Draymond Green, Reggie Miller, and the Inside crew debate Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson vs. Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. #nba #insidethenba #warriors #mavericks
@@michaelpowell9152 It means they beat the second greatest player ever at his absolute peak, 3 times in the finals. The same way you guys say “MJ never beat Bird”.
This show sucks ! A bunch of idiots nagging and saying things like “I love the street meat with all the white sauce “ AYOOOOOO SUPER PAUSE! That NbC -NBA song 🎵 is legendary! I rather listen to it on repeat for half hour than to hear these idiots give their Bias opinions
@@ryankayombya7576 but what did we see in 2017? Klay was sticking his ass, (pause) irving was locked down in games 1 and 2, got shut down his last shot in game 3.. and was defended well in game 5.
Reggie telling the truth Steph and Klay just really known best for shooting but Luka and Kyrie can get it from anywhere and create they own shots from anywhere
Steph has a better layup package than Luka, he just is such a great marksmen, why go for 2 when you can get 3. If we're taking the prime of the four of them, Klay and Steph would take Luka and Kyrie. They'll have more 3 points, and while Luka and Kyrie might be better scorers than Klay, Klay in his prime is light years better than Luka and Kyrie on defense. He'd lock them both up in his prime (hell, he already has).
Naw bro I don't even like Steph and Klay but they are the greatest backcourt ever. They prime together seemed like the injury to Klay robed them of like two or three more years .
And without Green, maybe Curry and Thompson aren't who they are. All of them complement each other. So stop with that "WiThOut StEpH" narrative. It goes on every way, not just one.
@@JustNate365 Good, yes. But I honestly would not say elite. It’s just he’s a better defender than Curry and would take some of the defensive assignments instead of Steph. That helps with his reputation as a defender.
@@IamNotTreytry again. Luka is 25 and just averaged 33. Get over it little buddy. He'd bust both their ass in a 1 on 1. Made the DPOY look like a child.
Prime Klay Deffo is ! Klay is a way better 2 way player thank Luka and Ky and when he's hot there's no one like him. Unfortunately he's suffered back to back career ending injuries but still came back and won a chip in his return!
Which means he was spot up shooting, not creating his own shot. Kyrie can go ISO any possession and get a bucket, Luka can go ISO and get a bucket any possession
But you gotta respect it. A competitor always think they could've gotten it done against anyone. It may be somewhat delusional but I feel him though. 😆
@@reg12269 oh I definitely remember them.. I was ten or so around their run.. Sam I Am could definitely get it but not at the level of the two Duo 's mentioned.. lol not on the same planet
@@IamNotTreyno they don’t out of the 4 Luka is the best player out of them. 2nd most ppg in the playoffs behind MJ. Already has more First team NBA than Steph all his missing is the rings which he eventually will get he is only 25
Well yes but very few can anyway. Klay had a different skill set of being a microwave scorer that could change a game within minutes with a hot streak of 3s and he defended better than Ky and Luka in his prime. It’s close between the 2 duos they are just different types of players
Agree.. Klay is not better than Luka or Kyrie..not even close. Better shooter? Still no, by the end of Luka's career he will have a lot more score than klar and i think kyrie has higher score tha klay too
@@12savage68lol as a leader of a Team, he 100% was without any question😂 When Klay Thompson is the best player on your team at any point if his career, your team is not making the playoffs...
this ring might actually mean more for kyrie, idk. Because he is a Bona fide leader of this team and helped create this mavs culture that we are seeing this post season.
Exactly people are hype about them right now because they just started winning anything in life like Steph and Klay took out Russ and Kevin Durant and then made Kevin join their team. I don’t wanna hear shit about Kyrie and Luca until they have together at least four rings and I can bet a couple of houses that they probably not going to get that.
@@ayodrew5558don’t forget that Klay Thompson scored 37 pts in one quarter. I know the recent game matters more and yes he fell off but like cmon have some respect, can’t we all discuss the legends without letting their worst most recent game on their way out override every other thing they’ve done. Body of work man smh
@@NobleVagabond2552 well that’s modern nba fans for you. Unable to look at context or perspective if a guy doesn’t hit a game winner and drop a 35 point dribble double he trash. Bonus points if no one else on your team scored over 10 points. 😂 nba fans are hard to listen to sometimes
Steph and Klay went to 3 finals without KD and 3 finals with KD. 5 straight finals and 1 final at 35 yrs after all the injuries. We're comparing apples and oranges.
I wouldn't count that 2019 finals as them having KD. They basically finished the Rockets in the semis and sweeping Portland in the wcf without him. So 4 finals with 2 rings without KD. And 2 rings out of as many finals with him. Meanwhile Kyrie got swept while having KD as his teammate. Like wtf are we talking about here? Lol
2, not 3 without KD....lucky to beat a depleted Cavs teams in 1st with Delly as their 2nd best player. Lost the 2nd after having a 3-1 lead....needed KD to get them those 2. How many Finals MVPs do Klay and Steph have?...1 in 4 championships.
Klay is a better player than Kyrie?? Whattt. Klay’s only bag is shooting. Kyrie leads Klay in almost every statistical category. Points, rebounds, assists, steals per game, all Kyrie. Total points, total, rebounds, total assists, total steals, all Kyrie. They’re equal in field goal and 3-point %%. Klay is a better 3-point shooter by ONLY 0.02%.
Better skill and currently in form with several years left. Kyrie was key to the Cavs championship that was against Steph and Klay...coming from 3-1 down.
Steph and Klay complement each other so well. That’s a 2 piece, 1, 2 combo. Luka and Kyrie are 1a and 1b. Individually they’re both more deadly than Klay but we’re talking best pair.
Draymond is the type of guy who seems like he would be really funny, but when it comes down to it, he's really not... he's actually more toxic than anything. 🤦
Klay is a feed me player, the other 3 can make it happen by themselves. If I was down 20, I would not inbound the ball to Klay to create plays, I would have Kyrie or Steph feed Klay the ball though 🤷🏿♂️
That's incredibly false. Theres a difference between not being able to get it versus not having fancy handles. Klay has a lighting fast off the dribble pull up, post game, and catch and shoot.
Steph and Klay would kill them point wise quickly, and they have the championship to prove it. Isolation and creating shots, Klay not built for that but he doesn't have to be.
On one side, 2 players who won 4 rings together, and on the other side, 2 players who just won couple of high level games. You have to wait for concrete success to make that comparison.
@@mattsell2361Obviously matters in this context. Warriors had success not because of their post game or paint points. They had success because of their backcourt. Undoubtedly the greatest backcourts of all time
@@anirudhranjan2934 that’s not the argument tho. The argument is having two guys who can score and be great 1 on 1 players and do everything offensively
What kind of logic is that? Klay is an SG. Ofc he cant iso. The iso player was Steph. It’s like saying McGee is better than all of them cause they cant dunk on someone
@Bahzhsjenbs They were arguing Kyrie and Luka vs. Steph and Klay, who was the best duo. I'm taking 2 guys who can do everything over 1 guy and a shooter.
@Bahzhsjenbs Also you are the obvious illogical one. You said "of course a SG can't iso" 🤣 lmao do you watch basketball??? Donovan Mitchell, Anthony Edwards, Kobe, MJ, etc... the elite SG past and present can iso. Klay is not elite. Just stop 😂
@@takerfan4everlet’s be fr 😂😂klay is not a iso sg klay has not any type of dribble bags to iso anybody like the rest of these SGs klay is a catch and shoot build ray charles would strip klay if he was trying to iso
@@ryankayombya7576 I know it isn’t, that was just an additional point. I’m taking them in a 5 on 5 too. Curry, Kyrie and Luka all greats. Klay isn’t on the same level so he brings down their team.
@@FinneganMurray-pb2ej I think you’re forgetting what Ky did to Klay for that Cavs chip? 🤣🤣 he was fully draped, making everything in his grill, dropped like 40+ points on his head
@@BooBooDaFoo330Ya and that’s it. That warriors team was insane and it’s bc of Steph and klay having insane range. Mavs is my team but I don’t see us beating the version of warriors with a healthy Steph, klay, draymond, and Bogut
@@ShivPatel-hy6vu to be fair Steph is as good an iso player as Luka and Kyrie but yeah I mean they also had Prime KD at one point in time too…2017 Warriors is arguably a top 5 team all time.
There's a good 4 you can debate on. Dumars and Zeke definitely in there too. Steph n Klay definitely also. A low key one is Fisher n Kobe. They did work!!!! And I HATE the Lakers
People getting this argument twisted... luka and kye can get a bucket whenever how ever... steph and clay cant do that... its a skill thing not a legacy thing
Kenny was always a wild card for me on these panels. Everyone else they include are HoFs, and Ernie who’s the mediator of everyone. But Kenny literally just a good role player who had a couple of nice seasons and 2 rings and he somehow always chillin talking to the greats. Makes me chuckle every time they roast his ball career because he’s basically the only one who they can say it about
@@BrianPhillips-lq8mc Perhaps. But then don't say like Curry only got there due to those HOFers when you have such a realization. Like Rik Smith or John Starks aren't some HOFers bcos their team never got the championships, and yet Toni Kukoc is one of the HOFers bcos he played in the right team.
Facts he never averaged more than 22 points a game to be honest I think Steph Curry and Monta Ellis was better please just Steph Curry was young and injury-prone back then
Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are the best shooting backcourt of all time. However, Luka and Kyrie can score consistently from all 3 levels. Curry can take it to the cup pretty good, but no way near the way Luka and Kyrie can.
@@kohsmoger1567 I don’t think we spoke, but I agree, Luka and Kyrie can’t shoot nearly as good as Curry. Curry best shooter ever. However, Luka can do it all and he’s a big dude. He can body ppl in the paint and down low and create his own shot. Kyrie probably has the best handles of all time and goes to the cup unlike any other dude his size, ever, particularly in his prime. Three different styles. All very effective.
@@christopherhall5254That's what I'm saying. 3 dribbles aint really getting your own bro, STOP!!! THJ sad ass can do that. Klay IS NOT crossing nobody over and dancing on cats with his handles. 🤦🏾♂️🙉 Intellectually, Shaq and Chuck ARE NOT smart enough to debate Reggie and Kenny!!! Kenny was hesitant but he thought about it. "He's gotta a point." Curry as a so-called point guard ain't facilitating Golden State's offense. Draymond on the set and looking out for his CURRENT teammates KNOWING GOOD AND HELL WELL that HE runs point forward for GS. F_kin duh! 🤷🏾♂️ That's like Kyrie or Luka spot up while PJ runs point! Time will tell, and it'll be obvious after our dynasty ends in like 2028 - 2030'ish. Sorry 🤷🏾♂️ Too early to speak on now.
All-Time the best backcourt Steph & Klay no doubt. Now if we are talking offensively alone then there is an argument there. I think people are forgetting how good Klay was though in his prime.