Intelligence has no depression | Krishnamurti

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Extract from the first conversation with Pupul Jayakar at Brockwood Park, 1983. Watch the full video at • J. Krishnamurti - Broc...
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@deepthikiran8555 3 месяца назад

Intellectual discussion just going above my head another level of conversation

@Neha-xs3xk 4 месяца назад

I think one of the mistakes many of us make when we first encounter these teachings, is to assume that when JK says 'thought is limited' we immediately consider thought as inferior, or wrong, or worldly and misguided - you know put a whole negative weight to it and then try to be free of thought. The teaching however points to a completely non value judgement... simply to see that the structure of thought always comes with boundaries, every grand or tiny idea is built by taking some ideas and rejecting others... this is also what makes thought creative in the world... but still somehow lacking, always seeking and trying to be complete.. there is thus a sort of hunger in thought, the ever expanding eye... and once you see that... seekingness emanating from you, you suddenly see the whole game and illusion of thought. And you see the sorrow and exhaustion of it... and you also see the fullness of all things, that thought just manages to temporarily catch. Then, you still think - to function well in the world... but you are no more caught in the game of it so easily... and then a silence begins to grow which is wiser than most ordinary thought.

@orinyoutubes 4 месяца назад

An excellent observation, with clear step-by-step detail of what happens. Thanks for this, something we can take on board and begin to apply ourselves.

@StrikeOutl 4 месяца назад

beautiful comment and observation that hits on Truth. - especially the part explaining the thought's desperate (never-finding) search for fullness while at the same time inevitably limiting itself (because thoughts function that way, as soon as we try to formulate something it's automatically limiting itself, not just in language but also in concept) while in theory thoughts are always in endless search and could go on and on.. but then in essence Thought IS inferior to Experience (without thought), because only Experience itself can reach that Fullness / Full Truth (and to be more precise - most likely fully subconscious experience) ?

@leighcecil3322 4 месяца назад

The constant rise and fall of the self... with observation of no action is a delight .. nature at play...! 😲

@D.K.TyagiYT 4 месяца назад

Last two sentences sum up everything 🙏

@Absolutely-nothing80 4 месяца назад

Love you K sir. I am short of words to express my gratitude.🙏

@cheri238 4 месяца назад

Beautiful conversation between Krishnamurti and Pupul Jayakar. 🙏❤️🌎🕊🌿🎵🎶🎵

@ishapattanashettar9504 4 месяца назад

Thank you Krishnaji 🙏🙏❤️

@Mansoor-ou5bi 4 месяца назад

Thank you

@Factster-18 Месяц назад

Talk with Pupul Jaykar

@mirailieva8849 4 месяца назад

Depression is part of the body’s guidance system to alert you that changes are needed because natural needs are not being met.

@mirailieva8849 4 месяца назад

You don’t stifle depression, you let it guide you. Sometimes it might be impossible to completely remove depression, if the body is too damaged.

@lakshay7901 3 месяца назад

@@mirailieva8849 Can you explain what you meant by “when your Body is too damaged” in relation to depression one is suffering from.

@krishnashetty01 4 месяца назад

As per my experience Yoga,Pranayama helps me to free of 'me' , 'self'. Yes it keeps coming back again and again with various thoughts and memories day to day life, but I am progressing

@caravi111 4 месяца назад

As per whenever u say i am progreeeing it involves time and that time will have different scenes as the life tremendous change every moment and u cannot progress at all as u will be caught in another during that time of progressing..

@someoneelse5682 4 месяца назад

In the practice of knowledge everyday something is added, in the practice of the Tao everyday something is dropped. Whether you go up the ladder or down it, your position is shaky.

@AjayKumar-pn5yy 4 месяца назад

Progress is not the way. You will get it instant. Not through yoga nor with practice. Just immediate action.

@img008 4 месяца назад

😂 progress is an illusion, time is illusion. Only ending time makes one free from self

@lungarotta 4 месяца назад

If "you" are progressing that means the self is still there, you see the point? The self wants to get rid of the self through a tecnique... it's absurd! (and ridicule too), no tecnique can eliminate the self, you can feel less assertive, more relaxed, but the self, the ego will inevitably pop up again at the first opportunity...

@subrahmanyam80 4 месяца назад

🙏🙏🙏 Most burning question...its like a perfume.. its there...🙏. Full video please....

@michaelodriscoll 4 месяца назад

It's everywhere, Silence, revels it's Essence. Namaste 🙏

@robertopuccianti8498 4 месяца назад

🙏❤🌻

@gentiantafa4619 4 месяца назад

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@user-rd2xb8dh9w 3 месяца назад

It's the data, analysis and perception that changes the direction of a person's mental state .Can go deep into it but I think it's enough info I guess.

@Inquiring_Together 4 месяца назад

Yes, depression and its relation to inattentiveness is a difficult connection for most to make. Its not until the danger of the onset of depression on the body settles in does one wonder why.

@karanagrawal8499 4 месяца назад

He is using word depression in other sense here, Depression here mean fluctuation.Denting kind of.

@Vinividivici1111 4 месяца назад

any conflict leads to friction finally to depression…. confilct starts when u falsely identify with body and mind…..when u are awareness-consciousness there is no conflict…whenu align yourself with ´what is‘….all conflict ceases

@sriramkudarla75 4 месяца назад

Naatu naatu Every indian is my Role .ram charan telling to 👑

@Sahilsharma-ce4ow 4 месяца назад

❤

@vaniram81 4 месяца назад

Wow

@nothing578 4 месяца назад

The rise and falls are perceptions/interpretations from a conditioned brain who's senses have been hijacked, activating fight or flight to give a familiar response, thus making the action predictable. Realizing that the body is limited, yet a useful tool that assists in bringing about order is a change in itself. From this 'order' where does the action begin? Can the right action start from the 'limited'?

@umeshbhupathi431 4 месяца назад

Intelligence have various applications like technology medical modern intelligence had become destructive purpose which should integrate intelligence with good intellect

@ginevrajdeluca6589 4 месяца назад

Intelligence is not intellect. Intellect is but a subset of intelligence

@Loop87til 4 месяца назад

Underrated comment!

@TheTranscending 4 месяца назад

Can you guys please let us know who is the other person in the discussion

@kft 4 месяца назад

Pupul Jayakar

@Anton-fw2wb 4 месяца назад

Illusion is powerful, otherwise is not illusion. Our brain is conditioned since our birth, our childhood. So we suffer because we are forced to stay in a pattern, in a limited space, in a track, in a groove. Consciousness is to be aware of our state of illusion, ignorance. It is enough. The mojority is unconscious. They are sure to know, to be awake, to be aware, but they don't.

@tejusrishti7680 4 месяца назад

Who is this woman ? she is almost equal to the genius mind of JK sir ..xan anyone pls mention her name ..

@gundga 3 месяца назад

She’s PUPUL JAYAKAR

@TheExistenceClass0 4 месяца назад

He Is Enlightened By The Heart He Knows only Of The Heart And people think he's enlightened one 😂 He Don't Dance How Can He Be a Enlightened One then ?

@exwade8777 4 месяца назад

Been a huge fan of Krisjnamurtis work for some time now, but it seems to me he never did get rid of his ego in a major way, not once in this talk does he even let the lady finish a sentance, the idea, and immediately he jumps right back into what he always repeats again and again, his ideas are just too crystalyzed and stubborn, as if he can just dismiss everyone's opinion on any matter, without giving it any real thought.

@smilekeshwer281 4 месяца назад

Oh sir you are just projecting your idea of humility to Krishnamurti. If you jump to save a child from doing a mistake, its your love. Though we meet people doing it only to show their arrogance. Till you have that fundamental quality of love, you will try to bound the freedom also in images, which is nothing but continuation of your ego. Hope it is helpful.

@ajayjoyt 4 месяца назад

@@smilekeshwer281very true

@michaelodriscoll 4 месяца назад

He is in a deep dialogue with a life long friend. Did you listen to the entirety of their dialogues. She saw the " light" within... K jumps in to stop the egocentric ideas from.reinforcing themselves, clearly she has difficulty " Listening Attentively "... Know Thyself. Namaste 🙏

@anmasalcaben 4 месяца назад

Its not about ideas. Trying to describe a realm where words are clearly seen has limited and superficial where they dont convey the whole picture,the nuances. Pupul its most of the time is not listening to him also being to focused in her expression. Also they where friends and somewhat their relation allowed the interruption. Also, being a hustler sometimes is love. Trying to push things. We have too many ideas of how a saint should behave. One of them was a father at 80.

@t-nl1yc 4 месяца назад

That the type of people who thinks enlightened bring doesn't get angry lol they do get angry emotion all of it only difference is they dont react to it. And they know their own mind inside and out. Forget Jina Krishnamurti even Buddha time someone spat on his face.