Interview with a GNU/Linux user - Partition 1 

omg i was dying from that

@@lilrex2015 "This pen is a webserver"

In particular, because CAN - on Android, with Termux, on iOS, with iSH...

@@ninoivanov .... yeah.... we can see why you're single and alone

@@lilrex2015 No, I'm simply not some uneducated random bum. 🙃

🤣🤣🤣🤣. Waching this on Arch linux. While my sound does function, I fear to put my machine into sleep because it could never wake up

How do you know someone uses arch? They tell you

@@automata_pi aren't we all?

Writing this from Gentoo, haven't got any luck getting the speakers to work, headphones work fine. Send help

@@owoled282 Are you doing a custom kernel or a genkernel/distribution kernel? Are you running Gentoo on a desktop or a laptop? Do you know your audio card?

I fear they won't survive being drafted into the vim/neovim war

@@frank8627-v8k Compilers, musl, busybox etc. a lot of these things exist to replace a lot of what GNU does

alpineOS, does not use any of the GNU core utils

@@inedholp1565 knew i was wrong after i posted but forgot to edit lol.

Artix is a systemd-less Arch with a custom installer. You're thinking of Alpine.

@@lithiumwyvern_ never got around to editing my post but yeah i knew i was wrong, cuz i watched the GNU vs Alpine meme again

That's why I only use Devuan, Alpine, and Slack. And BSD if available.

OpenRC would like a word

deep cuts

Runit supremacy

@@davidwuhrer6704 Führer

I think it's more that corporations have benefitted hugely from it in the tech field specifically, so they haven't lobbied to make it impossible/impractical like in most other areas.

@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs They have, actually. But they didn't succeed. UEFI bootloader signing, a clever way for Lenovo to install an undeleteable Trojan horse on their laptops (alongside Intel's own Trusted Processing Module in the CPU itself), was designed to make installing anything other than Windows and Mac OS impossible. But too much of the industry depends on unpaid free software, mostly Minix (for the Intel TPM), but also Debian and, in the case of the US military and the NSA, RedHat Linux. So they had to allow that, leaving only Lenovo with any advantage from UEFI. A more striking example of how much the industry depends on free/libre software is OpenSSL, which encrypts practically all web traffic, including web Banking and inter-bank commerce. It is maintained by two hobbyists in their spare time. Linux hosts 90% of all services on the internet, from mail servers to web servers to SaaS like Google Drive, Azure, and AWS. The remaining 10% are FreeBSD. Linux also drives practically a of robotics. And of course Linux achieved world dominance fast with the smartphone market, which eclipses the desktop market. Today, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to the Linux kernel in lines of code. Their WindowsPhone can now run Android apps, and their desktop OS can run some docker images. Linux is just a small part of the free software movement. MacOS X is built almost exclusively from free software, from the L4 microkernel to the BSD userland to the web browser engine forked from KDE's KHTML, built with the free/libre open source LLVM compiler (that Microsoft is also using for Visual Studio). The network stack in Microsoft Windows is a fork of the NetBSD stack, and the implementation of the SMB protocol (network neighbourhood, domain controllers, shared printers, etc) has been replaced with the open source implementation because their proprietary one had become unmaintainable. They also migrated their code repository from their discontinued own product to git.

@@davidwuhrer6704 Windows phone? Have you been living under a rock?

@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs Also unlike most professions programmers will work then come home and do open source. Is a different breed.

@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs sure sure, it's evil corporatyions' fault that free stuff is almost never good)) My country 70 years lived under soviet regime where lots of things were "free" and there were no corporations. The result? Well, here's old anecdote: "What doesn't fit in your ass and doesn't buzz? Soviet-made ass-buzzer".

Run a distro from your usb stick and find out if it would work out for you before switching :)

@@tomatopotato4229 Better: if you have a spare PC that consumes very little power, install some Linux on it and use that PC for some daily tasks (like web-browsing, emails, etc.) while keeping the other PC for games, or the tasks that you haven't figured out how to perform on Linux (yet). Slowly but surely, you will start enjoying how Linux doesn't bother you with pesky notifications, ads for other software or services, very long updates that require rebooting the machine, etc. That's how I migrated to Linux from Windows. I'm using Fedora with GNOME and a couple extensions (dash-to-dock is a must-have for me), but you can start with something like Ubuntu or Pop_OS.

I use a RaspberryPi as my desktop.

You are using Linux already, you just don't know it. Android is Linux. Most consumer electronics run Linux, including routers, television sets, and cars. Google runs under Linux. That includes RU-vid. Microsoft Azure runs under Mariner-CSL, a Linux distro. Wikipedia uses Ubuntu, another Linux distro. AWS runs under Linux.

@@davidwuhrer6704 Hold up. Android is Linux ? I mean, I do hate my android phone to the point I want to throw it out of the window, although that might be because it's a cheap xiaomi. Don't discourage me, man.

As a raspberry pi user I know this to be true

Talks of ricing Ubuntu. Use Gentoo before you talk about ricing or spending time to customise your computer as a hobby. Ubuntu doesn't even make it easy to customise your package dependencies. You install it, it runs, end of story. You'd spend more time setting up a Windows machine. Out of the box, Windows doesn't even recognise any printers. Not to mention the two days of running the installer where Ubuntu only takes half an hour and has an office suite, photo editing, programming environment, and on-line manual pre-installed. With WINE you can even run Windows apps that Windows doesn't run anymore. And faster than Windows would on the same hardware.

Yeah, I recently tried running Ubuntu on the laptop I use for university and honestly it was just a pain. Eventually Linux will be better than Windows (hopefully), but as it is right now, I have no reason to use Linux over Windows. Windows 11 doesn't crash, it boots fast (and it would probably boot faster on Linux, but do I care about a few seconds? No) and everything just works. Also no way am I switching to Linux when running an Nvidia GPU.

@@lycanthoss Eventually was seven years ago.

@@davidwuhrer6704 not for most people

@@lycanthoss I had to use Windows on a university laptop that has originally Ubuntu on it, for a project. That was in 2007. The irony was that the Windows-specific tools required tools and toolchains ported to Windows from Linux (via Cygnus) So I had to use software written for Linux in Windows on a laptop that had a Linux on it. It was painful. Everything made assumptions about the underlying system that were not always correct. And Windows was many times slower doing the same things as Linux. I was glad when I could switch back to the much easier to use Linux. Only recently did I have to use Windows again, for work, to ensure software compatibility. It is still many times slower to respond, it is still clunky to use, and everything still makes assumptions that are not always correct, and this time it's the Windows tools themselves that do that. Windows just gets in the way of work. Linux is a breeze to work with.

I have to watch this video and its sequel at least once a month.

Sounds sus

thousands of commands (3 words or none at all if you use the gui).

@@thelakeman2538 One word is usually enough. Even in the GUI it is more convenient to just summon the command by typing.

Yeah, typing "pacman -Syu" is far slower than going onto 35 websites to download an update, execute and press "next" 250 times....

Google calendar is in your browser. Updating your programs(All of them at the same time) is: win/options key => type "update" => press the update button if there are updates => type in your password => You're done. This is true for my Manjaro and Fedora machines. If this is hard for you then Linux was never the right choice. And Windows and Mac probably aren't either.

Arch user detected.

And then there are folks like me who got tired of seeing Windows take up about 3GB RAM out of 12GB on _startup_ . Debian, on the other hand, only takes up about 1.3! :)

Not if it's new and not different in any meaningful way though.

@@rtr0spct210 Why not?

(taking notes) "new AND BETTER." Always forget that second part.

@@rtr0spct210 Ehh, often the protest is more towards how something's managed nore than anything else.

Being unable to run valorant is arguably the bigger win

it's a real linux distribution, but if you want the strangly hardcore linux teen pop star themed operating system experience, you want rebecca black os; the original testing ground for wayland.

As a Linux user, I am saddened that my paunch is smaller than his

Not really accurate.

not that much, ubuntu ain't only for beginners, if something will work, ubuntu usually can handle it, it's quite close to windows except it works better

@@frank8627-v8k It's intentionally inaccurate, this is the main trope of this genre. It exaggerates and caricatures reality, that's why it's funny.

@@frank8627-v8k lmao not lucky, it’s not hard to avoid the trash, just use the tech it’s good, ignore the communities as all communities become toxic at some point

HAHAHA

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eatIzqwB2dA.html Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life. (John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

eww proprietary music

the fortnite guy

and his confused face... lol

"it's the hardware vendor's fault for not writing a good driver" why can't linux just have a windows driver translation layer

@@zkdr6278 i'm assuming there's a good reason. If it was as simple as that then there's no way someone wouldn't have done it already.

linux does have a translator for windows xp drivers, only network drivers tho

its called ndiswrapper btw

​@@gabe_dunn you're right, I looked into it and apparently it's garbage. It makes sense, since drivers are (i assume, usually) very low level for performance reasons and needing to talk to the bare metal. I'm wondering how long it would take to write a driver for most essential equipment.

wait really? 😶

That's awesome! I loved that program as a little kid. Thanks!

Haha I remember spending many hours in my youth (at around 5-7 years old) messing with Tux Paint. Thanks for those memories!

Legend

thx

Red Hat vs Microsoft

r/stallmanwasright

Arch is my favorite distro by far. I use it everyday but Mac at work. Mac's fine too

I use arch btw

I used arch as a daily driver for 1.5 years when I needed Linux for work…. My coworkers couldn’t use my computer hahaha

And me btw!

Btw, I use Arch, btw.

I mean, nowadays PowerShell scripts can also run on Linux, so not quite the best example there

@@stefanalecu9532 The joke is that the powershell script maker is saying their scripts won't run on linux when it won't run anywhere because it was broken from the starrt

PowerShell scripts run in Linux, but nobody runs them there because Linux already has a simpler way for running shell scripts. PowerShell scripts don't run in Windows because they don't have permission. (VB macros in your word docs run fine in Outlook though.)

Someone tried to submit a bug report to Microsoft over trouble with Powershell scripts on Linux. Microsoft rejected it, on the grounds that it had to remain bug-for-bug compatible with the Windows version.

@@davidwuhrer6704 Set-ExecutionPolicy Bypass is your friend. Yeah it's quite dumb, they tried doing it more secure but failed miserably. Like if the whole system is already insecure what's the point? And I actually used PoSh a lot for sysadmin tasks, it has great capabilities, but it is some sort of mix between a wannabe-shell and an OOP-lang, it can get confusing.

Haha, indeed.

😂😂😂

we should start calling it GNU/systemd/Linux

Depends on the distro LMDE 6.0 for example runs great

Not like windows, its full of bugs yes but windows is on a different level of bugs

@@liforra yes Windows concept of "safty because people can't see bugs" is a really bad concept

I'm constantly configuring it's a lifestyle with Linux.

I use clang, BTW.

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Ive heard of mansplaining, but what is womansplaining? (Sheez, even my autocorrect recognized the former, but not the latter)

@@mr-boo imagine a man mansplaining but a woman is doing it instead

I recently got a cold reseption to the Alpine community, so I think I'll stick with GNU. I was trying out different distros in an attempt to rive my Powerbook G4 as a useable laptop again (in 2019 I was still able to use Ubuntu 16.04 + Firefox to stream youtube) I saw alpine had Firefox esr ported to PowerPC, but when I tried it from a live cd it failed to launch. So I asked on the subreddit and got chewed out about how I "shouldn't use a web browser on some thing meant for a server", so I just put Debian 11 on the Powerbook and have been in the process of building dependencies from source (some aren't in the repos and some are for the wrong 32bit powepc endian). I recently saw a video where someone with an older g3 mac with less ram got a modern browser working under openbsd, so I might try that over Alpine again.

My 2nd ROFL after "dancing in the GNU light"

sudo pacman -S apache sudo systemctl enable httpd

@@johnbruhling8018 Arch user detected WARNING!, ARCH user detected!

@@phantomofnyx Couldn't be. They didn't explicitly say they used arch (btw).

@@GSBarlev Oh wait he didn't brag, you're completely right, must be someone who uses pacman on ubuntu, can't possibly be anything else ^_^ Or wait he could be from the new generation of steamdeck users who evilly ruined the arch experience by pre installing it and hiding it from their users invalidating the true arch users hard work! (Cough)

@@phantomofnyx As a Steam Deck user who has been getting a masochist thrill out of setting up compiler toolchains exclusively in userspace, I can't tell how much of your reply is humorous. 🤣

lol

actually, it should be /dev/sda1 or /dev/nvmen0p1 (or something like that, idk)

@@kommentator1157 /dev/nvme0n1p1

@@kommentator1157 sda is used for usbs, hddd, ssds which are not nvme, nvme0p1 is used for nvme ssds

@@andrejbartulin I know. I just wasn't sure how nvme ssds are named. Thankfully I don't have to touch that too often.

The vim-vim wars is hilarious too

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eatIzqwB2dA.html Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life. (John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

He actually Wants to help you, unlike Microsoft and Apple fanboys.

Nothing wrong with windows at all

@@MrSurfsAlot yeah do somethi- *BSOD!!!!*

Funny, this is so incorrect

same

This is normal and rfc conform, your body is caching energy for debug compile cycles.

Same I was skinny no joke. Now I also have a beard. I'm morphing into the GNUman species.

i started using GNU/Linux on a PC with a Nvidia card... so it's pretty accurate