went on to fly commercial for Lufthansa and Aero Lloyd for many years. He never discussed the handling characteristics of the G.91, but he did have a complete canopy and seat from one in his basement, which I enjoyed 'playing' with as a child. He loved flying them very much. Before he passed away many years ago, he adopted a dog he named "Gina", which is the 'nickname' for the G.91. Suffice to say, he was a fan of the Fiat G.91 platform.

@comradeyars ... no worries about the belated reply, always happy to hear from people 😊. That's pretty cool about the seat and the canopy, I can imagine what that must have meant to a young boy, I would have gone nuts...lol. Thanks for sharing!

You're welcome

But when is the plane going to be on fire?

It was also operated by the Frecce Tricolori in the PAN version, which used modified controls, I suggest to search the videos on RU-vid, they did some of the craziest aerobatics I've ever seen!

In portugal airforce was a good aircraft and loved one too.. me in particular, was born in the last years they flew ... but still love this aircraft!

Look for g91Y, then......

A very modern looking aircraft for the time it was designed!

Huh, I phrased that very poorly. Meant to say that they wanted to try going supersonic (hence the experimental) and then built the G.91Y [which, as you say, actually wasnt supersonic]. My bad

@@MilitaryAviationHistory still was a very interesting version, even if it lost some of its original STOL capabilities, it was an improvement on maximum speed, cruise speed and payload

Delightful!

So, transsonic?

@@GewelReal Yeah Transsonic

It really hurts me to see these planes rotting away where they stand.

The P-51 went from contract signing to the first prototype in 102 days.

the Ambrosini Sagittario (an aerodynamic research aircraft that will led to the Sagittario II, briefly mentioned in this clip) was made in few weeks by stucking a Turbomeca Marboré turbojet into a S.7 propeller-driven, wooden-fuselage, trainer and giving it swept-wings and, by all accounts, it handled superbly. But Sergio Stefanutti, the designer, is what you can call an aerodynamic genius. i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/c2/98/6cc29890c0b0e26b92d27546d8414164.jpg i.pinimg.com/originals/64/e5/f2/64e5f22e4205123988a094b993af14aa.jpg

Thats what happens when everything isnt political and draped in so much red tape if takes 2 years to build a prototype

same as you sitting down and sketching out on on a napkin... draw an overall shape, refine it, add stuff that'd make it go and bam aircraft designed... Now the real trick is making everything work like you had placed down in design, and make sure that while enough compromises are made that the aircraft's integrity in its original design is not ruined... THAT, is what takes time...

I bet it was a lot cheaper too. Check The F35 development time. Nine years from first flight to introduction in but the prototype Maiden flight was back in 2000. Can’t compare capabilities of course. Price tag is about 100 million Euro’s each. Things have changed a bit.

Was a complete different plane

Paulo Rocha ... Thanks Paulo for this information. I’m constructing a model of the plane and wanted to build a ‘FAP version’ i.e. a version that was deployed in combat.

O FIAT tinha 2x 30mm DEFA.

It won as the best CAS for Nato competition but wasn't used due too It wasn't NOR english NOR french NOR American

Ethan Campbell ... very welcome information. Thanks!

It looks like this :D

watch?v=ZWIrh725eUk take a look from 5:45 and judge yourself! watch?v=eYkAOq5ZKaI or this video

The patch that dropped the 91 in WT I wanted them immediately without knowing anything about the plane. Just got them earlier this year (I was lazy lol) and they are already aced crew for air sim. It is so much fun bullying phantoms and migs with how nimble and small they are. As much as i hate gaijin sometimes, they introduced me to some amazing vehicles i never knew about.

The G91 could, and did, operate fromm grass runways, like a WWII fighter.

Mandi

La Pan lo ha utilizzato prima del 339

Actually F.A.P. was the first air force were Gina was involved in combat!

I agree ... I must admit I clicked on this video to learn about its performance in operational deployments in the Portuguese Colonial wars of

@ first and only...

@ The ONLY.!!!!

Why thank you

Glie lo hanno lasciato portare a casa?

@@arx3516 si

Fantastic to see a war weapon slowly eroding, unused, unneeded, as cool as that airplane is it's even better rusting away

Thanks Jake, very happy to hear that

Just happy to be there

@@MilitaryAviationHistory 👍