I have a Yoga slim 7 Pro with a 6800HS and integrated GPU at work and I must say, Lenovo has come a long way in product quality. It's simply an excellent daily driver. Good battery life, very light, nice screen, and very nice keyboard and Lenovo has stopped with all the junkware that they used to preinstall. I also noticed that the AMD ryzen processors also seem to have aged better than the same generation Intel CPUs.
Recently picked up a Ideapad 5 (about half the price of yours) and have to agree, pretty clean install (except for McAfee) and solid metal build. Also, the keyboard is really nice probably the best I've had on a laptop.
@@RogueTravel yes soon in 2024 end or 2025 laptops with 18A node, RibbonFET transistors and power via. They will be better in performance per watt than arm chips
Brilliant, my friend. I couldn't care about these laptops at all. It's about the person talking. 1. No flashy intros 2. no loud music 3. no hyperbole 4. Immediately down to business. 5. Total business like, professional delivery, no drama - straight to facts and to the point. 99% of youtubers should pay you to learn how to present. You deserve many many more subscribers. MKBHD could learn a thing from you. Kudos!
@@shroud4269 You ever click on a random video, and watch it. No never? I found the guys delivery and presenatation very good. ANd I complaneted him you have litle going on in your life to make such a comment.I pity you.
Very interesting results. Usually AMD has an edge on power efficiency, but it is neat to see Intel catching up. Wonder why some other AMD laptops tend to get much better results - perhaps better optimization for the processor in those models?
seems like QC problem,mine asus g14 have so bad battery ,then i got another g14( get a new one is their warranty policy here) the battery life is much better,and somehow the usb speed jumped from 20 to 40gbps my friend also has the same issue with his dell alienware
AMD laptops are efficient even if it's an AMD Nvidia combo but it's the lenovos software side is making Intel better not trying on amd side. There are laptops other manufacturers who can give you better battery life on AMD model . 15 hours or more . Also Intel Quicksync lacks quality when you zoom in while Nvidia Nvenc is better.
You could generate meteor/arrow lake hopium on similar lines:: "Raptor lake can keep up with zen 4s in spite of using way older nodes and cores. Cant wait for meteor/arrow lake!!!!"
@@suntzu1409 Intel's 10nm is actually more dense then TSMC 7nm, so AMD keeping up is seriously impressive and we'll where competetion goes after 2025 when Intel figures out their new fabs and amd will have to choose b/w Samsung and TSMC , cause Samsung is way ahead in nano-sheet fabs , alsjfkndfnlasjdkflnljakdsd,afn, It's all fun we'll seeee 🤣
I purchased this laptop (Yoga Slim 7 Pro X) with a AMD Ryzen 7 6800HS, 32gb RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Max-Q (4Gb, GDDR6) and Touchscreen. Battery life isn’t great, but with the 100W Power Cord my 4-cell 70Wh battery gets charged very fast. Only real downside: no HDMI-port and no fingerprint sensor. Overall: I’m extremely happy, the laptop is very quiet and is relatively light. The screen is simply lovely and with the 32Gb RAM helps a lot when multi tasking. I chose the AMD over the Intel due to price. Plus, I never had an AMD-processor laptop before and I was just curious. Note: I actually considered the 2022 13” MacBook pro but I will probably get the 16” pro later this year and I chose the Lenovo as my ‘carry-on’ laptop.
To me it was a simple decision. AMD was cheaper, performs really well and is more efficient. Atleast it was the case with the 5500U and its competitors which I bought because of the aforementioned reasons. Seems like Intel caught up this gen and prices are screwed either way.
I agree with you, I chose AMD because it was better than the intel counterparts like the i5 or i3, the ryzen 5 5625u had the best resoults compared to its price.
@@defnotatroll 13 gen can perform same as 12 gen while using 1/3 power as we already seen in desktops and without changing node which is insane. Same 10nm node. You can also say it is way way faster in raw single core and multicore workloads. Huge L2 cache improvements also. It means 13900k is already performing better than 12900k(240watt) while using 65 to 80 watt. 13 gen laptops will perform a lot faster with the same power as 12 gen. Oems can lower power consumption for light weight laptops for little bit more performance but better battery life. This year meteolake is also coming with 7nm(Intel 4). New node after 12 and 13 gen.
@@HDRPC Very interesting. Do you have a source saying that Raptor Lake can match Alder Lake by using a third of the power? AMD did wonders too in the power efficiency department. They managed to pack 12 cores 24 threads in a package that consumes the same amount of power as 6 core CPUs. Very interesting times ahead on the CPU world.
@@HDRPC Must be said that not all workloads work well in Intel's "big little", and all cores being the same can be beneficial. But we'll have to see the actual products.
@@HDRPC though desktop chips are pushed way past the efficiency sweet spot while mobile cpus operate around it. So I would expect a more moderate gain in efficiency.
The AMD version is on sale at Costco for $1100. Surprised the Intel version has an HDMI port, you'd think it would be the other way around since AMD doesn't have thunderbolt.
Seems laptop makers always find a way to nerf their AMD lineup to push the higher priced Intel models to professionals who actually need TB or HDMI. Even a USB4 port or a 20Gbps usb 3.x gen y would’ve been a better compromise for the lack of TB.
@@Jabid21if that's the tradeoff for a lower price, that's something most of us normies would gladly take. Professionals can go pay extra and support innovation, it'll trickle down to us eventually.
@@PsychoticBacon19 oh you sweet summer child. These companies don't need money from professionals to fund innovation. All that is funding is shareholder profits. Reaganomics never really trickle down and innovation won't happen without competition. Intel was resting on its laurels for far too long until they got sucker punched by AMD and Apple.
You should have tested more on these different power levels. If Hardware unboxed testing is true, the current AMD Chips have better multi-threaded performance under 35 W and the Intel chip over 35 W. So the AMD Chip has a different Power sweet spot, thus the different configuration by the manufacturer make sense. So it would be really nice to see battery life, Cinebench and maybe one representative game with the different power modes.
Would love to echo this sentiment! Seeing battery life under constant loads at different power levels and reaulting performance is very insightful for full system performance/efficiency to compare laptops with.
@@TRX25EX "Hardware Unboxed biggest AMD Fanboys ever" Hardware Unboxed latest video: "AMD greedy and incompetent" You're the one who seems to be an Intel Fanboy. Classic
@@sharanoth Having a cigarette packet read 'smoking can cause cancer' does not mean that cigarette manufacturers do not promote smoking. HUB is biased towards AMD in what they say in their opinions. Things like 4 core@1GHz is likely to perform better than 1 core@4GHz(misleadingly promoting AMD's use of more cores at that time). More recently their Q&A claiming that more L3 cache is better(misleadingly promoting the AMD hype of their upcoming 7K X3D launch). Let's see if they have anything to say about the staggered launch of the 7800X3D. It's a shame because HUB does some really good testing across single segments.
@MyAqaa I said that HUB are biased in favour of AMD, it's not the same thing as calling them a fanboy. Maybe you could explain why they insist on claiming that 4x1GHz performs better than a single 4 GHz processor?(at the time favouring AMD multicore) Or why they don't make it clear that more L3 cache only really benefits certain gamers? (So many gamers play GPU bound games where upgrading to X3D offers poor value for money versus putting the money towards a better GPU.)
What about comparing budget laptops? Does the CPU really make much difference in models that are under $500? I'm not looking for a video editing or gaming rig, just something for daily tasks.
Anything will work for daily basis work, even chrome books lol. Just any average Ryzen or Intel Core, at least 8gb of ram (get 16 if you multitask) with a decent SSD is enough, dont need to worry much about it. Just dont get a Pentium or stuff like that lol
I bought my wife a Intel ThinkPad T14s and me the Ryzen edition, fan volume is terrible on the intel version, but fully feature customizable option selection and software bug stability support. The AMD side has lot more issue with some random software bug affect the laptop hardware, but is less fan noise and consumption 50 watt max, so the 65 watt charger has enough juice for it but not enough with the Intel CPU🤦♂.
I've a ryzen thinkpad and don't have any software issues. I find it hard to believe Lenovo would ship a laptop which consumes more power than what their brick provides. Sounds sus
@@Titere05 You have a couple of year old AMD ThinkPad, anything AMD is always half backed at first before fix with software update, smaller company small price to pay 😔, otherwise no company need to push update fix 🙄. Made in China 🇨🇳 Lenovo is not IBM 🇺🇸, they are allow to ship the minumum requirement charger for anything, you can max out the performance for ~5% more if you plug a 85 watt charger with Intel CPU to catch the the peak performance during high workload but the heat ♨️ came out the keyboard and the noise level you will feel it yourself.
If you don't need TB... get the older AMD version (5000 H series) they are way more affordable and still a nice device to own and use! My ASUS Vivobook was $900 (USD) with the 5800H, 16GB, 3050 and OLED... Have nothing to complain about (was looking at the Lenovo Slim 7 Pro - non X but was more expensive and found that a lot of users had keyboard issues).
Wish you'd done the benchmarks in Intelligent Mode (and Extreme Mode maybe only as a bonus). That's the target use case for these devices. Running them in extreme performance mode has too many drawbacks and isn't enabled out of the box anyway.
My burning question is how these laptops compare simply watching RU-vid videos. I had a Lenovo AMD 4750U-based laptop. The problem was the inferior power management. I played around with the Windows 10 power slider and power management modes to no avail. I could get the AMD laptop to either be quiet, but permanently limited to about 1.7GHz (even single core), or the fans would spool up and it would be loud when decoding RU-vid videos, drowning out the sound. The power management was bad. You had to switch modes every time you wanted to watch RU-vid. My subsequent Lenovo Intel Tiger Lake laptop is much better. The Windows 10 power management slider essentially controls the maximum fan level. In "Better Battery" mode it is consistently quiet, yet spools up to max turbo frequency on single cores no problem. The Intel laptop is day to day useable, while the AMD was annoying. I'd really love to know how the two laptops compare in a RU-vid test for loudness, especially with RU-vid videos that use demanding codecs. Has AMD improved with the 6000 series at all? I came away with the impression that the 4000 series was unrefined. For laptops that spend much of their time in light use, it's better if Cinebench numbers are balanced with actual useability.
Somehow agreed with you on the bad power management optimisation on Lenovo Laptop. I had the Yoga 6 running AMD 5700U, on average it uses about 12-15W of power on battery, vs 1st Gen Asus G14 Ryzen 7 4800HS which runs on average of 9-12W on battery, by which the G14 runs much cooler on plug-in or battery, and runs much smoother compare to the 5700U. The only good thing on the Yoga 6 vs the G14 is the form factor, weight and a relatively small USB C 45W charger instead of the bigger and heavier power brick
AMD had better power management with 5000 series and even better power management with 6000 series. The 6000 series is actually insane in its ability to power manage.
For the performance metrics, would have been nicer to see the power scaling as opposed to whatever Lenovo chooses for the power modes. Same for the battery life test. Would be nicer to (for example) play a game frame-capped to 30fps, and see which system did best for battery.
Absolutely - you need to compare them doing the same work to see which is "better". if the performance delivered is not the same then why the hell would anybody expect the same powerdraw?
The price and battery life are only parts about this comparison that was surprising. I'm not at all surprised that the Alder Lake platform had better single threaded performance, and therefore roughly 5% higher gaming performance at 1080p given the higher core clock boosting and faster memory, nor am I surprised at the Intel machine outpacing this AMD in cinebench given the 25% additional hardware threads on the Intel side. Even in closer CPU performing scenarios, given the same GPU, Intel tends to squeeze a little more out of Nvidia GPU's. The battery life makes no sense given what we've seen with other Ryzen 6000 HS and Alder lake laptops, I'm calling a poorly calibrated balanced power profile on the AMD side. I have a 6900HS in my G14 and it somehow does better in most of the benchmarks (gaming isn't fair comparison as I have a 6800), but I think Lenovo has some additional tuning to do here for power efficiency. Everything else is as expected, except for the price, that AMD laptop should be $150 cheaper with the same size SSD and amount of RAM. Either AMD is overplaying their hand, or Lenovo is trying to use the AMD system and lack of public awareness to capture additional margin per unit sold.
amd tuned to be power efficient and less heat while intel is on performance while causing too much heat the problem is laptop nowadays are thinner and thinner which makes it difficult for heat dissipation.
I have an AMD QL-64 processor, 2.1 Ghz, 1800 mhz FSB. It had a speed limit problem, Cod 4 was running at very slow speed with 512 mb Ati. After taking out the 2 choppers with the rockets (located at the bus), the speed increased dramatically. I checked on Cpu -z, the FSB dropped to 1700 mhz, causing the cpu speed increase.
Those thin and light laptops are really a game changer. I finally got one last year (Asus Zenbook under $1000.00) and the battery life is really great for my needs for a whole workday. I just leave my charging brick at home and travel light. It's really hard to go back to a heavier laptops that I always had.
@@Big_catlaflare Probably Zenbook S14 with its big 70+Wh battery. But you should certainly only buy a laptop with 16GB of RAM. What do you do on the laptop? You should primarily get laptops with Ryzen 6000 series APUs.
@@Big_catlaflare It's "UM3402" Mine had a Ryzen 7 5825. I think the newer 2023 version have up to date cpus 7000 series. The Intel version I think is UX3402. The screen is AMOLED.
Right now I have a Zenbook 14 with a Ryzen 5500u mx450 gpu with 8gb of ram, i don’t really mind if it’s intel or amd, just need more ram and good port selection
A lot of power in a thin chassis can also bring a lot of heat. This is why a lot of laptop owners (myself included) are big into undervolting because thermal throttling is such a problem. The more power, the more heat and bad performance. Even the best cooling solution on a laptop fails compared to a desktop. It is frustrating because you really can't take advantage of that extra power in gaming or production in a laptop due to heat. Processors are really good today, but unless you can dissipate that heat, it means nothing. It is interesting what they are able to put into laptops today, but until the thermal issue is solved, it is going to be underwhelming. Also to note. While undervolting can keep temps down, you lose performance as the tradeoff. And it seems like the Intel chips are set to thermal throttle long before you get to 95 C; actually it starts sucking at 80 C. I just can't recommend any of these gaming laptops. They just don't perform very good and if you tweak them, you will lose production ability to game and vice versa. It is all a tradeoff.
@@rattpisss once look at zephyrus series.. they have high performance and good looking budget laptops and id prefer Intel version in this generation and amd in last
I see the 6900HS version as an extremely capable business laptop with great battery life for travel without having to look for an outlet all the time. Enough performance for all your task for such a laptop.
For me, the huge reason for the intel is the HDMI port and the two Thunderbolt ports. Interesting that you kind of glossed over that, and didn't include it in your summery of which one you would buy.
I have a 34" 1800R Curved USB Hub Monitor so the Thunderbolt ports were a deal sealer for me. Avoid gaming laptops and get the productivity laptops. With Dell, Lattitude line up is the move!!!
Pretty much confounded as to why the Legion 7 and Legion 7i weren't compared in a similar video. They both are identical in everything except the part where Legion 7 is technically an all-AMD system, so those benchmarks would have been cool to see as well.
I've been wondering the same thing. If I ran a tech channel I'd be all over testing the same laptops with different hardware to make sure my viewers could get the best laptop that fits their needs.
@@albundy06 because they're testing maximum performance. You wouldn't run heavy max performance workloads on the battery unless you want it to die in 1 hour
@@defnotatroll Because they're clueless. Performance on battery matters. Performance plugged in with fans sounding like jet engines doesn't matter. This in a nutshell is why basically ALL windows laptops suck. Unplug them and even ignoring their garbage battery life the performance tanks. Meanwhile the apple machines get the same performance on or off the charger. Don't die in a hr no matter what you do. Just look at your argument. Performance on a laptop that's entire design/ market segment is about being portable/ thin and light isn't important,. If you put it under load it will die in a HR! What a brilliant ( sarcasm) device and approach to this market segment! No wonder MacBook airs were and are so popular. Because Windows / Intel and AMD aren't capable of making a good product for this market.
Unable seeing into Lenovos cards I think they choose their components and software adjustments to make them perform similar: While the Intel CPU is of a newer generation, its an i7 „only“ and not the max spec version i9-12900H. The power draw would be insane, also the performance gap. So they dont want to give their suppliers and customers not too much of a gap on the Notebook Brand experience.
I think you're minimizing the thunderbolt aspect in terms of using a thin and light laptop. With a 3050 you can run a lot of professional software (for example engineering software) and having the option of a one port docking possibility is unrivaled.
Exactly. This depends on the user, though. A laptop without TB is completely useless to me. Users that never dock probably don’t care. It’s still an important consideration and should have been mentioned in conclusion.
crazy to see the multicore difference between laptops with better cooling solutions for instance, my legion 5i pro can achieve 19000 comfortably on multicore cb23 consistently on the 12700h. The 12700h was a huge leap for intel for sure. I imagine the 13700 will be far ahead of AMD equivalent this year.
you do realise its an i7 against something that should be against the i9 this performance for the intel laptop is amazing understanding that it is against something that should be better
I recently bought an asus s14 with an h series processor with oled screen, it runs cs go very smoothly with no lagg whatsoever. I don't know if it's available in america as i bought It in india. I am very happy with it.
I have a Zenbook 14 q407iq Ryzen 5 4500U, Nvidia MX350, 8GB RAM. I can: edit raw photos in Lightroom, edit FHD video in Premiere with ease and possibly 4K if i lower playback resolution and I can also game at moderate settings. All of that in a laptop that weighs 1.15 Kg and has a colour accurate display. Oh and I bought the thing for 700 euros (800 really cause i upgraded to a 1TB Nvme SSD)
Pick the Ryzen 7 6800HS models because all thin&light Ryzen 7 laptops are like Ryzen 9 laptops with 98% of the performance at 10% lower price, which is significant. And ditch Intel unless you would use workloads that need all 20 threads
"Both laptops are identical, except for the CPU" "This one has double the RAM" Proceeds to run a lot of RAM dependent benchmarks. And that's BEFORE you even account for Windows app caching in RAM, which would use the SSD less and thus lower power consumption and increase battery life. How is this a serious comparison?
Why one in his good mind would pay $1700 USD for a laptop with a entry level GPU?! Not even if some of them come with the top notch CPUs, which is not the case of any...one will be paying for the brand not for what one should get in terms of performance...
They probably figured out a BIOS that will seamlessly disable P-Cores when you're unplugged and there's no load so it doesn't even draw a heck of a lot of standby power for those cores. On Eco mode or whatever it's called chances are you're only running E-Cores, just that 1) this is still a newer architecture and 2) you still have eight of them, so it doesn't end up feeling like using a Netbook with a larger screen. I think Dell figured this out first last year and I was holding out for the G15 and M15 hoping that if I ever have to take it on the go (and without the time to get it off battery life extender mode and fully charge the thing before I shove it into my backpack) I wouldn't worry too much about running out of juice while having more cache for gaming. Thanks to recent price drops though I just went with AMD+NVidia.
Honestly, that's what SHOULD have been done with E-cores. The P-cores should be disabled on battery life unless tougher tasks are called upon. I mean, could the lack of that be why AMD did better in terms of battery life in 2022?
I have one of these lenovos and the p cores do not get disabled on battery. From my experience it's actually the opposite. I checked task manager once and all the e cores were at 0% usage whilst the p cores had constant 5% or less usage
@@cameronbosch1213 When Intel announced this back in early 2021 I totally thought that was how it would work, ie it'd only load up the big cores when you launch anything and run something intensive enough. At best Windows would run on one pCore but the scheduler is there to offload a lot of Windows tasks to the eCores. Then the 12th gen laptops happened and batt life still kind of sucked until that one Dell ultrabook came out. Can't even remembee which one it was and what channel did the review but they specifically said there that the pCores basically don't just draw less power when loaded, they're practically inactive it's like sleep mode. The way I understood the explanation it was like having a start-stop hybrid.
@@defnotatroll So in car terms these are basically like having a hybrid that runs the gas engine on extreme eco mode, and then runs the electric engines to add power when on Hoghway or Sport Mode (or when the rear tires are slipping at lower traction scenarios). Basically a good 4cyl hybrid like the Rav4 Prime than putting an Audi 4cyl on the front axle of a Tesla so you don't get stuck in an area without a charging station.
I have the ryzen 7 6800hs 32gb ram 1tb storage version, in aus there is no 6900hs, and the i7 is like $400 more than the amd one, and i have had no cpu bottle necks AND the 3050 draws around 35-45w from what i've seen depending on the game and whether it is cpu intensive or not. My laptop normally hits around 75 degrees while gaming.
And standard battery life playing videos ? My bro bought an MSI i7 and the battery life is only an hour and 15 minutes playing video. It’s just outright ridiculous as I told him not chase for some FPS that you can’t feel but have to deal with garbage battery life.
Nice comparison. In that specific case I'd choose the Intel one, seems pretty close in all aspects but it gains a lot on the IO department: full HDMI and 2 thunderbolt 40gbps. Otherwise, I'd choose AMD 'cause personal preference, nothing more :P
It's weird the AMD version is missing both USB4 and hdmi ports considering the dedicated graphics on both. Otherwise I agree, the AMD version benefit was the iGPU which is far less relevant with a 3050. Can't wait for ryzen 7x40 chips with RDNA3
@@bhaveshsonar7558 the problem is while it can have USB4 it is missing on these models. It was a common trend as AMD is not as forceful as intel in implementing it. If you make an Intel laptop and don't include thunderbolt, intel will throttle you.
@@ABaumstumpf but with the 12th and 13th gen core i CPUs you don't keep as much performance at very low power consumptions as with the 5th and especially 6th gen Ryzens.
@@badass6300 You sure about that? As far as i am aware of there are only very few reviews that look at power-scaling at all other than max powerconsumption when overclocking. In general those i had seen have always shown the same thing: Zen4 has "far better scaling" - until they check the actual powerdraw and not the configured value. And i9 13900K set to 65W Limit has a lower peak-powerdraw then an Ryzen 9 7950X at the same 65W limit has average powerdraw. Recently i also saw one attempt at comparing them but there the reviewer used the motherboard default OC-settings for his powerscaling test making the numbers basically irrelevant.
@@ABaumstumpf I'm talking about laptop chips, but when it comes to desktop check the non-X ryzen 7000 CPUs, the X versions are absolutely dumb and consume too much power and don't listen when you limit their power. In general they are very inefficient.
Great comparison. I am frustrated by how companies still use Thunderbolt 4 and only include it on their intel machines when they could probably just as easily implement USB 4 and include the massive benefits of those ports on all the SKUs.
I have not watched the video yet.. but last year I got the intel version of this exact laptop.. the only reason why was because in canada they were selling the amd model with only 16gb of ram and the 4800hs, where as the intel 12700h had 32gb of ram.. but i hope i didn't get screwed with my choice...
As a Mac user I would not consider either as having "good battery life" and simply do not understand how PC users put up with the heat and noise. Long battery life, and dead quiet, cool operation is so liberating.
8 core AMD vs 20 core Intel CPu with almost identical results? Id go with AMD, better thermals and battery life.. Cant imagine if AMD will throw a 20 core CPU,, intel would be no match at all
Today i made my choice and picked the Intel version of the same model. Not easy but ur video was helpful indeed because i was choosing between the same two devices! ✌️😉
Honestly , it wouldn't hurt to edit in what sort of processors the other laptops are using for the betterment of your viewer's understanding and digesting of data , instead of just mentioning AMD or Intel
We happen to have identical Intel AMD tower builds in our studio and by far the AMD system kills the Intel desktop. When it comes to ProTools, Digital Performer 11, and FL Studio the AMD system is the room Everyone uses. You can ask what I used for this and that but in a "PC" build for our studio the go to is AMD.
@@msp5138 my Slim 7 ProX decreased the speaker performance when I switched to battery saving mode. It sounded so terrible that I never used that mode. Maybe it was an issue with my unit, don't know.
4gb of vram in this kind of laptop is laughable nowadays. These are usually “creator” laptops and the 4gb card is just anemic. Even at this price. Especially when the MacBook pros exist. And the 3050 isn’t strong enough to game at that high of a frame rate with that kind of screen. As someone who builds PCs I find myself more and more pushed towards Apple for a thin and light.
@@defnotatroll In the US, the M2 MB Pro 14 is $200-300 more than these at current list prices. The M1 MB Pro 14, if found discounted match the discounted price of these Lenovos. So the MacBook 14s are very comparable.
You should test compatibility such as USB, wifi connection, HDMI switch.... AMD is more power efficient than Intel now, but the user experience is terrible. Intel has a lot experience on trouble shooting. AMD may have some weird problem sometimes.
So it's not just me. My AMD laptop's CPU is running strong after 3 years but it fails to detect my 2nd touchscreen monitor's touch input, and takes 5 minutes to initialise the audio system.
Would choose intel anyday due to innovative technology adaption. Amd is just doing buissness at discounted price. You will see some amd laptops at discounted price but never seen an untel laptop at discount
the AMD chip performans better on battery, 15 Watts and you have 50% of your performance, whilst the Intel chip requires you around 35 Watts for the same
I'd get an LG Gram 17" at about 3lb (wish they offered a choice of keyboard layout though). I'm going to hold off though as I'm hoping next year they'll have an 18" 3lb oled model.
@@PandaMoniumHUN I saw it - he doesn't like the flexibility of it - which I understand but unless you are using your dell to protect you from IED's in fallujah. 95% of my customers choose lighter over bulletproof. It is just a matter of preference. Most of my customers are not 20 year old males so hauling when ass from A to H in O'hare every extra pound of luggage matters particularly when not rolling your luggage. They bring it back and forth to work each day so they opt for lighter. I'm not saying the others are bad - this is why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream and my dad would say. I give my clients a choice of brands as I use the same image with a few driver tweaks and everybody at the different company chooses LG, except one company that gets Dell because they are less expensive.
I'm happy with my ideapad 5 pro 14. 7735HS qnd iGPU lasts a whole day, I charge once a day. I have experienced lags but thats me tinkering with skins 😅 and it gets hot when I connect to external monitor and charge (100W propriety charger) at the same time. Still trying to figure out how to manage it. Overall, I love my Lenovo.
If you look at performance intel wins over AMD but at low power efficiency AMD just wins over intel. If we look at intgrated graphics intel wins by 3 - 4% over AMD but some games intel drivers behave weird and it's an unpleasant experience. But AMD integrated graphics are very good at gaming too but not as good as intel iris xe The laptop I have right now is an HP Elitebook with an i3 1215u with terrible battery life
I would have liked to include Apple silicon in this comparison. I'm wanting to switch to Apple and I don't know if it's worth it. Now I have a Lenovo Legion 5 AMD/7 5800H + RTX 350ti and I don't know how performs my system compared to M2/M2 Pro. From everything I've seen so far they seem to be equivalent. But how will it be using graphic programs?
I think it depends on where you live. Are you from the states? In my country a 16 inch MBP M2 starts at like 3500$. That's starting price. U want more RAM and storage? 4-5k easy. It's just too much for me. Even though i love the design and it will probably last 5 years and then i can still sell it for a good price but it's too much.
usually mobile intel and amd cpus will rock the apples cpu like nothing else but apple cpu is also really low powered but then again whats the point in having a laptop that cant hit its full or even its medium potential
@@kieranlee9610 bc almost nobody uses full power for more than a brief moment of the day. And even less people need fulll power away from a desk or power outlet. Intel will probably change their chips toward more efficient and less power drawn bc of this whole believe tho. But the real nerds know that its BS
@@maxjames00077 defeating the point its a 45w gaming mobile cpu they both are hence the H the low powered ones are U apples cpu is ARM based it would lose to everything here except battery life what use is it when you need something powerful to crunch processes
@@maxjames00077 and no you'd hit full power quite alot alot more than you think for one starting up the machine opening any resource intensive app you dont turn on full power it does it automatically when it needs to
Thumb down for not mentioning the memory on these models and whether it's single or dual stick and whether it's upgradable. Dual channel memory is important for performance and also for integrated GPUs.
I feel like the AMD version should have a lot more battery run time on a 70 WHr battery, my 4700U Dell laptop (TDP raised to 35W) easily runs for 7 hours on a 40Whr battery on idle. Even if the 6900HS is technically a higher power model, on idle it shouldn't use any more energy than mine does - in fact, it should use significantly less. AMD laptops from other companies tend to have 11+ hour run times on 70+ WHr batteries on average, especially those with the U and HS skus, and some even exceed 13 hours like the Asus G14. I've noticed that Lenovo has been consistently missing the mark with the battery run times with these AMD laptops, even their Legion series with 80+ WHr batteries don't run anywhere near as long as other AMD gaming laptops.
yes, i think it is a Windows issue, because I use Linux, and when I bought my AMD Lenovo Slim 7 it always showed my 16 hours or 12 hours of battery life, and it kept running even if i was processing a lot of stuff around 6 - 8 hours, means using it fully for 6 - 8 hours on full performance mode :D i have never seen Intel being around 4 hours performance
@@alevilikvealeviler wasn't talking about Windows either. I use windows too, and other AMD laptops with Windows can easily run for longer on smaller batteries. This is specifically a Lenovo issue, all their AMD laptops have excessive battery drain.
I'd choose the Intel since it has thunderbolt 4 port good for future external gpu expansion. Intel is just $5 cheaper too; but 1 concern the memory on the AMD is faster 6200 and the INtel is 5400; and and it is a newer Ryzen 9 6000series cpu. I wish my ASUS A15 TUF had a thunderbolt but unlikely since only intel laptop would have them.
So if i have a laptop right now with intel 12700, i can buy an external gpu like 2 years from now and use it for gaming without having to buy a new laptop? How much would a gpu like that cost do you know?
@@maxjames00077 like 300 dollars for the enclosure itself, I got a intel laptop with Thunderbolt 3 so i can future proof it a bit thanks to the Thunderbolt and egpu support but it's way to expensive for my budget rn
@@maxjames00077 I'd search for testing on that. I know Thunderbolt 3 created a bottleneck that any external gpu powerful enough to be worth buying for a performance boost was significantly slowed by limited bandwidth. Don't know the specs on Thunderbolt 4 -- it's faster of course but not sure if it wouldn't be the same story in 2 years. That's why companies like Asus and Dell created custom ports for external gpu's. Both of those are pretty pricey though. Future proofing laptops seems to always be a questionable value proposition but I'm still thinking about picking up an Asus Flow x13 myself.
I bought an AMD laptop, but the drivers keep causing me issues in the long run. Next purchase isn't going to be AMD, unfortunately. It's a shame AMD laptops don't have anything close to Thunderbolt 4. Stability + TB4, sorry AMD. Better luck next time
@@israellewis5484 Oh nice, could you suggest laptops that do have USB4 and follow the "highest feature set" (USB4 has multiple "levels" of features that manufacturers can choose to implement, making it that much harder to get a TB$ equivalent) that basically allows me to replace TB4? True, not AMD's fault, but I really shouldn't care. I pay for device, and expect the manufacturer to fix it. I just wish they got their brains together and fixed things. My G15 keeps crashing in an AMD driver lol
not entirely agree with that bad driver thing of AMD laptop but some what both my AMD laptops (lenovo Yoga 6 and Asus G14) suffer the same issue with the power management chip/driver within. Both the laptop will goes into BSOD after numerous time of standby wakeup (not the modern standby), but this usually happened only after the laptop been running for 15-30 days. And btw, the G14 get worst in Windows 11, so I guess it is the driver issue.
Always the tradeoff between thin and performance. Think I'd rather got with a slightly thicker design and pay less or just get more perf for the money with a better GPU. Been sub $1000CAD laptops with 3050's lately.
Why would you put thread count over core count in your spec intro? The Ryzen is 8 Core (Threads: 16) The i7 is 14Core (Threads: 20) Thats suppose to be a close comparison?
The graph of Battery Test (Laptop model vs "Time to complete" graph) is misleading, time to complete is usually referred as the time needed for a computer to finish a task or benchmark, using it in this context made me think of that. It should be something like battery life in Hours or Time from 100% to 0% battery. 10:46 in mins means 10 mins 46 secs, not 10 hours 46 mins, so correct that please, simple but unnecessary mistake........
which is better ASUS Vivobook 16X AMD Ryzen (8GB, 1TB) 16-Inch Laptop X1603QA-MB283W OR Asus VivoBook 16 Intel Core i5 7730U 13th Gen 16-inch FHD Laptop (16GB, 512GB) X1605YA-MB098W?
So i have 2 laptops, same price, same everything except CPU and RAM: Intel Core i7 13700h + 16gb ram VS AMD Ryzen 7 7840hs + 32gb ram, never used and, heard some bad rumors ( which i hope are not true ) and i cant decide.
For Business machine, I will always go with Intel processor because the AMD version will usually got nerfed down by the manufacturer with cheaper stock options, e.g. Intel vs Realtek WIFI card, backlit vs non-backlit keyboard, 1 vs 3 years warranty, etc, by which after you add back all those better options, AMD version would cost more than Intel version, always.
well for laptop gaming there are a few Better solutions than buying a laptop with a dedicated Graphic card. 1. E-GPU get any GPU YOU want. 2. GeForce Now lets your stream your games to your laptop from Nvidias Servers unillizing an RTX 4080. for $23 a months(also you need good internet connection). way cheaper then actually buying gaming Laptop or a E-GPU Enclosure and the graphic card.
I actually switched to a 13.3" laptop and opt for GeForce Now after my Asus G14 went RMA due to the fried GPU VRM. I still love the G14 for its processing power but when comes to travel light, those 13.3" with non-dedicated GPU wins
"What I have in front of me are two identical laptops, with the only difference being the price." *goes on to describe all the differences between the two laptops, and ends by saying they're the same price*
Interesting, I have had a ton of issues with AMD Ryzen 7 6800U with windows 11 to the point that my laptop is not usable to the work that I do. so I am having to buy a new one. I am not sure if I should risk and get another AMD Ryzen 7 7735U or a Intel Core i7-1360P Processor same laptop but 500 dollars difference in price range.
@@MeteCanKarahasan it is in the AMD website.. AMD windows issues.. the have a whole page of it.. the issue I was having is way to technical for me to explain but basically you could not use the laptop in certain programs.. the lag between the user input and the results were really bad.. all I can related to was similar to low ram or hardware compatibility.. but I am sure it is something more complicated than that
BRAVO! Owner of the intel version of this laptop that I got on major sale for $1,212 😄 But if its really 1 of the best all around laptops on the market, then why was it left out recently of your best laptops video?!?!
