Inside The Weird Dinosaur Park Where Confederates Defeat The Union Army (HBO) 

VICE News are you relating this video as white supremacy?

I don't see the connection. How is this promoting white supremacy ? Keep looking for sticks to hit with Vice. You make great content most of the time, but lately i'm getting the impression you're pushing an agenda.

Come on guys, this video has Nothing to do with white supremacy.

Hard read, but yeah pretty much on point. Student of history ?

Ohhh yes, WW1, wwII, Vietnaam, desert storm, etc. please write!

rofl0bot you would think so, but then you hear the visitor at the end try to equate both sides as being wrong. Clearly some people see this a a gateway to redeeming the Confederacy, while ignoring all blatant evil they openly professed.

Sword of Tauberg The confederacy may have had its moral problems, but the union were not the saints they are painted out to be. The closest the United States has ever come to being a tyrannical country was under the union.

It isn't at all a satire of southern revisionism. It would be obvious and sold as such. Instead when he calls it absurdist he's just trying to hide behind words while the park he has made betrays his beliefs. Also, he's trying to push the narrative that none of it can be taken for more than silly or ridiculous. He only talks about these things to deflect from giving an answer to a hard question. His behavior and actions do not show that this is meant to make southern revisionism seem absurd. It avoids the subject entirely by hiding behind a "history" that is impossible so that it can more freely depict his views and southern views towards racism.

I get the impression the owner just wanted to make a silly park. But he checked out the local demographics and went with a side and a struggle that would fit in with the local culture.

+Don't want to use your Google+ Name? Ok, we'll ask you again later: Thank you! And once again, the correct answer is "follow the money". His park needs to make money to survive. He tries to avoid all political commentary because he doesn't want to dissuade anyone from coming to his park. He needs to pay the rent and buy food just like everyone else.

Maui Caui Hold on are you bullshiting me or are you telling me the truth

Liberals aren't even funny,can't make a good joke to save your life.

And yet you guys still aren't funny i wonder why that is.Maybe they took it to far.And sarcasm is one of the oldest form of comedy hardly a leberal concept.They did bring tastless,drity and political humor that may be true.You really need to stop looking at it from Americas pov with its 2 party system and trace it back to Europe.Still the best comedy are from groups such as Monthy Python,hardly liberals but true comedians.

I Popra You sound to me like you have a very outdated sense of humor.

I Popra How are Monty Python not liberal? Making fun of religion, traditions, having a gay cast member and employing Terry Gilliam all point to progressive liberal ideas. I could be wrong, but I would think Monty Python in general are liberals overall.

It was adapted into a comic book! You can buy the comic book of the entire story!

hmm yes interesting. Well Confederates did win in Cuba and Mexico

Maui Caui Koreans??????! What on Earth are you talking about?!

Maui Caui 😓Robert E Lee, Longstreet, Jackson, Hood, Armistead, and many others fought in Mexico. Joseph Wheeler and the Southern regiment the Rough Riders fought in Cuba

Jason m How where they traitors when the North shot first at Harpers Ferry, Secession isn’t in the constitution, and U.S soldiers flew Confederate flags in Cuba, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq?

Jason m Because that’s not right. Not a single Confederate was charged its treason. The North started it and it’s actually legal. They joined willingly and they can leave willingly. Now if a state wants to leave they have to get permission.

John Shirley absolutely

He did make some great art, that's for sure. Not sure I like it, but I can agree it's good art.

that also applies to abstract art. merely generating controversy isn't a sign of skill or taste

I think its neat I don't really see the guy as racist most of the people that visit the park on the other hand are most likely racist

It's not as if anyone is screaming to shut him down, least of all VICE. He made a ridiculous public thing, said so quite clearly. VICE's stock in trade is showing ridiculous things and people, and he's obviously having a good time with it. He's a dedicated Shoop troll, and enjoyed having his visitors shown to the world as being ridiculous.

Dusk Dawg yeah, true. But that still doesn't mean someone shouldn't be allowed to make it. You can't tell an artist their art is wrong because if you made something similar there's other people that would protest it. I'm not sure if that's what you were getting at, but I'm just sayin.

Dusk Dawn I'm and republican and this is the most exaggerated comment I've seen on this site

Dusk Dawg Your wrong honestly almost every American knows the wrongs the South committed during the war Slavery etc. The union actually committed a number of atrocities as well Sherman’s March for one. Politics aside it’s sad people want to get rid of history like grave markers, statues. Just because people fought on different side shouldn’t justify historical destruction.

No it's not.

You can tell he didn't build the park because he actually believes the south won, though. If he had bigoted motives, he'd have a LOT more blatantly racist memorabilia in his park. He doesn't even fly a Confederate flag, because he KNOWS what the Confederacy and their symbols represent. At 3:11, she mentions how he doesn't want any part in the controversy, and then they use a clip of him saying 'That war had to happen...' and he even got a little frustrated with the guy who refused to admit the war was fought because of slavery. I don't know why it still feels like they're trying to make it out to be more than just a kooky art project when he's clearly on the right side of history. Like she said in the beginning. 'He's a character.' Nothing more. Just a character playing a part. And I dig it.

Well duh cause she can’t just go back to the office with some story about a fun park it always has to have drama

FLOWER, news flash! The dinosaurs is not the racist part. It's the Confederates winning. Can't imagine how you can get confused on that very clear point.

Chairun Siregar aaaand?

bob gomescruz I can walk you if your owner its ok with it

Check out the animal safari while your down there ( kids like it). And Natural Bridge itself is interesting . George Washington carved his initials on it .

Why? do you have a problem with them showing that this guys park exists? This video alone got over 33k views it's pretty clear there is an audience for this kind of thing.

I'm fine with the video, and it's a good one. It was just unnecessary to keep pushing the race issue on the poor guy who is obviously not racist. Pushing the race issue distracted from the video subject.

Yeah right.......

Nobody during the course of the video accused anyone, including the idiot with the "just trade" talk of racism. The point is that it perpetuates an absurdist ahistorical perspective which seems to a problem in American historical knowledge and has very real consequences for modern political thought.

w w It's a fantasy theme park. No-one is relying on this to teach them history.

America!

n. p. Devil on his shoulder before he (guy from PA.)spoke with them. "Alright jasper when you get up there I want you to deny deny deny" "Even If their right?" "Especially if their right" "Okay I think she's got me with this trade talk" "Deny!" 👹

The Southerner saw the Northern industry and banks a lot like how the 99% see the 1% today. Slavery wasn't just a Southern issue. There were slave states that fought in the North. Lincoln didn't want to get rid of slavery over night when is was elected. The South was an agricultural economy and made its money on exporting cash crops. Business was so good that it gave the South equal footing against the North politically and economically. Slave labor was ingrained in that system (remember slavery was going on in the colonies well over a century before the US came around.) The issue of the time was how could that South keep it's equal footing with the North while getting rid of a corner stone (slave labor) of their economy. The South believe that the North wanted to get rid of Slavery (not for moral reasons) so they could economically control the South.

Ooooof. That made me cringgge.

I could not believe that guy said that.

You think those dinosaurs were the good guys? They were obviously communists.

And who can forget our great president, Abraham-Rex.

"The un un-nazi'd the world"

SCARSyidicate shes got down syndrome

Dom Trussardi ?

Dom Trussardi ahh I see I thought you were talking to me.

Dom Trussardi understandable I just got confused on who you were talking too.

Dom Trussardi How was that used as an insult? He literally said "she's got down syndrome". How is that an insult?

grant hewitt Its not about fun, its about the truth

Kaotic404 then you're sorely missing the point of an alternative history park. The whole thing is a fantasy. Dinosaurs walking alongside humans and you're complaining about truth? Don't take everything so seriously.

Kaotic404 buddy you asking for realism in a dinosaur park no one really thinks that the confederates won plus he didn’t even say that they did win she just needs a story and clickbate

wimmisky thanks! Definitely needed in this world of black and white thinking.

It’s kinda crazy that so many countries like France, England, Spain, etc supported the south in order to keep their cotton trade strong and invaded Mexico in order to aid the South’s plan to invade into the border, crazy don’t you think?

BlueBig22 very true it was pretty much about 💰 not slavery, Abraham Lincoln didn't signed the bill to free the slaves untill 2 years after the war started ??at 1861 Just one month after writing this letter, Lincoln issued his first Emancipation Proclamation, which announced that at the beginning of 1863, he would use his war powers to free all slaves in states still in rebellion (as they came under Union control) Also some rich blacks like the ones in South Carolina who owned slaves and plantations all for the 💰 😁😁😁

She admits it's funny and quirky, but is merely asking about the obvious elephant in the room when you're fantasizing about wishing the south had won; which is "Why".

john pardon Considering to be half the country crazy instead of evil would be better right? Because brother fight so hard against brother in that war father against son it was a brutal and terrible war of ideas and owning people definitely was one of Those ideas.

There was never a war fought to end slavery. While the South certainly was fighting to preserve it, despite Abraham Lincoln having no intention of ending it, the North's reasons were simply to maintain the Union. Later on slavery was used as a strategic reason, which is why the Emancipation Proclamation (1863) was delivered and freed slaves in rebellious states. Border states, Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware never had their slavery laws interfered with by that proclamation. In fact, West Virginia was admitted to the Union as a slave state in 1863 from Virginia, which pretty much nullified any reason the South had to fight.

Nicholai Me too!

Jum Black Dinos just want freedom

Sakerti I'm thankful for Dino Lincoln giving them a right to kill and eat whomever they wish.

Vin Soriano, Glory with dinosaurs.

and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.. lol

And stupid

KARONGA It's pretty cool tbh, look at the detail and overall craftsmanship all made by one guy. I'll definitely check it out if I'm ever in the area

Dusk Dawg not at all homie

dirty pure Really? It’s mocking a war that was fought because the south wanted to keep owning human beings. If it was a park that had nazis winning because of dinosaurs people would be up in arms

... righhhht...

A raise for constantly trying to race bait?

Faith Rox *NO.*

Yeah she is one of the most annoying journalist in vice. Because of the reason of nit picking in cause of political correctness.

Kaotic404 YES

PantsB4Squares Agreed

Embarrassed how exactly? The only one who got embarrassed was the Pennsylvanian who doesn’t know his own history.

It wasn't that simple. There's a lot of political complexity behind the war and simplifying it down to just that one issue is not an accurate representation of history.

dirty pure, it was even acknowledged at the time in the speeches and secession letters that the reason was slavery, they were very explicit about it. The economy of the south was highly dependent on cheap slave labor. States rights: to own slaves. To give credit to later revisionist historians like the lost cause is dishonest. Like any war the individual soldier might not agree or disagree with the cause, but the war was about states owning slaves. You can revere the soldiers but don't glorify the system that fought a war to preserve slavery.

the civil war about about maintaining power and keeping the southern states in the Union. In a letter Lincoln states: "I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views." Source: www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

92bagder Lincoln’s own anti-slavery sentiment was widely known at the time. In the same letter, he went on: “I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.” A month later, Lincoln combined official duty and private wish in his preliminary Emancipation Proclamation. If the north responded unification by war to the souths secession then you must agree they went to war because the south seceded, and the south seceded because of slavery.

Arcticwulf Actually it wasn’t about slavery until the emancipation proclamation. The North was loosing to many battles, so they banned slavery in the Confederate states as a military tactic. And oddly not the Northern states at the time.

haha what the heck. +1 for you.

Paul R No the civil war was based on slavery. Look at any textbook and it will tell you that.

if you're going to make that statement at least finish the statement. Yes the south wanted their "freedom" from the north but a large part of why they wanted that freedom was because of the advancing efforts of the north to abolish slavery in the south. Just be real bro. Stop trying to justify it like the South had some righteous cause man.

They seceded from the Union because of slavery, yes. They also seceded because they weren`t getting much of a say in the government compared to the north. There were more people in the north compared to the south so the north was getting more of a say in the government. The south of course didn`t like this and they decided to secede so they could get a say in their own government. The south fought for their independence from the north. In fact the civil war can be compared to the American Revolutionary War because of the south`s want of freedom (much like the colonists). The civil war only really became about slavery until after the battle of Antietam, when Lincoln issued to Emancipation Proclamation. He did this to give the north a reason to fight because up until Antietam the south was destroying the north and their moral. Also, by issuing the Proclamation, it deterred the English form helping the south. Also, after Lincoln issued the Proclamation, many guys in the north deserted because they did not want to fight to end slavery, they wanted to fight in order to preserve the union. Its very easy to say they fought for slavery and that is it. The south fought for more than just that, it is a very complex war. I`m not saying they did not fight for slavery just that there was more to it than that. Also history textbooks will tell you more than it was just about slavery. What I am trying to say is that it it was not just slavery there was way more to it.

Who rights the history books? The victors, that`s who. Think about it this way, it would be in the North`s interest to make the confederacy evil, especially after Lincoln`s assassination and all the devastation that was created during the war Everyone here seems to think that I`m saying the confederates did not fight for slavery. I don`t know how many times I`ve said it but here`s another try. They did fight for slavery. Ok, you guys got it? Now what I`m arguing is that is wrong to say it was 100% about slavery. IT WAS NOT. They fought for many other things. Also most men in the confederate army could not afford slaves. I don`t think they would risk there lives just for a tiny chance that one day they might have one. Also I am not trying to justify fighting for slavery. They fought for freedom from the north which was traitorous, right? The colonists fought for freedom from the Brits which was traitorous but guess what, THEY WON. Oh also, they had slaves and stood for slavery.

Shane Steines She even looks stupid. Like a leftist zombie.

Matthew Chenault Ah, so it wouldn't be traitorous if I started my own country that took up about 1/2 of the US's current land area illegally?

Brodie the fox ..... don't care about English men, don't live with them. here in the US, we have to live with the traitors

Brodie the fox You're assuming be a traitor is always a bad thing. I never said being a traitor is a bad thing. In fact, standing up to an oppressor is a good thing. :) :) :) :) :) :)

ya the democrats who created the kkk have indead lost 2016 elections everyone is glad

This kkklown must be on Ambien too.

Well, the Germans have to live with the fact their history had a dark turn so the South should humble themselves too.

Just the slave stuff everything else can stay

An Evolving Ape yeah I bet VICE/SJW‘s don’t like Wolfenstein series because it makes the Nazis the winners of the war.

t-bone007 no, they lose actually. Sjws love it because you kill nazis

David Miscaviage actually I’m right since they won World War II. The campaign starts after World War II.

Liquid ForePlay if you had to directly interact with so many crazy or evil people on a daily basis, you would need some 'help' too. Imagine having to listen to neo-nazis explain ethnostates for an hour, or having to hang out with flat earthers for a day.

Woooww, I'm sure she's so hurt by this comment.

Super kami guru Try to think this through REALLY slowly. A person commented on how she looks stoned in this and OTHER videos. I joked about how she has done interviews in the past with Neo-nazis. You can watch videos of her talking with leaders of the Charlottesville rally to see that for yourself. I wasnt referring to this park owner as a nazi; I was talking about the literal Nazis she has interviewed before.

Super kami guru Go try it and see if you dint need a drink afterward. Like I said in my original comment, she interviews neo-nazis, flat earthers, and other fringe groups as part of her job. You can do that to, and try to produce something coherent out of their beliefs. Dont take my word for it, go prove for yourself that hanging out with Nazis and flat earthers won't make you go a bit cross eyed

@@justcallmeSheriff nah. I know people like this. It's just an affected urban hipster thing, right down to the oversized ugly glasses.

jefftc14 they didnt havr to troll him.. he made an ass of himself all on his own. lol

This reporter is notorious for that. She will look at your shoes and find a way to make you a Nazi

Blanketed Page that's a very un-american view.

Faith Rox yea a civil war thing park having the south win *NOTHING* political about that, right?

Well, he involved the Civil War, so... who brought up politics first?

nateman10 Also just to clarify, the reason why modern politics is so enthralled in the civil war, is because the south and what it stood for believed in, as the president of the confederacy put it "African slavery, as it exists in the United States, is a moral, a social, and a political blessing." ~Davis And people are flying his flag around. It stood for things that are unamerican, and immoral. If you want a flag to represent where you came from, fly your state flag, a lawful moral institution that doesnt stand for something that is so wrong.

People trying way too hard to get offended...

Not hilarious.....

john pardon You do know every country had slavery right? Spain, Portugal, and West Africa started the Atlantic slave trade. Africa, Middle East, and Asia still have it.

Southern Gentleman oof

Bob Orson oof

yes i know. does that make it less bad? it's still pretty stupid imo.

ivan Montalco Not in Mexico and Cuba. U.S soldiers flew Confederate flags in Cuba, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq.

Southern Gentleman those soldiers are traitors. The union won get over it. The south is just full of sore losers that cant accept defeat

ivan Montalco How are they traitors of the North shot first at Harpers Ferry, Secession isn’t in the constitution, not a single Confederate was charged with treason, and they fought for the U.S before and after the war?

ivan Montalco You know the flag of Dixie just represents Southern pride right? U.S soldiers flew Confederate flags in Cuba, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq.

Southern Gentleman the winners decide history and who is a traitor or not. Remember that

209 Luna Or he's just having fun

Harmless fun.. I kinda like this guy

Agree

we're not crying... we're just stunned how someone with a 70 IQ got into the white house....... OHHHHH cause all his supporters also have a 70 IQ.

its impresses me how much he has managed to do for the US for having 70 iq

He has done SO MUCH. He's alienating us from our allies, starting a trade war with the rest of the world, aligning himself with other world dictators, trying to divide the country by spreading fear and hate, tells nothing but lies and then calls all media (except fox news) fake news... no one has been able to accomplish so much since Hitler! He's breaking ALL the records lolololololol

alienating from allies? how? the relationships are still the same? yeah trade war is just unnecessary, bringing peace with north korea is not aligning with a dictator? divide the country? the only people i see that are dividing the country is the left with their bullshit rhetoric and hate. CNN is fake news bro. are you a troll?

R W If Trump thought it was real he would have bought it by now. But I will wager that you would pay good money to go inside “Ark encounter”.

Scott Crockett why can't we celebrate nazis? Same reason why we can't celebrate confederates nor their stupid statues made of horrible human beings who supported the enslavement of people and didn't stand for the true American values that all men are created equal.

Lala Lolo watch the History channel.....how many shows do you see about Hitler? TONS.......... Sorry, history should always be respected. Regardless how ignorant liberals are.

Tim Olson it is well documented slavery was the reason why the South fought. Or more accurate, for states' rights, to own slave. Otherwise, the south pretty much suppoted tge federal goverment when it came to violating free states' rights when they wanted to grant annesty and turned slave into free man, not too mention all the fugitive laws they supported.

Scott Crockett we actually didn't love Vietnam vets. They didn't get a welcome home we were all pretty mean and awful to them way back when.

Dog alpha sounds like something that would be largely framed in the main office of VICE NEWS

nateman10 my comment is proven fact.

Not a Idiot Go watch some videos about creationist museums to have your worst fears confirmed.

Not a Idiot Well, those kids will...

What's she meant to do? Just give a report on the park's mere existence? She was questioning the motives behind the park's creator and visitors. That's the point of journalism! Smh people like you are so ignorant

it makes for a interesting video though. :)

john pardon As in, who cares enough to get mad

idiots thats who