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So I've had some viewer request to film some of my internal threading, and I had some come up recently that I thought I would share.

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@buddylineman
@buddylineman 10 лет назад
Nice work, I like watching your video's, I can tell you take a lot of pride in your work. I am a journeyman lineman and have a small home shop with a 12x36 lathe and a old Tree milling machine and I make things for the guys at work ( tractor parts lawnmower parts or what ever ) and I often watch video's like your to learn how to do things the right way. Thanks for taking the time to post your video's
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 лет назад
Thanks Buddy! I bet your freinds and co workers like having you as a friend!!
@klmartin1962
@klmartin1962 11 лет назад
I love watching a true professional work. You are an artist with these machines, Adam. Thank you for sharing, and letting us see the quality that these machines can accomplish in the hands of a true artisan.
@danspratt2
@danspratt2 10 лет назад
I'm going to be getting my first small (7x14) lathe soon, and im watching loads of your videos to learn as much as I can. This is great stuff!
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
I normally cut with the compound set to the right. Its what I have done for years and has always given me good results. The text books tell you to set it to the left though. I did it that way for a while, then tried it set to the right and it always worked well. Some may say "your doing it wrong" but it works, and provides good end results. I stick to what works for me. Yes if would have chucked the rod up closer the chatter may have been minimized.
@michedmck
@michedmck 4 года назад
I had a brain fart last week cutting internal threads, and set the top slide over 30° to the right, just like your setup. I only noticed it once I'd finished cutting the thread. What do you know? They came out perfectly! Sometimes doing it "wrong" works out just fine. Thanks for the great videos! Mike from South Africa
@tylercunningham3275
@tylercunningham3275 11 лет назад
There is a round dial with numbers on the right hand side of the carriage. I forget how many #'s but I think most are like 1-8 or some are 1,A,2,B,3,C,4,D. For an even # thread such as one half 12 you can engage at 2,4,6 or 8 odds are the opposite, there is a stationary line on the apron. I hope this makes sense.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Thanks Dan. On even threads you can catch any line on the thread dial. On odd number threads you have to catch every other line, pitches with a 1/2 its only two lines 180 degrees apart, and really odd fractions like 5/8, well you better just catch the same line everytime. Hope that helps, let me know.
@floridawind1
@floridawind1 11 лет назад
Wow Adam, another great video. Your threading skills are second to none, thanks for sharing.
@GusBird
@GusBird 8 лет назад
Enjoyed watching this. I had always thought the purpose of the compound feed was so the leading edge of the 60 degree tool would take the force and make the cut (compound angled to the left for internal, etc.). A few old-timers used say that one final "clean-up" pass (like a .001 or less/same 0 on dial) using just main cross slide will kind of evenly clean/polish the final thread.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Lots of good comments and questions guys. Ill get to everyone shortly.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Hi Lenni. On the piston, I wasnt quite the required depth and new that just a spring pass wouldnt be enough, so I fed in another thou on the dial to take a little more. But it turned out just where I need it. When you do enough of this stuff, you start to get a good feel of what works and what doesnt. Also, sometimes spring passes will start to cause chatter problems.
@Buckrun11
@Buckrun11 10 лет назад
This was a great video. I have been going back through OxTool's videos and started going back through yours. I have a little home shop and trying to learn how to do this kind of stuff. I have never turned inside threads and want to learn. This machining is tough to learn on your own. Expecially when you are an old guy with no training since high school and very little then. But I am having a ball! lol
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 лет назад
Well I hope some of these videos I'm making will help you and others alike. I know its best when someone is there showing you the correct way, but in videos like this I do try and describe as much as I can so people will have a little bit of understanding of the steps it takes. Thanks Buckrun, and good luck with the machine work!!
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Yes chuck, reading a dial clock to zero is easy "for me" to see the zero point then watching the digital readout. The thread pitch was 12, so I can hit any number on the dial. Even numbers makes that easy. I've always practiced setting the compound to the right side, but the "technically correct" way of doing an internal is having the compound swung to the left side. Its always worked good for me, and anyone can do it there own way.
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis 7 лет назад
Dude! You are an excellent instructor! Thanks for the video.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
I was threading at 300 RPM, the standard for me. When I slowed down I went to 110 rpm. The first pass or two I normally take .020 on the compound, then back off with each remaining pass.
@raycurren3639
@raycurren3639 10 лет назад
Hi atom, Great vids. you seem to love your work. I'm trying to learn also. My father in law gave me a south bend lathe and a Bridgeport mill this summer. Everything I know is from u-tube. I find it relaxing. I bought a tig welder also. Wow is that hard! But thank god for guys like you and oxtool and Keith fenner.. Keep them coming.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
I rarely feed the cross slide in past my zero point when cutting 60 degree threads. Some people like doing it because they say it cleans up the entire thread. I do that sometimes when i'm "chasing" a bad thread and want to clean them up because of galling. But normal thread cutting, its not required. But like I said, you do what works best for you.
@MINDSEYE153
@MINDSEYE153 11 лет назад
Thanks again Adam, and thanks to the higher ups for letting you film at work. We are the beneficiaries yet again! Paul
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
You didnt strike a nerve. I made this video because of viewer requests. All good man. Thanks Lawrence.
@not2fast4u2c
@not2fast4u2c 11 лет назад
Good camera shots I like seeing the big stuff done It really lets you see the detail That threaded test plug you made would make a Nice paper weight for the desk Maybe a future video on who has the biggest threaded test plug
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
I understand already how to cut an internal thread in reverse, no explanation needed, and I would tread lightly talking about us Americans and our "fun work". Guys like myself work hard for a living to provide for my family, and I'm sure many others here can agree with me. I don't know about the machine work your speaking of, but I can tell you MY work doesn't get recycled, it goes into USE!
@marcusjenkins
@marcusjenkins 11 лет назад
Slick just isn't the word. Being a amateur I cut threads with the lathe turning at about 100rpm or less - and still fret about disengaging the cut at just the right moment. At your rpm and no relief at the end of the thread, wow.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Yes I do use the thread chasing dial. When using a 4-jaw chuck, you have to indicate the part true with an indicator. I use a 1' dial indicator mounted on a Noga holder. Indicating is a must learn job for machinists. I show it a few times in some of my other videos.
@w056007568
@w056007568 11 лет назад
Experts always make things look easy!! I think that you are rather too modest about what you do, but I think that there is rather more to this task than meets the eye. How do you know precisely when to engage the tool travel so that its always cutting exactly the same thread? Love the cheery smile at the end :-)
@1954BJohn
@1954BJohn 11 лет назад
You made the process look alot easier than it is Adam - Thanks for the videos
@StinkyDog1971
@StinkyDog1971 6 лет назад
Ever thought about using a Left hand thread tool and thread away from the head stock with the chuck now turning clockwise? It provides one with way more time to disengage the nuts and greatly reducing the risk a tool collision? I just learned it and it rocks.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Another good video idea Mark. I've had a fair share of left hand threading in my job shop.
@reideichner8597
@reideichner8597 11 лет назад
Good camera angle showing you work the lathe. You can tell you have been doing this a while! Thanks for the video, Adam. Reid
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Thanks Tom. Actually I've had the Ikea light for a couple years now from a past trip to Atlanta. They had both styles, one with a clip and one with a base. I went with the clip light thinking it would be a little more versatile. But I recently broke it by dropping a damn tool block in the clamp, so now its just laying there. We're going back to Senoia next weekend and my wife and sister are heading to Ikea also. I'm having her pick me up one or three more! LOL! Next one will be Doubleboost style
@paltryengineer
@paltryengineer 11 лет назад
Outstanding Adam, ive cut threads myself and as im sure anyone else who has will appreciate the speed you smashed them out at, really good work. Ive always run a lower RPM than that you had it really going on the first pass, or perhaps the camera speed was decieving, looked faster than 300 to me. Great vid
@ryannavarre4161
@ryannavarre4161 4 года назад
The shot with you on the controls is very helpful.
@phill903
@phill903 11 лет назад
Nice job! Adam, never knew how to cut inside thread before. Thanks for sharing your skills :)
@michaelrodriguez-fb8fr
@michaelrodriguez-fb8fr 11 лет назад
Hey Adam you make it look so easy! never cut an internal before but I'd like to try it out . So I'm waiting to see what you got up your sleeve for Tom or what you got under that magic work bench..
@electromechanicalstuff2602
@electromechanicalstuff2602 3 года назад
Oh man throw back Thursday.
@rchopp
@rchopp 11 лет назад
Nice job, that is on my list of to do items cut an internal thread you make it look easy.
@twitchyourwhiskers
@twitchyourwhiskers 7 лет назад
Hi Adam, Nice video, I like the way you are so relaxed when you disengage and slide in.
@guyward5137
@guyward5137 7 лет назад
Always enjoy your videos. Abom. At the beginning of the video you had a look on your face and didn't sound like you wasn't your usual happy good mood. Hopefully its all good. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and time. GW
@ShuffleSk8Ter
@ShuffleSk8Ter 11 лет назад
Hello Adam, sorry man I did not mean to strike a nerve ...but I am glad you showed this as there are newer learning hobby people who should know how to do it correctly ...good videos again sorry if said something to cause a ruckus
@billdlv
@billdlv 11 лет назад
Great vid quick draw Adam! Thanks for sharing it. I'd be interested in seeing you cut half or full dovetail o-ring grooves. Not sure if you do those often.
@viscache1
@viscache1 3 года назад
Cool video! Well edited. I’ve always thought lathe threading was something between witchcraft and magic...you know...with levers, noise, oil and buttons!
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Dont know what to tell you if you dont have a threading dial. Ive never done it without one. Thanks Keld!
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 11 лет назад
Hey Adam, Nice threading demo. I see you got yourself one of those doubleboost lights from Ikea. Ohh I just noticed that fan you guys have at work. I think I'm feeling puny again. Best, Tom
@Newmachinist
@Newmachinist 11 лет назад
Hey Quick Draw I would have made a big mess of the threads if I was doing it at half the speed you did. I'm impressed!
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Thanks Gill! Hope some of my hands on teaching has helped you out on the Monarch 10EE!
@keldsor
@keldsor 11 лет назад
Thx - that's exactly what I was looking for - really nice job ! You inspires me to find out to do it on my STANKO 1A616 - a old russian made monster from 1962 without any thread dial - argh !
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
You'll have to let me know what a dovetail o-ring groove is. I dont quite understand. But I do machine o-ring grooves often.
@george330ful
@george330ful 11 лет назад
Good job Adam thanks for sharing !
@qzwqsy
@qzwqsy Месяц назад
Very nice Adam
@laurentcnc6662
@laurentcnc6662 11 лет назад
Great video Adam. Thanks for sharing
@therealspixycat
@therealspixycat 7 лет назад
Hi Adam. I have seen many video's by you and I really enjoy them. You take the time to show the whole process in real time which makes it very interesting. You are also explaining your thoughts which makes it I think a lot more interesting to understand where you are comming from and where you are heading to. Question: it seems a very simple question but can you show us how you determine the height of the cutter? I guess it must be dead on so that the DRO is dead on? I have never seen you adjusing the height of the Multifix so may be you can show us how you attack that. My guess is is that it ainn't that easy: nothing is very easy in the whole process of working with the lathe. Thanks!
@sverreeriksen1982
@sverreeriksen1982 9 месяцев назад
hi Abom, I thought the compond should be turned to the left when internal threading?? Am i right? thanks so much for impressing lath work, learned much from you. Mvh sverre eriksen, Trondheim , Norway
@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc
@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc 11 лет назад
Yesterday I cut my first internal thread, I came upstairs turned on the computer and what were you doing? An internal thread! Mine was a 28X1mm thread, a little smaller than yours! Thanks for the video! Regards, Matthew
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 11 лет назад
Hi Adam..err Quick Draw Nice action, I have a couple of questions Is the reason you set the dial indicator for the Quick Draw because it is easier to catch rather than trying see the number coming on the DRO? It appeared that you did not need to look at a thread dial to start your engagement, maybe just could see it in our view? Same question below about R/L of compound, thought internal had to swing left When do you sometimes need to feed with the crossfeed near last cut instead of the compound
@jbfa9875
@jbfa9875 9 лет назад
Nice video, you make it look very easy
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
I might have a couple tricks left to pull outa the bag. You'll just have to keep waiting to see. :)
@MrEtorres323
@MrEtorres323 9 лет назад
Excellent!! Keep up the good work
@bufford14
@bufford14 11 лет назад
Another good teaching video. I was wondering if you ever use left hand threads on any of your machining. Can you make left hand threaded bolts? Thanks young man for this video.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks Matthew
@standard1engineering710
@standard1engineering710 3 года назад
Nice work bro
@TheTacktishion
@TheTacktishion 8 лет назад
Good Video.... After you turned the internal threads on the piston, did you turn an arbor or some sort of fixture to screw the piston on so that it would shoulder up, How was the piston OD and groove machined....?
@the_rad_Panda
@the_rad_Panda 11 лет назад
Hey Adam! Once again nice work! On the last work piece i noticed, that you did not take a spring pass - you fed it in just a tiny bit. Is there a particular reason why you fed it in more, rather than taking a spring cut? Sorry for my bad spelling - I'm German. Keep up the good work mate! :)
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Dont sound much easier to me! LOL, you'll need to machine a thread relief inside the bore of you want to cut it that way....the blind thread anyways. The lathe in the video doesnt have a cross slide stop.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
LOL, I dont know. We'll just let it flow naturally. Some of the viewers have taken those videos the wrong way.
@billyb4223
@billyb4223 8 лет назад
Cool video, your work looks cool too. I'm only just starting to use a lathe and screw cutting/thread cutting is something I really want to get the hang of. Thanks :)
@kooldoozer
@kooldoozer 11 лет назад
Love your channel Adam. --Doozer
@unchained_0177
@unchained_0177 9 лет назад
thank you for your videos
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
I am Proud To Be An American too Dave! I wont tolerate comments from people like him. Theres no reason to be disrespectfull on here so I blocked him from my channel.
@thomaskincer2315
@thomaskincer2315 8 лет назад
swinging that compound the other way and feeding into the cut probably would have cured all that chatter and rough finish.
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Thank you very much! :)
@gangesexcavating
@gangesexcavating 11 лет назад
True professional.
@presicionturning5672
@presicionturning5672 2 года назад
I thought the compound needed to be rotated to the other side for internal threading
@GK1918
@GK1918 10 лет назад
I'm just surprized that most do not use a thread stop, all our lathes have them, its just one more thing you dont have to worry about.
@carrollprice1213
@carrollprice1213 11 месяцев назад
For inexperienced operators like myself part of the dial confusion is caused by experienced operators referring to "lines" on the dial without saying whether they're talking about numbered or un-numbered lines. Example; "close the half nut on any line." Does that mean any line without a number or any line with or without a number, or does it matter?
@davedigs
@davedigs 11 лет назад
Hi Adam great video i notice your compound was swung 29.5 degrees to the right some people swing it to the left does it make any difference apart from being closer to the chuck
@hosseinhayati9820
@hosseinhayati9820 5 лет назад
Well done as allways :)
@krazziee2000
@krazziee2000 11 лет назад
Nice work, thanks for the video
@b2dmastersniper
@b2dmastersniper 10 лет назад
Hey Adam sorry if you have already replied to the question, this comment system is confusing. - I couldn't see but are you watching a threading dial before you start feeding? You were working so fast it looked like you were just engaging the feed. Thanks for the awesome videos, slowly working my way through them all.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 лет назад
I do watch it by habit on all threads, but with a 12 pitch you can engage the half nuts in any location on the thread dial. I plan on making another video with a little more detail on this subject, and talk about the thread dial and cutting the different thread pitches.
@alexclifton4922
@alexclifton4922 11 лет назад
Damn fine work!
@mecanicodejetski
@mecanicodejetski 7 лет назад
Thanks for this video, i have a south bend 13 and are looking to build a filter canister, thank`s
@dwightcarlson7136
@dwightcarlson7136 3 года назад
Does your material pass thru the Chuck? I. E. the work seems to be hanging out quite far...????
@keldsor
@keldsor 11 лет назад
It was a Little hard to see IF YOU USED it - but I noticed that your lathe HAS one - I think with 8 digits - right ? I'll look for some guides to do threading on mine WITHOUT the dial - I think it can be done by reversing WITHOUT dis-engaging the half nut and then forward Again - but I try in the near future.
@connoreverly8496
@connoreverly8496 3 года назад
Hey Adam, do you have a method for determining a starting point of depth of cut on internal threads before you start checking with a gauge? Is the depth of thread same for internal as external? Say you did an equation .75/TPI. Thanks 👍
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
Wasn't on my cell phone. Guess you were seeing things.
@robofreak17
@robofreak17 10 лет назад
nice work!
@RobTheAIGuy
@RobTheAIGuy 8 лет назад
what are some indications your tool is wearing too much/time to replace tool bit? what will your threads/crests look like?
@ralphbarnwell3109
@ralphbarnwell3109 10 лет назад
I find the thread cutting fascinating. But, not being a machinist, I can't figure out how the bar knows just where to index back to, and when to cut again. Could you explain this some day?
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 лет назад
Ralph, I have shown thread cutting a few times in videos now, but I cant say I've explained the entire process. I will see what I can do to show it more in depth in a future video.
@ralphbarnwell3109
@ralphbarnwell3109 10 лет назад
Abom79 Thanks Adam. Your videos, and you are a refreshing new addition to RU-vid. You have a way of making folks feel at home on your site.... thank you for that!!
@bx2200
@bx2200 10 лет назад
When you do threading, either internal or external, using the snap-tap inserts, do you use the partial profile or the full profile inserts? Thanks.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 лет назад
I believe they are partial profile inserts. I have a couple sizes and I think off hand they are 16NRAG60, and 22NRN60.
@erikdevaney4781
@erikdevaney4781 7 лет назад
does your test rod plug actually have another test plug in it? looking at the end of the plug looks like a dip i the end that has threading to it
@vimecalexandre4019
@vimecalexandre4019 9 лет назад
I see that you disengage the handle that activates the car to make the thread, and time to return you return manually, as the tool is the center of the thread again? that is, it should not return the tool removing and inverting the rotation? without disabling the handle? I am studying your videos, to learn the methods used in the US ... I will realize my dream to work one day al !!! thank you! God be with you !!!
@lyntonr6188
@lyntonr6188 9 лет назад
Vimec Alexandre with lathes fitted with a threading dial it is possible to disengage the half nuts( the auto feed travel ) and then re engage them in the same position , with out having to stop the machine and reverse it back to the start , there are plenty of good videos explaining the use of a threading dial on youtube to help you understand how they work .
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
No its a Birmingham 1660.
@user-nd1sx6bi2q
@user-nd1sx6bi2q 9 лет назад
I want to know how do you return the carriage by your hand I can't do it with my machine could you learn me please . my machine return out magically magically when I reverse the chuck moment
@hilfskreuzer-3365
@hilfskreuzer-3365 8 лет назад
question would you set the compound for external threading to 29 degrees from 90 or 29 from 0? because my professor at school gave me a big speech once because i set 29 from 0 he said that was wrong he said 29 degrees from 90 was right so i'm confused
@aj9270
@aj9270 11 лет назад
Ah ok must be what Jet copied all the control and speed levers look very close from what i could see of them that's why i asked... Thanks for another cool video Adam !
@Abom79
@Abom79 11 лет назад
See my response to Outsidescrewball. Thanks Tim.
@joohop
@joohop 11 лет назад
beautifull work mate i need help with my disk
@pramodranjannayak2475
@pramodranjannayak2475 7 лет назад
Thank u so much for this vedio...... Nice
@tonymendez731
@tonymendez731 3 года назад
Im a begenner machinist can you give me a correct computation of inch thread and metric thread deep of cut.thank you.
@austin3538
@austin3538 11 лет назад
nice work
@holder350
@holder350 9 лет назад
Question, When internal threading I see some people put their compound 30* to the left, It looks like yours is 30* to the right. As I understand the process to shouldn't matter which way its setup, as long as its actually at 30* and not 29* Does it really matter?
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 лет назад
+Joshua Holder I think that was an early video where I didn't swing the compound around. Truth is both ways will get the jobs done. Swinging the compound to the left when doing internal threading is the correct way though.
@muhaahaloa941
@muhaahaloa941 8 лет назад
Was just going to ask this but understand now,What Adam is saying it will just cut on the other site of the flank maybe D..Don't know but a threading tool is just a form tool any ways you could set it at 90 deg and use the crosslide but people do it Very different ways.
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 8 лет назад
hes more or less doing a radial infeed, not modified flank infeed. in english, he has enough power to not worry about imparting stress on both sides of the bit while threading.. on a smaller machine, ud have to reverse the compound.
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 7 лет назад
Jcreek201 id have to go back and look , but he surely has some chatter
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 7 лет назад
Straight infeed throws a large burr.
@dwightcarlson7136
@dwightcarlson7136 3 года назад
Isn't it economical to have a chrome shop repair that rod?
@jerkmcgerkin
@jerkmcgerkin 9 лет назад
Wish my 80 year old lathes had brakes that worked that nice! Waste of time waiting for a spindle to stop.
@jerkmcgerkin
@jerkmcgerkin 9 лет назад
That's the current method!
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