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Install any custom gsi with dsu sideloader and shizuku | no root no pc tutorial 

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@EraldsonDelaCruz
@EraldsonDelaCruz 2 месяца назад
Nice im your another subscriber your're very informative 😊
@4utech
@4utech 2 месяца назад
🙏
@OneMassiveMan
@OneMassiveMan 8 месяцев назад
Thanks, I needed a way to test my app for android 14, this helped alot for app compatibility and testing different os's.
@md.aliurrahman2582
@md.aliurrahman2582 9 месяцев назад
After successful installation, i restart device but it went to to the miui new installation OS.pls help
@4utech
@4utech 9 месяцев назад
Which device?
@md.aliurrahman2582
@md.aliurrahman2582 9 месяцев назад
@@4utech redmi note 11 pro+ 5g
@harshadbachake3070
@harshadbachake3070 2 месяца назад
Thank you bro it works but i got scared for a second because I flash another file but instead of that my stock rom got install and i got scared because that was full reset and i tried rebooting but nothing works and then I decided to setup and after completion I got message of dsu 😅😅
@kh.famidarumana5432
@kh.famidarumana5432 Месяц назад
Can you say it again plz
@pavelmedvedkov7357
@pavelmedvedkov7357 Год назад
Seems like an amazing tool for devs or testers🎉
@mfaizansari2535
@mfaizansari2535 Год назад
Sir DSU sildeloader app keep closing automatically when it gets root permission
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Which version u r using And which root method u r using
@mfaizansari2535
@mfaizansari2535 Год назад
@@4utech DSU loader Version 2.03 Android 10 REALME C20 magisk rooted
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Message me at telegram @pankspoo
@benmoore8718
@benmoore8718 Месяц назад
android 14 s24 ultra, in nofications i get *its instaed successfully, please restart your device* i tap on restart button and wait without tapping anything when it gets opened again nothing changes
@Unknowndarkness7
@Unknowndarkness7 23 дня назад
Is it possible if I can do this with my cat s42 phone
@farabixhowdhury
@farabixhowdhury 2 месяца назад
Sir after gsi permanent. Can i come my main system?
@4utech
@4utech 2 месяца назад
Yes nust force reboot tge device it works vice versa
@BikaChuuch0
@BikaChuuch0 5 месяцев назад
Does gsi in dsu sideloader have different performance than permanent installation in twrp?
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
No it has same performance but storage size (user data)must be bigger for better performance also
@BikaChuuch0
@BikaChuuch0 5 месяцев назад
@@4utechOh, no wonder I lag when using 5GB memory​😂
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
@BikaChuuch0 use some more storage up to 10+ gb
@BikaChuuch0
@BikaChuuch0 5 месяцев назад
Oke thanks ​@@4utech
@あMohamed_syaribuden
@あMohamed_syaribuden 2 месяца назад
Can these roms be used for Vivo y11 models or Vivo 1906, will they be compatible without bootlop
@4utech
@4utech 2 месяца назад
Please check u r device architecture using treble check app
@goatbaru
@goatbaru 9 месяцев назад
i tried Miku UI Udon and its the only one works in me. Project Elixir stuck in bootlog, Crdroid and Arrow OS says system has been destroyed , does that mean its not working in my device ?
@pawxed
@pawxed 8 месяцев назад
can you boot back to your stock os even if the system failed to boot?
@4utech
@4utech 8 месяцев назад
@_aspec1 yes just forcefully reboot the phone it's boots in to stock os
@poco236
@poco236 26 дней назад
I have moto g34 5g tried all gsi roms nothing works any sugestions?
@poco236
@poco236 26 дней назад
Rebooting to recovery or bootloader
@4utech
@4utech 23 дня назад
Which device architecture u r device has?
@ela6823
@ela6823 23 дня назад
Arm64​@@4utech
@poco236
@poco236 23 дня назад
arm64​@@4utech
@poco236
@poco236 23 дня назад
ARM64
@UZI_JJ_
@UZI_JJ_ 16 дней назад
I have flash the gsi, but it not enter to the gsi, and it reboot to stock Rom again and i cannot go to lock screen after i restart again it still cannot go to lock screen, pls help how to get in to lock screen again?
@UZI_JJ_
@UZI_JJ_ 16 дней назад
It reboot to home screen and not to the lock screen pls help 😭
@4utech
@4utech 16 дней назад
Discard gsi in notification panel. and then try
@cybergamer4227
@cybergamer4227 2 месяца назад
Can i use it for like forever? If i dont press the restart button? What happens when i restart with the main restart button when in gsi
@4utech
@4utech 2 месяца назад
Your device will boots back to stock os And again if you restart your device it boots to Custom gsi. Use maximum storage for gsi and dsu can use both stock and custom gsi as dual boot
@cybergamer4227
@cybergamer4227 2 месяца назад
@@4utech thank you!
@shahzaibmemon7971
@shahzaibmemon7971 2 месяца назад
My phone support project treble I downloaded and install correct GSI through your video but when I restart my phone it starts from my stock rom what should I do ?
@4utech
@4utech 2 месяца назад
Which device and which gsi?
@shahzaibmemon7971
@shahzaibmemon7971 2 месяца назад
Itel s23 and leaf gsi plz help
@farabixhowdhury
@farabixhowdhury 2 месяца назад
Check notification pannel and restart ​@@shahzaibmemon7971
@ordonezliamalexisg.9198
@ordonezliamalexisg.9198 7 месяцев назад
Hello bro, i’m having a problem when i install the gsi it says “Dsu sideloader installation prompt invoked, waiting user confirmation to proceed” please help me bro, thank you!
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
If u r using any finger print or pasword lock on device At this stage u will get prompt on device to unlock do it Or completely remove password lock of device while installation of gsi
@ordonezliamalexisg.9198
@ordonezliamalexisg.9198 7 месяцев назад
@@4utech i don’t use any finger or pass lock on my device
@NightcoreEmpire
@NightcoreEmpire 5 месяцев назад
Does this require unlocking the bootloader?
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Yes
@BossVila-i1e
@BossVila-i1e 11 месяцев назад
When I restarted my phone, it still realme not the gsi that I install.. how can I fix it?
@4utech
@4utech 11 месяцев назад
Which gsi u tried
@4utech
@4utech 11 месяцев назад
@user-tb8ev7yi5w check u r device videos on RU-vid with keywords
@pawxed
@pawxed 8 месяцев назад
do i need to unlock my bootloader? just curious
@4utech
@4utech 8 месяцев назад
Needs to unlock the bootloader
@Hasnain197-s5c
@Hasnain197-s5c 24 дня назад
Sir vivo y20(2021)model kay loay koi gsi romm chai plsss reply
@4utech
@4utech 23 дня назад
Messaged you on telegram
@kh.famidarumana5432
@kh.famidarumana5432 Месяц назад
Bro in redmi note 10t 5g it boots back to stock os what do i do😢.bootloader unlocked and i did what you shown
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
Which gsi ypu tried to boot
@marekpietrzyk8863
@marekpietrzyk8863 Год назад
Is there any call recording app works on shizuku without rooting ?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Ok i will serch
@samir-gn5xt
@samir-gn5xt 7 месяцев назад
Sir will it delete my data on my stock rom..?? Plz reply I wanted to know
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
No
@anuj.3kumar
@anuj.3kumar 10 месяцев назад
It doesn't working my primary rom got started with new setup page insted of rom i have installed.
@4utech
@4utech 10 месяцев назад
Which device
@criminal_ink
@criminal_ink 6 месяцев назад
Gsi booted but there is no internet by sim ...what can i do to fix it?
@4utech
@4utech 6 месяцев назад
Which device and gsi name?
@criminal_ink
@criminal_ink 6 месяцев назад
@@4utech moto g62 5G with project sakura
@4utech
@4utech 6 месяцев назад
Did u tried to change apn Go to network settings and see apn and try to change it
@Dyls.
@Dyls. 4 месяца назад
I tried it on my OPPO Reno 6 5G when it installed i restarted it but after sometime it will go into my primary os again Bootloader not unlocked and unrootable but im using shizuku
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
To use dsu sideloader you must need unlocked bootloader
@Deboram-ss9hc
@Deboram-ss9hc Год назад
Do you know if its work on a cpu architecture arm32, binder architecture 64bit?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
No it's not works on such device's
@Deboram-ss9hc
@Deboram-ss9hc Год назад
@@4utech thanks for answering!
@mr.monkey7362
@mr.monkey7362 Месяц назад
Bro i have a problem when i make restart to enter the new custom rom it returning to the primary rom why??❤
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
May be gsi unr using is not compatible with your device
@mr.monkey7362
@mr.monkey7362 Месяц назад
@@4utech my device is realme which rom do i use? (if you know)
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
Please check your device architecture using treble check app available on playstore
@mr.monkey7362
@mr.monkey7362 Месяц назад
@@4utech i forgot treble😱 thank you😂
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
Ok
@Nova-Gabimaru
@Nova-Gabimaru 4 дня назад
Is BL unlock required?
@4utech
@4utech 3 дня назад
Yes
@browny66611
@browny66611 9 месяцев назад
Device OnePlus 9rt and oxygen os 14 it works?
@4utech
@4utech 9 месяцев назад
Yes
@mdrafie7342
@mdrafie7342 5 месяцев назад
Sir My Phone Tecno Spark 5Air How To Use Dsu Sideloder and use my phone not wireless devoloper setting
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Then u need root method
@mdrafie7342
@mdrafie7342 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech ok Sir but root video link plz
@mdrafie7342
@mdrafie7342 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech ok Sir but root video link plz
@mdrafie7342
@mdrafie7342 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech ok Sir but root video link plz
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
@mdrafie7342 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WpD3SxBJaGQ.html
@rameshjha7466
@rameshjha7466 Год назад
Nice one bro
@S-1-N-X-FF
@S-1-N-X-FF 10 дней назад
Do i need to root device
@awaisanjum8660
@awaisanjum8660 7 месяцев назад
i have pixel 7 pro non rooted.. so tell me please how to install pixel Xpert using SHIZUKU?
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
What is pixel expert?
@Cxlumbxnaexe
@Cxlumbxnaexe 3 месяца назад
Hey Bro How To Fix Device Corrupt In Redmi 12 C
@4utech
@4utech 3 месяца назад
This process didn't cause any device corrupt issue If you got such issues force reboot your device using power button
@Cxlumbxnaexe
@Cxlumbxnaexe 3 месяца назад
@@4utech Yes it works, but there is no way for my phone to successfully install Miku UI?
@4utech
@4utech 3 месяца назад
@AishiteruExe bro sometimes some gsi didn't work for all devices because they are not device specific firmwares like custom rom. You need to try older versions of miku ui or any other different roms one of that may boot
@Cxlumbxnaexe
@Cxlumbxnaexe 3 месяца назад
@@4utech Okay Bro Thank you, I will try it
@FranceDanielC.Cuenco
@FranceDanielC.Cuenco 2 дня назад
hi mine keeps saying it's corrupted :
@4utech
@4utech 2 дня назад
Which device?
@PIXL._.
@PIXL._. 7 месяцев назад
Hey sir, why when i restart my device now after installing custom gsi it does not work, how do i fix this sir can you teach me?, thank you
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
Can u use root method it will work surely
@PIXL._.
@PIXL._. 7 месяцев назад
@@4utech sir I don't have any PC to root my Infinix note 10 pro and I don't know to root
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
@PIXL._. then follow this video and use proper file as per your device architecture
@PIXL._.
@PIXL._. 7 месяцев назад
@@4utech I did...
@greenlion5038
@greenlion5038 Год назад
Is unlocked bootloader is necessary? I have Android 12
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Yes
@greenlion5038
@greenlion5038 Год назад
@@4utech I have no pc unlock bootloader
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
@greenlion5038 then no
@S-1-N-X-FF
@S-1-N-X-FF 10 дней назад
Need Device root?
@AnisTheLxgend
@AnisTheLxgend 7 месяцев назад
best video subscribed.
@abdullahshamshi
@abdullahshamshi Год назад
This does require an A/B partition phone?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Yes with dynamic partition scheme please use treble check app its link is given under video description
@hwoulsetx
@hwoulsetx 7 месяцев назад
​@@4utech how abouy device doesnt support slots ? i mean i've tried fastboot getvar current-slot or fastboot getvar all and fastboot --set-active=a or b but give the device doesnt support slots;(
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
Use treble check support app If u r device don't have ab slots then it doesn't support treble so no dsu sideloader
@hwoulsetx
@hwoulsetx 7 месяцев назад
@@4utech I'm not quite understand, i've check treble info and yes supported treble, and the type of image required is "system-arm64-ab.img.xz" But i check in different way to knowing if my device is a/b partition using fastboot doesnt support slots ( not sure if device has a/b partition ) Does it "system-arm64-ab.img.xz" my device support a/b partition? 🤔
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
@hwoulsetx does it showing dynic partation support
@dyk1107
@dyk1107 Год назад
may i know what was the userdata size for?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Userdata size means storage space on the device where all u r photos, videos, apps and settings data Will be gets saved seperatly for gsi not for stock rom
@zombielittle
@zombielittle Месяц назад
Can i use the gsi as my main??
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
Yes but i did not recommend to use it as main rom
@zombielittle
@zombielittle Месяц назад
​@@4utechand also will this affect/wipe my data?
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
No. Nothing
@tereqxv
@tereqxv 4 месяца назад
Can i do it on galaxy a52 on stock oneui?
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
Yes with root
@tereqxv
@tereqxv 4 месяца назад
@@4utech Only with root? Shizuku will not work?
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
@tereqxv yes it works without root follow this tutorial
@Seybread
@Seybread 4 месяца назад
​@@tereqxvdid it work???
@arjungurjar457
@arjungurjar457 Год назад
pre partition requird? are they bugless rom ? where to find rom ?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Please check all video links there u will find
@S-1-N-X-FF
@S-1-N-X-FF 10 дней назад
Need bootloader unlock?
@4utech
@4utech 10 дней назад
Yes
@jaydenstowe0813
@jaydenstowe0813 4 месяца назад
I'm trying to install Samsung one ui on any Android
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
I did that too but not booting
@zaverive2012
@zaverive2012 4 месяца назад
will it break my realme c51 sir??
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
No
@EVN_EvAn
@EVN_EvAn 8 месяцев назад
Can the phone break??
@4utech
@4utech 8 месяцев назад
No not at all
@Lord_Aizen08
@Lord_Aizen08 9 месяцев назад
Will this work on android 14??
@4utech
@4utech 9 месяцев назад
Yes
@Lord_Aizen08
@Lord_Aizen08 9 месяцев назад
@@4utech thanks🔥
@Seybread
@Seybread 4 месяца назад
Did it work?
@Lord_Aizen08
@Lord_Aizen08 4 месяца назад
@@Seybread yes
@FanaiBiakflea
@FanaiBiakflea 10 месяцев назад
can i use miku ui in any devvice?
@FanaiBiakflea
@FanaiBiakflea 10 месяцев назад
my device is poco F5,can i use?
@4utech
@4utech 10 месяцев назад
Yes
@Seybread
@Seybread 4 месяца назад
Did it work to u?
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
Bro help me I did this and my phone Nokia c 32 when ever I restart it it's says that your phone is corrupted and may not work properly click power button too continue and the custom ROM don't work😢
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Did u checked u r device architecture using treble support app? Tell me which architecture it has? arm 64 AB, 64A ONLY, 64Bonly Also check does u r device support dynamic partation
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech Arm64 and 64 - bit
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech pls help me
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech where to see if my dynamic patriatqtion
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
In the same app it's says your device supports dynamic partation
@whatth7265
@whatth7265 Год назад
only unofficial gsi?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
What is unofficial and official gsi there are no any such things
@Ipman_bs
@Ipman_bs 7 месяцев назад
Does it work for redmi 12c?
@4utech
@4utech 7 месяцев назад
Please use treble check app and see if u r device support dynamic partation or not
@tommyromero85
@tommyromero85 6 месяцев назад
​@@4utechmine is enabled
@4utech
@4utech 6 месяцев назад
Message me at telegram @pankspoo
@LOFI-BOY_
@LOFI-BOY_ 4 месяца назад
Do i need to unlock bootloader
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
Yes
@LOFI-BOY_
@LOFI-BOY_ 4 месяца назад
And can i install custom rom which are available for my device? Visl dsu sideloder
@theforce2255
@theforce2255 5 месяцев назад
Need unlocking bootloader?
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Yes definitely
@jeraldcanete303
@jeraldcanete303 3 месяца назад
Is this worl on vivo y11 bro
@4utech
@4utech 3 месяца назад
Yes
@あMohamed_syaribuden
@あMohamed_syaribuden 2 месяца назад
​@@4utechAre you sure that the roms can be used on the Vivo y11, I also have it, so is it compatible?
@nesadlevent
@nesadlevent 9 месяцев назад
It's just keeps restart phone 2 times thats all
@4utech
@4utech 9 месяцев назад
Which device Which file u flashed
@Seybread
@Seybread 4 месяца назад
Did u fix it?
@Sphynxss
@Sphynxss 2 месяца назад
I have the same issue my device is m31s im trying to download LineageOS​. And if it's about the rom can you help me find a rom for m31s@@4utech
@charlesjohngaralda7613
@charlesjohngaralda7613 4 месяца назад
Bro help please its still realme my phone realme c55
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
What?
@charlesjohngaralda7613
@charlesjohngaralda7613 4 месяца назад
@@4utech the gsi won't work
@charlesjohngaralda7613
@charlesjohngaralda7613 4 месяца назад
@@4utech my phone has no problems tho
@4utech
@4utech 4 месяца назад
What is your device artitechure and which file u flashed
@charlesjohngaralda7613
@charlesjohngaralda7613 4 месяца назад
@@4utech arm 64 and the file I flashed pixel os and I tried Miku UI and dont work also
@PenappleYT
@PenappleYT Год назад
thanks sir please guide us more
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Yes sure
@ashishkumar-pi4ns
@ashishkumar-pi4ns 11 месяцев назад
How to root vivo x80?
@4utech
@4utech 11 месяцев назад
Message at telegram @pankspoo
@ShubhamRoy-pk4dj
@ShubhamRoy-pk4dj 6 месяцев назад
How to unlock bootloader on realme 9 pro
@4utech
@4utech 6 месяцев назад
Search in xda
@reza124iij3
@reza124iij3 6 месяцев назад
will it bootlop if wrong?
@4utech
@4utech 6 месяцев назад
Even though it bootlooops u can force reboot the phone using power button later it boots to stock os
@mickeymose9847
@mickeymose9847 6 месяцев назад
reboot directly to stock ROM?​@@4utech
@NightcoreEmpire
@NightcoreEmpire 5 месяцев назад
Yes ​@@mickeymose9847
@Seybread
@Seybread 4 месяца назад
​@@NightcoreEmpiredid it rlly work in every phone?
@NightcoreEmpire
@NightcoreEmpire 4 месяца назад
@@Seybread I haven't tried it yet
@prasadYoutube84
@prasadYoutube84 Год назад
Permanent install gsi in root without pc and without recovery
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Never install gsi permanently because it's need wiping data and they have bugs if u didn't liked the issues it's hasle to do all steps again and again
@countryland69
@countryland69 16 дней назад
THANK YOU
@4utech
@4utech 16 дней назад
🙏
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
😢my phone is restarting and restarting all over again
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Force reboot it using power button
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
I factory reset it but when ever I restart it it will show your phone is corrupted and may not work properly click power button too continue pls upload how to fix😢I'm a subscriber
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Which device u r using? It's not possible dsu sideloader didn't corrupt any device just bootloop happens if u try to flash non compatible custom gsi But simple power button force reboot boots the device orginal stock os. I am sure that u followed something different than this tutorial it may be fastboot method you may be used
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech Nokia c32
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
@@4utech I pres power button and I open the phone but when I restart it it's say that's it corrupted and may not work properly
@ToolboxMinecraf
@ToolboxMinecraf 3 месяца назад
itel A70 install custom ROM
@4utech
@4utech 3 месяца назад
Yes it should work but check your device architecture and choose files according to them
@Thunder-Clap
@Thunder-Clap Год назад
Thankyou
@sidbull8242
@sidbull8242 Год назад
No need to unlock bootloader?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Did u watched the intro and video description. It needs unlocked boot
@axentzy.8534
@axentzy.8534 Год назад
installation prompt invoked, how to fix this!
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Remove pin of finger print lock
@axentzy.8534
@axentzy.8534 Год назад
@@4utech thnks bro ill try later
@axentzy.8534
@axentzy.8534 Год назад
@@4utech bro custom gsi can boost my perfrmance?
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
No
@KSoppo104
@KSoppo104 9 месяцев назад
My device root and twrp
@4utech
@4utech 9 месяцев назад
If it's rooted then use use root method give access to dsu sideloader tand use
@ahmadhifzul6152
@ahmadhifzul6152 6 месяцев назад
Root or not?
@4utech
@4utech 6 месяцев назад
It's a non root method
@arjungurjar457
@arjungurjar457 Год назад
i think this is developer things? not for daily driver
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
If u gets something to try without need of root and PC without any harmful side effect what's the issue to try!
@white.inc31
@white.inc31 8 месяцев назад
Bro how to enable sticky mode to stay on gsi
@4utech
@4utech 8 месяцев назад
There is option available in dsu sideloader app setting u can use that But never use that because if something goes wrong u r orginal rom will not boot
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
Bro reply pls
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
What?
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
What
@cyrilldarren5465
@cyrilldarren5465 5 месяцев назад
I cant mesage you on telegram
@4utech
@4utech 5 месяцев назад
Message in insta
@DorothyWilson-o2p
@DorothyWilson-o2p Месяц назад
33279 Russel Way
@4utech
@4utech Месяц назад
What?
@tomriddle8928
@tomriddle8928 Год назад
Any solution for this? "invalid avb footer dsu"
@4utech
@4utech Год назад
Check u r installation is it correct?
@tomriddle8928
@tomriddle8928 Год назад
@@4utech Yes, of course, in fact when I activated the root installer of the app it stopped showing me the logs but in exchange a DP of Android 14, pixel 5 was installed, but the gsi of MyUi, flyme and Miui did not work.
@tomriddle8928
@tomriddle8928 Год назад
I know that my phone should boot those three gsi because of a youtuber who has already tested them on my device, a moto g100, and in fact tested them using DSU, but he doesn't know how to give me a concise answer either.
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