Intelligent Design and Creationism/Evolution Controversy 

repeating what someone smart says never make the one repeating it smart...........ID exist ,everywhere in nature...evolutionists are just to dumb to understand evolution itself ,how it works ,to understand that evolution goes against science.....

"You better hope there's intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe, 'cos there's bugger all down here on Earth." - Monty Python

materialism is crap.....

@@smithkarine9678 Says the person using material (pc, internet).

@@ergonomover heuuu....are you brain dead ? plug something and come back.......

@@smithkarine9678 You mean something material can help me, even if its "crap"?

@@ergonomover ah well , have you missed a few branches along the way of evolution ???????? you don t seems to have all the chips in the same bag.........

well you just don t even understand evolution and science ,that s all...evolution stands against strict science,evolution is a story for dumb dumbs.......

@@smithkarine9678 Well then, publish your hypothesis, get it peer reviewed and await your Nobel prize, just think of all the accolades, wealth and world wide recognition, I’ll wait but not hold my breath.

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....but, but, but...where did all that stuff come from? Why does it exist at all? Why is there something rather than nothing? If there was nothing trillions of billions of year sago - and I mean absolutely NOTHING, then surely there should also be absolutely, totally, completely NOTHING now? Is that not true? Surely from NOTHING, only NOTHING comes? Now if you are sure that that STUFF exists, then it means that there MUST have existed something eternally!! Right? What other explanation can there be? After all, From NOTHING, NOTHING comes - that is logically correct, isn't it? So are you going to learn about the science of science itself? That is are you willing to study meta-physics? Philosophy and Logic; Ontology?

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@@kevinrtres Hey Kevin, I have been studying physics a long time. Looks like what is called metaphysics is actually the physics/behavior of subatomic particles. I say the cartels of the world don't want us to know how fast subatomic particles spin and pulsate, which is so super-fast that nothing is physical or solid anywhere. This is literally a constantly created universe because of this speed. This speed is where the word magic comes from. This means WE ARE MAGIC. We are the best machines ever built because we heal, or go back to our perfect forms which are those electrical energy fields called atoms. In the book HANDS OF LIGHT written by the physicist Barbara Brennan I have seen many pictures/diagrams of what we look like as eternal holograms and eternal electrical energy fields. My take on looking at these pictures is that these atoms ARE the forms that our souls are. Souls literally exist. First there are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons and then there are the atoms these quarks create. These quarks/atoms take form looking like us, and THEN these souls project us from themselves. We are THEIR images. We have to be images, holographic images because subatomic particles spin so fast. This idea also comes from the Seth books written by Jane Roberts. After all, many call us spirits, but these spirits are actually electrical energy fields. I had a NDE as a child where I felt and heard energy and light beings around me. I knew there was no death then. I began reading these books in my 20s earth time because the soul creating me pointed out books to me. Eternity has been found in the behavior of subatomic particles. Isn't that great? From my 40 years of research I have found there are many cartels on this earth full of people wanting us to stay their slaves. They tell all kinds of lies consistently like hitler did. Death and covid are ponzi schemes that they tell. Look at all the people that believe them. There are NO germs/viruses because this is an electrical existence. We can hurt ourselves with our own withheld emotions and microwaves and 5G, etc. We are in the middle of a reality where joy has been taken over by those that take the most money from others. The federal reserve cartel, the prison cartel, the medical cartel, the kill animals for food cartel, let's put toxic fluoride in the drinking water cartel and the military cartel are all about making themselves huge amounts of money at our expense. I didn't forget the chemical cartels that ruin the rivers and oceans. I have read that the Fukushima catastrophe was done on purpose. The mountains in the ocean outside of Fukushima were bombed to make that tsunami. Plus G.E. must have built those generators low down in their plans to ruin the Japanese economy. Every read the book HIDDEN HISTORY?

When & where did he say this. Cite your source.

@@keithboynton Nice :)

Red Rock yet you are not "intelligent" enough to know how the universe was made, why it was made and you cannot even produce one cell of life from non-life.

Grandpa KJV You are correct. But I have lots of company. No one on the earth "KNOWS' how and why our Universe was made. There is a BIG difference between believing and knowing.

+Grandpa KJV And you're probably not intelligent enough to produce a cellphone from raw materials... ... yet your impotence in this endeavour would hardly place them in the realm of divine miracle. Similarly, the very likely mechanisms of Abiogenisis (the creation of life from non-life) are actually fairly well understood. So is the formation of stars (yet we cant do that in a lab either) ... your argument is rather irrational. Are you somehow surprised that things that happen on the timescale of millions or billions of years cannot be demonstrated over lunch to your satisfaction. Oh well, Sorry about that. Please feel free to continue on in ignorance, surviving as religion always has, devolving to fit in the ever-shrinking gaps found at the very frontier of mans understanding.

+Red Rock so what do you think happens when you die you ignorant faithless fools

When *I* die? Nothing much. But when *you* die? ... ... well, then our species evolves : )

Because you're a fool.

Scott knows nothing about subatomic particles.

She's like the Hillary Clinton of education law.

I can't observe evolution in the USA.

😂😂😂 That is nonsense and it is a lie . Either you don't know what evolution really is or you are just being dishonest about it. Nobody has ever observed evolution. Adaptation is must different from evolution. For the people who don't know a dog is still a dog wheater it's a Chihuahua or blood hound. Evolution vs speciation 🙄 Evolution theory is that one species can change into another over generations of mutations not simply by "natural selection " the sooner people acknowledge the proper definition of evolution theory the better it will be for everyone. Stop with all the double talk. That what con artists do to deceive people. No missing links have been found. Pilt down man was a hoax just like all the other " missing links " that they have found. Evolution has never been observed and it is not evident in the fossil record either.

Biology could not exist if first there were not quarks and atoms. YOU like billions of others are ignoring what you can't see. Gell-Mann won a Nobel prize for his theory of quarks which Kenneth Ford writes about in his book THE QUANTUM WORLD. More specifically, this sentence completely woke me up: "magically bursting forth are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons". At our core, at biology's core are quarks spinning as 3 points of light. How do quarks turn into what is called physical? Don't you know that those billion-dollar energy colliders built around the world NEVER find solidity? They work with energy and only energy because energy is the core of this existence. Atoms are electrical energy fields because they spin as positive/negative poles. All of us consist of 7 billion billion billion atoms. WE ARE ELECTRICAL ENERGY FIELDS. Where in biology is this taught? To me, biology is strictly a money maker, the kind that rockefeller created to make himself king of the world. He was not interested in healing. He wanted to put oil into pills. It is because of this nazi thinking rockefeller that this earth is so full of sick people, so full of cartels.

you just claimed insanity by yourself by that stupid statement....you just don t understand the matter ,period.

“The scripture worshipers put the writings ahead of God. Instead of interpreting God's actions in nature, for example, they interpret nature in the light of the Scripture. Nature says the rock is billions of years old, but the book says different, so even though men wrote the book, and God made the rock and God gave us minds that have found ways to tell how old it is, we still choose to believe the Scripture.” ~~ Sheri S. Tepper ~~ The Fresco

The mental gymnastics begin when they can't reconcile reality with with their book. Willfully deluded they are.

curiousgeorge1940 It's pretty messed up, because it means that the fundamentalist religion is a form of idolatry, where the book is worshiped more than the god it talks about.

KalibreSteelblast Go research Bible History and you'll see the thousands of errors that as many hands have messed up in the copying and recopying of the "original texts". Go to the dozens of web sites that illustrate biblical contradictions to see how "The Word" says one thing, then a little later says the opposite. - JWs ( that Jehovah crowd ) are told they can't read any of that : not even the history of their own religion, because all of that is the work of the devil. Nice touch to keep your sheep in line !

I think Eugenie C. Scott, as a professor is complete wrong about ID when talking about it and misrepresenting it and confusing it with creationism. Its better to say that ID is a challenge to Darwinism evolution natural selection theory. Its open enough space to creativity and exploration in science. It’s not creationism. As Darwinist atheists have a hard time in accepting other theories and doctrines our kids in schools as the truth.

Biology would not exist if not for quarks that are bursting forth and spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons. You can find these words in the book THE QUANTUM WORLD written by the physicist Kenneth Ford. Biology could not exist if first there were not quarks and atoms. YOU like billions of others are ignoring what you can't see. Gell-Mann won a Nobel prize for his theory of quarks. More specifically, this sentence completely woke me up: "magically bursting forth are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons". At our core, at biology's core are quarks spinning as 3 points of light. How do quarks turn into what is called physical? Don't you know that those billion-dollar energy colliders built around the world NEVER find solidity? They work with energy and only energy because energy is the core of this existence. Atoms are electrical energy fields because they spin as positive/negative poles. All of us consist of 7 billion billion billion atoms. WE ARE ELECTRICAL ENERGY FIELDS. Where in biology is this taught? To me, biology is strictly a money maker, the kind that rockefeller created to make himself king of the world. He was not interested in healing. He wanted to put oil into pills. It is because of this nazi thinking rockefeller that this earth is so full of sick people, so full of cartels.

+terry z When a "Creation Scientist" wins a Nobel prize and passes peer review, then maybe, it would be worth considering. Until then, it will remain fantasy and magic!

Jeffrey P Very true Jeff. I find it almost impossible to discuss anything with the Creationists. Ever listen to Ken Ham? What an idiot!

terry z We are dealing with very strong religious indoctrination, with many of these people. I am meeting a refreshing number of younger Christians, who do accept scientific origins so, there is hope.

Jeffrey P Yes, there is hope. Still, I do not believe in a god.

terry z Neither do I, but I find less to argue about with most of the moderates. The only problem I have with them is, they really have to go to extremes in cherry picking the Bible, to make it more palatable.

well ;good try ,but its the exact opposite..evolution is a story for dumbs.......evolution doesn t stand the scrutiny of real science...ohhh by the way ,repeating the stupid mistakes as a smart claim of a dumb Weitzenhoffer will make you look as stupid......

People who quote others cannot put forth their own thoughts -me

Maybe you don't know where you are and you just made it clear to me with your answer. Yes, you are a resident of this devine zoo. But you are one of these lucky people who don´t know that they are zoo residents He has created to bring some fun in his boring everyday life. I´m one of the unlucky people how know where they are. But make some funny noices to please Him. I have a prayer for you. "Almighty alien from hyperspace. Don't kill us with your laser cannons like you did before." The Extraterrestrial has also created dinosaurs for His zoo. When they bored Him, He killed everyone with a laser. The burn marks can still be found in layers of earth. Make Him happy. Act like a good resident of His zoo. But don't argue against why you exist or He will burn you up like dinosaurs.

@@marculatour6229 what in the world are you babbling about? Your comment suggests that you’ve some good herb…wanna pass it to the left hand side? 😂

Absolutely 🤗

Of course saying doesn't make it so. Creationism is a fact evolution is a bunch of lies. Evidence please.

That’s putting it mildly 🤣🤣

"Evolution" is not science. It is speculation and conjecture about what happened in the past. It requires belief and faith without proof . . . meaning it is a religion.

@@philroe2363 The fossil record provides more evidence and proof of evolution than has ever been dreamed up in favour of religion. - Which is why the religious obsessives try to deny that any of it even exists.

@@madgeordie4469 the fossil record shows stasis of species over time, not transition. In fact, there is no known transitional record in the fossils. Not one. The ONLY thing you evolutionists do is point at creatures that have similar features to two other creatures and say "transitional fossil." But this doesn't demonstrate "evolution;" absent a transitional record, it only demonstrates special creation. Further, the vast majority of fossils in the world show catastrophic water burial - something we DON'T see happening today. This situation speaks loudly of a one time massive global flood, not "millions of years of slow burial." The fossil record sustains Biblical creation . . . not Darwinistic "evolution." Sorry.

@@philroe2363 If species were static the plants and animals with their associated fossils from the Permian, Ordovician, Carboniferous, Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous eras plus every other era up to the present would all be the same - which they are not. So much for being static. As evolution is a constant process which never stops all fossils and even the species of organisms alive today are all transitional. There is no such thing as a completely developed species. Finally while some fossils show that their originators suffered violent deaths, often by natural causes such as floods this does not apply to all or even most. Hence, no planet wide flood. Hard to believe that one person could be so wrong about so many things in one post but there you go...

@@philroe2363 you are simply wrong, you know nothing of this subject other than what religious zealots told you. Evolution is a fact, so is common descent. DNA alone shows it beyond all doubt, just as well as it can tell you who your parents are. There is no evdience for any of the ludicrous claims in the bible, a book that describes a fl;at earth coveredc by a firmament with waters above and below... Being created before the sun, all of that is ludicrously wrong, and you would never think it matches science were you not indoctrinated into it.

This woman is rational?!! Get real. Richard Dawkins himself admitted to the possibility of intelligent design. This woman is either intelectually impotent, either a liar, hypocrite, manipulatori and a Marxist. Possibly a combination of all the mentioned above.

@@keithboynton your ignorance is a bliss! Actually Dawkins DID EXACTLY THAT, in a 2004 interview with Ben Stein, contained in the documentary, " Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed". I suggest you study more and put less nerve on display.

Huw Rees Music It is neither weird nor insignificant. If such a system is designed, it's designed VERY badly. What would that say about the designer?

Huw Rees Music in this scenario we explore two possibilities. 1. so called designer doesn't exist or 2. so called designer exists and sucks at his job. Given these two scenarios then it reveals that even if we do accept the premise that a designer exists, the designer is hardly to be beheld since afterall, if people could design things than this supernatural designer, what good is the designer?

Huw Rees Music It's not just in my opinion. It's a fact (and one of many in nature) If a system were created AS IS by an omnipotent being, WHY ISN'T IT PERFECT?

"I don't understand why you think it would have to be perfect". Why would a perfect being DELIBERATELY create something imperfect?

Or better, the playground in the same area as a sewage plant, or in the case of the male, directly sharing space with waste water disposal. Seriously? An intelligent designer couldn't do better than that? Oh! One more! Giving most tetrapods a singe line from the various orifices in the face for intake of food, water, and air, with only a switch-select to prevent drowning?

Creationists had been unsuccessful in getting their brand of religious "Creation Science" taught in science class so they manufactured this "Intelligent Designer" facade. The "controversy" was manufactured by a collection of Creationists through what is called the Wedge Document and formed an organization called the Discovery Institute to distribute their nonsense. They do no discovery of any sort other than quote mine and seek donations. In return the gullible and scientifically illiterate get a pamphlet and videos so they can further distribute their propaganda.

Evolution could not exist because energy is constantly spinning/vibrating/pulsating/etc. Evolution is built on what is called the solid. Those billion-dollar energy colliders built around the world NEVER find solidity. This is an electrical energy field world where we are electrical energy field beings because atoms spin as electrical energy fields. It didn't take all that many words to show you up as a disservice to humanity.

@@pureenergy4578 talk to me after youve taken a collegiate lvl course in quantum mechanics and thermodynamics.

Because you must make a special case for a backward nation. Allow them their hamless(?) little crazy beliefs.

There is not much controversy anywhere in the world about the validity of Darwinism. It is merely a Creationist claim made to give their irrational beliefs a veneer of respectability by fooling people into thinking that if such a controversy does exist there must be some scientific backing for those beliefs (of which there conspicuously is not). In other words, its a Creationist scam.

Eugenie has her head on a box, and Darwinism evolution has a monopoly on education to teach our kids only evolution right? What century this Amazon women is living?

@@bluejysm2007 This woman is evil and her fairytale of Evolutionism won't save her that's for sure.. "DARWIN MADE IT POSSIBLE TO BE AN INTELLECTUALLY FULFILLED ATHEIST" RICHARD DAWKINS WWW.EVOLUTIONFAIRYTALE.COM

@@jaydelgado1994 How dare she use science instead of your solid yet evidence free conjecture!

what if we introduced life / dna to mars?

name a design that did not come from a mind. why do we have a branch of science/engineering that is called biomimicry? why copy a non design into a design?

@@ricoigor dna 3B bits of info per cell.....people think it came from mud

Obviously you don't know much about the evidence and the reasons that scientists have used to support their argument for intelligent design. But that is okay if you don't comprehend the logic behind it and would rather go with the illogical presumption and presupposition that the atheists wanna be scientists use 😂 It just shows that you are not willing to give up your opinions for the objective truths which are found in scientific discoveries. Sarcasm ( yeah sure just accept the statement of the atheist blindly about their " scientific discoveries " and that is not biased at all ) Cognitive dissonance is an atheists best friend.

Not only that, but also what was the cause of time, space and matter, aka Universe, to come into existence. Also how about mathematical odds of life appearing by chance. Etc. Etc. Etc.

@@pappycool YOU ARE A LIAR. YOU LIED WHEN YOU SAID DR SCOTT IS A HYPOCRITE. YOU LIED WHEN YOU SAID DR SCOTT IS A MARXIST. YOU LIED WHEN YOU SAID DR SCOTT IS A LIAR. YOU LIED WHEN YOU SAID DR SCOTT IS A MANIPULATOR. YOU LIED WHEN YOU POSTED YOUR QUOTE MINE OF DARWIN'S STATEMENT ABOUT THE EYE. YOU ARE A LIAR.

@@garywalker447 lol, it is true I said thatvand i stand by my statement! Every single modern atheist on this planet today is a Marxist wheter they know it or not. Atheism is mandatory step in the Marxist formation. No kne can be a Marxist without being an atheist first. You are a Marxist too by the way. Yiu may not acknowl3dge it but it is a fact.

@@garywalker447 here is the challenge again: pick from biology astrophysics, or chemistry, as we already yiu were left speechless about the mathematical and paleontology evidence you were given. I dare you. This will be a copy paste whenever you attempt to take the conversation into ridiculousness. Your choice. So what's it going to be?

@@pappycool lol, it is true I said thatvand i stand by my statement! Every single modern atheist on this planet today is a Marxist wheter they know it or not. Atheism is mandatory step in the Marxist formation. No kne can be a Marxist without being an atheist first. You are a Marxist too by the way. Yiu may not acknowl3dge it but it is a fact.

No one is debating mere evolution. It's when people say life and its diversity arose via blind and mindless processes that there is debate.

@@sombodysdad evolution has nothing to do with how life originated

@@sombodysdad origin of life is still a mystery to science and therefore everybody

@@sombodysdad There is no debate. You don't have any science.

@@logicalatheist1065 How life originated dictates how it subsequently evolved. It's only if blind and mindless processes produced life would we say they also produced its diversity. An Intelligently designed OoL means that organisms were intelligently designed with the information and ability to evolve and adapt. Evolution by means of intelligent design, ie telic processes. Genetic algorithms exemplify evolution by means of telic processes.

She is amazing only to those more intelectually impotent than she is. Religious fundamentalism?!! Are you aware of the fact that it is the chortsian moral standards that are the foundation of the democracy and prosperity in the western world? Stop being a idiot.

@@pappycool Dr Eugenie Scott is a real scientist unlike your fraud heros of Stephen Meyer and the other liars at the Discovery Institute. "Are you aware of the fact that it is the chortsian moral standards that are the foundation of the democracy and prosperity in the western world?" Another lie. Your biblical morality forbids all other religions. That is a fundemental freedom in all western democracy. There is NO trace of any democracy in your bloody bible, nor do women have human rights in your bible. Your bible condones slavery, something gone from our democracies. Sorry but your biblical morality has little to do with the rights and freedoms we enjoy in modern society. Again you show yourself to be an ignorant liar.

silly argument

@@ozowen5961 Don't you agree that a potter is cleverer than his pots ?

@@tedgrant2 Your argument presupposes a designer. It's not clear at all that is required. I believe there is such, but the argument is not one I would use. It hopes the listener is poorly educated

@@ozowen5961 When you see a pot on sale in a shop, do you presuppose that someone made the pot ? Or do you think it just popped into existence, all by itself ?

@@tedgrant2 I see you are a single argument kind of guy. You must be proud.

I wonder if he has faith in his wife..

That is a caricature of Christian faith. The Bible says, Test everything, and hold on to that which is true. 1st Thessalonians 5.21. How is that blind? How is that not science?

@@femibabalola4057 Creationism is not science. It fails the tests. Science disproved its primary claims.

@@ozowen5961 So, what is the age of the oldest tree?

@@femibabalola4057 What is the orbital velocity of the Moon? Gee, aren't irrelevant questions fun?

François D especially our wonderful schools. We really are doing so well as a country. Our kids are the smartest, most well behaved children on earth!

+François D So the argument is between the clear minded and the deluded? Do you come to that conclusion as the result of careful study, or is it a belief you hold? Seriously curious.

world peace I dont have to do it , Darwin did it all

François D So it is a belief you hold

world peace It is not a belief, it is a reality.

If you mean evolution as "in all life came from a common ancestor" that is not a fact. And I say that based on the definition she gives for what can be known: only those things that can be tested and examined. There is no way to know, as an absolute fact, that we all came from a common ancestor.

@@TheAaronYost Evolution is descent with modification. Observed fact.

Evolution is both theory and fact at the same time.

Evolution is built on believing in solidity which those billion-dollar energy colliders built around the world NEVER FIND. This is an energy existence where subatomic particles are constantly spinning/vibrating and pulsating this world into existence. Creation is constant.

Yiu are intelevtually impotent my friend and ignorant as they get. If not, and you poses the knowledge than it is possible that you are also stupid, , incapable of rational reasoning, along with other possibilities such as: hypocrite, liar, manipulator, marxist, etc. Take your pick.

@@pappycool Now point all of those words at yourself because you don't read books of any kind. Biology could not exist if first there were not quarks and atoms. YOU like billions of others are ignoring what you can't see. Gell-Mann won a Nobel prize for his theory of quarks which Kenneth Ford writes about in his book THE QUANTUM WORLD. More specifically, this sentence completely woke me up: "magically bursting forth are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons". At our core, at biology's core are quarks spinning as 3 points of light. How do quarks turn into what is called physical? Don't you know that those billion-dollar energy colliders built around the world NEVER find solidity? They work with energy and only energy because energy is the core of this existence. Atoms are electrical energy fields because they spin as positive/negative poles. All of us consist of 7 billion billion billion atoms. WE ARE ELECTRICAL ENERGY FIELDS. Where in biology is this taught? To me, biology is strictly a money maker, the kind that rockefeller created to make himself king of the world. He was not interested in healing. He wanted to put oil into pills. It is because of this nazi thinking rockefeller that this earth is so full of sick people, so full of cartels.

it has withstood the scrutiny of 150 years of critical testing and has been confirmed by predictions made.

@@IIrandhandleII except if someone’s crazy old book seems to say the opposite

@@IIrandhandleII ...in your dreams!!! You are so funny!