I enjoy these videos so much, and the production quality has really improved to broadcast quality since the start. I am so happy to see that you are able to give us these fine videos and afford what looks to be a wonderful home for your family. I rejoice at your success.
Way to bare the nitty gritty on these issues, Kirby! Glad to see you pull back the curtain & show some real life issues, and your honest reactions too.
We’re eventually going to do a similar room. We have a historical home, built like a tank, with 23 rooms. We’re having artisans restoring it a room at a time. (One highlight is the master staircase brass railings which were built in 1782 in France. Most of the house was brought in bit by bit from Europe and finished in the 1940s.) I’ve tried all the “self contained” units - my wife says no way they are passing muster. 💨 We recently put in quite an extensive exhaust over Wolf stoves, which had to be equalized (as you discussed). Might look into the system you are using. Thank you for your excellent content channel 👍
I live in a 170 sq ft cabin in the woods. I purchased a Rabbit Air A3. It’s an amazing product and I couldn’t recommend it enough! I put it above me in the loft, facing out. The smoke rises and drifts over to the air cleaner and the machine takes care of the rest. I do have a small fan acting as an exhaust fan (negative pressure) and have the cleaner on the highest setting. I never have a smoky cabin. Of course, when I am done, I open the windows and flush clean air in for a couple of minutes. I leave the unit on throughout the night and by morning it’s like I never smoked a cigar! I’ve smoked maybe 70ish cigars since mid November when I got the Rabbit Air. You would never know that I smoke in it!!! If anyone has any questions about the unit and my set up, or if it will work for you, just let me know!!
@@freg1959 I think the A3 would do it no problems! It’s all about directing the smoke to the unit. I would put a fan in front of the door leading to the rest of the house, blowing away from the door. This will keep the smell from escaping. But as far as room size goes, you should be covered.
@@freg1959 with that being said, I think a lot of it depends on if you have carpet, and or like furniture that isn’t leather. I don’t have anything in my cabin that can hold smells. That’s where this gets a little tricky!
@@freg1959 same boat but with the cold. Didn’t want to go 6 months of not smoking. Well, now I’m so used to smoking indoors, I probably won’t smoke much outside anymore!! At least bit the good stuff!!
Spending copious amounts of money to install a complex, industrial air filtration unit just to be able to smoke inside is ludicrous. Especially when he lives in Texas and could step outside where he please
Wife and I are building within the next 2 years and I have the go ahead to have my own smoking lounge and walk-in in the basement. I jumped on this video as I'm looking for info on how best to clean the air and remove my smoke once we get to building. Thanks Kirby!
A surprisingly complex problem because any exhausted air has to be replenished. And you can’t simply replenish w unconditioned fresh air. To do so without conditioning, you might as well just sit outside.
@@kirbyallison absolutely right. And our situations will be different as I’ll be sealing my room instead of leaving it open to the rest of the house. It seems that you have found a great option for your setup and I’ve bookmarked the CamClean page to discuss with my HVAC installers when it gets time to consider options.
I am personally relegated to my hut in the garden. Granted it is quite large and has a wood stove, but, in the depths of winter it requires forethought to use which is not ideal. Good luck, it looks like your new home is going to be wonderful.
Well, a setback for sure, but as you said, a problem known is a problem that can be fixed :) My parents have had like 3 new homes built over the years, so I definitely understand the impatience that can come with new home construction, and issues that can pop up - but when it's all said and done, you will enjoy it, and you can have Eddie (and others, of course) over for a visit! :)
Oh Kirby, Now you make me want to install one too, and I don't even smoke at home. Is that the Terry Haste coat? Absolutely beautiful! Can we have one more video in the Double Commission series, where you evaluate the two ensembles after a couple of months wear, please. Best of luck with the housebuilding, I bet it will include a great dressing room.
Kirby another great video. Glad to see that you will be able to enjoy your passion for cigars at home. A smoking room, a walk in humidor and fairly probable a larger than before walk in wardrobe. I do hope your wife and children are getting dedicated spaces of their own. Looking forward to more home building content and London content to come.
Kirby, I have to add a comment to compliment you on your outfit in this video. I, like everyone else who follows your content, recognize your jacket. It looks amazing and fits perfectly! Congrats on adding this piece to your wardrobe.
The easiest way you can tell when those need replacing is when can still smell it. Don't let manufacturers tell you how long something will last they will almost always at the very least cut the life of it in half for the sake of profit. Just have a complete change out ready for when it does reach end-of-life. At that point in time you know pretty much how long that system will last.
I will definitely be doing this for my next home build! Thanks for blazing the trail. That carbon cost is pretty cheap, given how long you can use them before buying new ones. I'd save up monthly for them over their life, and it wouldn't impact the budget whatsoever. Now, when will you be blazing the trail on a walk-in humidor at home?! 😁
Ha, I was once living in a new apartment building which was very airtight with very effective central air system. They had the settings adjusted all wrong, with far too much air being sucked out, and when the a/c service guys came in to do the measurements they were laughing and saying they're not surprised I was complaining of my ears popping, as the negative air pressure was well past what their equipment could even measure! Our doors to the inner hallway had letter slots with hinged doors, and if you cracked the letter slot door open it would start to whistle because of the massively rushing air!!
@@kirbyallison I am building a 9 car simi-detached garage that also has an office in it. I was just going to use exhaust fans but never thought about the pressure differences when all the doors and windows are closed. If you are ever in Fredericksburg I would love to join you for a smoke.
Kirby, love the videos as always! Congratulations on your new house build and looking forward to hearing more about home. Would you consider making a video or talking about a much more affordable option utilizing inline fans and filters to maybe add in to an existing room to one's home? I know i dont have $10k to throw at a filtration system but I would consider a $1k upgrade or install to a room I currently have to smoke inside.
I’m still working on the best option for lower budgets. If the room is closed off from the rest of the house, the large IQ Air with the carbon canisters combined with an air exhaust is probably the best option. For long term, bringing in fresh air is the best option but it requires the air to be replenished.
I feel like there might be further considerations here. Can you have HVAC returns in the room? Will that take smoke into your HVAC system? How about sealing doors? Electrical outlet opening? Smoke seems to find a way…just curious.
@@orion7741 that’s good to know. My hesitation with entertaining this idea has been that there is a cold air return in the room I would use. I feel like you might need to isolate the room from your HVAC system - but I can’t confirm that.
Specifically designed the HVAC to have NO AIR RETURNS to the primary, household HVAC system. The 500-700 CFM of air extraction (to the filtration unit) will be more than adequate to control the FLOW of air in the house to ensure that smoke does not leave the area. The space will be totally open to the rest of the house (again - limitations of the house), so controlling the flow of air is super essential. It no doubt would have been an easier problem to solve had this been in a closed room. I simply don’t have the space. The formal living was originally going to be a small study. We decided to instead open it up to the formal living to create a larger usable space for the house.
Hello, Kirby! I am interested in your opinion about the difference between dark chili and mohagony color. Which one would be smarter or more formal because you once said, that dark chili is the best choice among oxblood or walnut/coffee
Didn’t see a reply so I thought I’d weigh in. Any shoe in whatever shade of brown can’t really be considered formal, black shoes for formal. The bigger consideration however, isn’t color so much as construction, that is to say style of the shoe. Generally slip on shoes are less formal (opera pumps being a notable exception) than lace up shoes. For lace shoes a closed lace system is more formal than open lace system (read Oxford vs derby). Less adornments tend to be more formal (e.g. a smooth calf wholecut is more formal than a brogued wingtip). Hope that helps.
There are no return vents in this area. Given the flow of air (500-700 CFM), there should be good enough control of the FLOW of air to prevent it from leaking out of the room before being filtered.
Great video Kirby. Respectfully, however, your math on the approximate time before you have to replace the filters is not correct. You should have well over a decade before you have to even think about replacing the filters based on the depreciation rate. Specifically, if they told you it has "92% of its useful life left after 16 to 18 months of usage", then all else equal, that really means it depreciates barely 8% over a 16 to 18 month period. That's an average of 17 months to depreciate 8% (the midway point of their estimate). This means on a monthly basis (again all else equal), it should depreciate about 0.47% per month (8/17 = 0.47). That works out to 5.65% annual depreciation (0.47 x 12 = 5.65). Hence it should not become completely unusable for close to 18 years (100/5.65 = 17.7). Again, all else being equal (for all those cigar loving math geek accountants out there like me who may love your content. LOL. Keep 'em coming. Love your channel. God Bless)
Carbon has a natural half-life because it is still interacting w the air and degrading even it in use. But I hope you are correct! That would be incredible!
@@kirbyallison agreed. It seemed too good to be true which is why I thought I would send over the math. But that said its a massive disconnect for them to purport 92% remaining useful life after 16-18mths but somehow the remaining 92% can deteriorate over the next 16-18. The truth lay somewhere in the middle of that warped distribution curve. LOL. Love your channel. Especially the cigar videos!
😂 I came to the comments to tell you to not have one extract point at that CFM then saw the rest. Hope you still went for multiple points? It will lower the noise too because the velocities lowered. Can’t easily clean flexi duct if ever you would need to either which is possible given what it’s to be extracting.
Not trying to be rude, but how did the guy you interviewed not catch the ducting issue when you guys were standing in the home? He literally sells these units for a living. Interesting.
It seems like a huge pain in the ass to do it inside the home. If you can build a small guest house with a small room to make the cigar room, that might be way easier. You can have one unit and a small camfill. I'm sure the building department for mechanical permits will give you a tough time having a mixed-use of residential and commercial units.
Same technology, honestly. They still use particular and molecular filtration. Their main difference is in the design and application of technology through specialized design. Had I an unlimited budget and if I were designing the home totally from scratch, it might be a consideration. But I think I’ll get just as an effective system with this CamCleaner unit for a fraction of the cost. I’m just having to manage the design integration myself… few hiccups but I think we’ll get there.
What diameter flex line has the 350cfm restriction? Currently looking at 8” flex being installed and thinking I may end up having the same issue as you.
They’re not residential HVAC consultants… I reached out to a mechanical engineer, but they all specialize in commercial applications and not residential. Surprisingly difficult to find someone in residential HVAC with much sophistication…
I never understood why they couldn't use 6, or 9 inch PVC instead of custom ducting. Isn't most ducting about 6 or 9 inches? and I think pvc would hold less dirt.
Don't take this in a wrong way, but one thing I noted is that you are not interrupting your guests as much as before, which is a great improvement. In the past videos, it was a bit painful to hear the conversation with your constant "yeah", "right", etc interjecting into the conversation flow.
I think your best best is an isolated room. I think your wife is going to be pretty unhappy with a smoke lounge next to the dining room not that it isn't a great setting.
nonsense. you would be very surprised at how women actually find it attractive and sex to see their man enjoying a cigar or pipe. it is in their nature to be turned on by masculine behaviours. on the surface some women may complain, but underneathe it all they actually do find it attractive. men just need to be men and hold their ground and be the kings of their castles. the women will appreciate it.
Sadly I don’t think my wife is in the lot of women that enjoy cigar smoking… but tolerating the habit is cheaper than a divorce! Lol. Yes, well, a dedicated study would be idea. We just don’t have the sq footage.
@@kirbyallison I'm still jealous your wife is allowing this. what a cool lady! looking forward to the completed setup and appreciate the cigar knowledge. I learned how to properly light from your video with the Sahakians.
Wouldn't it mean that now the whole house would smell like cigars? I'm not convinced it would scrub the air at 100%... I feel like you could still smell it no?
Well… there will realistically be some residual odor. I’m going to have to just figure out how bad it is. However, based on my experience w the office, I think it will be very manageable.
@@kirbyallison That's a very expensive "we'll have to see" Kirby, but I'll be here to find out! Love the content Sir. You've deeply inspired me to dress better, smoke better and appreciate the finer things in life. Your channel has been a rich education from the beginning
If you only used 8% in two years or 4% in one year you should only have to replace the carbon canisters if you continue to use them at the same rate for 25 years? (4% per year 25 years= 100% or 25 years.) But, I am not an engineer..
That unit is clearly overkill for a small house lounge, and way outside plausibility for 99% of people or more. I request and suggest it be mentioned to Camfill that they ought to be developing a smaller alternative specifically for home cigar lounges. This channel could prove it a worthwhile investment to them. I wager there would be a rather large pool of buyers if it were smaller and in the 5-10k range.
Fireplace doesn’t work with suction … if it’s real fireplace the smoke from the fireplace will not go through the chimney instead it will be in the room outside the chimney
New builds can be a headache.. with you being so busy with ur business and your youtube channel might be hard to stay on top of the build. If you're going thru a builder it might be a good idea to get a 3rd party outside inspector that you hire yourself to check everything.. ( the builder probably wont like it but its about the final product that your paying for being done right and to actually get what you have requested and paid for) no matter how reputable the builder is all people make mistakes. Which can happen anywhere along the build process.
My large garage has a bar fridge, large TV, cabinet for bourbon & scotch, a couple lazy boy chairs, and best of all the wife never comes out to the garage. Why would I smoke a cigar anywhere else?
@@HamiltonRb Like Kirby, I live in TX, and while not a desert, the inside of my garage can easily top 120 degrees in the summer, and that's with 95% humidity. It's like being in a sauna. I've taken cigars out of the humidor and after a few minutes outside they're too wet to smoke. I'm sure if you live somewhere it's reasonably comfortable outside or in the garage, or have a conditioned garage space, it's a great option. I love smoking on my back patio when the weather is nice, and that's a pretty broad range, but there are times when it's just too uncomfortable.
@@mph7282 I live in Toronto in the spring to fall months and the temperatures are usually in the 60-80 range, but I know how humid Texas gets in the summer
@@TheTerryE Well when I mean stone I mean most UK houses and apartments have concrete, brick and breeze blocks for the main structural parts and also sometimes brick interiors. And also all old houses in the countryside are brick and concrete.
Weight bearing masonry would increase the build cost by 30%… just not in the fold for now. But maybe one day in the future! If I had the money, it’s definitely how I would do it!
Kirby, it's not the carbon filters you should worry about, it's your lungs and various mucus membranes in your body that are much more difficult to replace! Why not simply smoke outdoors on your property while taking a lovely walk and save yourself a bundle so you could buy even more proper cigars? Just saying....
Just want to be able to smoke in the comfort of my home… irrational, I know. But it isn’t like I play golf or watch sports on a big television… totally particular to how I enjoy to spend my time.
Cigars are meant to be enjoyed, it's not a (nicotine) addiction. I just stop smoking at the end of September and will light my first cigar again on Feb 27th (Cigar day). During the period Feb - Sep, the weather is nice and I can smoke outdoors.
My wife is latina, 5’2” and 110 lbs but she’s a firecracker if things go don’t her way. When I do get a small victory, I celebrate with a cigar….but outside 🥹
@@Kyle_da_athlete exactly. she would appreciate him much more if he just stood his ground and be the man and leader of the household and marriage. women dont truly like weak men that always do what the women say. they want a man that is willing to stand up to them and take charge.
@@orion7741 that is indeed a fact. I respect women but like Tate said, the roles of men and women are very different and unequal and that is not a bad thing. Women will say they want a pushover but they don't really want that, and I've come to that conclusion since what women say and actually do is completely different. They want to be led but in a dignified way, which is the role of the man to fulfill that leadership. I could never understand why dudes allow a woman to control them, and then talk about it like it's some badge of honour 😂
