LOlL, I missed this too... however, one thing I liked about the movie (there weren't many aside from the princes) was that one prince was a good guy. He stuck with Rapunzel and they rode off to safety together.
Cutting this from the movie along with Rapunzel going insane and eventually getting killed, ends up making her prince look like the Disney traditional prince who just gives her a happy ending. Which really goes against the original point they were making.
Sorry I didn't mean to spoil the play for you I just assumed everyone watching this had seen the original play. Her death is sad in the play, she really lives a horrible tragic life.
It makes me sad that they left this song out, but when it comes to film, you have to be very mindful of time. When it comes to movie goers and theater goers, they are two very different audiences. Theater goers can and will sit through a 4 hour show, however with film, you're lucky if you can keep the audience entertained for 2 and a half hours. So, although I'm sad that they cut the song, and cut part of Rapunzel's story, it all boils down to time, and picking out the most important plot points and choosing which stories you really want to focus on.
This was desperately needed in the film. Now I know it exists - it makes perfect sense! I did wonder why Rapunzel got the happy ending... she obviously didn't in original! But also, this shows how horrible the Princes are... we really needed this!!!
I know, I didn't really get why rapunzel went off into the woods and we never saw her again, even if they changed the story a little from the musical, I would have liked to have seen what happened when the giant came. Did she get killed? Or did she have two kids like they did in the musical. Ah well, all we can do is wonder x by the way love your videos xx
As someone who didn't see the musical before the film, I too think they should have put this reprise in. It's was so vital to show how they were absolute douches, especially as context to when Cinderella's prince tries to get with the baker's wife which, at the time, I didn't really get.
+Sara Samaletdin you obviously didn't understand the play very well than. Act 1's theme is "HAPPILY EVER AFTER :DDDD" and Act 2's theme is "not really, lol." The princes not truly loving their princesses reflected that theme. Even after Rapunzel dies a gruesome death, he just hops over to Snow White right after like nothing. The princes in the story were written to love the idea of chasing a women more than the idea of keeping one, Rapunzel and her Prince weren't supposed to just have a peachy keen happy flawless life together, it takes away from one of the biggest themes.
Pink Ladies Play and film do not need to be the same to be both great. I do not think you understand adaptions, they do not need to be copies of the original if they work great on their own which the film did, the film benefited from the contrast for the princes and not being as dark with story when there was less humor overall.
In the movie theater, the "Agony" part prompted the most laughs, especially the shirt ripping and leather pants. It's a shame the reprise was cut, but even so the movie was amazing. {sideways smile}
Play video [CINDERELLA'S PRINCE High in a tower- Like yours was, but higher- A beauty asleep. All round the tower A thicket of briar A hundred feet deep. Agony! No frustration mor keen, When the one thing you want Is a thing that you've not even seen. RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE I found a casket Entirely of glass- No, it's unbreakable. Inside- don't ask it- A maiden, alas, Just as unwakable- BOTH What unmistakable agony! Is the way always barred? RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE She has skin white as snow- CINDERELLA'S PRINCE Did you learn her name? RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE No, There's a dwarf standing guard. BOTH Agony! Such that Princes must weep! Always in thrall most To anything almost, Or something asleep. CINDERELLA'S PRINCE If it were not for the thicket- RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE A thicket's no trick. Is it thick? CINDERELLA'S PRINCE It's the thickest. RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE The quickest Is pick it Apart with a stick- CINDERELLA'S PRINCE yes, but even one prick- It's my thing about blood. RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE Well, it's sick! CINDERELLA'S PRINCE It's no sicker Than you thing with dwarves. RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE Dwarfs. CINDERELLA'S PRINCE Dwarfs... RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE Dwarfs are every upsetting. BOTH Not forgetting The tasks unacheivable, Mountains unscalable- If it's conceivable But unavailable, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh- Agony! CINDERELLA'S PRINCE Misery! BOTH Not to know what you miss. CINDERELLA'S PRINCE While they lie there for years- RAPUNZEL'S PRINCE And you cry on their biers- BOTH What unbearable bliss! Agony That can cut like a knife! Ah, well, back to my wife...
Okay, so I have to share my Into the Woods Story somewhere... So, day 1 during auditions, I didn't think I was going to make it... I had never had to audition before for anything (since I was always just cast in Drama class after auditioning, so I was guaranteed a spot no matter what) so I was so nervous I was shaking as I was filling out my paperwork. This was about three months ago, and I had just graduated. I go in, and I audition for the Wolf. Casting people and directors laughed hysterically at my Wolf audition and I got a callback. I go into the call back and there's a guy there who literally looked exactly like a shorter and broader version of me (or I looked like a taller/longer version of him... whatever you want to call it). They bring us both in at the same time to read some lines. We both looked at each other like we knew EXACTLY what was going on, and we did, because he looked at me and said "They're totally going to have us read the princes dude...". Yep... they did. Next morning, I woke up, looked online, and we were both cast (he was Rapunzel's Prince, I was Cinderella's Prince and the Wolf). Flash forward to two months from then, we're both on stage preforming this. Opening night was awful... since Agony and Agony (reprise) sound so similar, one of us always got something mixed up, but nothing anyone who hadn't watched the play over and over would've noticed. Next two nights were good, but we went a little too fast... none of the lyrics were messed up but again, we went to fast. Finally, during our last performance, the one they were recording none the less, we get both songs perfect, and when it came to the end of this song, we were both overwhelmed with joy. So overwhelmed that I decided I would do something I had never done on stage or in rehearsals... when Rapunzel screamed, I drew my sword and went into almost a complete split and shook my entire body (and plastic sword) like that I had seen a ghost... Rapunzel's prince put his hand on his face slowly which he always did during this part, but this time, I could see that under his hand, he was absolutely about to die laughing... then, he decides to do something he never practiced either... he lets out a giant "UUUUUUUNNNNNGGGGGGHHH" noise before saying "...Rapunzel" and then I thought I almost burst into laughter (I'm sure I'm making a somewhat odd face in the video trying not to die laughing). Now, I will say, after that, that was the loudest clapping I've ever heard during our production... I don't know if it was the sword being drawn, the fact that we were relaxed in the song, our "leaping" onto and off of stage, or Rapunzel's prince's noise, but either way, it was totally worth it.
HAHAHAHA!!!!! i wish i could've seen that! This song (while the reprise maintains an air of crumminess from the fact that the princes are cheating-or trying to-on their wives; though i can almost understand Rapunzel's prince, seeing as she went crazy) is one of my favorites from Into the Woods and (guess what) so is 'Hello Little Girl' by none other than the wolf! i REALLY wish that i could've been in the audience, that sounds hysterical!
The Princes are my absolute favorite characters in this play... x'DDD "It's no sicker than your thing with dwarves!" ):< "Dwarfs!" O:< "Dwarfs." |: "Dwarfs are very upsetting!" D:
I really like the staging of 'Agony' in the film, but the act II reprise is one of my favourite Sondheim lyrics. Cutting it does rather lose the plot - but then thinking what the screenplay did to the narrator I suppose anything goes.
I can understand Rapunzels prince. Yes, he is a prick for cheating, but having to deal with someone who was locked in a tower for 14 years in a time without psychologists must be hell. Cinderella's prince is just bored or something
Now if you think the princes are jerks now, then your going to love what Cinderella's prince does to Sleeping Beauty/ Aurora. In some versions when he see's her, instead of waking her up with a kiss, he "sleeps" with her several times. Then he eventually wakes her up. I have a feeling that if the musical had more time, they would have had that version.
Well, the gag is kind of that "Prince Charming" is more of a romantic ideal than anything else. Their whole purpose is to ride in and rescue the girl from her predicament so the story can have a happy place to end. It's all they're really good at. So, it makes sense that they'd always want what they can't have if that's their purpose.
i'm still so sad that this was cut from the movie. i've read a lot of comments that agony is one of the best scenes, so think how great the reprise would have been with chris pine! i've also read that the second half was too dark, so this probably would have made a lot of reviewers happier with it. just saying . . . .
Off-screen characters. It's just to show that once the princes have gotten what they want, they immediately want something else. The one in the tower is a variant of "The Sleeping Beauty", perhaps closest to "Little Briar-Rose" from the Brothers Grimm. The one in the glass casket is Snow White.
After seeing the movie first (I know, I know lol but it's true) I really wanted to see a stage performance. Obviously, there were differences. But I do feel removing song and Repunzle's storyline was a mistake. I think it diminishes the meaning/theme of the musical. I feel the movie just made the princes womanizing butt-heads and not "Unhappy husbands regretting settling down." I acknowledge those things seem like they are the same but the princes are not just bouncing from woman to woman, they tried to settle down and thought they would be happy but aren't now. Fantizising and then resolving "ah well, back to my wife" is something I think many many people can relate to.
I wish they could of got this in the movie. I know it's a long musical so they had to cut it down. I felt it lost some parts of what's so great about it, but I would of loved getting to see Chris Pine and the other prince sing the reprise and everyone realizes they're both a couple of sleezebags. Haha I really would of just loved an Agony reprise, because the film did such a good job with Agony in the first place. 😂
It did make sense to cut this number from the movie. You can't really have Billy Magnussen turn out to be a big enough sleaze for Mackenzie Mauzy to kill herself.
I and my twin brother are the princes in our schools production of into the woods. I am playing Rapuzels prince and my twin is playing Cinderellas and we just love this song.
That awkward moment when you realize that Robert Westenberg's Prince also plays the Wolf. *face-palms* It took me quite a few times just today to realize this. I love this reprise, though.
It may have been done that way to hammer in the idea that they're both predatory characters with false promises, where both the women they are involved with end up losing their innocence.
In an older version of Sleeping Beauty the prince was already married and when his wife found out she tried to cook and eat Sleeping Beauty and her children. Imagine Cinderella doing that.
I had the privilege of having a masterclass session in middle school with Chuck Wagner, and I didn't really know who he was at the time. I just remember him mentioning that he did Beauty and the Beast in Toronto the same time I went to see it as a little girl, & it was then I caught the theatre bug. It was only MUCH later I realized how accomplished he was! I recently decided to watch this filmed version of Into the Woods (which I've seen before, but a long time ago!), and realized it was him!
Of course the movie cut some stuff! Big screen adaptations always cut and change a lot of stuff. You can NEVER judge a movie based on what it comes from, be that book or play. Enjoy "Into the Woods" for the great movie it was, don't hate it for not being exactly like the broadway musical. You've already fucking seen the broadway musical. Would it please you to be godamn identical to the thing that you've ALREADY SEEN??? If you wanted to see the broadway musical, you should've gone to the theatre, not to a theater.
ik, I was disappointed they didn't include this in the movie, it was not only funny but also built on the idea that these princes enjoy the thrill of chasing a maiden more than they enjoy being in a relationship with them
Actually, it's "biers" -- a bier is "a movable frame on which a coffin or a corpse is placed before burial or cremation or on which it is carried to the grave."
NocturneofSerenity A bier is a stand on which a corpse or casket is placed to lie in state. This is Pope John Paul II lying in state on his funeral bier: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/JPII_on_bier.jpg If you remember, Snow White and Sleeping Beauty were on similar biers, with Snow White's been encased in glass.
he said biers - those platforms and stands they put a coffin on (modern ones are those shiny silver or gold ones they use to bring the coffin from place to place outside the hearse)
Always thinking about how the movie version bombed so bad to me. This was my first and favorite musical of all time. Johnny Depp as the wolf was about the only thing i liked
@sunshineface0014 This version does that as well. Your highschool is probably just skipping the second act completely. (most school versions do, since the second act is so...morbid) (this song is from the second act, its a reprise of the similar song found in the first act)
I just got cast as Repunzel's prince on Vashon Island (Shameless advertising from a starving artist) AND I CANT WAIT TO SING THIS GEM OF A SONG! cuz it's hilarious and all ^__^
@msBroadwaybabe123 A small correction--it's: "...your thing w. dwarves." "Dwarfs!" "Dwarfs." "Dwarfs are very upsetting." So, prince #1 says the word, misspelled & mispronounced. Prince #2 corrects him, emphatically, & prince #1 then repeats it, correctly this time. Prince #2 then gives his opinion on dwarfs. Just 1 of the many things we can learn by enjoying musical theater. It's not surprising that S. J. Sondheim would teach us such a little lesson, given his punctilious way with language.
NO, Chuck Wagner (born June 20, 1958) an American actor, director, musical theater historian and teacher. He has had an extensive career in theater, but is perhaps best known for co-starring in the short-lived science fiction TV series _Automan_ (1983-84).
if he could hear my screem Rapunzel's prince: Rapunzel Me: what are you talking about? Rapunzel's prince: .............................. Me: hahahahahaha
The one married Cinderella and the other one married Rapunzel... But the play is about humanity and discomfort, so they fall in love with Sleeping Beauty and Snow White respectively, because those two princesses are unreachable, and the princes have a sort of pathological need of pursuing things they can't have
