You are confusing two different lines. The IBX would utilize the LIRR Bay Ridge Branch, which is not abandoned and is used for freight. The Queensway project discuss the use of the long-abandoned (since 1962) LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch. These lines are independent of each other, start and terminate in different places.
A 20 mins trip by car to Brooklyn, took me over hour and half by train. It's ridiculous that you have traverse Manhattan in order to go to Brooklyn. There were days that I had to travel in zigzag toward east new york;the 7 to the E and E to the J.That's why I don't take a job in Brooklyn if i don't have a car. Even within queens is difficult to commute
The Queensway Park dose'nt make any sense . Queens is full of parks. But it is under served By Subways in certain areas of Queens. Alot of places in Queens only has Buses the often hit alot of traffic. Or dose'nt run as often. Why can't they have booth. A Small park and. The Queens Link . The Q-11/Q-21 are very unreilable and Q-52/Q-53 are overcrowed even with the Artic Buses and the Exprees Bus that run on Woodheaven Blvd don't run as often and who's paying 6.75 just to ride a Bus.
Along with day-to-day operations, we need to expand the subway because we have way too many areas that don’t have proper transit to get around in this city. We need to have lines that go from The Bronx to Brooklyn without touching Manhattan. Expansion is needed just as much as maintaining what we have and keeping us safe.
The G train isn't the only train that goes from Queens into Brooklyn. The A, M, J and Z trains do as well. The LIRR Jamaica station has trains that go to Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn as well. Another train would be helpful though.
Too many trains already, didn't even know about the green space walkway until recently how are you gonna turn a peace walk into a train line for people who don't wanna drive to BK, Manhattan I get but Brooklyn is still drivable , yea if u don't have a car it might take a few more minutes to get there but whats new
No. There's a section on the map that does need a train line. A M J & Z are going in a different direction. I live on the JM line this new train wouldn't serve my area.
@@kaisofine I live on Fresh Pond & Flushing. The M train is up the block a bit but I haaaate it. I drive to Bushwick ave. and take the L. You're right tho all of NE, Eastern and SE Queens are void of train access.
The G is the only train that doesn't go to Manhattan. And the thing with the G is that it's a vertical line, while the A J and M trains are all horizontal in Queens/Brooklyn(excluding Metropolitain line)
They’re trying to turn Western Queens into Manhattan for all the people who got priced out of there. Another Queens to Brooklyn direct option is better than a bootlegged Highline walkway.
just to keep away confusion, Queensway will convert the Rockway Beach Branch into a Park The IBX will convert the Bay Ridge Branch into either Conventional Rail, LRT, or BRT. separate
@@supermanbatman4992 Because the G line has transfers to both the 7 line and the F line which does both of those things already. Also, adding the G line to go along the 7 line would impact its service. IBX goes through East Queens and would create stations there to give more people access to the Subway.
Bronx erasure again and again. The interborough needs to be extended through Hunts Point and through our countless underserved, high-density but car-dependent communities over here. For this to serve BK-Queens but not BX is impermissible, negligent, even discriminatory. You best believe we’re putting up a fight.
@@apap1586 Nationwide crime is reaching all-time highs in both Democrat and Republican cities. Unless if we address the underlying problems that result in crime, we will never be able to make a step that combats it. Severe economic poverty is one significant contributing factor, since it makes these people desperate for anything that may earn them an extra buck. The plan for MTA is to use their transit lines to catalyze economic growth, including walkable neighborhoods and shopping. It has been shown time and time again that access to reliable transportation is a significant factor in an individual getting out of poverty. Detroit has very little of that, so it is in economic decline (and actually filed for bankruptcy in 2013-2014).
The ideal would be a tunnel over the Hudson River and link the forgotten Staten Island with the ferry port area, a tunnel that leaves from the docks, since the ferries go directly to Manhattan and it is not the purpose of the Interborough Express, the station. terminal could leave next to the port of Staten Island ---since the track of this train practically faces the port of Staten Island
Never been to NYC and am a huge biker and love walking but its obvious this needs to be a railway line. NYC has a HUGE weakness, all its line have to go threw Manhattan and having a line like this that goes around Manhattan is needed, because there should be many more lines like this proposed lines.
Since freight service is sporadic, why not reconfigure the freight trains to use light rail freight trains since parts are readily available and cost is lower? Basically have longer freight trains since the light rail trains have a smaller capacity. If the private companies that operate freight can't be convinced to reconfigure their trains, maybe the state can use imminent domain powers.
G train discontinued the extension in 2000's in queens blvd line. Also, it won't work to extend to Jamaica 179th st, but flushing main st? Just must be joking.
For God's sakes they should have it as a regular rapid Transit Subway rail line that can interconnect with the IND and BMT lines nearby. A glorified bus way or another highline will not serve the transit starved residence in the areas of Brooklyn and Queens that are near the ibx. Use some of the stimulus money that is left over to construct this project that comprises of a metro/subway rail link that is the fastest and efficient way to connect these vital neighborhoods. No bus! No walk away! And for god sakes no more highline. People need transportation to get to work, school visit friends and family, shopping and other items and the Metro rapid transit Subway interconnecting with IND and BMT lines is the best solution here!
Politicians in office now and before have been talking about this and so far it’s nothing but bla bla bla, we’ll make it to mars first before there a train between these two counties but by all means. 😂
We can do both since you know NYC has a lot of Ukrainians and sh*t why should we let a hostile nation invade another for land grab when said defending nation counts on us ?
The existing rail is for freight that needs a locomotive to pull the cars. They need to build an entire infrastructure to make this work, most likely for electric. Also much of that line is only a single rail line so either they have to build another track in most places or a expensive system to make it so trains don’t crash into each other. They have no idea how expensive this is for something few ppl will use like the JFK air train that no one uses and breaks down half the time. They should just buy more extended express buses and charge $5-6 for express transport service from Brooklyn to queens, Bronx out east to LI.
Agreed - freight lines lack a lot of infrastructure that commuter lines would require. Just grading the streets and making the stations accessible would cost a mint. LIRR East Side Access and 2nd Ave Subway each took decades, and now we don't have enough ridership into the City to justify it (that might change if ppl are forced to give up WFH). This makes no sense, since who commutes between Jackson Heights & Flatbush/Bay Ridge?? This would never be anything but a vanity project - most likely it'd just raise the rents near the new "subway to nowhere".
@@mandisaw this makes perfect sense. It's a line in an area that has low access to transit, it fufills a demand that is extremely present, and overall makes the city a lot more connected
@@seanharan9521 There's plenty of transit there - bus, "dollar van", and taxis via major street-arteries & highways. Multiple subway lines as well, you just may need to take a bus to the train station, like in most places in the outer boros. This wouldn't provide any connection to anyplace useful - no one lives in Jackson Heights and needs to commute to Bay Ridge, and at best, a few thousand ppl max live along that proposed route, whereas millions commute to/from Manhattan for work or pleasure daily. The transit system is set up as a hub because that's how the work/residential patterns in the NY Metro are.
@@mandisaw I hope you realize people happen to go places besides for commuting. And besides, people do actually do that commute. That was part of the study they released on why this was needed. NYC is increasingly less centralized on Manhattan, this line is just playing catch-up to demand that has been growing for decades now
@@seanharan9521 Subway service is only justified financially when ridership is consistently in the *millions*. The math isn't even working out right now for traditional to/from-Manh subway & commuter rail ridership, with already-built infrastructure, and at 55-65% of pre-pandemic, that's still like 1.2-1.5M riders *daily*. This proposed line would never see anything like that scale, even in the most generous projections. They could serve the same supposed population with a couple of express bus routes, for orders of magnitude less money. The only advantage to this plan would be to boost up the real estate market along the route, since spots close to a subway station fetch higher asking prices than spots along a bus route. City & State taxpayers aren't here to subsidize real estate developers looking to reinvigorate the heady days of fast-paced Bklyn-Queens gentrification.
Theres no point of new train lines that would take years to complete and probably will have crime just like the rest of them , there doesn't need to be trains every other block just because it's NYC
Nice ideal but it'll take 20 years to complete knowing the city, probably 20X over budget with all the kickbacks. Besides, NYC is a rundown warzone, people are leaving, not coming here unless they're stupid..
Hardly a ghost town lol there's many people literally moving here nyc has 8.8 million people here with a lot more people coming here for school or for work time's square is always packed and lively . I'm guessing you don't interact with people or see the hundreds of people coming here
It would be great however still a problem homeless people, rats, and crime. It also be great to have a train connecting from Bronx to Queens unfortunately not going to happen.
why not just expand the G TRAIN all the way to... CONEY ISLAND 🏝 ♥ 👌 😍 🙌 💙 ...AND EXPAND IT TO I DONT SAY WILETS POINT! 😳🤯 Let's go Mets! Let's go mets! Let's go METS!!!!
Because you can take the N Train to Coney Island? And the N can transfer to the 7 at Queensboro and go to Willets Point? Why would we congest both N/W line AND the 7?
You don’t get it. This was made for the future… when there are no black neighborhoods lmao. This is to make the undesirable neighborhoods more accessible for when the luxury towers get built for the well to do. Save your money now and hopefully you can buy in the future or else youll be blown out by the gentry.
