Into The Lair #38 - Instrument Levels in a Mix

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Dave Pensado explains how he treats the relative level of instruments in a mix to bring out certain emotions or styles for the listener in the 38th Into The Lair segment from Pensado's Place.
Note: The examples are in mono to better hear the level changes between instruments.
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@TheRealestIdealist 8 лет назад

I love the dialogue and how he walks us through his thought process. I'm actually learning A LOT more just by simply taking note of what questions he asks himself.

@brianconnolly8246 10 лет назад

"this girl is 16 years old, shes australian, she comes from the land of AC\DC, let's give her some credibility".. how could you not like this dude

@brettcopeland_music 10 лет назад

"low-end is just the most wonderful thing on earth" ...couldn't agree more!

@Richard_P_James 12 лет назад

Excellent, and a privilege to watch a real mix pro explain his thought/feel process. Inspired? Always after watching these!

@samuelmccartt9166 9 лет назад

Dave Pensado you are not only the man you are my Fucking Hero. Thank You. I've learnt more about mixing in the past 2 weeks since I discovered 'Into The Lair' than I did in 4 whole years of studying Music Production at University!!!

@LesterBrunt 11 лет назад

You are really my favorite youtube engineer. You make it seem possible, sometimes I watch clips of the big guys and I just think "man I could never do this, I can never afford all that gear and will never have the experience he has" but you make it seem so easy and not too complicated. Really inspirational!

@ArthurStone 12 лет назад

Yay Dave! Thank you. Hearing you discuss & adjust the levels in the context of the whole mix is of great value...the track is quality too, really nice energy and clarity...something to aspire to. Thanks to you and your team for your hard work in making this available.

@Unhacker 9 лет назад

Thanks again Dave, great insight to be gained from this and the whole ITL series.

@frankhoward4485 6 лет назад

You know, I'm very new to your channel, Mr. Pensado. I've watched several of your Vs so far and enjoyed (got something out of) each of them. Actually, this might be the most informative. It isn't about plugins, routing, or anything particularly technical ... it's more about how you approach turning good music into great music using your God-given creative taste. This was a superb V. Liked it and learned a lot. Thanks, man.

@jayschell3841 11 лет назад

I appreciate you sharing your expertise, I'm an AXE man learning how to track and mix my material, you have helped me immensely, THANKS for doing what you do Dave !!!

@independentsaint 10 лет назад

Dave, I am so glad I found you! I watched a couple of your videos this evening and found them all inspiring, but this one is so sincere and true. It resonated with me so much that I am subscribing to your channel right away. One needs to recognise the pearls from shite in rare occasions when they are thrown out at all of us...:) Respect!

@techsquirrel 9 лет назад

Great session even in mono. My ears were getting the same things as you were describing.

@mkreple 10 лет назад

The only saving grace of this video besides DP and his child-like enthusiasm is that lava lamp. As soon as I heard those horribly programmed drums(alesis sr-16ish) and that Amplitube v.1 guitar tone I couldn't take my eyes off it. Up and down it went. Important video though and each one I watch I pick up another little nugget that keeps me coming back for more... kinda like golf! Thanks Obi-Wan!!!!!!!!

@kolorbrown 9 лет назад

I though I was the only one mesmerized by the Lava Lamp;)

@margaretstewart3255 10 лет назад

Great tut. Feel I'm listening along with you to hear what you are hearing....great teaching pace.

@CloneyMaloney 8 лет назад

Great video as always, Dave! I definitely noticed that taking a break from mixing and letting my ears refresh helps tons. I also do the thing where I leave the room while my mix is playing :) hearing it from a different perspective aids me. Love your videos.

@adamdrumgiles 9 лет назад

Love it, this clip was great, so nice to see it done in relative real time.

@darkskinwhite 5 лет назад

you fixed the guitars but what was bothering me was really that synth. honestly probably more as a producer, I would either tuck that thing way in there or just completely scrap it if necessary. good work, thanks Dave, love ya, you're the best thing to happen to youtube since 2005

@mrflynn01 9 лет назад

Dave I love the song! Your doing an amazing job, keep the videos coming!

@JesseBroman 9 лет назад

Dave, you are an unbelievable audio engineer. You're also hilarious... fading the effects up and down, saying "I scared myself". I burst out laughing. Thanks for all the lessons.

@EPTROUBADOUR1 11 лет назад

What an honest open sharing of your wonderful talents. Thank you so much for opening my mind about mastering! Thank you, thank you, thank you. You caused me to actually understand some of the things I hear when attempting to mix and master.

@Beethovan 8 лет назад

Thanks Dave. Excellent video on mixing. I am watching this from India.

@anyb4672 8 лет назад

hey bro 1 more frm india bhopal

@ttoz 8 лет назад

I appreciate having Dave P. go through these examples... I think on this particular song... not sure what it is... The guitars seem mired in some short slap back funk that makes them seem like a pad as opposed to a rhythm guitar part. But I have found that a bass really does become the 'rest of the guitar sound' on most songs. Depends on what is played and the relationship between the guitar/ bass. The arrangement is key. But always fun to watch Dave go through his analysis

@555crix 8 лет назад

"For real, Hip Hop made everything better when it came along"..you nailed it Dave :)

@AudioMasterRTrib 6 лет назад

Your amazing Dave. I enjoy your wisdom. Thanks for share!

@nikobobich9726 8 лет назад

thanks dave your the best.. ill be meeting you at the expo next month looking forward to it

@joeyxl3456 11 лет назад

Great stuff Dave. Thank you so much for these.

@MasterKnutA 10 лет назад

Impressive work! Learned a lot and gave me a new perspective on volume! Keep it up Dave :)

@politicsequalsgarbag 9 лет назад

Instant Subscriber. Dave, while I don't listen to this type of music anymore I can't tell you how valuable this information is and can't thank you enough. I'm flooding tracks with too much low end and high end and because of this I think it's fuzzing everything out in the middle and it gives a muddy far away tone that's pretty dull. Percussion is usually a horrible mess as well. Thanks much, Dave and I'll be watching more vids. Peace.

@TheRobGuard 7 лет назад

Very nice video on levels!

@benthemiester 12 лет назад

The last one sounded good to me. Unfortunately we have company right now so I cant crank up the Precision 8's the way I should but, I'll listen again later when everyone has gone home.

@mcprice40 12 лет назад

Thanks Dave..this is great! I'd love to see more about the ratio between the kick, snare and high hats.

@DannyPolDiaz 11 лет назад

Were you using auxiliary tracks or VCAs? Probably a stupid question since I have a feeling it was all aux, but I want to be sure. I have everything going to it's own bus as needed now, and doing this seems very helpful, so I might just do volume changes on the buses after the main automation. so many options! and my gf just keeps saying "when are you going to be done?! You need to finish this week!" omg!! lol

@TheGurner1 11 лет назад

These are great tuts, thanks Dave

@hallal55 10 лет назад

catchy song lol

@SkyAvila983 12 лет назад

Inspiration as always in your videos Dave! Great input and nice ideas...mixing with auxes (group tracks in Cubase) is great way to have control of the mixes...Thanx big time!

@trattramo 11 лет назад

i like your irregular loop. is it a tool, a pattern of yours? just seems like a good way to avoid the comfort zone. Not being rethorical, just sucking it in. mono rules.

@unstablereaper 11 лет назад

Dave killer tutorial, but why in mono?

@museman19 11 лет назад

before they blow. What you get is a higher damping factor so they wont blow because something like a loud bass drum wont produce square wave as soon as a 60/100w amp would. More headroom.

@theweakneed 9 лет назад

Hey Dave, now perhaps I haven't found it yet but I have watched a plethora of ITL vids and still find myself searching. I know this may be out of your day to day but I would LOVE some thoughts on mixing "Orchestrations" I have been engineering / mixing for 23 years now and have recently been getting more 'scoring' gigs. 90% of what I do is in the box and sometimes augmented with session players depending on the clients budget. I have found it rather challenging to get things set in place properly and would genuinely appreciate some thoughts on this. This piece here, I've had some challenges with. soundcloud.com/theweakneed/sets/cinematic-orchestral Peace and blessings. Sean.

@gruz1234 9 лет назад

I too have the op to mix orchestra but had the op to record, on many occassions, and would go through the recordings with conductor, much info gained here and mic placement was a big plus as orchestras prefer no ampflication,

@hermantoribio7257 8 лет назад

I love this guy

@One_Call_System 11 лет назад

Nice videos. You are a great service.

@tutrlespam 9 лет назад

what is the name of the song? im loving the vibes

@HandyFox333 9 лет назад

That ad was way too long to not have a skip button.

@jarrydee2799 9 лет назад

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@PlutoTracks 9 лет назад

jarry Deee Yea, and then you pretty much get to damage RU-vid in the process. -_-

@TheMusicman95382 9 лет назад

PlutøTracks. Ohh a little ad money missing will never destroy a CIA operated program. Theyll just tax us higher to pay for it.

@PlutoTracks 9 лет назад

TheMusicman95382 Your little conspiracy is cute n all, but not really relevant to what I was talking about. If they lose profits, and lose advertisers, they will see no use in the site. Also, there's some pretty talented and creative uploaders I feel deserve support.

@TheMusicman95382 9 лет назад

What conspiracy? And just as there are creative up-loaders, there are creative programmers as well. They get rid of all the annoying things. Its the same annoying stuff that destroyed cable TV.

@sadisticchiwawa8612 6 лет назад

GREAT JOB

@stevenwhittaker3778 10 лет назад

Wicked, Dave.

@ThomasLinnaneMusic 10 лет назад

Dave is known to mix at a hotter volume than normal because he records most of the instruments, allowing him to have more control and knowledge on what he can push in the tracking and mixing process. For me personally, I actually set every instrument to a default -6 as my loudest volume, and try and build a mix around that. This insures that I will not run into any peaking issues even when I hit my highest points in the chorus. I also think it allows me enough headroom and ability to make the necessary adjustments and pushes with certain instruments without hesitation of fighting my limiting meter around the -0.1 db range. This is a strategy that for me has worked well. If you guys try it out, let me know what you think!

@fraukapitaen7 7 лет назад

Nice demo video, thanks! Great, that smile when the levels were set :D P.S.: Did you also mix the live rehearsal version of that song? ~ Michael @Frau_Kapitaen

@RickyMackie 8 лет назад

Thought this was Avril Lavigne

@rockboy360 7 лет назад

Ricky Kendall she sounds like her for sure

@brokeniphone9698 7 лет назад

me too!

@hdhuga6980 9 лет назад

Great video

@petefaders 11 лет назад

ahh this vid is in mono??

@SteveStockmalMusic 6 лет назад

“... I think you’re feeling it too”

@byronjeromecrenshaw2852 3 года назад

you are the Bob Ross of mixing

@rajkamaljangir3618 4 года назад

Everything is in the middle, that's the right way, not to low not to high

@choicezz9861 9 лет назад

i am going to start mixing like this from now on. with emotion and how it sounds to me! only thing would have made this video better if he turned off the monitor and just used faders to be more into the mixing, just my opinion!

@EternityRecordsUSA 10 лет назад

this guy is such a good guy. Great advice and really appreciated. I agree he should be working on better music.

@sirrjones424 9 лет назад

How much you charge to mix?

@SNAPS90291 4 года назад

GOOD DAY I HAVE A QUESTION HOW DO YOU COLOR THE LETTERING IN THE INPUT AND OUTPUT OF BUSES ? THANKS

@wilsoncj 11 лет назад

Amazing tutorial.

@BlazeMoneyGangTv 8 лет назад

what kind of monitors are those?

@TyrKohout 11 лет назад

There is way too much going on in the 4k range with the drums, Dave.

@jstnbieber853 8 лет назад

Can I get the name of the song....????????

@leobluesy 9 лет назад

Brilliant

@11714chaz 10 лет назад

awesome!!!

@CuchiBeatz 10 лет назад

Wt program was he using?

@PhiladelphiaDon 10 лет назад

It Looks Like ProTools ;)

@Zicky1506 9 лет назад

Dave, how do I know how loud my audio should be from Vocals to Instruments?

@Zicky1506 9 лет назад

Also do you always use hardware with plug-ins when you mix?

@latino21able 12 лет назад

whats the name of this song

@ProToolsAvidSchool 10 лет назад

I also want to know which song is this!

@crax83 10 лет назад

Christina Parie - 16 & Unstoppable

@ProToolsAvidSchool 10 лет назад

crax83 Thanks Mannn!!!

@MrCrux 11 лет назад

Yamaha NS-10's I believe.

@JamesTaylorjunebeats64 11 лет назад

Nice man, thank you.

@LeoAr37 12 лет назад

I love how he exaggerates all the faders to listen for the difference as we do xD.

@cherub21078 12 лет назад

Its good to see how hard its going to be for me to train my ears to hear the subtle nuances that completely change the feel of a song, oh joy...lol. Gotta luv being a new producer, sigh.

@JazzMac36251 9 лет назад

Those guitars sound weird to me. Almost like there are phase issues. Am I missing something?

@KQY614 9 лет назад

JazzMac36251 They actually seem mostly normal on my headset. Just the frequency seems high and in the song nothing has bass

@TheSneetch 9 лет назад

+JazzMac36251 I think the main problem is that the audio from the video is in mono. It says it in the intro screen photo if you watch close, in the bottom right reads (in mono - sorry!). It drove me crazy too, but the info is good, and I actually check my levels in mono pretty frequently to see how it will sound on non-stereo sources.

@adamlee2550 6 лет назад

First let's listen to the drums... Now let's add the music. Damn.

@trajan9101 9 лет назад

Dave is good, the mix he got is distorting levels are too high fatiguing the ears. It's the way the artist record their instruments got Dave working hard to fix it in the mix.

@mutsaertsmusic 9 лет назад

"there is an urban element in everything"

@protoolsfanatic7276 9 лет назад

.NICE JOB.LISTENING THRU SHURE SRH750 DJ HEADPHONES.

@Cambaudio 9 лет назад

HD800's here :)

@leelindesanders4478 9 лет назад

protools fanatic ath-m50xs on this end

@ShadowPilot 6 лет назад

7:34 belongs on a T-Shirt

@davejohnsonmusic 10 лет назад

If you want it to groove more, then the drum track needs to be re-written. I could program in BFD2 with a keyboard and it would groove better. I don't like the track, sounds rushed... she is only 16 so it is what it is. I do like to watch Dave's vids though. Seems like a cool guy and it's always interesting to see how the Pro's operate. Keep 'em comin'

@BugsyBalone 10 лет назад

sounds just like AC/DC ...

@DaveChips 10 лет назад

ramy ho think that he was being sarcastic

@Hexspa 8 лет назад

The Mr. Rodgers of mix engineering.

@Miltersen Год назад

Rewatching this after 10 years. Still great content. Dave is the man.

@mutsaertsmusic 9 лет назад

"low end is the most wonderful thing on earth" :)

@TheRealHucasys 8 лет назад

+Henk-Jan Mutsaerts That he has right.

@dudebrodude4388 7 лет назад

I agree, I'm an ass man myself

@Ben59910 4 года назад

@@dudebrodude4388 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GGye1pK2ysQ.html

@garnetbey7400 8 лет назад

1 of the best engineers/Producers in the bizz its an honor to receive these lessons,we must all under an overstand the blessings we have for the internet today, to reecive this type of valuable lesson, is priceless, thanks pensado,s place.

@allenau8379 8 лет назад

Shut up

@ganelwalker719 7 лет назад

Good stuff!!!!...Learning a lot about mixing watching your videos!!!!!..Thanks!

@reflectionofgod777 7 лет назад

Garnet Bey Peace Moor! So true.

@joellouisfire 9 лет назад

As always, my hat's off to you. Great mix, even in mono! :D

@FreddysFrets 11 лет назад

You will never be a succesfull engineer with that attitude. There's nothing wrong with this song. The performances are good, the band is tight, the basic tracks are well recorded and produced. Put your personal bias aside.

@TheSlightlys 10 лет назад

WOW! I'm Sixteen and pursuing a career in music. I'm a songwriter and a frontman in a band and I'm learning all I can about mixing and producing myself. these videos, are so awesome. thank you thank you thank you so much for making them!!!

@anasamin8227 4 года назад

The Slightlys this is finneas!!!!!

@poopitypoop6559 4 года назад

Hi Finneas lol it's so cool to see how much you learned from these videos. I am in the process of doing the same !

@jtpinnyc 10 лет назад

Mixing in mono is essential but damn is it depressing....

@jimijaam2591 9 лет назад

it's good to train your ears to work in stereo as well . just IMAGINE mono doesn't exist and force yourself to learn both Mono and Stereo mixing/mastering . the reason is that using stereo mastering plugins or FM sounding VST/RTAS/AAX instruments needs to be dealt with in the stereo spectrum, since all the frequencies are coming out the speaker at a wider range. Real Time mixing.. real time mastering is essential no matter what.. switching stereo to MONO speakers you're gonna hear at least 1 or 2 instruments jumping out in your face. but your ears can get use to setting the levels near perfection in stereo . if you work in Mono only .. its not gonna help much once you switch back to the stereo buss sound, because its an entirely different thing that requires you to work in Stereo on the fly

@jarrydee2799 9 лет назад

jimi jaam mono should really only be used for checking phase issues. I know people say they like to PAN in mono, but im not one of them...

@seagers_studio 9 лет назад

jtpinnyc that first listen back after hitting stereo is worth it though :)

@lumpyfishgravy 10 лет назад

Would have liked to hear something about the Keys. They're doing something interesting, would have liked to hear 1-2dB more just to see how it worked (or didn't).

@terrybartak7811 9 лет назад

Thank you Dave.I'm trying to learn. I like the way you follow your feelings and impressions. From that, I learned the most.

@fleshtonegolem 10 лет назад

Fantastic illustration of how much 2db can either ruin or bloom a mix! The last album I mixed came down to 4 fader moves of less than a db and suddenly everything was fitting in your ears like it should be. It's great to see this from an outsiders perspective. When you have investment in a mix it's a bit harder to be objective because the mind knows it so well already.

@dablizzoduve4576 6 лет назад

Jesse Gunn plz can u send me more tips on this...I see u know wat u are doing..I wana get better at balancing... tnx in advance.. dablizz75@gmail.com

@Pi2Music 10 лет назад

Dave Pensado, Thank you!!!!! In this video you made that comment about "we'll let you know." Lead me to comment. Im a hip-hop artist/ Producer. I have no label or anything enjoy making music. Your videos has transformed my mixing and mastering to heights I would never be able to reach. As I mix songs I often run to your videos and reference techniques. haha. But I wonder if you get enough good feed back. If not. Thank you so much your videos are world changing in the music realm. ps The awards was really good.

@eduardoduran6169 9 лет назад

a lot of you will hate this song but won't make a hit record yourself..heres the thing i love pensado work.. but half of ya here are untalented people trying to get a mixtape going on and guess what you will never make it so quit hating ..

@PlutoTracks 9 лет назад

Eduardo Duran Do you really think your response is any better ?

@ChaseJeffry 9 лет назад

I learnt a lot from some time I spent with a cool engineer Raz Klinghoffer... Was really worth the time...

@InXLsisDeo 8 лет назад

Proof that even renowned mixer like Pensado have to work on shit songs.

@SuperfedzPal 7 лет назад

This isn't my type of music, but I think it has a pretty good vocal melody.

@OllytheOl 7 лет назад

That's the thing about music. I bet the stuff you love there are millions of people who think it's shit, like you think this is. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and thank god for that.

@TerenceKearns 6 лет назад

Like Branford Marcelos once said, "there is good music, and there is SHIT". No way to explain away that this song is shit. It just is. It's not subjective. It's shit.

@guidosc3470 6 лет назад

I bet this song is better than 99.9% of the shit you guys do lol xD I liked it

@cornbobrimlove7892 8 лет назад

........can't make apple butter out of horse shit.........

@NeverOctober_ 8 лет назад

more bass sounded better too much kick

@samuelbrown2679 8 лет назад

You're definitely an expert. I'll listen to your advice. Thanks

@NyakzOTSD 8 лет назад

loooooool

@OleVinny 8 лет назад

I love this step in the mixing process. After all the plugins and tweaking and what not you just put it down to four/five faders, sit back and FEEL. Amazingly inspirational video. Thanks for everything!

@rileyreid1030 8 лет назад

Am I missing something? Why so many dislikes? Great job Dave

@philsackett7341 10 лет назад

"Oh, hey guys, it's Michael Brauer. I have awesome people texting me all day and you don't." Haha! Cool video Dave. I have been wrestling with this kind of thing in my mixes lately and your advice helps.