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Hello and Welcome to another Budget Builds Episode where today we're going to be diving down into the Pentium D, and why it is so bad, the story behind it...And ofcourse just how well it holds up in 2020.
So join me today as we find out just where Intel went down hill, and managed to bodge together a release, with something we've all probably used, and something we all probably nearly got set on fire by.
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@dcikaruga
@dcikaruga 4 года назад
My Pentium D 830 was the only CPU that died on me without overclocking, I was playing Bioshock and the the game just crashed, I then noticed a burning smell and the PC just wouldn't start up again. After opening it up, I found my CPU had burn marks on them, luckily the MB was fine, so I got a Core2Duo, and was impressed how cool it was.
@burntoutelectronics
@burntoutelectronics 10 месяцев назад
The 800 series was definitely a good bit worse than the later 900 line of Pentium D’s. They were made on a bugger node and chewed enough power to have a TDP of 130W! Later D’s we’re 90W
@dcikaruga
@dcikaruga 10 месяцев назад
@@burntoutelectronicsOnly later, I find out my Zalman Cooler (the old circular ones with the fan blowing through isn't of down into the MB) was rated 95 TDP while the CPU was 130.
@grizzomble
@grizzomble 7 месяцев назад
Back before they changed the socket every other week
@centigrams
@centigrams 4 месяца назад
I overclocked a 945 to 5GHz. It was drawing 200W or so. But the Rampage Formula X48 held up. 1.7v as I did not care about the CPU at all, I just wanted my CPUZ Validation file :) The 8xx series was easier to kill as it was a hot mess and it barely held itself together. But in general, besides that 8xx series, socket 775 CPUs are really hard to kill
@angelpc22
@angelpc22 Месяц назад
1st versions A0 B0 was very hot...I had D805 90nm B0...That was slow but hot :D ...but later 65nm C1 and finally the D0 revision D935 D945...yeah that was good, modarated warm. Good speed. Very sad...the D970 3.8GHz not appear on market and Intel not create extreme edition D0 revision too... that would be interesting CPU But yeah core2 E6600 easy beat it
@-w3e-bonkumiru750
@-w3e-bonkumiru750 4 года назад
Whoever did the optimisation for doom 2016 is a god damn wizard... the fact that doom ran better than csgo and halo reach is amazing
@Cypher402
@Cypher402 3 года назад
The lead dev on the 'id' engines, John Carmack is a wizard of computer science! Look him up, he created many of the 3d technology's used today and worked on those engines first hand. The original Quake and Doom, were ground breaking and I believe most of the engine work was all him. Doom 1 can run on pretty much anything with a screen, even a pregnancy test IIRC.
@tinfoilhat3268
@tinfoilhat3268 2 года назад
@@Cypher402 John "Only corporeal by choice" carmack
@Sylusssss
@Sylusssss 2 года назад
Elder wizard supreme high druid CS
@filiplaskovski9993
@filiplaskovski9993 2 года назад
@@Cypher402 used to be back in the days he left id a long time ago and had nothing to do with doom 2016 but left his mark in his id tech engine for other devs to expand on!!
@masterkamen371
@masterkamen371 4 месяца назад
It also runs 60fps locked on PS4 with close to max graphics. I was pleasantly surprised to see it run as well as it does considering that most recent games don't bother with major optimization.
@TheSpotify95
@TheSpotify95 4 года назад
Aah yes, the Pentium Doesn't. There's a reason why it's called that...
@DeezNuts-fo6ob
@DeezNuts-fo6ob 4 года назад
*playing TheMoreYouKnow*
@jaygeorge1234
@jaygeorge1234 4 года назад
Pentium deez nuts
@punker4Real
@punker4Real 4 года назад
and the core2 quad was the same thing a "dual dual core"... ..... google core2quad delided it was not tel the I7 because of the High speed DMI much better
@spicywolf6718
@spicywolf6718 4 года назад
Nothing wrong with the late Core 2, sure E8400 are only good for protecting LGA sockets, but I own Q9300,Q9400, Q9650 and to this day run a QX9770. My QX9770 has a gentle 800MHz OC (400x10, RAM at 1600C8) in a P5E64 WS Evolution that just so happens to be RTX equipped. Ark survival evolved, 1080P Ultra :50-60FPS, WOT 1080P ultra will see up to ~200FPS on standard client (haven't updated). Due to my lack of data I don't have the ability to download titles I won't play just to use them as a benchmark but it's holding in well.
@EarthboundApocalypse
@EarthboundApocalypse 4 года назад
@@spicywolf6718 - I personally don't believe you, just because of Ark game. It's such a taxing PC game, that virtually there's no evidence of someone in YT running it smoothly on ultra, when recorded off-screen with that hardware config, be it C2Q or C2E. It's one of those so-called "PC melters" no high-end older PCs can run without stutters, even with overkill RAM and storage solutions, like SSDs.
@amused7928
@amused7928 4 года назад
This had inspired me to make my own product.... Ladies and gentlemen I am proud to present the front halves of two aging Ford Mondeos welded together.
@armorgeddon
@armorgeddon 4 года назад
So does it take a second driver to make it all-wheel drive and all-wheel steering or have you linked the mechanical components?
@aaaabababa
@aaaabababa 4 года назад
@@armorgeddon Yes.
@amused7928
@amused7928 4 года назад
@Tone. Ah you want the extreme edition... Well you'll have to pay double for about 5% more performance from the Sli engines
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 4 года назад
2 Mondeo engines welded together is what made an Aston Martin V12.
@InternetUsername
@InternetUsername 4 года назад
**smacks roof** This baby can tear itself in half in twenty second flat.
@tOSdude
@tOSdude 4 года назад
I threw a Pentium D in an SFF gx620 and sold it as a home media device. Dude later contacted me about a dead power supply.
@Konkretertyp
@Konkretertyp 4 года назад
Maybe the D was dead... just saying, or it fried everything :-D
@jiroyamada1139
@jiroyamada1139 4 года назад
On one dead Pentium D desktop I examined, one the inductors around the CPU socket fell off as I removed the heatsink . This meant that it got hot enough to weaken the solder joint. :O
@saade7663
@saade7663 3 года назад
Wow I have a gx620 Sff with Pentium Dork (and I played Ac4 black flag on it in 2021)
@Gold171
@Gold171 3 года назад
I have a gx620 mt I just upgraded with a Pentium D 945 however I also bought the oem dell copper heatsink designed for it. Unfortunately there is no temp sensor you can read so I used a temp gun to read it and it runs nice and cool. Never over 50 c on the heatsink. This also goes with saying the pc is also upgraded with a 600w psu and an Nvidia 9800gt. Wonderful for mid 00's games.
@clementpoon120
@clementpoon120 2 года назад
you forgot the thermal paste
@gentuxable
@gentuxable 4 года назад
I remember arguing with a mate because I told him his Pentium D is not the same as my Core 2 Duo. He said "but mine has also two cores" - "Yeah but they're both bad!"
@JamesTaylorMain
@JamesTaylorMain 3 года назад
@@camthesaxman3387 The Core 2 Duo, despite its slower clock speed, mainly because it is better designed than the Pentium D. The Pentium D is just two NetBurst processors slapped together into a single chip while the Core 2 Duo is a proper dual-core chip designed from the ground up.
@sakissakissa9050
@sakissakissa9050 2 года назад
Bad?
@gentuxable
@gentuxable 2 года назад
@@sakissakissa9050 Let's say inefficient
@masterkamen371
@masterkamen371 4 месяца назад
There's even more terribleness to it than "two of the most inefficient CPUs slapped together". It's two of the most inefficient CPUs slapped together _and_ with mind numbingly slow communication between them. Yeah, AMD 100% deservingly wiped the floor with them. It really wasn't hard to beat P4 in every category.
@ChernobylPizza
@ChernobylPizza 4 года назад
I remember back then they were calling the Prescott the "PresHOT". And then Intel combined two of them into one chip.
@clementpoon120
@clementpoon120 2 года назад
Introducing Preshott duo, a revolutionary heater you can use to cook yourself a nice piece of steak
@guymanguy5208
@guymanguy5208 2 года назад
Exactly what happened when you give Intel any Xeon atomic name ideas.
@wiliusundefined8666
@wiliusundefined8666 4 года назад
I suggest you to also take a look at Intel's Celeron D(isaster). The Celeron D was essentially a crippled Pentium 4 with 75% less L2 cache, disabled hyperthreading and a slower FSB. The "D" in it's name might let you think, it's a dual core CPU, but actually, it's in fact just a single core processor. As a result, it suffered from severe performance issues. I consider the Celeron D to be much worse than the already awful Pentium D and Pentium 4, mainly because how poor it performed, compared to it's (Netburst) Counterparts and other CPUs at the time. But this should be obvious, since it was only a low-end and low-priced product. But still, that doesn't change the fact, how terrible the Celeron D was. Even for a low budget product at it's time, this processor was just bad. In today's standards, these CPUs struggels in almost every modern applications. This makes the Celeron D barely usable in 2020, unless for very basic office tasks. As a matter of fact, this CPU has aged so incredibly bad, that even a potato is worth more money, than this piece of electronic waste. In my opinion, Netburst was just pathetic and possibly one of the worst CPU architectures in computer science history. By the way, this was a awesome, informative and entertaining video, I really enjoyed it. Keep up with the great work. One can see that you put a lot of effort into your videos. I hope my comment wasn't a disaster though.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 года назад
I remember being told to avoid them well over 10 Years ago, and would love to cover just how bad they truely are this much into the future.
@takeshi7
@takeshi7 4 года назад
But those Celeron D definitely overclock well. I got mine from 2.66 GHz to 4.13 GHz on the stock Intel heatsink.
@wiliusundefined8666
@wiliusundefined8666 4 года назад
Takeshi7 I agree with you, that is definitely true. I have a Pentium 4 630 that overclocks quite good. It appears, that celeron d and lower clocked Pentium 4 processors, aren't that bad overclockers in generall. But even if they do overclock well, I just don't prefer Netburst as much as other microarchitectures, like core or nehalem for example.
@takeshi7
@takeshi7 4 года назад
@@wiliusundefined8666 Definitely, I only had a Celeron D because I needed a cheap CPU to use in my new gaming PC while I was waiting ~6 months for Core 2 Quads to be released.
@Amerikanskis
@Amerikanskis 4 года назад
just saw this video today, good suggestion and summary.
@Generalkidd
@Generalkidd 4 года назад
This is kind of where Intel is at again with their upcoming Rocket Lake CPU's. Based on the rumors so far, it doesn't really bring anything and is mostly just a rebranded Coffee Lake CPU but with more cores and a new socket, not to mention the extremely high TDP (around 200W if I remember correctly) for the i9 K series.
@churchseraphim1380
@churchseraphim1380 3 года назад
Generalkidd? The halo guy?
@UnrealOG137
@UnrealOG137 3 года назад
Rocket lake actually has an ~18% ipc improvement, but also fewer cores at the top end.
@monkeslayer-km5ho
@monkeslayer-km5ho 3 года назад
@@UnrealOG137 I'm from the future,anandtech test the 11700k.The fps difference are quite big but it still lose to 5800x heavily despite consume power at almost 300w (in testpower benchmark) Rocket lake is 2nd netburst
@solarstrike33
@solarstrike33 3 года назад
@@monkeslayer-km5ho I hope Alder Lake's at least a little better...
@solarstrike33
@solarstrike33 3 года назад
@Harriette Chaderton Had a horrific experience with that site. I'll never use them again.
@jaygeorge1234
@jaygeorge1234 4 года назад
“My ex girlfriend loves the d... the pentium d” ghg
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 года назад
A golden quote.
@Mini-z1994
@Mini-z1994 4 года назад
Messed about with a core 2 duo e8400 a while ago, overclocked too 4 ghz with 1066 mhz ddr2 ram in a p5q premium motherboard, id say its day & night difference between the pentium d & the core 2 duo probably even without the overclock & overclocking the pentium d.
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 4 года назад
She must like it slow and hot?
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 4 года назад
@@Mini-z1994 I have a Pentium EE 965 on a P35 board. And I can get some decent clocks out of it, and its hyper threading really does make it feel a lot better than the other P4D cpu's I have. But even at close to 5 ghz it still gets outpaced by an e8400 at stock.
@purdy9431
@purdy9431 4 года назад
@@wishusknight3009 Nearly 5ghz thats a overclock that needs silicon lottery
@abcdefg9613
@abcdefg9613 4 года назад
I drilled a hole through one of these (it is actually an 820), and put it on my keys.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 года назад
Do your keys spontaneous combust?
@abcdefg9613
@abcdefg9613 4 года назад
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial No, but now I have two d s in my pants.
@Zerotwo-ks8rg
@Zerotwo-ks8rg 4 года назад
@@abcdefg9613 lol
@clementem8458
@clementem8458 4 года назад
I'm actually doing the same to the same cpu
@JulianUccetta
@JulianUccetta 4 года назад
I actually just got some CPU keychains on reddit, and one of them is a Pentium D lol
@theldun1
@theldun1 4 года назад
I bought my wife one of these and OMG hot is an understatement! The cooler was a blower style and it sounded like a f18 at full throttle 100% of the time. I should know I use to work on them. Eventually a capacitor popped and in the trash heap it went.
@lettucemayopickleketchup47
@lettucemayopickleketchup47 4 года назад
Lol
@NTSCuser
@NTSCuser 4 года назад
Ditto, the heat from my D935 fried the neighbouring caps on the motherboard.
@rale1994
@rale1994 4 года назад
Same here opening a notepad for example
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 2 года назад
Capacitors are easy to replace. The capacitor issue was quite common for the era due to corporate espionage among the capacitor manufacturers. I know, because I've replaced the caps on literal dozens of boards in the 2000's.
@binguslover0508
@binguslover0508 2 года назад
he also got divorced
@AOClaus
@AOClaus 4 года назад
I had one of the slightly lower model Pentium D in a Dell. Came with a MASSIVE heatsink. Lasted over a decade of daily use, for a couple of years I literally never turned the system off. Still worked when I sold it. With the right cooling, these things were just fine, and it did loads better than my P4 during multitasking.
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 4 года назад
We had a TON of these at work (training classrooms). It's sad when a 2GHz Core2Duo (or even a 1.8 Pentium Dual Core) ran circles around a 3.4GHz Pentium D. They ran Word and Excel decently though, so they stuck around for basic classes many years past when they should have been junked. Thankfully many failed caps on the motherboards reduced the fleet after a few years.
@Konkretertyp
@Konkretertyp 4 года назад
They would be better to stick to the older P4's or rather PIII's for simple office work than the PD's... worst choice of me and my brothers lifes :-D
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 2 года назад
I can't even remember how many motherboards from my school's "fleets" I'd recapped during the 2000's.
@pokegeaks2
@pokegeaks2 4 года назад
That epic pokemon mystery dungeon OST hell yeah, really clocking the nostalgia in this video
@erdbeerblume5237
@erdbeerblume5237 3 года назад
I was looking for this comment. I agree. That’s all
@succcocc9129
@succcocc9129 4 года назад
I bought a Pentium D for a potato. Literally.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 года назад
Id rather have the Potato
@aaaabababa
@aaaabababa 4 года назад
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i mean, the Pentium D can do a lot more then a Potato, everything you can do with a Potato you can do with a Pentium D
@panzerstef
@panzerstef 4 года назад
@@aaaabababa You can use the Pentium D to cook the potato
@aaaabababa
@aaaabababa 4 года назад
@@panzerstef aaaaand, you can cook yout Pentium D and Eat it just like the potato, you just don't need a stove or something to cook it.
@panzerstef
@panzerstef 4 года назад
@@aaaabababa The Pentium D is not that tasty, also what am I going to use to order more potatoes
@largesoda21gaming66
@largesoda21gaming66 4 года назад
You know the cpu is shit when the standard p4 can run Doom and the “better” p4D can’t run Doom
@spazjackrabbit61
@spazjackrabbit61 4 года назад
i had a pentium 4 3 ghz model and i have lot of bad memories with this cpu
@largesoda21gaming66
@largesoda21gaming66 4 года назад
SpazJR61 I had an old p4 3 ghz it ran windows xp like a charm and was always fast until the psu died
@jbgreen27
@jbgreen27 4 года назад
It ran all my games fine, but I don’t play Doom.
@scottrich976
@scottrich976 4 года назад
It can, not very well but it can run Doom. Sorry bad memory, it was the P4HT that ran doom not the D. Just opened up the case to double check.
@TheBig451
@TheBig451 4 года назад
@@thealien_ali3382 It was second rate compared to Athlon XPs and Athlon 64s of the day, and it certainly isn't "holding its own" well in anything that isn't a 2D indie title.
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 4 года назад
The ‘D’ stands for TDP
@gt362gamer
@gt362gamer 3 года назад
XD.
@boingkster
@boingkster 4 года назад
Man I would've killed for one of these back in the day in my Inspiron 8100. I think it had the Celeron D option, bare bones basic stuff. I had to get into the bios to up the VRAM allocation from 64MB to 128MB, but there was a system cap at 92MB... good God how frustrating.
@Wokiis
@Wokiis 4 года назад
The nasty thing with the celeron D is that the “D” isn’t for “dual core”. :(
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
@@Wokiis yeah, it standa for "dog shit". Not only it stinks but it also adhere to you when you grr in contact with it ..
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 4 года назад
Inspiron 8100, a typical Quanta-made heavyweight laptop with two bays up front? That one is Pentium 3 and Celeron, it has no Pentium 4, Pentium D or Celeron D option. The processor can be replaced if you fully disassemble the computer, it's held in a screw actuated PGA ZIF socket, it's not soldered in, but of course still only of that same generation supported by 815EP chipset. But i wager a guess, you misspoke and actually mean an entirely different computer.
@boingkster
@boingkster 4 года назад
@@SianaGearz yep, fuzzy memories at this point. I bought it in late 2005 or early 2006 to go to uni with. It was a desktop. May have been a Dimension? It's still in a spare room or garage somewhere, I should dig it out and see what it's up to.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 4 года назад
@@boingkster Mhm a Dimension 8100. Closer, but still not it. A really arcane early Pentium 4 box, from the era when Pentium 4 was flat out significantly slower, in absolute terms, than a Pentium 3 or Celeron, before they doubled the clock rate on it and it started making a little bit of sense. The RAM on those was exotic RDRAM with terminator cards that were supposed to prevent RAM bus oscillation, which is not something seen before or after. I'm going to say we're looking at a Dimension 5100, 3100, or 9100.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 4 года назад
Then Intel call out AMD for gluing together CPUs when they did it first and more literally
@JeskidoYT
@JeskidoYT 4 года назад
When did they do that?
@ForeverDiox
@ForeverDiox 4 года назад
@@JeskidoYT Believe he may be referring to the FX series, although they weren't glued together. More that the core count wasn't exactly accurate. For example, the 8xxx Bulldozer chips were foul dual core modules but still not as horrible as the Pentium D. Good article explaining it: www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/8/28/20837336/amd-12-million-false-advertising-class-action-lawsuit-bulldozer-chips
@SeabooUsMultimedia
@SeabooUsMultimedia 4 года назад
@@JeskidoYT when threadripper first came out
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 4 года назад
Well - and Intel was right. It is funny how the AMD-Fanboys can not face reality - either you say gluing chips together is bad - or it isn't. Intel did it with the PentiumD and the consumers noticed (and were not that retarder to accept it) that the performance suffered.
@luxembourger
@luxembourger 4 года назад
@@ABaumstumpf Under Computer Engineers there are no fanboys, no emotions, just specs and work cases.
@Andy-ls2kb
@Andy-ls2kb 4 года назад
FYI, the Pentium-D's were sold for much less than the Athlon X2's. The notable one was the Pentium-D 805 ($132). The cheapest Athlon X2 was $350. It was a decent overclocker, and if you did a lot of media encoding, it was a very compelling alternative to single core Athlon 64's.
@atranimecs
@atranimecs 6 месяцев назад
Had my 805 @ 3.7Ghz no problem. crazy cheap for the performance. intel really screwed up with how much they cannibalized their product line during that time.
@deathdoor
@deathdoor 4 года назад
2:30 That was the time when Intel was paying OEM to not buy and sell AMD, right? Intel was practically giving the chips for free and paying some more.
@H31MU7
@H31MU7 4 года назад
was looking for this comment haha
@silentbloodyslayer98
@silentbloodyslayer98 2 года назад
Well at the time it was considered something new so it's different.
@Doobie3010
@Doobie3010 4 года назад
Never was anything “cool” about those toasters,in any way.
@gizmoknow-how2022
@gizmoknow-how2022 4 года назад
Man the Conroe architecture was so damn optimised in terms of power consumption and computational prowess! So much so that the lower end Conroe chips were on par with the highest end Pentium D chips clocked much higher and having 4 times or 2 times as much L2 cache!
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 4 года назад
What processor did I have around that time. Oh right the AMD 3800+, one of the first if not first CONSUMER dual core processors. Sure it was only 2x 2Ghz... eh... but it was smooth like butter! Happy I jumped ship at that time to better technology. And... of course Intel had to make a new better product.
@mruczyslaw50
@mruczyslaw50 4 года назад
Athlon 64 X2 was much better performing CPUs than Pentium D, more like 4000/6000 series Core 2 Duo
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 4 года назад
I think I might still have been on the Athlon XP 2500+ at that point, until I went back to C2Q6600.
@rgrigio
@rgrigio 4 года назад
A friend of Mine had the X2 4.000+ 2,1Ghz. Really smooth indeed. I had a single core 3800+ 2,4ghz that was really slower. Nice times.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 4 года назад
@@rgrigio One of those moments that you didn't want to go back after experiencing it. Multi Core was the way to go!
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 4 года назад
if thats 200x10 multi Then you could likely run 250x10 for 2.5Ghz, run the ram on 266 divider and it would run at 333mhz its likely stock speed. nice and easy 25% oc
@MaTTsebastian7
@MaTTsebastian7 4 года назад
I've had a Pentium D 820 and my goodness it is literally a space heater 🤣runs really hot especially during summer haha The stock heatsink for these pentium D is really chonky, uses copper and quite heavy. But still it is not enough to cool it down lol And i'm crazy enough to actually finish GTA IV twice! with this system (uses 9500GT and 3GB of DDR2 RAM)
@CattleCluj
@CattleCluj 4 года назад
Ha Ha! I also played GTA IV on a Pentium D, but mine was 945 I think, with an Nvidia GT210 and 4 GB of RAM. It was pretty playable actually. Maybe it wasn't running at 30 fps, but it ran at a stable frame rate.
@phantomyoda
@phantomyoda 4 года назад
I had a prototype Pentium D on a prototype Intel board. Worked wonderful and was my main system for many years in the early to mid 2000s.
@Pepino8A
@Pepino8A 4 года назад
The Pentium D(on't)
@gooby8953
@gooby8953 4 года назад
D'oh!
@Neffers_UK
@Neffers_UK 4 года назад
Ah, the PrescHott days. If you could chill one it was incredible at certain numeric functions such as video compression (this was before the days of GPU rendering), but for everything else, it was lack lustre. If I had told my energy supplier at the time that I had one of these, my fixed rate bill would have increased dramatically I bet lol. The D805 was the prevalent variation that was best for overclocking. The low TDP (relative) allowed for a little bit of scope, but the scale-ability of the clock speed was pretty much moot. It just took more effort than it was worth. But the number crunching game, they worked and was actually worth it for that reason - in a very narrow aspect of computation.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад
Oh yeah, one of the things where it really had no competition: rendering. But for everything else AMD was cheaper, faster and more power efficient. But then the Core 2 changed everything.
@Neffers_UK
@Neffers_UK 4 года назад
Yup. Up until the C2D, the AMD naming scheme was a proper tongue in cheek jab at Intel.
@artemalexandrovich6855
@artemalexandrovich6855 4 года назад
Thats a heavy nostalgia, thanks.
@lovesmangina
@lovesmangina 4 года назад
Love the video! Keep them coming buddy
@AlexTenThousand
@AlexTenThousand 4 года назад
Glad to see you're back, I was getting worried!
@doritofan80
@doritofan80 4 года назад
The Pentium D(readful)
@SummonerArthur
@SummonerArthur 4 года назад
Yeeeeeeeeeeees You're back!
@krazycharlie
@krazycharlie 4 года назад
Hi Mr. Budget-Builds! Nice to see you coming back to action :). This videos of yours almost make me miss my old Dual-Core E5400. Almost.
@Dkentflyer
@Dkentflyer 4 года назад
Happy to see you back, great video
@Bishka100
@Bishka100 4 года назад
For maximum 'nostalgia', combine a Pentium D with Windows ME. You can have a D(isaster) of a CPU with a Operating system named after a debilitating disease :-)
@Maraxos98
@Maraxos98 4 года назад
This old cpu makes my G 4560 with ddr 3 memory feel like a rocket :D
@astroidexadam5976
@astroidexadam5976 Месяц назад
the Pentium G4560 wasn't even a bad cpu, it was in someways a budget i3 in some ways back in it's day
@Maraxos98
@Maraxos98 Месяц назад
@@astroidexadam5976 Yes it just didn´t had life span like for example 2nd gen i5 or the am4 platform
@neurobioboy
@neurobioboy 4 года назад
Excellent video, as usual. Thanks!
@goge6337
@goge6337 4 года назад
great to see you back !
@Dilo22
@Dilo22 4 года назад
I had one of these in my first personal gaming rig in 2005ish. I was too young to really notice temps nor did I really care about benchmarks. It could run Battlefield 2 well-ish, so I was happy lol Then I got an E8400 Wolfdale and was blown away by that.
@061Hitachi
@061Hitachi 2 года назад
I used Pentium III 600 Mhz until 2010 then got E8400. I don't think I will ever be that blown away except if I replaced my 1985 golf with Tesla lol.
@ReshiLuna
@ReshiLuna 4 года назад
Do I hear mystery dungeon music? Niiiiice. A man of culture I see! :3
@minecraftpc3036
@minecraftpc3036 4 года назад
Hey Budget-Builds nice to see you kept your 3 month upload cycle
@saraki4311
@saraki4311 4 года назад
I was the product manager in a company that did PSUs and CPU Coolers back then, but it did improve those two techs (as well as M/B tech I imagine) so at least we can say some good came out of it.
@tristanweide
@tristanweide 4 года назад
That PMD music hits me with the feels.
@georgearsinte5495
@georgearsinte5495 4 года назад
Me in late 2008: Will my pc run great and cool? Pentium 4: Well yes, but actualy no.
@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka
@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka 4 года назад
Well AMD Phenom stock cooler back in the day sounded like loud coffee been grinder, bought Cool master universal AMD/Intel cooler and i actually still have same cooler in my brothers pc
@HitmonleeDeluxe
@HitmonleeDeluxe 4 года назад
I recently built a WinXP machine with the ASUS P5ND2-SLI, and a 3.4ghz P4 on the LGA 775 socket. The P4 is working like a charm, but since the motherboard doesn't support the Core2Duo line of CPUs, I was considering trying out a Pentium D since that was on the list of supported CPUs. This video has convinced me to not do that haha.
@blackterminal
@blackterminal 4 года назад
Interesting. Thank you for sharing.
@wujekcientariposta
@wujekcientariposta 4 года назад
Yeah i switched from petium d to athlon fx and i was blown away with how much performance you can get with it, while almost half the clock and running pretty cool. also its funny that a 100w processor was considered power hungry. every modern top tier chip is around a 100w, and might I remind you the fx 9590?
@tobs2470
@tobs2470 4 года назад
Am I hearing Pokémon Mystery Dungeon OST? This is awesome!!
@tristanweide
@tristanweide 4 года назад
YES! It's amazing.
@dollardealtech768
@dollardealtech768 4 года назад
A great video to come back with
@aeonhelendale8777
@aeonhelendale8777 4 года назад
I quite loved my PD build. only retired it in 2013. Never saw any of these gaming problems with mine, never had heat issues. Loved it and never in my time heard terrible things until now. Still love it.
@onometre
@onometre 4 года назад
"time per TERN" smh
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 года назад
Yes
@windows7577_org
@windows7577_org 3 года назад
lol
@sharathvasudev
@sharathvasudev 4 года назад
It wasn't that bad. I have the d 805 it had significant multitasking advantage over my p4 back then. Sure it ran hot but it was no disaster. It still works as a second pc
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 2 года назад
I had a few Pentium D's myself. Certainly better performance than a Pentium 4, but the difference between a Pentium D and a Core 2 Duo is like night and day.
@dps9988
@dps9988 4 года назад
Hey, what discord is that, that was sort of featured in the background video? I seen someone mentioning something about the temps on something, and I think that it would be cool to get in on the convo!
@NikkiMcMistie
@NikkiMcMistie 4 года назад
Ahh Grim Fandango music in the bg. I see you are a man of taste.
@Decco6306
@Decco6306 2 года назад
this was in an old XP machine i had a while back. I put an SSD in it and it was surprisingly usable, it even browsed the web fine. Its all about the bloat of the OS you load on it.
@dadgamer6717
@dadgamer6717 4 года назад
Lol lowspecgamer will love those GTA V textures :)
@ChessPuzzles2
@ChessPuzzles2 4 года назад
I had the Asus P5RD1-VM with LGA 775 on my old PC what other cpu choice did I have?
@Vengir
@Vengir 4 года назад
Did you manage to install 64-bit Windows, or does it only run the 32-bit version?
@jacob42
@jacob42 4 года назад
I do need to know how well it can use notepad.
@Rainbow__cookie
@Rainbow__cookie 4 года назад
But can it run Microsoft office
@Konkretertyp
@Konkretertyp 4 года назад
@@Rainbow__cookieBut can it run minesweeper?
@jacob42
@jacob42 4 года назад
@@Konkretertyp Can it run Microsoft Bob?
@flying_Night_slasher
@flying_Night_slasher 4 года назад
Can it run Windows at all?
@scellyyt
@scellyyt 4 года назад
pentium iii 800mhz gang (also literally first)
@matthewferraro8020
@matthewferraro8020 4 года назад
e4400 probably not gang
@shidoengie9503
@shidoengie9503 4 года назад
Sup boi
@notinfocus9182
@notinfocus9182 4 года назад
E7500 gang only on Wednesdays
@Zerotwo-ks8rg
@Zerotwo-ks8rg 4 года назад
Perfect with windows 98
@scellyyt
@scellyyt 4 года назад
@@Zerotwo-ks8rg mine runs xp sp2 lol
@VladPayne
@VladPayne 4 года назад
I remember sitting through Pentium D era on a single core Northwood, that OCd very well. While my friend struggled to keep his Prescott CPU running on stock clocks. D is two Prescott cores sandwiched on one PCB if I’m not mistaking. P.S. Have a 955 D lying around somewhere in the office at work
@cyn.dragon
@cyn.dragon 4 года назад
what benchmarking software do you use for games? like, the text in the upper left corner?
@mruczyslaw50
@mruczyslaw50 4 года назад
It's MSI Afterburner with RivaTuner Statistics Server
@isaacsteen4828
@isaacsteen4828 4 года назад
PMD music in the background. I approve.
@geofrancis2001
@geofrancis2001 4 года назад
The 805d was a decent chip for the money since it overclocked to nearly 4ghz. Was still a good upgrade from my 3200+ athlon xp and lasted until my overclocked e2160
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
Yeah bur just a little bit later didnt worth a penny. This does around 522 score in cpu passmark at 95w. Even if we ignore the fact that due to ipc the performance boost wouldn't be the same at different frequencies, it would only do around 753 score, that with a way higher tdp most likelly 120w. While that a budget cpu that was compatible with most pentium D boards, a e2220 @2.4ghz has only 65w and does 1330, essentially awmost 3 times the performance at stock compared to the 805d, and a little bit more than half the tdp. It would be 2x more performance compared to the 4ghz 805d, and half the tdp. Not to mention many boards are compatible with e4xxx and e6xxx core2duos too! They are even better! So a better deal would have gotten a celeron D or p4, and just when the core2duos appeared, upgraded the processor, and maaybe overclocked the much cooler processor with a board prepares to deal with way more power hungry pentium D's, and with a way better heatsink also made to the hot processors. It would be literally overclocking the hell out of the c2d with the biggest limitatiom being your silicon luck.
@geofrancis2001
@geofrancis2001 4 года назад
@@eduardoavila646 when i got the 805 it was the cheapest dual core by miles i think the next thing up was probably double the price. at £85 with an overclock it was decent. upgrade from my athlon xp but any of the other models were just terrible for the money especially compared to the core 2.
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
@@geofrancis2001 Yes, what i said is that, if you waited a little bit there would be way more decent real dualcores around there.
@SomeDude0881
@SomeDude0881 4 года назад
I had an 805 paired with a zerotherm btf90 myself. I used it up until 2009 just fine OCD. It was quite hot but I ran tons of games really well until I upgraded to a phenom II.
@geofrancis2001
@geofrancis2001 4 года назад
​@@eduardoavila646 the 805 was just a stop gap still i could afford something from the core 2 line up, my motherboard supported core 2 so it was just a matter of time till the chips got cheap enough. when i got my 805d the cheapest core 2 duo you could buy was the e6300 at over 200 compared to the 85 i paid for the 805, i eventually upgraded when the core 2 based pentium dual cores came out under 100. i only got my chip to 3.8ghz on my ASROCK 775Twins-hdtv, im actually surprised i didn't kill the VRM on the board, it didn't have any voltage adjustment so the chip had to be pad modded to up the voltage. it supported ddr1 and ddr2 and had ATI graphics onboard. so when i was upgrading from my athlon xp i could reuse my 512mb stick ddr1 and use the xpress 200 graphics until I could afford my pcie X800XT and 2gb ddr2. another strange fact was that it used the ULI southbridge who is owned by nvidia. so it had a Intel CPU, ATI Nothbridge and Nvidia southbridge. www.asrock.com/mb/ATI/775Twins-HDTV/
@TheDigitizedSignPainter
@TheDigitizedSignPainter Год назад
Huh...good to know that I got one of the most volatile desktop CPUs out there. Just got a Compaq Presario PC a few days ago from a friend loaded with my first Pentium CPU (the Pentium D 925), so I've been hunting for information on it everywhere (especially considering my plan to put either Void, Arch, or 4MLinux on the thing). Thanks by the way, lovely video! ❤️
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 7 месяцев назад
Intel did basically the same thing a bit later with the Core 2 Quad : 2 Core 2 Duos piled one on the other. Some old ideas were still judged as fine, I guess...
@nahpets2345
@nahpets2345 4 года назад
When your PC is worse than Pentium D
@phisko2553
@phisko2553 4 года назад
I think the gt 210 with a big bottleneck is so much better than that x) (I know that this processor wasn't created for gaming(like the gt210😅))
@Konkretertyp
@Konkretertyp 4 года назад
Pentium II or old Atom?
@user-po6hn9id1t
@user-po6hn9id1t 4 года назад
@lRaziel1 i demand respect. I run Windows 7 ultimate with aero in pentium D integrated graphics.
@ChilledFlames8862
@ChilledFlames8862 4 года назад
Intel Celeron?
@DodoGTA
@DodoGTA 4 года назад
But, is it better than the Celeron D(isaster)? 😅
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 4 года назад
Unfortunately
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
Yeah, but not by alot
@moofree
@moofree 4 года назад
We had P4's at my old work until Sandy Bridge. I threw a Pentium D 940 into the motherboard and it ran really well. Honestly I think Minecraft ran slightly faster on the Pentium D than on an i5 2400, but that was probably in my head.
@H31MU7
@H31MU7 4 года назад
i'm glad i stuck out the three months :) looking forward to seeing this thing explode!
@TataAIOfficial
@TataAIOfficial 4 года назад
Lol I'm impressed by what that "Pentium" is capable of doing
@user-po6hn9id1t
@user-po6hn9id1t 4 года назад
Meanwhile I'm not. My rig has that thing, and I have enabled the aero theme in Windows 7 ultimate. Not blazing fast, but it run whatever I was asking to run.
@detmer87
@detmer87 4 года назад
A stupid CPU running really fast, that's exactly what the Pentium 4/D was. Even their mobile team put them to shame with the Pentium M (read: intelligent running slow). It was the time I went back to AMD, Athlon 64/X2 was far superior.
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
And later on intel made the Pentium M even worse creating the atom n4xx. Somehow intel doesnt learn a jack shit.
@Mdudeman13
@Mdudeman13 4 года назад
Eduardo Avila So that’s why the early Atoms were terrible. My first computer was an Acer D257 with an n450. Abysmal performance but it was better than nothing.
@joeyh5761
@joeyh5761 4 года назад
@@eduardoavila646 the Atom was completely different to the Pentium M (Celeron M performed similarly), it was essentially a Pentium III with no out of order execution and low L2 cache which crippled performance monumentally but allowed higher clock speeds for a very low TDP with low voltages. A 1.2GHz Pentium M LV ran Silent Hill 2 (2001) at 30fps locked. A 1.5GHz dual core Atom (N550) struggled to get 20.
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
@@joeyh5761 I didnt actually itended to say they are the same architeture, but rather the same market niche. You pointed out exactly whatvi wanted to. Intel had a decent mobile low power lineup, with the pentium M. And somehow they pooped these first atoms right when the core i lineup came. What i'm saying is that the atoms were sort of a replacement for the pentium M's wich usually came in smaller size laptops such as the d610, d520, etc. Later on they made some good, but soldered low power core2duos to that niche. Kinda outside that niche, but yet kinda simillar there were the core2duo P line, like the p8700, with a mere 25w did more than several 35w core2duos. The fact is that when the core i lineup came, you would be either with a pentium/core i3/i5/i7 at 35w or a shitty atom at 5-15w. It was so bad seeing a awready kinda old entry level laptop of a friend running games way better than my new atomn n455 for example. But even so, the atom was also kinda based off the pentium 3 architeture like the pentium M was.
@joeyh5761
@joeyh5761 4 года назад
@@eduardoavila646 I reckon at the time the ipad was being touted as the PC replacement which scared intel which caused them to rush out an ultra low powered line of cpus. The Core 2 Solo/duo ULV series would have been much better choices for oems but were much more expensive. And consumers clearly wanted ultra cheap laptops/tablets at the time
@abooogeek
@abooogeek 4 года назад
I tried to install a Pentium D (from an Optiplex 775 USFF, that I upgraded to a Q6600) in place of an early stock P4 LGA775 on a Dell Dimension 8400 (because the motherboard has literally almost no CPU upgrade options). Not only the motherboard will not boot, but it made the exhaust fans spin like a jet engine, ready for the Dimension to take off ground :p.
@VictorNelvanaShows
@VictorNelvanaShows Год назад
755. Optiplex
@GregGrimReaper86
@GregGrimReaper86 4 года назад
Which version of windows 10 were you running?
@WarDaddy
@WarDaddy 4 года назад
Pentium D(oodoo)
@vulcanitu2578
@vulcanitu2578 4 года назад
That time when Intel was like: "Pentium needs the D"
@tyrinonbrightblade
@tyrinonbrightblade 4 года назад
The Pentium D wasn't that bad at everything. That chip was a great replacement for the P4 Prescott for SETI crunching (the SETI project loved CPU's with large caches). I had one 930 cpu that ran 4ghz at the default voltage. I don't have the rest of the system anymore, but I kept that 930D and put it on a shelf. Some things you just can't part with (I kept my Prestonia Xeon's also (two systems) since those ran an almost 100% overclocks). lol If you want to talk about a bad chip, those Prescott's didn't overclock for beans and ran super hot even with a decent heatpipe and a 92mm tornado attached to it (yeah, my computer room sounded like half a dozen vacuum's were running 24/7). However, you were right about the Core 2 Duo being a much better chip. They would do the same work as the Pentium D at 60% of the clock speed. I didn't get to clock the C2Ds very far because of motherboard issues, but those were quickly replaced with Core 2 Quads. C2Qs were just Duo's squished together, but they worked and clocked pretty nicely. I had 4-5 q6600's and they all ran 3.6ghz with room to spare, but they did get toasty at those higher clocks (I modified the motherboards to cope with the extra power draw). The C2Q's also did very well with SETI. ...and then the i7 came out. My first one was a 920 c0/1 step cpu. It ran 3.6ghz and blew the C2Q's out of the water for SETI. However, shortly after that SETI moved to GPU's, so CPU's became a moot point. All hail the GTX 2xx series and 400 series for SETI. lol Anyway, thanks for the vid. It's nice to remember the old days once in a while.
@Umski
@Umski 4 года назад
Damn, I have one of these listed on eBay - it's been on for a few months - thanks for killing off that potential sale once and for all :D
@panzerstef
@panzerstef 4 года назад
Homer simpson after seeing the TDP :The Pentium D('oh)
@notinfocus9182
@notinfocus9182 4 года назад
I love the pentium d (said no one ever)
@rene.s.s
@rene.s.s 4 года назад
You are wrong. The D 805 went to 4ghz on Air easy for under $100 and it's sad when you see these videos that did no research and don't actually remember the hardware
@notinfocus9182
@notinfocus9182 4 года назад
René S. Shabastari how am I wrong
@rene.s.s
@rene.s.s 4 года назад
@@notinfocus9182 plenty of people loved the Pentium D 805 and even in these comments a few other they were able to OC well
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 4 года назад
@@rene.s.s Im sorry dude, but the ipc of these processors is a joke, even if it did 8ghz it would still not be remarkable in therms of performance. Just see in cpu passmark, even when these processors were new they were garbage. Really, for just a little bit more perfornce 130w??? It would be a heck lot better even to have an older server board with 2 sockets of singlecore semprons or opterons... And it was cheaper in the time, to get them on the used market. I literally sold my pentium D and got one of these, i didnt need all that cooling, and airplane sound systems to be able to have decent performance. Heck even a old atlhon 64 or a x2 would be a heck lot better. If i had to go with a p4, i would rather get a server/workstation board and overclock 2 pentium 3 @1133mhz...
@rene.s.s
@rene.s.s 4 года назад
@@eduardoavila646 I'm not sure when you used the processor but 13 years ago for under $100 the chip was great for gaming with a good dedicated GPU and it also worked well for my encoding needs. I'm sure you can cite poor synthetics or poor architecture but the fact is back then the processor worked well for a lot of people, especially on a budget, especially for young enthusiasts and lower socioeconomic communities. I had a dual 1ghz p3 system before this and and it did not work as well for my needs, gaming and video editing. So once again, the chip may have been a hack job, no questions asked, but certain models performed great for the time and were loved by many people
@adamk9652
@adamk9652 4 года назад
Great video. It's amusing I looked up the specs of the 2 older Dells I grew up with (500m and 700m) and both had a Pentium M. Guess I dodged a bullet there😂.
@cbayer5012
@cbayer5012 4 года назад
I remember I had a HP laptop with one of these in them. It could only run for about a half hour before it demanded to be shut off from the heat. That thing burned my knees so many times.
@PurpleComrad
@PurpleComrad 4 года назад
Pentium D inside - extreme smoke outside
@Konkretertyp
@Konkretertyp 4 года назад
Destruction Inside, Performance issues outside.
@aegonthedragon7303
@aegonthedragon7303 4 года назад
When intel made a PowerPC G5 look more efficient and cooler.
@lowbuckpc2940
@lowbuckpc2940 4 года назад
Welcome back!
@indrachaudhari7874
@indrachaudhari7874 4 года назад
I want to upgrade the cpu and graphics card for my old 2006 pc, it has Celeron D with 512 MB RAM, 64 MB internal Intel graphics and Win XP can you recommend the best upgrade for this spec? Which proceser and graphics from 2007, 2008 or 2009 would work without any hiccups?
@JasDCornelius
@JasDCornelius 4 года назад
It's great to see you back, regardless of content.
@eyeveedeath
@eyeveedeath 4 года назад
I had one in a dumpster parts linux build using a point-of-sale pc as the foundation(2011). I just retired it in 2020.. the power supply was a trooper. My secret was adding 2 more fans to circulate the case, mounting extra heat sinks inside, resting the case on heatsinks(adding another to the hot spot) and covering the top of the case in heat sinks. It was absurdly pointless but it muscled on to crank out all kinds of work on gimp while simultaneously heating the old apartment in winter.
@benhur2806
@benhur2806 4 года назад
Is that the load save screen music from PMD RRT/BRT?
@lopeo2324
@lopeo2324 4 года назад
0:25 loving the Pokémon mystery dungeon music.
@iLife64
@iLife64 4 года назад
This video gave me flashbacks from the Pentium D era, not much progress was made on the lower end until the launch of Core 2 Quad
@trollingtime1234
@trollingtime1234 2 года назад
Just imagine how much of a disaster it would’ve been if they made the netburst quad core The Pentium Q Basically a sandwhiched together pentium d’s
@rockpie.squashfs
@rockpie.squashfs 9 месяцев назад
The Pentium O Sandwiched together Pentium Qs
@DDRWakaLaka
@DDRWakaLaka 4 года назад
hey friend why are you not using ninite in your fresh installs
@FullyBuffered
@FullyBuffered 4 года назад
I'm a bit late to the Pentium Party here, nice video! I actually ran a Pentium D820 for a while as my main system which at that point was an upgrade from a 3GHz Prescott P4. For what I did back then (playing a Counter Strike knockoff called Crossfire in combination with a HD5450) it was actually decent. Nevertheless it was not until I later upgraded to a Core 2 Quad when I realised just how slow the 820 really was...
@AxleTrade
@AxleTrade 4 года назад
The way Intel handled and put out the Pentium D was a sign of things to come of all the refreshes they'd make in the next decade before getting caught with their pants down by Ryzen.
@buggs9950
@buggs9950 4 года назад
I've been growing tired of people telling me to get something newer than my E8600. This video makes me feel a lot better!
@630hz
@630hz 4 года назад
I'm sure I hear a 'Sea Breeze' in the background...! Nice!
@MRHOTCAKE
@MRHOTCAKE 4 года назад
I love your videos, just a thing, before core 2 duo was core duo that was 32bit only
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