Customs were designed to be cheaper, hence why JD made the 4000. I've seen 2 "customs". I tell ya, the '06, '56 and '66 series were the best. They had the power, the weight, and just plain solid. I still miss my old '706 gasser today. Cheers :)
so let me get this straight, ih made a custom tractor with LESS options? Isn't the point of a custom line up to have MORE? Like, custom seat, custom steering wheel, custom gauge cluster and what not?
@@necrothescistt8164 The term 'Custom' has often meant a lower trim/option level. For examples: Custom was the base trim name on 1971-74 Chevrolet trucks, followed by Custom Deluxe as the base trim name 1975-87. Also on Buick cars of the 1980s and 90s, Custom was the lower trim level to Limited the higher (although admittedly, in the late 1960s and early 70s, Custom was Buick's higher trim). I'm sure there are more examples but those are two that come to mind.
That's a nice 756 you got there. Our first tractor was a 656 and I remember it being unique because it sat lower to the ground than the regular 56 series. Then we got a 1974 966 in 1987 and it was a real game changer for us. My uncle had a 806 and I might be wrong here, but I always thought the 56 Series was right in between the 06 Series and the 66 Series.
Okay. No blasting me here please but when I was a kid we had a 656 Hydro with the 282 diesel. I swear that had the "Custom 656" badge. It was a chore tractor for years and pressed into loader tractor duty when we sold our 460 High Utility. The 656 was wide front, dual hydraulic, 3 point. Deluxe or "flat top" fenders with 4 lights. And 540 only pto. Rear tires were not 18.4. 16.9-38 if memory serves. Time to hit Moms old photo albums to see if I can find a picture. Man, I cut a lot of hay and loaded a lot of loads of manure with the 656. Thanks FF. Keep the content coming.
A family member of ours bought a new John Deere 4000 back in the day...it was a diesel, with Powershift! Well then the 1980s recession hit him hard and he had to sell it to a neighbor man...The neighbor still has it..
Looking forward to seeing the IH Custom & you pointing out the differences on the tractor itself. Yep, the rare models or limited production models are the big ticket items in the "Collector's World".
Update on my first reply! The serial number plate will be F756D CU because they only came with a Diesel engine. You are right they only built 737 and the 756 custom was only built one year 1969. The 856 were built in 1969 (3650) & 1970 (26) total built 3676 I have put together a list of the things that were different on the 756 & 856 custom tractors. My first reply might have been deleted because I put my email address on it.
there were 2 kinds of higher hp tractor owners the ones who turns up the HP in the pump and drinks fuel by the barrel and the smart ones who put a turbo kit on it and adds propane injection . a large 656 user who had a fleet of 50 of them gained 15hp and actually used less fuel per hour at full load plowing the engine life was about 10,000hrs between in frame overhauls
They always failed to include the propane in the fuel consumption, and propane wasn't cheap. I saw a resurgence of propane in the early 2000's... and once again people were not including the propane in the alleged fuel savings.
John Deere 4000s could be optioned up. They too had two headlights, battery trays instead of boxes. The synchro range didn't have synchronizers and the final drive used a lot of 4010 parts. You could order a power shift transmission. The 2510/2520 fill the gap for the 3020. It used a 3020 chassis and 2020 engine making around 55hp. One of the selling points John Deere used on the 4000 was you could use 3020 or 4010 sized equipment at a faster speed. 4010 diesels had a smaller engine originally than the 4020 but everyone I knew that had one put 404 sleeves and pistons in at overhaul and than worked them even harder. We had two 4010 diesels.
Dad farmed with a wheatland 806, but he would have preferred the farmall version because of the steering setup on the farmall was a better design, than the wheatland steering setup. The wheatland also had a hand clutch, and every time I would engage the clutch, especially when drilling wheat, my rows would not be straight!! I think I was ten when I ran that tractor. Miss those days!!
Since there were only 700ish Custom models, they were likely built so dealers had one on the lot as the low price attraction 'loss leader' and then the dealer would work on the farmers to get them into the regular full-featured model, "I could sell you that cheap tractor and you'll be back here next year looking to trade it in on the deluxe model, so why don't we put you in the deluxe model right now?"
Good day FF Up here we have alot of on-line auctions. This week toy 400 with white loader, it was at 8-10$ I did bid but up too 22, I t is a spec cast, Thanjs
You are on the money with the information they also didn't have the battery covers. You can add a second remote easy enough. Yeah I am right there with you on the why on the no frills version of the Farmall. Hope it works out for you on the diesel custom.
Went to his retirement auction, he had painted the 856 motor and transmission black,sheet metal and rear wheels IH red.Sold a little on the high side,probably a collector purchased it. It was a high hour machine.
I have a '55 400D w/ 2 pt. Hitch... My Dad's... She's been through hell damn near 'er all her life.. I.E. cracked block... engine transplant... then pulling "Stump's" in island pond VT....
That would’ve been like the Oliver 1750 and 1850 special tin wheels no speedometer they didn’t paint the grill and wheels clover white they where like a greenish color they didn’t have as many options as a regular tractor
We had a 756 farmall no tilt steering , two remotes , no hydraulic seat , big fuel tank and four headlights and 18.4 x 34 tires and the tag said f 756.
@@FarmallFanatic Didn't find anything on the lights or seat. But was like you said an economy model so sure things where cut. Two variants IH756 was classified as a utility chassis and the 756 Custom was classified a Economy Model.
It's my understanding that the JD 4000 was rushed into production due to the end of the 4020 production despite strong demand for them. IH's like all brands had good models and bad models but look at it this way.....I pity the guy who right now owns a Belarus.
Had a neighbor who owned a Belarus, he just Baled hay with it, he loved it. I know other people who bought them, had major issues with them from the beginning. You couldn't give me one.
Hello I think when they started making tractors with less features the tractor makers where just screwing customers. In turn in the long run giving themselves a bad name. Still goes on today. Have a good day
I have a 856D custom, got it in 2016. When I was young, my dad put me on the 806D pulling a 560 plow with 6-14's. Dad always told me to run it at full throttle when the plow was in the ground, which was around 2500 rpm under load. Loved hearing that engine sing at 2500 all day long. We also have JD, and their engines don't seem as happy at high rpm, at least not to my ears. Some Deere fan will probably blast me for saying that, but that's okay. The good thing about having red and green tractors in the shed and around the farm is that it looks like Christmas all year long!
We had a few 856s here 2 of each and the Customs also got the Nickname of Taco Tractors since they were the only model sold to Mexico. The "Custom" models were not as fully equipped as the "Farmall" designated models; therefore, they were sold at a lower price. Custom models had fenders. One headlight in the fenders. No rear work light, only a red taillight and amber flashing light. Not equipped with ether starting aid. Mounting step and grab handle on left side only. One auxiliary hydraulic valve with two simple connectors on the rear (no check valves or breakaway connectors). No sheet metal hydraulic valve coverings in front of or in back of the seat. No full coverage battery covers. Never had hydraulic adjustable seat or tilt steering wheel. Three-point hitch or two-point fast hitch (whichever dealer ordered). Two speed PTO and TA were usually standard equipment on Customs; however, they could have been ordered without (as any Farmall model could have been). Clamp type rear wheels (no wedge locks). Commonly equipped with 9.5L-15 front tires and 16.9-34 rears, however one could have other size tires depending on dealer order. If you see a "Custom" model with anything more than the "bare bones" equipment listed above, someone added it at a later date.
@@matth9849 Correct, I believe the 1486 was also included in that list. Very easy to spot one when you know what options they had as they were all late model and 4 post rops tractors. I use to be able to remember the exact options on them but I've since forgotten still very nice looking tractors although many got sent to their graves in the south as they were cheap horsepower.
the JD 4000 was a 3020 with a 4020 engine and was made for high hp PTO work. when farmers pulled ground loads a 4020 was made to pull with a 4000 you got a exploded differentaul which when they fail the trans axle case gets shattered. i saw this happen when i worked for a JD dealer in 74. it happens faster if the hp was turned up above 110hp. if you bought a 4000 use it to pull the 3020 plow or disk a gear ot two faster.. think taking a 460d and putting a 806 engine in it
That's similar to the AC guys that cranked up their 190XT's and tried to pull equipment meant for the D21. The final drives couldn't take it. But if they did what you said, pull the equipment it was meant to pull, but pull it a gear faster, then everything worked out ok.
I can remember our neighbor in Northern Butler county getting a 4000 along about 19 73 or 4 and what a big deal it was It was a canopy tractor no cab. I was somewhat disappointed years down the road when I found out all that thing was was a strip down and I was not aware that international had ever done the same with the 756 it makes sense but I never knew that and I am much more of a red paint historian than I ever was a green paint yesterday and having been raised on and cut my teeth on the steering wheels of ac&m and an h, the m which I have been running all day on the manure spreader today. We had a law in there for about 50 or 60 years that we didn't bring anything new on the place and then when we did it was a brand new McCormick in 2007. I did have a 66 series for a while but I never have heard about the 756 very interesting videos thank you
Yeah fanatic we really like it. It is about 32-3300 hours on it now and we just put a water pump on it and a new right front seal and really in all those hours that's all it's ever had done. Change the hydraulic Felder every year or change oil every $200 and we really like it it's a good machine starts good runs good and it's been relatively trouble free until now and I expect it's going to go right back to work. Ours has cab heating air four-wheel drive. We like it it is basically a case ihcx90 and I'd buy another in a minute in a good reliable tractor has a four cylinder turbocharged Perkins on it
756 and 856 customs have the same fuel tank as the 756 you have. Not completely sure anymore I believe the air filter are different. 737 756 customs were built.
This video is showing a comparison between a International Farmall and a International Custom, both International on the "big" labels. So then, what is the differences between a International and a Farmall, both "big" labels?
@@FarmallFanatic mine has that German diesel. The pump Governor is not right and it sputters . Hard to find used pump!! Had it worked on and r helped some but not right!! Don’t use for much , but handy to have around. I farm so have larger rigs !!
Speaking of rare tractors...has anyone seen a 1026 gas,hydro,with a fast hitch. I've only seen one. It was in 1995 in southwest Wisconsin on a steer farm. They were using it to clean the steer lots , they had a fast hitch blade on it.
@@andyisastronomical4452 nope, I saw it, and drove it. I worked for a guy that did custom shit pumping back then and we were on his farm for about a week, and I drove it a few times that week, we used it to wrap and unwrap hose. I knew it had to be rare because it was gas.
You mentioned "this Custom that I'm gonna go look at does have the German 310 in it." Weren't all Customs diesels? Or were they available as gasoline (or propane?) also like the regular models? If they were, I guess those would be the rarest, but I thought they were diesel only.
@@FarmallFanatic Sure, I understand that. Your statement in the video just made me wonder, I didn't know for sure. Since you agree, we'll say it must be true! Thanks
Custom does not necessarily mean it's not a Farmall. The main differences between the Farmall and the standard tread is the front axle is fixed and swept back and the headlights are in the grille, as well as the fenders. Cabs are the same on both. Both International and Farmall models had that option on the later tractors. But the Serial plate should read either F-756 CU or I- 756 CU.
It's funny because I would think the word Custom means customized and therefore fancier with more options 😂 I'd like to find something like a 460 utility too.
I have a 756 custom with 12000 hrs. And a 856 custom with 22000 hrs. Both are terrific tractors, never had a complaint about the differences. The 756 has the standard fuel tank the 856 has the smaller 32 gal tank.
I believe the Custom were only built as diesels and only had a wide frontn axle. I believe that I IH used the most requested options (diesel engine and wide front axle) and built a large batch of them as way of keeping costs down. Regarding "odd ball" tractors being worth more than "normal" tractors, there are a lot of collectors who buy ttractors for their rarity value (think Farmall 504 Diesel High Crop)) and others who are buying a classic tractor their usefulness (Think Farmall 766 Diesel)
I came close to buying a 856 custom one time I would not put a loader on that 756 gas. I had a loader on my 1066 pick up sticks and now I need front end work about $1500 not cool but what did I do sold my loader for $2500 boom . can't wait for the next video
I have a 706 with a 263 gas engine, TA, and a '56 series shift, and it looks pretty similar to your 756. We have had that tractor since 1971 and it has served us well over the years.
HAVING 2 DIFFERENT SIZE FUEL TANKS ADDS TO THE END PRICE! THEY SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON THE LARGE TANK ONLY! IN REGARDS TO THE ETHER PRIMER SYSTEM A TRACTOR IN WARMER SOUTHERN STATES MAY NEVER NEED THAT OPTION ANY WAY!
I never liked the transmissions on these tractors ---they required patience! But we worked A 766,986and1066 liked rented mules for 20 years with few repairs.
I would send you the lists on the different things not on the customs if I knew how. There is 14 different things on a 756 customs and 17 different things on a 856 customs.
@@FarmallFanatic I will gladly share If there is a way to send it to you without retyping everything. There is two pages which excludes some part numbers, etc one page for the 756 & one for the 856.
I bought a 560 last summer. It was my dad’s cousin’s tractor. Dad does not know what year it was made. What is the best way to research the serial number?
There is an app called tractor guide, just put in your tractors info and it gives you the year, there is also a website that gives a little more, unsure of the name but maybe I can add a link if I can figure it out
My uncle bought 2 new 706's a few years apart and they were different. The first one I believe a 66 had a 282 diesel with a glow plug, shell fenders and small front tires. The 68 had a 310 diesel flat top fenders and 10 hundred front tires. Why did they change production??
Excellent video Farmall Fanitic :) never new 2 types to shock me too also wild for sure and be looking forward more videos on Auction too! Also my late Dad 1968 International 624 A had 206 Cubic Inches 4 cylinder Desiel motor 60 hp and had no T/A option on transmission it was option to buy extra $ ! But owner manual show it and explained how work too on paper work! But in 1987 he bought a second owner of a International 724B 1978 model 265 Cubic Inches size 4 cylinder motor 72 hp Desiel motor with Loader on it had T/A (Torque Amplifier) on transmission plus had motor rebuilt also new clutch in transmission! In 1993 funny part 624 get motor rebuilt and clutch never replaced ever still had lots meat pressure plate but got replaced anyways ! After that 724 Motor need rebuilt again also found first time rebuilt was done like crap head and block need replain right plus crack in-between 2&3 cylinder in middle bad too so get new better block and clutch as bump and shift gears plus ranges to horrible to! Found clutch plate was worn out almost and bearings too and pedal out adjustment bad ! So orgnail guy owners said was all perfect for next 40 plus years and was BS also mechanic did job to both tractors he said T/A this type 724 tractors are not like Farmall ones T/A better built use too and different too! But Mechanic fix tractors right and he those 2 tractors still rocking on home farm I grew and motors purring like new also 724 never had clutch pedal problems ever or gears change too new owners on farm told ! But we thing that orgnail owners hard on clutch pedal and rough on tractor to ! I know when I use 624 like no problem and 724 jumping bad when on using them back years till rebuilt motors plus clutch problems solved too! But thought let know that Farmall Fanitic and others ! Also 724 International did say in Owners Manual about T/A was option to most tractors sold had them ! But 824 had them on T/A feature because 80 plus hp !
@@donvoll2580 that what motor was 1978 724 International Desiel had in one my dad bought used in 1988 loader tractor type and how found was check on my late Dad stuff on tractor information log ! That what he wrote out all about 724 plus all rest tractors had plus combine also stuff ! Was interesting read on !
