Three years ago, I was dating an intellectual individual like Muyu. She was highly focused on achieving her goals, ambitious, and self-driven. At times, I found it challenging to meet her expectations. Women like her need someone who can match or surpass their level of intelligence; otherwise, the partner might feel overwhelmed.
A very interesting conversation you guys had. The two ladies are equally attractive, and they've had sober thoughts while expressing their own views. I wouldn't deny their flowers for that reason.
These girls are brilliant, deep, principled and have some very deep perspectives. I was literally glued to this show. Agewise, they are my daughters and i could tell that i have had so many mis- steps. Oh wow! Just wow!
Thanks so much for watching! It's fantastic to hear you found the girls so insightful. It sounds like they sparked some great self-reflection for you, that's amazing! Keep up the journey of learning and growing!
I have listened to many things and to be specific to many Dialogues with J and let me tell you, honestly I am yet to meet or even to hear a young lady with Muyu's wisdom. Bro, that lady is just on another level in terms of thought and articulation of life issues. I have seen ladies especially young ladies give up on their lives and destinies because of their own actions and poor decisions in the name of I was young or I was innocent forgetting that life is unforgiving and it don't know your age or where you come from. I love it when she says that today you cannot afford to be ignorant about your own life and that she cant break her own life with her own hands. I wish in my next life I will meet a lady with the same vibe of life, I swear we will build an empire within years. Come on, I wish Muyu all the best, may the great vision which she bears materialize and become a global phenomena Thanks Jagero for bringing such a brilliant young mind on set in this day and age of our lives.
This Muyu girl is very Aware of the realities on the ground. "I am not going to destroy my life with my own hands" wisdom detected. I love the accountabilty of this 🥰
Muyu is a mature at a young age, definitely the kind every parent would want in a daughter, disciplined and focused on purpose, it is good Shaka says she agrees with her and acepts to make amends. No sex before marriage and no involvement in drugs. A good example to the young ones. I so love this.
We're truly grateful for your positive feedback. It's heartwarming to hear that Muyu is a positive influence. We believe in empowering young people to make informed choices, and we're glad this message resonates with you.
Please bring Shaka for a deeper indulgence in the versions of herself before and after her parent's divorce,as a millennial that's a convo that I want to be enlightened by
While I might not be dedicating a whole video to it right now, it's something I can definitely consider for the future. What aspects of Shaka's experience are you most curious about?
Pen and pad in hand...The oracles have spoken and we taking notes. ..A must watch for all millenials...Thank you Sir Jagero for original content to help us the fragile and the rebellious
Submission not respect.Men are created to provide,lead and protect.Thats why,we always have that zeal to always lead even when we have nothing and when we get women who do the opposite,we move on to the next catch.Ever wondered why there are many divorce cases these days? The above mentioned!
That's an interesting perspective! Love can definitely be a decision we make, especially in long-term relationships. But what about the chemistry or connection? Would you say those aren't part of love at all?
the thing about being informed at an early age is that you tend to make very rush decisions that may affect you for life, you usually go through this journey of hate, love then tolerance. As you grow you tend to accept some things that you thought you wouldn't, that's maturing. Maturing comes w age bc it's more or less the best way to acquire experience about life.These girls are mature yes, but they still have some maturing to do.
Our perspectives often evolve as we gain more life experience. While these young women show maturity in their thinking, you're right that everyone, regardless of age, continues to grow and develop their views over time.
@@TheJagero yes man, I agree 100% we gain sth as we grow older I'm available for the male version of this conversation, if you'd like to have it, I feel like I have points to make.
People would understand Muyu better if they are spiritual. Because what she wants and who she is, lies within God. That's why she seems outside of this world
Haha, you might be right! But hey, gotta start somewhere, right? Maybe in 10-15 years we'll be reminiscing about this comment in the future Thanks for watching!
@@TheJageroI agree, you have to start somewhere bro 😂 I hope she proves me wrong in that time, so we can reminisce and have this comment makes for good conversation.
WOMEN DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. You know this via how they react to a situation they are in or what has happened in their lives
That girl Muyu she is oozing out lots of wisdom. i think she is a perfect example of behind a man's success.... tuwachane na hawa vinyangarika zingine they even don't know global politics or what leads to a market crash.
The relationships we have with either men or women are based first on our own characters and perceptions of each other. Which, in the long run, gives us a perspective with which we form characters. Approximately more than half of our 'friends' are a reflection of our own characters; bearing in mind we have multiple characters or habits, that's is called the law of attractions, which dictates that we become attracted to 'energies' that we produce and the environment we nurture around us. For example @ Dialogues with Jagero, based on being a poet, he is more inclined to attract people in the field of artistry and creativity, which is proven over time that the podcasts have hosted a huge number of casts in the fields mentioned. If this is translated to intimate relationships we have, then we attract those who reciprocate the energies we emit with which later convictions are the other party is the problem/ a trigger to our response to the general populace...
Love the "law of attraction" reference! It makes perfect sense that we'd gravitate towards those who resonate with the energy we put out. Do you think we can consciously influence this energy to attract different types of people into our lives?
@@TheJagero Yeah!!, the energies we have are consciously and subconsciously influenced by the habits we form or engage in. Some of these are the experiences and choices we observe and make. We gravitate around these and naturally connect with those who have the same forms of energies. But basically we learn, unlearn and relearn all these as we age.
You captured this very well & I completely agree with this. Energy doesn't lie and vibrations are powerful. Attract never chase, especially friends or partners. Nothing good ever benefitted anyone if it came from a place of neediness.
In real life,and relationships,things don't work out that way anyways.She will need someone who has completely different attributes to hers.That makes life very interesting and worthy living.I for one detest people who think like I do,I prefer to learn things I completely have no idea about.
She mature translation shes a critical thinker that makes strong decisions for her life..at this time in this world, with her age and with mental capabilities she has such as reasoning is just rare to find ...Shes a gem fasho. For His man the dude hit a jackpot😅
I love that you picked up on her critical thinking skills. It's so important, especially at her age. Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you're enjoying the content
Muyu Kamau, - Keep up the Great life you a living you are a standard for this Lost generation I pray you keep it real like that for the rest of your life Brightness all the way
Muyu! You are doing well! I pray you get and experience all the good things marriage has to offer! Maintain ! You are on the right track! God bless you.
I just Like this Lady. She sounds so aware of Who she is and what she wants. She is not faking it or pretending. Yes you can get married a Virgin. Let God align your path Girl. And Marriage is sweet and working. Let no one lie to you. Go for it Girl..
Muyu is the real defination of an intellect,mature and focused woman.... I'm happy to see that we still have such kind of ladies And to you Jagero it is impunitive to think that maturity is measured by age😂😂😢
The way the lady is looking at the host🤣🤣🤣 it's like she's shocked ... but she's very very principled in this age being a virgin or not drinking nor partying is like a taboo which is sad Im happy she stood by that and didn't get scared of saying it loud ... Also jagero please treat guests with some level of decorum swearing will really put them off... these are verrrry brilliant people usicheze na Genziii for the lady who got sexually assaulted i am deeply sorry and we men really do have to protect our ladies ... Its pathetic
Gen Z has a lot to offer! I'm always happy to learn from different perspectives. Sexual assault is a serious issue and it's never okay. We all need to work together to prevent it and support survivors.
Yes yes!!! thank you for puting that out. I almost didn't watch it because of the cursing because it came out very loud at first. Glad it stopped at some point.
I think when shaka says what men talks about their women when they are not there, then we can say its the same to women saying things when their men are not there
men are not all the same just like women are not all the same you just need to find the right partner which will never be easy . you need a lot of patience to find the right one and God too
What an interesting episode. Muuyu knows knows what she wants, is beautiful (and lot speaks for her), Shaka a bit confused, lost, traumatized. Both girls enjoy the advantages and curses of Gen Z females (illusion of choice, international exposure , feminism etc). I like them, but wouldn´t advice a man to marry them at this point, bc the man they want ( morally perfect, tall, good looking, rich/ambitious) has other priorities (feminity, respect, mental and emotional stability). It´s okay to know what you want as a woman, however it is okay to know what you want as a man too, especially as a high value man they are mostly referring too. Jagero good job, you´re funny, interested, don´t interrupt a good train of thought from interviewee though!
We're glad you enjoyed the episode! Character development is a key aspect of our story. Muuyu and Shaka are evolving, and their journeys are far from over. We appreciate your insights into their current challenges and look forward to sharing more of their stories with you.
While comfort and stability are important, relationships are filled with various experiences. Stories can be a reflection of these complexities, even if they don't mirror everyone's reality.
@@TheJagero Penye imefika so far mi najua relationship ikona faces mbili (head and tail) - with diverse experiences, zingine tamu others challenging na how we both understand to find a balance in between, that's what helps us grow TOGETHER. Just always find a way to appreciate hutu tu small joys na unique experinces zenye zinakuja our way.
.... love is an active choice...love is effort... Dear brothers and sisters Pay little attention, and i mean pay very very little attention to " i have feelings for you" typa people ..... !
It's important to be mindful of the difference between expressing feelings and demonstrating love through actions. Love is about commitment and effort, not just fleeting emotions.
But some points they're driving are impractical, just in their minds. Dunia ya saa hii imebadilika. No man can be 100% of what you want, you have to mold each other.
I would like to differ with Muyu , people don't derive moral direction from religion ; its a matter of humanity , awakeness and civilization. Remember , before religion found it's way into Africa , Africans had moral values and ethics already.
It's an interesting point to consider. Where do you think the line between innate morality and culturally or religiously influenced values lies? I see your point, MukaliMutua. However, I believe religion has played a significant role in shaping moral frameworks and providing ethical guidelines for many societies.
Hapo ndio men lose it, we listen to women speak logic and it impresses us but forget that is our language and that is why it got us impressed in the first place. Its not women's. Yao ni emotions. Listen to their words at your own peril. Her (muyu's) upbringing got her here, not her reasoning. Men let's keep that in mind.
Shaka has an insatiable complex, i would respect her opinions in life. if she learns to appreciate what she has rather than more, she will be happy. And she's right maybe long term dating isn't for her, you can't both serve family and ambition at the same time, one has to "serve" the other.
women have only 3 requirements 1. money 2. money 3. money even the ones who tell you they don't care about money, you just haven't shown them enough money - kuna wa thao, kuna wa mita na kuna wa mamita
A very big disparity between the two. Muyu an intellect that is Open minded and a Critical Thinker. While Shaka only knows what she doesn’t want but not what she wants.
Being a middle child ,i totally agree with her its sort of a set up ,you learn to observe people n read in btw the lines.My friends are mostly like 8% men n like 2% women,n jagero the things i hear them say,it hits you like maybe somewhere i am another groups topic😅😅😅😅the mere thought of that just cripples the dating idea n fantasies.Plus just seing their behaviors outside this road trips n group hang outs you just lose hope 😢😅😅its sad buh maaaaahn ....mic down
Dating can be tough sometimes, but there are so many great people out there! Don't let a few negative experiences discourage you. Keep putting yourself out there and focus on the positive. Focus on finding people who share your values and treat you with respect. There are definitely good guys (and gals) out there
17 mins in Muyu is the fairytale girl, chaka is the seasoned lady....jagero,was the flower plant really neccessary??? lol....aluta continua, more commentary in a few.....
the girl who doesn't drink got my attention but episode too long damn😂😂😂 gen z niko na vitu mingi za kufikiria, I'll reference this later and find her💯😂🔥
Kwani nyinyi watu huwa mwala Pizza wapi?😂😂😂 I'm in Italy right now enjoying italian Pizza and Scampis and everything Italian... But for the BREAD Germany has the BEST Bread ... You all need to try... They are professional bakers believe me you... it's mwah🥰🤗😋😋
You are having a culinary adventure! Italy and Germany, two food powerhouses. We're definitely jealous of the fresh Italian pizza and scampi. But hey, we'll happily trade our pizza secrets for some German bread tips! We've heard amazing things about their bread.
The Bigger girl is more mature and gorgeous than the other one that has been thru multiple dudes. She can't stop giggling like she's never me in a communication class. Jesus Christ
I find the other lady, the chocolate one, very attractive. She has an infectious smile. Not to mention the red flower right at the table hid me from seeing her completely. Next time throw that damn flower. Otherwise y`all had an informative dialogue.
These two ladies are brilliant,but real men love women that submit.Men give back love ,protection and loyalty.These days,we have more women doing exactly what men are supposed to do,we seriously need to bring back that culture into the boychild otherwise,we might end up wirh a generation that just has no roots.
Traditionally men were seen as protectors and providers, relationships today are built on partnership and equality. Men and women can both be strong, loving, and successful. What are your thoughts on how we can raise a healthy generation with strong and sustainable relationships values?
THAT GUY IN A R/SHIP WITH NO SEX IS SIMPLY WASTING HIS TIME.WOMEN R PROFESSIONAL TIME WASTERS. YOU BOND WITH WOMEN WEN MAKING OUT NOT SPENDING TIME TOGETHER... SHE DOESN'T LIKE THAT GUY AS SUCH
There are some tough issues we face. But she gives me hope. She's a great example of the kind of people who can make a difference. What are you passionate about changing in the world?
WOMEN DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. You know this via how they react to a situation they are in or what has happened in their lives
