Derek shows us a gas tutorial on the correct way to install a free standing gas cooker. You must be gas safe registered to be able to work on gas. this video is designed to help trainee gas engineers in their training.
doing my acs gas training and have watched 5 or 6 of your videos to refresh my memory. Much better than my tutors at the gas training centre lol Thanks mate
Came here to try and find out just how much a botch the guy who installed my gas hob and propane bottle did. Nearly a week later, having occasionally caught the whiff of gas I pulled the electric oven out from underneath and fired some kitchen cleaner at the cooper pipe junction. It immediately started buzzing and bubbling. Half the bottle of gas is gone. And I'm probably quite lucky. Obviously the bottle is now off. Obviously now I have to pay someone to come and do it properly.
Good video and informative, but aren't you supposed to do a let by test and soap spray the ECV and inlet flex to the meter to check for leaks before the meter governor every time you do a tightness test ?
thank you for the video it explained what has to be done and why it costs a few bob to have a gas safe engineer install it properly. Am I correct in thinking that if you are replacing a quite ancient old cooker where the incoming gas supply is just above the skirting board, then new metal piping has to be run to get the hose connection to a minimum of 750mm above the floor?
Why should you not use boss white on gas when it says its ok to use? Or do you mean that you prefer boss green which is thicker texture. Personally i fernox hawk white or locktight 577
If you have ever tried to undo a union with boss white on it you will realise it’s not suitable even though it says it’s ok for gas. It might be ok for you to use it but not the poor engineer who has to undo the joint
Hi Derek, does this video still apply to regulations in 2022 or have they changed, because a gas safe engineer came round and had to alter the pipework and fit a new bayonet to connect to the back of the free standing cooker, but he's put the bayonet wall plate in at 750 h and angled it away from the wall so now the cooker won't go back where it was originally and now it sticks out by atleast 2 inches from the worktop and the same gap at the back, he's said that's how it's got to be now, could he of used an online bayonet wall plate as you have in this video or does it now have to be angled away from wall, what he's done doesn't seem right as I can't push my cooker back, any advice is welcome, thx
@@tomkatgastraining hi, thanks for getting back to me, the guy has done exactly what you advised not to do at 5:30 in the video, I could see my end its not right for our cooker but he insisted it was new regs 2022 and had to be that way and we should get a different cooker, quality hey!, I'll call them back and hopefully they will rectify it properly. Thanks again
Hey - Great video. I scoured the Internet to understand how to remove my micropoint hose. Turns out I was just too scared to pull it but you have me the confidence to do so. Keep up the good work - and know that you've made a difference today. Thank you
Great work.. 👍🏾👍🏾 I have a doubt. I am to move in a property, I want to know how to find if their kitchen is compatible to use dual cooker. There a Red switch on the wall and states ‘Cooker’. Does it mean this switch will connect to electric part of Owen? Thanks..
If this video is for training purposes only you have missed few things like beynut facing dwon removing gas meter before soldering ect I do apologise not telling u off just bit more details helps people like me
Great videos, probably the best on you tube and keep them coming.. but would you not normally remove the gas meter before you solder the back plate to the pipe work..
james turk no I always leave the test nipple out of the meter when soldering and I would only remove the meter if I was soldering with in 2 meters of the meter or in a meter box.
@@tomkatgastraining Hi Derek, great tip, so would you always remove the meter when installing a gas pipe on a new system, i.e oil to gas conversion (I normally work on medium pressure, as is most meters in greater Belfast) .
Hi you said that the hose must alway look down, my one is looking sideways, if I kept it that way, and made sure its nice a tight, will that be a problem or dangerous
This is a tough one. I just moved into a flat with gas and electric. The gas is a third of the cost of the electric per Kwh but then you have to factor in the cost of installing a gas cooker.
My Oven no longer works right, I put the food In for the right time and temperature as of the box. And say a Pie, It's still cold In the Middle, and I did one of those cook In a plastic tray spaghetti Bolognese It was still Frozen In the Middle. So I have to get a New one, as I am In a flat top floor, I need those rings that turn off If they blow out (old one doesn't have these), It has the Angled Bayonet plug on It (New Hose). Now (Hypothetically) I have to have a Council Worker to put It In. He will have no time to Mess about like You have, So Worried FY!. I still need to Buy a Cooker, I want a eye level grill, there are No cupboards around the top. The one I have has the grill In the top of the Oven. I m single so not a big Oven needed. With so many I'm lost to which one. I don't really want to buy Blind off the Net. I can't measure anything and can't work out Numbers as I have Dyscalculia.
where did you get this cooker from ? Of all the cookers i bought, no one did all of that work to fit a cooker, they just came around connected the two ends in less than a minute and gone.
Hi there. I had a question….. since the government is banning gas from 2025, dont you think gas engineers will be out of jobs? Or will they be installing hobs only. Im asking because I’m interested in doing a gas course but I’m worried that I won’t be having a job in a few years and my course will go to waste.
They are not banning gas they have just announced they are delaying for another 5 years so it will be no gas in new build homes by 2030 but that will probably change again
Tom, have you had customers moan about some cookers not pushing back far enough because of the bayonet fitting. Even when the bayonet is in the specified position to the manual. What else can you do?
Good video for someone who like myself has to prepare for installation of the gaspipe through the wall into a new kitchen by drilling the hole for it prior to the gas fitter visit.
@@Shellcleanit the extraction has to be the correct type I would get a gas engineer to advise you first before buying one if you have no opening windows or back door in the kitchen
No you can’t it’s against the law. You can disconnect and reconnect for cleaning but you can’t install. In 2018 they made it illegal for engineers to sign off appliances not installed by themselves.
Can you explain how you did the tightness test using the evo equipment, i am used to the process of having to Letby, stabilasation, then tightness test. I saw you do only one single process.
I'm not a gas engineer; I've recently ordered a new gas cooker, and I found your video interesting and informative. I've watched the entire video plus adverts. Thank you so much for teaching us non-gas engineers something (don't worry, I've hired a gas engineer from the company I've ordered the appliance from, they'll also uninstall and take away the old one). Very engaging.
As with any hose it’s all about carrying out a risk assessment on the condition of the hose. It passed a tightness test with no drop what so ever and the hose had no cracks or deterioration so I dreamed it safe to use
If you are working within 2 m of the meter yes but if you are a trained gas engineer then you would take all the correct precautions so you wouldn’t need too.
If it didn't cost to much people wouldn't be taking chances when the law come out they should have brought out cheaper ways to install a gas cooker it's not far off hundred pounds for one or two hours job
Great Video? In what way? He didn’t do anything to ensure isolation of the main gas supply. Sure the valve at the meter was closed or shutoff when he was doing the leak test/tightness test but there was no means to prevent opening of that valve when he had an open end on the supply to the cooker.
Tom Sephton-Brown all the correct test had been carried out on the gas supply to be able to work on it . I guess with your comment you are not a gas engineer but thanks for your comment and watching
Tomkat Gas Training my comment was that you had carried out the leak test but not put in place any controls...at least not shown on the video...to prevent the gas valve at the meter being opened in error whilst you were working on it. A simple means such as zip tie or a chain and padlock around the valve lever would have gone a long way to maintain that isolation. Maybe you did it and didn’t show it in the video but it was a training video after all.
Tom Sephton-Brown all appropriate precautions were taken when working on the installation. I never left site at any time and the customer was informed of everything that was going on.
Tomkat Gas Training nevertheless what I’m recommending is a safer procedure and it appears from your replies that you accept that. Your training video made no mention of isolation from the main gas supply so the precautions that you took as described in your reply to me, whilst not adequate in my opinion, were not explained to the intended trainees in your video.
As you know the video is made for trainees they are taught the procedure for tightness testing if I had to go through the procedure on every video I would be repeating myself over and over again and the videos would be an hour long and no one would watch them. I still guess with the comments you have come out with you are not a gas engineer or trainee gas engineer so this video as I said at the beginning of all my gas videos is not for the have a go DIYer.
In 2009 we changed from corgi to gas safe so please make sure your cooker is installed by a gas safe registered gas engineer who is qualified on cookers as not all engineers are qualified on all appliances. Than you 👍🏻
Thanks Derek, well explained and good camera work. I'm a design engineer (and not qualified in gas work). The reason I have sought and found your website is probably common to many people. I have a gas cooker, which has been un-plugged and re-plugged from the gas supply on a few time (when decorating, or maybe when cleaning). I'm replacing this cooker with an equivalent type - sizewise etc, just more modern -same manufacturer. When I read the sales blurb, it stated that a qualified gas-safe engineer was required to install the replacement cooker, IF the manufacturer's hand book said so. I looked up my replacement on-line (Hotpoint, similar physical model) handbook ,which gave the measurements for installation and was very vague as to whether I needed (by law) for a Gas-safe engineer to install it. In my case, I could simply plug in a standard commercial bayonet gas connector (the hose is in good condition) and simply wire up an electric plug to have a fully functioning gas cooker. Do i still need to pay for an additional gas engineer to check installation - without an engineer check, does simply plugging in an equivalent model (but not exactly the same ) invalidate my defence (when I inevitably end-up in court) for correct installation?
I am in the process of making a video on this but in short a new gas cooker will need to be installed and commissioned by a gas engineer that is competent to do so and gas safe registered or you are breaking the law
Thank you for the great informative video Derek! Question: If you have disconnected the gas hose from the bayonet and no longer using it. As the bayonet is self ceiling… do you need to cap anything at the end of it? Or not as it’s self ceiling? It will be in use again in a years time, for when we do our renovation to the kitchen But for now we’re using an electric oven. Please advise…
@@tomkatgastraining I am a newly qualified gas engineer. I’m only asking as I’ve not had to tackle that question as of yet. So would I cap the end of the pipe that was originally connected to the bayonet?
Nice. Thanks for mentioning that under IGEM/G/11 you must do risk assessment on all appliances you encounter! Can imagine how many people must ignore that. Where would be the ideal location to fit a purge point? Thanks Derek 👍🏻 Asian Jon. Training
