Intelligent Octopus Agile - Coming Soon?

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Could Octopus launch a new tariff based on Agile Octopus, called Intelligent Octopus Agile? I discuss how such a tariff might operate in this video...
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@hyweljthomas Месяц назад

Nice one Gary. I would definitely be interested in Intelligent Agile. Since buying the battery in February, I have been slightly underwhelmed by the lack of automation available - with the exception of some good 3rd party options - you really have to manage charging and discharging manually. Sometimes Agile prices are all over the place - today buying at 7am was cheaper than 2.30am - and without a clearer view on battery SOC and charge times, any automated system wouldn't do the job. If Octopus can get this sorted, I would sign up in a flash.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Thanks 🙏 yeah, automation is the key - and whilst there are a few third party solutions that provide automation solutions that are eminently user-customisable, I’m thinking that for most people, a solution with limited or even no customisation would be sufficient or even desired. And the extent of the customisation might be simply to prioritise financial reward over environmental benefit (or vice versa) in the event of a conflict….

@ionlywanttrains Месяц назад

The next feature I hope they implement is controlling multiple devices at once, e.g. home battery, EV and heat pump. As far as I know it's only possible to register a single device as intelligent. By combining it would be possible to charge an EV, charge a home battery and heat hot water at the same time or stagger them as the grid requires.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

That’s an interesting possibility! 😀👍🏻

@JamesGeddesTV 19 дней назад

That's what Home Assistant is for

@kevinhill1851 Месяц назад

Thanks for your content Gary - both this video and your many others. Most important for such a tariff would be support for integration with a wide range of batteries and a wide range of cars/chargers. There would be little point if only GivEnergy batteries were supported. The list of EVs/chargers has been growing, but with the Flux only support GivEnergy, most people will be out-of-luck (including me.)

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Hi Kevin, yeah - I agree and I hope that list extends before long! 👍🏻

@geoffjolliffe6509 Месяц назад

GARY great stuff. You didnt mention the export tariff for go which is only 8p. Octopus logic is thT i import at 9 so my export has to be less. BUT, Most of my export tends to be late afternoon when all the other household drains on my solar are over so 30 KWH today but only 8p yet they sell that for a lot more and need it to balance

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Hi Geoff, thanks - now are you talking about the export rate for Octopus Go? Yeah, it does seem quite low compared just all the other tariffs - I don’t see why that would be 🤷‍♂️

@gotmygoodelf 21 день назад

I am on IOF and i would seriously consider IOA if it became available, would like to see if it competes with fixed outgoing though as agile outgoing is rather low.

@GaryDoesSolar 21 день назад

Yeah, the Agile Outgoing rates could do with being a bit more appealing... Makes you wonder why Fixed Outgoing rates are (relatively) high?

@adrianflower3230 Месяц назад

Interesting. Thanks for the heads up. for me, it would need to maximise revenue first and support Solis inverters as that is what I have.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

You're most welcome. And let's hope Solis and other manufacturers are added in before long!

@geoffreycoan Месяц назад

I'd think one of the key changes would have to be some form of time of day export rate. At the moment on agile+15p export there's no incentive to export during the peak. I use predbat and it only force exports ahead of lowering import prices - eg to make room to fill the battery at a lower rate. Doesn't feel the best way to help the grid

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Agreed, and hopefully Octopus will take this into account when designing Intelligent Octopus Agile...

@redshift3 Месяц назад

For Intelligent Agile to work, Octopus would have to be able to control at least one device i.e. battery or EV charging or both. As a quid pro quo they could make agile outgoing the same price as Agile incoming. Prices would have to be very competitive to attract EV owners (with any reasonable usage) from the EV tariffs

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Interesting ideas 👍🏻 😀

@AndrewEbling Месяц назад

This is the thing - I'm open to the idea of Agile but as an Intelligent Go customer, with solar and battery, financially it simply makes no sense to switch to Agile. But if Octopus could offer something closer to Intelligent Go for EV charging, I'd definitely consider it.

@Qdex44 Месяц назад

@@AndrewEbling Agreed, the Go tariffs are hard to beat at the moment.

@AndrewEbling Месяц назад

@@Qdex44 the new EON Next Drive tariff looks good. Except it means dealing with EON 😂

@bradleyarcher9840 Месяц назад

I think the intelligent tariffs are the way to go, set and forget. Once V2G or at least V2H becomes mainstream the 4pm - 7pm peak export time will become a license to print money. Your car charges overnight on cheap wind. The battery keeps your off grid as it’s also charging on cheap wind. Solar pushes the fossil fuels off the market during the day. Home batteries and car batteries force the peak down at a huge financial gain.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

I like your thinking! 😀

@stuartburns8657 Месяц назад

I think that's overly optimistic and a tad naive perhaps? In a UK in which lets say we get to 25% of households have both heatpumps and an EV (BEV) surely the current 'cheap' time would be over subscribed, thus raising the price. Then, assuming all those BEV's could do V2G/L wouldn't that over saturate and dilute pricing? Lovely idea, but even with the so called grid expansions and reengineering being undertaken, I doesn't account for that scenario from a infrastructure perspective.

@JohnR31415 Месяц назад

@@stuartburns8657 you’re thinking that fixed time tariffs are all that’s possible. We’ll have flexible tariffs which have some communication/control. I don’t care if my off peak is at a specific time, I just want to have, on average a couple of hours every twelve. If I can get that information the day before most of the time, that’s good enough - I’ll set the timer on the dishwasher, and automation will take care of the rest.

@stuartburns8657 Месяц назад

@@JohnR31415 No John, I understand that more dynamic tariffs exist, I was using those as an example. But let's go with your example, say Octopus tracker which tried to give you a days notice. Surely then if prices are expected to be low the following day, there will be a explosion of usage from appliances / HP's / EV's, so much so that the gas turbines have to fired up to match demand? Now energy companies cannot go back on the advertised rate, but have lost money, and will stop or severely hamper such schemes and initiatives? Same / similar with plunge pricing as well isn't it? Short notification that in x hours we'll pay YOU per kwh. This is possible due to more green energy being generated than is needed, and it's cheaper for the energy companies and generators to gave it used, rather than pay compensation to have it turned off due to a chronic lack of grid storage. However, unless some overarching dynamic control is in place (which to be fair to Octopus they're trying to do with EV charging) you can easily get a situation in which the we pay you per kwh ends up artificially increasing demand BEYOND the excess green energy, thus again necessitating gas turbines spinning up, and more costs to the generator.

@bradleyarcher9840 Месяц назад

As someone who works for a certain energy company installing solar, batteries, heat pumps and car chargers I wouldn’t class myself as naive 😘 If you keep up with with current trends, the more smart tech we adopt the quicker we can add more large scaler renewables into the mix further increasing the need for more smart tech. Think big picture, not individual house. A good place to look into would be the inter-connectors coming online such as the Viking link. With Europe gaining a higher integration level we can push wind power down and pull solar energy up.

@kookicck Месяц назад

Informative video. But in Pakistan we don't have multiple tariffs. Still i enjoy your every video.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Thanks, and I can’t imagine it will be long before smart tariffs appear there, assuming renewables start to take hold 👍🏻

@user-ps2zr7jp6p Месяц назад

Thanks Gary, your mate István recommended your channel, and I have found it very useful. Appreciating that your sponsors are Octopus, I still found this summary very useful. Am about to install a battery and solar solution and am already on Octopus Intelligent Go for my car charging and so am interested in see what Octopus options I should consider houng forward.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Cheers, and please pass on my regards to Istvan! 😀 I’m not sponsored by Octopus but I do think they’re way ahead of the competition 🚀

@SpeakToTheGeekTech Месяц назад

Here's a thought though. Let's say for a moment that there was a near blanket take-up of smart tariffs designed to smooth out the grid. If those tariffs succeed then surely that means that there are no longer any expensive (or cheap) periods for Agile to play with meaning that there's now no benefit of moving to Agile. So would Agile self-combust from its own success? And if it did, would that mean the spikes come back and it's needed again in sort sort of Agile cycle? I guess what I'm trying to figure out is what happens when Agile succeeds? I think there needs to be a plan/incentive for customers to stay with it when prices smooth out.

@stuartburns8657 Месяц назад

I've often wondered the same myself!

@AndyKennedy Месяц назад

I've wondered what the future of agile would look like, I feel like these are the glory days, although there hasn't been any free electric for weeks (and months?) now. Whilst I thini your theory is correct, unfortunately it's just not going to happen as people in flats aren't going to have space for batteries etc so there's always going to be those oeaks, though they will likely level out years down the line a little. What I think would be more infuential is as more and more green energy comes onto the grid, say in 10 years, we probably wont see the free enery at all as hopefully got plenty of large battery storage around the country, but in return we'd hopefully have rates of 5-10p/kwh across the board as it;s costing so little to produce as not having to transport and burn stuff

@kristiansnelling9576 Месяц назад

Surely everyone could even have a small battery, especially as battery density gets better, even in tiny home. Yes, the technology is not there today, but energy density has been improving rapidly in recent times

@stuartburns8657 Месяц назад

@@kristiansnelling9576 I like the idea of those large scale water based grid batteries.

@kristiansnelling9576 Месяц назад

@@stuartburns8657 me too!

@dennishaggerty463 Месяц назад

This is an interesting prospect and the debate around different tariffs and their continued availability is highly dependent upon a genuinely competitive energy market. Let’s assume national grid investment allows all of the planned green energy to go on line sooner rather than later. We will be faced with a choice whether to go for a distributed model where demand is smoothed out by intelligent flexibility of consumer demand and feeding energy back into the grid at peak times or, more likely, a mixture of ‘battery farms’ to supplement the gas powered peak demand providers and, assuming massive over production of wind generation, the use of surplus electricity to produce green hydrogen that is used in those gas power stations instead of fossil fuels. A utopian green energy future or too much power in too few hands?

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Great points, Dennis - and I’ll be addressing some of this in a future video 👍🏻

@Nb0ssProductions Месяц назад

Very interesting Gary - I am an Octopus fan too. However I am a little uneasy that I seem to be making investment decisions (battery capacity, additional solar etc) based on the existence of their creative Smart tariffs. How comfortable do you feel that this environment of favourable tariffs for early adopters will last

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Thanks 🙏 and it’s hard to predict the longer term shape and size of smart tariffs going forward. Where I’ve got to with my thinking is that with increased renewable generation, until there is sufficient storage capability, we’ll be living with “spikey” energy and that’s where clever smart tariffs come into their own… and I’d imagine most people in a mass market scenario would be happy for a third party (which could be their energy supplier but doesn’t have to be) to entirely manage their solar, battery and other equipment for maximum environmental or financial benefit. Then maybe in 10 years’ time when there is sufficient grid-scale battery storage to flatten out the peaks.and troughs of solar and wind, energy will become super-cheap for everyone and we won’t need smart tariffs anymore… Who knows?? 😀

@adibbins Месяц назад

Hi Gary, I recall from a previous video that the intelligent tariffs are limited to certain equipment, well any chance Octopus could extend the list of support equipment? Thx

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Definitely, the demand is there for other equipment suppliers to be added, and any suppliers who are not making their equipment compatible with such tariffs (i.e. allowing remote control via secured API) will simply lose out in the market to those that do. It's so easy to add such capability too!

@frankbowe4221 Месяц назад

I have recently bought a system with a Solax inverter, it would appear that Octopus Energy only apply their "Inteligent" servis to Give Energy products. It would be good for them to link in with others.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Hi Frank, yeah - hopefully Solax and other manufacturers’ products are added soon… 👍🏻

@ianbeck5897 Месяц назад

I think that the idea is a good one. We're on Agile but I'm not so sure that it would work well for us because our battery is G98 (a retrofit) and cannot be set to export to the grid and we have no plans for an EV. Furthermore, as our FIT is on generation and not export, it's in our interest to keep as much of the solar we generate as we can and, obviously, charge our batteries up at the cheapest rate. Instead, I've written a few automations in Home Assistant which set a battery charge period based upon time of day and spot check SOC. This allows me to brim the battery overnight and to top it up to 70% in the afternoon - both charging periods being set based upon typical times when Agile is cheaper than average. Ultimately I would like to be able to find the cheapest charging period and have that decide when the batteries should be charged, but that's a project for another day.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Hi Ian, it sounds like you ahead of e a good strategy there given the constraints you’re under 👍🏻

@kristiansnelling9576 Месяц назад

Does your G98 not allow any export at all? I thought that G98 allowed up to 3.6kW export by default....

@ianbeck5897 Месяц назад

@@kristiansnelling9576 We already have the capability to export 3.68KW (or thereabouts) from our solar panels (which were installed by a previous owner of our house). When we fitted the batteries last year we didn't want the hassle of DNO approval to increase the export capability were the batteries as well as the solar exporting at the same time - our plan was to try to use as much of the capacity ourselves as possible as we are on a generation rather than an export FIT. Consequently, our batteries are set up such that they don't export to the grid, at least at the user interface level. As we are paid for generation, and at a reasonable price too, we don't feel a strong urge to export so additional DNO approval seems to be more trouble than it is worth.

@kristiansnelling9576 Месяц назад

@@ianbeck5897 Got it. Makes perfect sense and falls in line with what I understand the G98 allows. I just thought you were saying you couldn't export because of the G98, which does not align with my understanding.

@geoffreycoan Месяц назад

Have a look at predbat for your battery optimisation in home assistant

@davidgordon773 Месяц назад

Hi Gary, I’m always very impressed with you videos however I struggle to get my head around the various tariffs available. I’m currently on intelligent octopus go.I have compatible ev, 6 kw solar, 9.5 kw battery and I’m about to have a heat pump fitted. Off the top oh your head can you advise what will be the best tariff for me going forward.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Hi David, I'm not yet in a position to provide individual advice, but when I'm soon in a similar situation to you (when I get an EV), then IOG is the tariff to be on, for those looking for the best financial return, I reckon - no other tariffs can get close! For those more interested in environmental impact, then Agile is the best (in my view) and Intelligent Octopus Agile would be even better! :-)

@davidgordon773 Месяц назад

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. Very much appreciated.

@kpec01 Месяц назад

I would like a setting that if a price went below x I could charge the batteries to 100% automatically ...

@devjon123 Месяц назад

"WonderWatt" does that. It's free at the moment. I use it to manage my Agile tariff. You can set a trigger to automatically charge your battery if the price drops below a value that you select. It does lots of other useful things too. think that it's excellent and well worth checking out. ( No connection, just a very happy user }

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Yeah, certainly services like MyEnergyOptimiser allow for this kind of tailoring with Agile…

@hughyu9085 Месяц назад

Hi Gary, EON seems to have better deal don’t you think?

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Hi Hugh, yeah, if you can qualify for one of the EV tariffs then they’re hard to beat. I think it’s great that other energy companies are following Octopus’ lead with competing tariffs - and on the face of it, EON Drive V3 looks to be the best EV tariff in the UK at the moment. It’s a bit like savings accounts though: banks will often offer a highly attractive rate to win customers only to dilute that rate after a year or so. Therefore, I’d always suggest that people consider the wider company offer (customer support etc.) before jumping in. And at the moment, in my view, only Octopus Energy scores highly on all counts 👍🏻

@DanielEarlester Месяц назад

How can Octopus Agile be a good tariff in the winter? The prices can go up to a £ per kwh at peak times in the evening when heating is required. They can be higher than a fixed rate all day. I'm shifting off to a fixed rate asap.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

I was on Agile myself October thru April - and it saved me a ton of money - essentially I charged my home battery using cheaper overnight energy and used that during the peak period. If you don't have an EV, I'd argue that over the winter, Agile is hard to beat... (If you do have an EV, then the EV tariffs like Go and IOG are hard to beat ANY time of year)...

@simoncove1 Месяц назад

Is it coming? The issue we have as a business is that flux and go are domestic tariffs. When my British Gas fixed rate runs out I was going to set the battery to charge at night and 2-4pm to ensure I don’t inch peak charge. Agile is allowed as a business tariff. But yeah intelligent oct of allowed as a business tariff would be better. I’m not quite sure why go and flux can’t apply to businesses to be honest. We are a dental practice situated in a domestic style building with east west 8.7kWh. Apart from the 8-5/7 opening we are fairly domestic in nature

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

I believe it is indeed coming. Those on Agile who make use of automation, already benefit - see my video here for discussion around that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hzrbm5wm3O4.htmlsi=BkzJbefclMI8ip_m Therefore, it make sense that an energy provider would add further value to their tariff offerings in this way. Remember, Octopus has quietly been building insight from their own Octopus Labs Agile automation... And country-wide management has greater environmental and financial benefits, not least because of the value of the inherent VPP :-) And I'd imagine Octopus would seek to share part of the financial benefit with the customer.

@MarkMincher-Lockett Месяц назад

I think AI will take over the management of these smart tariffs and will be the “smart” way forward. Something that learns your personal household usage profile then works out the most cost effective way to buy and sell energy over the next 24 hrs also taking into account weather compensation. Personally I think this should be controlled by the user rather than the supplier for obvious financial reasons. I’ve just installed Sigenergy’s Sigenstor combined with solar, ev and heart pump that has some AI functionality so will be interesting to see how it works with Octopus smart tariffs.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

I agree - given a complex set of inputs, an AI will always be better than any human (or even human-built computer control software)... It'll be an interesting next couple of years... :-)

@petercole6698 Месяц назад

Is intelligent octopus flux only available for certain batteries?

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Yes, only GivEnergy at the moment, but hopefully further brands in the future…

@norfolkecokiwi Месяц назад

@@GaryDoesSolar This would be the biggest issue I would say for most battery owners. The fact that it seems to take soooooooo long for Octopus to approve additional hardware (I'm talking about EV chargers too for Intelligent Go tariff) would be the biggest stumbling block for many people.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

@@norfolkecokiwi Agreed - and hopefully this will speed up over time - especially as other manufacturers open up their products so they can be used with such tariffs.

@garysmall1080 4 дня назад

I am on Intelligent Octopus Flux now. Would it be better to go to this Intelligent Octopus Agile, if it existed, during the winter months and then swap back next spring? I would definitely be up for it if it helped the environment and my wallet at the same time. PS: I have NO EV.

@GaryDoesSolar 2 часа назад

Hi Gary, unfortunately, that's not a straight-forward question to answer because it depends on your solar and battery setup and also your daily usage. You can model both tariffs with this utility I developed if you wish: garydoessolar.com/utilities/dailymodellingutility/

@linkup1958 Месяц назад

Giveback are now offering a year long scheme which looks good for givenergy battery owners

@stuartburns8657 Месяц назад

Where do I find info on that, their website doesn't mention anything that seems to relate?

@kristiansnelling9576 Месяц назад

@@stuartburns8657 Try on your GivEnergy cloud portal if you own a GivEnery system

@linkup1958 Месяц назад

Hi there, Thanks for taking part in GivBack over the winter. We’ve been working on new ways for you to earn money and help the grid with your battery all year round. We’re excited to invite you to a new pilot programme that will use your battery to manage live fluctuations on the electricity grid. How it works: 1. Opt-in to the pilot by clicking the button below 2. We'll use your battery to respond when the grid is strained. Depending on the grid in your local area, this could be multiple times a week or less than once a month. 3. At the end of each month we'll pay you for export and import. We'll pay 50p/kWh for export we trigger, and 30p/kWh for import we trigger. Both export & import are

@linkup1958 Месяц назад

Got an email yesterday, signed up, hoping I will still get the 15p unit on top from Octopus

@stuartburns8657 Месяц назад

@@linkup1958 Thanks for that. The last bit about the export and import fees was cut short? Getting paid twice by double dipping (cake and eat it) hmm, seems too good to be true, as surely then themselves get paid in turn by the grid? Let me know and good luck

@redshift3 Месяц назад

Agile fixed? You mean outgoing fixed?

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Yeah, sorry - got totally mixed up with the terms!

@richardeskins Месяц назад

Sadly with Intelligent Octopus Go you do need to worry about it - when it offers random ‘extra’ cheap charging slots it will drain your house battery unless you make changes to your inverter settings. It’ll be much better when it can control this.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Are you talking about Intelligent Octopus Go?

@richardeskins Месяц назад

@@GaryDoesSolar yep.

@radiotowers1159 Месяц назад

Interesting, Ive just came of Agile and moved to intelligent Go, I may move back for the winter, but to be Intelligent they need a greater number of battery makes supported to enable integration . Export paid would have to be at least the existing fixed outgoing price, as in the winter I occasionally had to boost the battery just before the peak hours as some days my solar only produced 2kW . It would also depend on the size of your battery system as I find my 6.5kWh growatt really should be double that.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing your experience here - will be useful to many!

@cliveharrington1553 Месяц назад

I'm EVs only (but low miles) and Agile has easily been better than the EV tariffs , eg 30% saving in May, but a lot more in April and March averaging 1.49 p/kWh and 5 p/kWh, of course taking advantage of using it when cheap...

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

That’s pretty good performance 👍🏻

@nolandan1 Месяц назад

For me, the agile outgoing rates are too low. The only time they generally exceed 15p is during the peak, and even then, not by much. The spread between import and export should not be so much. In theory all of the infra costs are covered in the standing charge, so I think the spread on the prices should be less extreme.

@nolandan1 Месяц назад

Oh, and I wouldn’t want intelligent as I prefer local optimisation with home built solution. One of the downsides of the intelligent programme is that octopus are giving additional incentives to people to hand over control. I think agile should be the best pricing available with all the risks and rewards that this entails.

@devjon123 Месяц назад

That's why I'm on Agile import combined with outgoing fixed at 15p

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Yeah, it would be interesting to see how Octopus Energy designed IOA 👍🏻

@colinturner7363 Месяц назад

i wouldnt go intelligent octopus tarrif as i dont want outside control given to my supplier, i am a octopus go customer and switch between agile and go depending on the time of month and rates they are at the time.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Sounds like a good strategy, Colin. And I understand your position about giving up control, which I discuss in detail in this video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MWE8XZlLlho.htmlsi=_S9DrxD0tMO1hcy8 I guess you have to trust someone/something, whether that’s Home Automation or Octopus Energy. My view is that Octopus Energy can be trusted to do what’s right 👍🏻

@helipeek2736 Месяц назад

I’m waiting for Intelligent Octopus Flux Off - for those who spend all their time independent of the grid. 🤣😂

@David-bl1bt Месяц назад

Dont they already have this?....my wife keeps on lamenting how fluxed off she is trying to understand all these bewildering tariffs 🤣😂

@helipeek2736 Месяц назад

@@David-bl1bt to be honest, I’ve always found them helpful and willing to spend time to help a Luddite like me to navigate through their offerings. However, I’m sure others may not agree depending on their experience.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Lol

@markbennett6658 Месяц назад

@@David-bl1btget the Octopus Compare app and she won’t be so ‘fluxed off’. It confirmed to me I was still better off with Agile than GO. I can’t have any ‘Intelligent’ tariffs because I have the wrong EV, EV charger and storage battery🤦‍♂️

@Haymarket47 Месяц назад

Octopus are brilliant? I’ve been waiting 9 months for them to install smart meters. I wouldn’t call hat brilliant.

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

Is there something peculiar about your situation? What is Octopus saying to you?

@Nb0ssProductions Месяц назад

Email Greg Jackson the CEO - worked for me

@linkup1958 Месяц назад

Hi Gary Just received an email from axle regarding their new giveback scheme, what are your thoughts. Hi there, Thanks for taking part in GivBack over the winter. We’ve been working on new ways for you to earn money and help the grid with your battery all year round. We’re excited to invite you to a new pilot programme that will use your battery to manage live fluctuations on the electricity grid. How it works: 1. Opt-in to the pilot by clicking the button below 2. We'll use your battery to respond when the grid is strained. Depending on the grid in your local area, this could be multiple times a week or less than once a month. 3. At the end of each month we'll pay you for export and import. We'll pay 50p/kWh for export we trigger, and 30p/kWh for import we trigger. Both export & import are

@GaryDoesSolar Месяц назад

The first thing I’d like to mention is that it’s great to see equipment manufacturers like GivEnergy looking well beyond their standard product offerings. Rather than just selling hardware, theyre assessing the industry’s needs and developing innovate product and service extensions to meet those requirements. Everybody benefits 😀👍🏻 Now, I don’t have first-hand experience of GivBack, but I hear good things, and the fact that they’re extending the service from just winter DFS to all-year-round is encouraging. The whole is greater than the sum of all the parts of a distributed VPP 💪 It could be tricky though if you have two external parties trying to manage your battery at the same time though. So I probably would t recommend you use GivBack with any of Octopus’ intelligent tariffs… Hope this answers!