I'm getting tired of the internet. I have some [fame] [contingences]; I'm beginning to want to pursue them instead. I won't, but I'm going to start looking into them more seriously.
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The INTP paradox - If you talk ,you come off as annoying and arrogant . If you keep to yourself and stay quiet ,you're considered an autistic creep . There is no winning . I just learned to just go with the flow .
100%, even when I want to help I often don't know how to communicate a point without coming across as an arrogant know-it-all. Alternatively, I'm seen as cold and distant. Honestly, today's society is terrible for INTP-types since we're often truth-centered to the extreme, without even considering how the truth may make people feel. For instance, when I was a teacher assistant for a while the teacher would on a few occasions repeat information that was completely wrong. I decided to be helpful and tell her that, which caused her to be deathly insulted and more or less ruined the workplace environment for the remaining months I worked there.
Entp here viewing yourself black and white on the social spectrum. You know damn well life hasn’t just given you two options of operation. “Find the right words”
Here’s my reaction as a 29 year old INTP: 1. You don’t know anything. Never forget that. (No one else knows anything either, so if you hear something take it with a grain of salt) 2. Pursue your interests. Others will not be as interested as you. That is ok. 3. Go deeper with your interests. Ask probing questions and investigate tangents. 4. Complain clearly and with details. A good complaint, when viewed upside down, is an action plan. 5. Ask, how can I be useful. If there is something useful for you to do, at least consider spending time and energy on it.
As an INTP who constantly beats themself up, rejects any praise, and praises others, I'm having trouble understanding just who it is you're talking about. I have had a test come back as ISTP, but most tests I get placed under INTP, so that's the one I go with. Edit: I think this video is more of a self hate video than an actual video criticizing INTPs. Which would actually kinda match my experience, at least when it comes to constantly engaging in self degradation. But I wanted to ask: are most INTPs not lonely? Because... I'm almost always lonely or alone. Most times I actively choose that.
I agree with your read of this video. Is self loathing a common thing for INTP? I wouldn’t be surprised You’re not the only lonely person or the only person who chooses loneliness (I know cuz I do too, and the chances that it’s only the two of us out here are low) I do best when I make space for myself to be myself. I have to do this work bc society doesn’t do it for me. Personally I love books so I’m forever buying and organizing (and sometimes even reading) them.
@@Blurry-jc6mp Okay, so then self loathing does seem to be a thing that INTPs have in common. At least so far. However, I feel it's worth pointing out that personality types aren't everything. The types are just generalizations composed of many similarities between many different types of people. Not to mention personality is a very fluid thing. So I'd try not to focus on the Meyers-Briggs type chart too much. But, we do appear to fairly similar. General dislike for people because they mostly suck (though some people stand above the crowd), a skeptical nature so as to ensure we remain as objective as possible and not take things on feeling alone, rejection of praise, and self loathing because being those things makes people dislike you which cuases you to think there's something wrong with you. But I'll tell you right now, as an INTP who has been growing more emotionally, as well as rationally, but more importantly as an individual myself, there's nothing wrong with you. And none of those things you mentioned are an act. They're who you are. And they're things you should be proud of. And if people don't like you for it, then it can only be a good thing, because now you don't have to waste your time on those people. Edit: Also, even if you place high value on the types, don't forget that the different types aren't monopolies on anything. Daydreaming isn't an INFP thing, it's a human thing. I daydream a lot. It's probably the thing I do the most. Sometimes it's just me constantly over thinking everything, sometimes it's me imagining unlikely scenarios, and sometimes it's a result of my overactive imagination. And it generally helps me as a writer. Or... Someone who wants to be a writer. But it doesn't make me any less of an INTP because of it.
@@Blurry-jc6mp That doesn't sound like laziness. Just a good ol' case of procrastination. And or just not giving a shit. At a certain point in high school I just stopped studying and writing notes, and I carried that through to college as well. Though I only went so far as to get my Associates Degree. Procrastination only becomes an issue when it gets in the way of things you want to do. But you usually find a way to force yourself into doing the things you need to do.
@@DarthTingleBinks Type isn't about a collection of generalizations and moreso unified components of psychomechanics, at least from a jungian standpoint, rather than MBTI, which is watered down. Btw, the online tests suck. Don't trust.
@@Blurry-jc6mp I've kinda just come to accept when someone praises me. I don't like it, but... They're not wrong. Except when they exaggerate things. And as I progressed in school, I sometimes intentionally procrastinated. I would almost always wait until the last day to write an essay, and basically became the master of writing a passing essay in the first draft. Though I also edited as I wrote, so it made things a bit easier. But it was kinda fun. It gave me more time to actually think and plan out the essay so that when I actually wrote it I could just focus on the writing instead of what it was I was writing about. Talking about feelings is a difficult thing for me, too. You kinda ignore your feelings because you think they either don't matter, or aren't as important as everything else, and that is technically true, but it can also do a lot of damage to your mental health. But being forced to talk about it does suck. So I'd recommend just finding one great friend you can talk to (who is also okay with you venting onto them), because despite what you or I may think, talking does actually help. Even if you have to talk to yourself, or find other means of healthily letting your emotions out, I'd suggest doing it. I eventually made it work. And despite the fact I still constantly think about offing myself, I am generally happier, and also know that I won't off myself. Not anytime soon, anyway. I definitely want to cut that death bed shit short.
Hi, ENTJ here again. Around the idea of an INTP's parasitic attachment to groups of people for validation, and wanting to be something vs choosing not to be or not wanting to, I have a couple insights to add. I see this a lot with INTP/INFP content creators, and I'm seeing more of them in that field nowadays. They'll give advice on their niche interest or buzzwords as Skimmerlit said, and it's rarely more than just empty space being filled for the sake of having the conversation, but not taking action on it. This is especially true when their stream or channel is based around that one niche. My advice, even for the INTPs and INFPs that aren't content creators, follow Skimmerlit's words "if you want to be something...you have to choose to be something, or accept that you don't want to be something." To extrapolate on that, you can choose to be something, but you absolutely must follow through. Get out of your comfort zone and actually do what you set your mind on. You can say "you're an ENTJ, it's easier for you, easier said than done." That is a true sentiment. However, even ENTJs struggle with the follow through at times. We just have the advantage of larger social groups and we'll brute-forcing our will into a goal to make it happen. However, I'm not saying for you to do the same thing with the brute-force of will or forcing yourself to find large social groups for help. For INTPs and INFPs, you need to at least give yourself true incentives to follow through and complete the "something" you choose to be, the path you choose to take. Incentivize yourself with the positive outcomes of doing it, and the negative outcomes of failure. Then slowly chip away at your ego as you explore it. Take small steps at a time until you get yourself into a routine of self-actualization on that path. If you judge someone for being inauthentic or lacking a character you think they should have, look introspectively first. Are you being who you want yourself to be? Can you really judge them if you too are not exemplifying the characteristic you want? If not, change it. Don't just be a talking head. Have the conversation from a place where you can actually give the advice because you've lived that experience and overcame it. Also, keep in mind that just because it works for you, doesn't mean it works for everyone else.
I know I need to hear this. Will have to listen again when I'm ready to introspect apply. Thanks for helping your fellow INTP. Edit: As an INTP female...no way would I give the lame advice to cry in public. So bizarre. But I do preach about things that I myself suck at. I feel like I know personally how hard it is to be without those qualities and I want other people to avoid my mistakes.
I know two INTPs well (one male one female) and they're both being sold way short by the initial description. I can see if this is about how an INTP feels on the inside -- I wouldn't know. But to your point, they're 'tools' in the sense of being tremendously useful if harnessed properly. The circumstances have to be right for their skills, and they need to be pushed. Then they pull off amazing feats.
If I knew any INTPs other than myself that I know are INTPs than I would hope they aren't as insufferable as me. Dealing with myself full time is already enough. 😂
I work with an older intp, she is successful because she specializes in our field, making herself into a subject expert. She's great to work with because as opposed to xnfj who need a lot of Fe bs before you present an idea to them, intp will just listen to the logic, disect the logic, see if it applies to Si rules and then discusses it on its own merits. She uses Fe but sparingly, enough so it moves things along. It also makes her great because she doesnt take ideas as personal attacks at her intelligence or any other games that xnfj play. I enjoy working with her a lot even if her Ti-Si makes me(intj) laugh because i see the other side of the idea Te-Se. She wants to know if the logic-rules are exact while i care if people will actually use it out there in the field of life lol (Te-Se). So i guess i wanted to say intp can be great and successful if they use Ti-Si to specialize in their discipline, are not too Fe-bsing and are open to Te-Se sometimes saying "all that its great but will people use it??" And having a laugh about it. 😅
Me disciplined!? … Well in all honest, I’m an INTP, and certainly do not consider myself disciplined, and can tell you that my INTJ partner is far more structured than I am. When it comes to talking, I only talk a lot with like-minded individuals, because I know that hardly anyone is interested in anything I had say. Also I am very aware that I am socially awkward, so I know that as long as I do not talk, I will not make people feel uncomfortable.
Couple things; The part where you talked about your guys potential in my opinion seems like the Te in you talking… But I will say Intps are pretty interesting in their respective fascination. I think you personally do this thing though where you figure out a reason and a cause on a behavioral level with types but even though you might know it… Humans are extremely dimorphic and sometimes I wish you would incorporate the good “versions” of each type. Also this underlying idea of what is right i think would rub off on people here’s what i mean… For example the infj video touched me in a way because i had VERY scarily similar experiences to the satan infj… i don’t like them that much. But I think i personally try to find the foundation… why does this certain type have these tendencies? What is “good” in their perspective and how could they understand that they are being bad people when they have no Te? Because to them it seems completely fine even if they are destroying peoples lives in the process. Like opposed to what you did in that circumstance way not appeal to their pathos? They like to “think” and represent they are kind good people. So point out how they can fix these behaviors and what to take notoriety of while acknowledging their process. Like what you could have said is. 1. If your a infj your Si is shit and Si types will remember you as a bad person and call you out on your shit even though you tried to detach yourself from it they can’t… and you actively hurt people when you rewrite history and say you’ve “learned” from this. 2. Your Te is non existent so understand when someone is attacking your actions they ARE tryjjg to make you out to be a dick and it probably will hurt you but they are not a bad person for doing it. 3. Controlling an emotional environment then judging people when they don’t coincide with your “plan” about what is should be is going to piss a lot of people off even if they won’t show it. “though some will”. Whipping people back into place is only going to cause more resentment and for some types (intj) hatred. I can think of a few more and you don’t like giving advice so i didn’t incorporate that just say it out loud and you don’t like giving advice not because your an intp but because your an intp that doesn’t like to but i am sure in some way they might like it just as other types do. In the contrary you depict the Ne doms primary Enfps good people. When they will play psychological warfare on you if you wrong them which can also hurt other types. Fi can be seen as delusional to others. The point is no type is inherently good or bad i get it’s your perspective 100% i just wanted to say that. The Rorschach persona here is cool and all but just maybe a little more emphasis on the cognition not the behavior? Just a thought. ~Enfp
Out of topic question. I am an enfp also but I am wondering if it’s possible to live my whole life happy without seeing someone of the same healthy personality type face to face. I realised my penchant to extend the conversation of anyone I befriend is not reciprocated so well after some time probably because my topics don’t usually have a conclusion or any practicality. In a world of mostly sensors according to mbti statistics,it’s hard to find that succulent desert of unending extrapolative discourse. I mean I could always find a thread that have people like me but it doesn’t feel the same as it’s more transactional than personal (idk if that’s the way to put it)
@@hyjjjkyikk3158So basically if you never learned mbti you would be saying “i can’t find anyone that does something i like that i really like to do and there isn’t much reciprocity here”… In that case i would say there is always someone who will want to do something similar to you especially now it seems like a less prevalent issue but with more context that you gave i can go deeper… Real quick something that enfps do without realizing it is they really like to talk about themselves or something that interests them… You might pick up that people aren’t as interested in the thing that you are hyperfocused on… so what you do is you find someone who has a similar interest and hash out ideas with them and this is very simple for most enfps because they are probably the most adaptive and perceptive type of people thoughts and feelings in a given moment. Your issue seems to be really personal and based on your own perspective… For me there’s this tendency to understand what someone likes and dislikes just mid convo and i might direct the convo to learn something about that… I also enjoy more so engaging with more types to fuel my own perspective. (Your brains thoughts are just an amalgamation of other peoples perspectives). Enfps for me at least are good with discussing thoughts the problems but i actually prefer other types over them
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 Also, I would shake the idea that there are less intuitives. It’s a statistic that doesn’t really matter here. I’ve been blown away in discourse with Istps and estps for example also istjs… The convo might run a bit differently then how a Enfp can go on and on but that usually gives your brain something to marinate on more… I don’t know that much about you though or why your thinking this way but i’ll say this in short just so you can hear my perspective of types and ideas. at least for me Entjs are fun to bounce ideas with if they are invested in something. Infjs can be great conversationalists if there is mutual respect. entps judge your ideas but that’s only because they give there thoughts a lot of fucking time other than that they are extremely open minded. istjs are good at pin pointing exact info that in a way i respect more out of other types. istps are very deep and cryptic but the ones ive met are actually very open minded about discussing there ideas if you go in with good faith. Estps are pretty damn good listeners and wise asf. Intjs i see eye to eye with… i realize how long this is getting actually i’ll stop now… Point is at least for me with a lot of these types i can spend hours with and never get bored maybe your situation is different and there is something you didn’t say but maybe a tip is don’t be scared to open your ideas especially in group environments because usually the questions enfps ask have a barb to them that spark peoples curiosity
Hm, is this the case with the average INTP? I came to terms with my lack of general discipline very early on and constantly have conversations with my ENTJ uncle and ESFP bestfriend to keep me on top of my shit no matter the means, I as a grown man have given them permission to outright take away my PC in the event that I slip... These kind of things keep me on my toes (though I still slip up a ton) and were all put in place because I understand my lack of discipline, especially when said discipline is expected on a societal level. I can be pretty hard on those who want me to submit to rules that I don't deem necessary or reasonable and I fully understand and lean into that as well - because of this I see myself out rather than step on anyone else's toes, even if seeing myself out puts me at a deficit (I've missed some really important meetings all because I wanted to dress comfortably & my ENTJ uncle didn't think it was appropriate for conversation - I know that it isn't based on typical social convention but the person we were meeting with bums it out all of the time, my uncle's response to that argument was "You're not him" hinting towards me not being at his tier of success - That's the most dick sucking way to uphold a social convention I've ever heard, so I stayed home and felt glad that I did, we had another meeting because they realized my insights were important) I do agree with your tangential point in that throughout the journey of self improvement it is the case that I voice my opinion on how I'll conquer certain things and oftentimes place very little external effort into that thought, I can see this being annoying for others who expect some kind of visible progress but I've often interpreted this as fishing for insights as well as attempting to root myself in that direction. My thoughts do not seem real when existing only in my mind but expressing them to others when they pertain to something that may wield real world activation can sometimes give me a boost because I know that someone is expecting something of me or they may add a thought in that could potentially shift my eventual approach towards said improvement... This is the general idea I think, it doesn't work a lot of the time and causes me to have to take more drastic measures but I don't see this as particularly harmful albeit possibly a bit annoying for others to have to accommodate. A lot of what you're referencing does seem like things I've had to grow through past my extremely cringe god complex teenage phase; positing insights as my own without much depth or useful application, inability to progress without systems in place that force me to (coincidentally these systems naturally exist when you're a teenager so inaction is a larger problem for me now than then) & the arrogance that stemmed from my perceived intellect was steep... However these things have led me to failure in more situations that I can count and I couldn't remain a person that I deemed respectable without having to reflect on my many weaknesses and attempt at building my way out, there's a lot more room to grow but I think that I've reached a place to where I can truly say that my journey of self actualization at the current age of 24 has not all been for naught and has taught me invaluable lessons about what it means to be human and ways to conduct myself properly. I believe that it is the case that INTPs need people to hoist us upwards when we begin to outcast ourselves on account of being 'misunderstood for our brilliance' as our arrogance may convince us of, which may be a nuisance and make us fairly difficult to deal with but this seems like such an instrumental process for us until we are able to realize that we've been able to stand on our own two feet all along without having to over analyze how we'll go about doing so. I think that the average INTP may be missing out on a vast range of life experience which keeps them stunted, though I've not met many so I truly don't know what we may look like on average. I absorbed your video by means of reflecting on my younger self and in from that perspective, I can agree with many of your points as younger me was an idiotic dick head that I'd probably only deem useful in very specific scenarios, if it is the case that that attitude remain prevalent in the average INTP up until adulthood then I may feel a bit iffy about the type as well. However, if most are able to get out into the world and get knocked on their ass a ton, I also believe that we are amongst the top of the list when it comes to potential as a type - only few of us may ever live up to said potential and I think this is mostly due to our circumstances. Either way, been enjoying the mass of uploads lately, that work skirmish may have put a battery in your back lmao
I'm not sure at all. Perhaps if we pigeon hole people of a specific personality type we have a rigid idea of what each one is *supposed* to be, based on their worst or more obvious traits in general, maybe it averages out somewhere. I cannot seem to escape the INTP personality type no matter how many times I take the test at different intervals, yet this dissection of INTP is very disconnected from my experience. Either Myers Briggs is off, this video dissection is off or I'm off. Perhaps obvious INTPs are easily spotted and difficult to deal with. I don't know that many.
Really spot on. Where Se is for INP's could cause issues/unawareness. I know I can be insufferable, and gaining that awareness after losing a few friendships and learning typology helped me work on some of it. It's cringe for sure, but sometimes we're stuck in a negative cycle of trying to put ourselves out there to improve that Fe, failing, retreating and going back other there again. I can understand why people would find us annoying. It makes sense to hint for the not well-adjusted ones to go back and work on themselves before acting transparently cringe. Can't speak for INFP, but I guarantee for INTP, where we have our Fi, we likely find ourselves more annoying than others do or even hate ourselves. It's overcompensating. You're entitled to have that opinion though.
Wow. You aren't lying. When I have to put myself out there for success, I don't appear as an INTP. But I have a desire to be authentic just because i dont run in to peoplelike me, especially being female.I like to be a representative of a different kind of woman. So, at times I may hone into intp stereotype, which is comfortable, but doesn't really bring anything to the table other the authenticity. I think mbti can make us feel known and give the INTP an identity, which can feel satisfying. But talking a lot to show how much insight you have on the earth doesn't really go anywhere unless you do something. Lucky for me, my husband is an ENTJ, and my best friend is an ENFP, and they hold me to a higher standard than I hold myself. I kinda of don't want to disappoint them. They might learn my a bigger loser than they think.😶
I'm moving away from typology because of how it's used popularly. You're right: Preestablished identities can feel comforting, but, even if you are technically part of an identity, that doesn't make *you* everything people believe that identity to be. There's an urge to claim everything good you aren't and to disclaim everything bad you may or may not be. Typology works best (imo) when viewed as a series of dams directing water with common positive and negative tendencies rather than as a series of checkboxes. INTP functions and INTP popular identity combine in a way that tends to create complacency when not approached carefully. I'm not a fan.
As an infp i always thought, me preaching about discipline and whatnot while being a complete hypocrite stemmed from my fi. But your explanation about Te Fe effect makes a lot of sense actually. I will definitely look more into it and try to avoid doing it cuz what you described sounds really annoying and i know i do that a lot
God this video comes at a crazy time and is eerily accurate. I'm literally facepalming in shame every 2 minutes at how accurate this scrutiny is. 1:10 I've seen the "talking about discipline" thing from my INTP dad wayyyy too many times when I was younger. He's always lecturing me on having a good attitude and leading a life of discipline. He's right, of course, but I hadn't really seen him exemplifying this principle until I grew a bit older (he's been on upward trend since then in terms of discipline, but he still gives me unsolicited, long-winded lectures on life though lol). 2:35 As an INFP, the validation and status thing is so real. All I've done is talk about all the ideas I had or places of improvement for the clubs/organizations I've been in, and have never really initiated anything myself. I just talk. In one of the clubs that I'm currently in, I've definitely had some suspicions that they don't respect me. They (group leaders) often talk over me, and probably only actually take what I say into consideration because most people don't speak up (and if I may be a bit egoistic here, many of my suggestions are pretty good ngl). It's probably way worse than I think it is. I probably should try to actually come up with a detailed plan to execute on to earn their respect (and some for myself, as well). 4:03 And omg I've literally just done this "asking for advice" things so many times in the past year. For example recently, I've been struggling with the concept of "uncertainty". I'm unlikely to even attempt to do something unless I am almost certain I'll get something out of it. As you might imagine, this is a terrible way to go about things. I've asked for advice from my dad, several friends, and even my philosophy professor before I gave up because all the answers are basically the same and I don't like it: "It is impossible to be certain about anything, and you can only make decision s based on the experience and knowledge you have at the moment. If there comes a time where you're forced to make a decision because of he introduction of new information or sth else you can only use your best judgment. Your judgment might be very bad right now, but it can only be built with experience and that experience can only come through exercising your judgment through decision-making." TL;DR: Use your common sense to make decisions, and if your common sense sucks, it's because you have no experience. So actually go do stuff. 9:13 "parrot things they heard from other people" ... ouch ... "shitty audio recorder with no substance and no spine" ... double ouch... I hate that you're not wrong. 11:50 omg I swear that's literally what I started doing this semester to improve my social skills 12:26 girl... what 13:58 this was literally what my character development in high school was about-- realizing people have different lives and ways of thinking/approaching situations -- perspective, basically 14:05 ENTP philosophy professor jumpscare -- swear this is what we said word for word (though, he was speaking in the context of virtue ethics ) I can't really even use the excuse that my current way of doing things is "efficient" because at this point, it's way more difficult to fake knowing how to do something than to actually learn how to do it. And when I'm actually able to do things, I feel really good about it! And it's beneficial to do these things to build skills for future me! But I'm not! Or, well, I'd like to say that I'm at least trying a little in the form of actually trying to intentionally study for my classes (as opposed to before when I'd procrastinate until the last minute, wing it, and barely get by). Let's see what happens, ig. Apologies for the long rant, and I apologize for clogging up your sinuses lol.
Well, not every INTP is the same as we all differ slightly. For instance, I have always been very socially awkward, but some others are not so. I never cry in public, but to cry sometimes over a movie.
As an INTP I mostly agree with you just motivation for attacking people or showing a social image is not relevant to me at all. In fact I tell myself constantly that I don't give a shit about any social situation, or any advice given to me, we have already overthunk everything. I feel like the INTPs you've interacted with are not well developed and stupid or struggling with present day American culture.
Very interesting video. VERY interesting. If I'm being honest I didnt like this video at all in the first few minutes. I couldnt relate. It didnt describe me one bit. Of course that could mean 1 of 2 things. This IS me and I dont have the self awareness to see it. Or I GENUINELY have self improved to the point where these issues do not apply to me at all. I kept listening as I pondered which one I am. But I thought about the hours of training I do for dance. The intense practice I do. All self taught without having someone tell me to do it. The daily goals I've been writing down (and DOING them, not just writing them) for many years now. Every single day without fail. The daily pushups I've been doing every day for over a year now. I thought about my obsession with discipline (not the idea of it but the APPLICATION of it) and I concluded this is not me. But I kept listening anyway. Trying to understand your thought process more. And as I was listening one of my best friends popped into my head. And then I immediately understood everything you were saying. He's the one that goes out of his way to talk about being stoic. Logical. And disciplined. But hes the most emotional person I know. And we've talked about this too. And hes come to terms with it now. But at the time he couldnt fathom it. He also saw himself as a masculine alpha male type dude. But one day I realized hes actually a very feminine guy. And the girls that were with us at the time we talked about this, confirmed the same thing. He didnt want to accept that as true but overtime realized it is. The fact is hes not actually DOING anything to change it no matter how many strategies I give him. No matter how easy I make them. He just doesnt have the consistency. So as you kept talking it just made more and more sense. You described him spot on. I havent PERSONALLY known many INTP's. To my knowledge...just myself. And him. Thats really it. Then it dawned on me. This video is actually confirmation. People never guess I'm INTP. Ever. Even if I tell them they dont believe it. Only when they have an actual conversation with me and see my thought process they say its obvious. But besides that, they cant see it. They think im some kind of extrovert because of decent social skills and having empathy lmao. People usually tell me I'm like their therapist. Listening and understanding others allows me to help them (which I genuinely enjoy) but also teaches me to have empathy for others. Which is a skill you can develop. As well as social skills. This video confirms my hard work has genuinely paid off to the point where I dont fit the description you gave of most INTP's and it shows in my personal life too. However, when I think about the ONLY other INTP I know...I see the validity in what you say. And I do appreciate this video now. In fact, its part of the reason I dont like the INTP stereotypes. They dont apply to me anymore. I decided long ago to do something about my inadequacies. Simple as that. Very good video though. For the people who think "hmmm, you must not be an INTP then." Nonsense. Ive taken at least 100 tests. Studied the functions. Been typed by multiple MBTI practicioners. INTP is the unanimous judgement. Only a genuine sit down conversation can truly prove it. In conclusion, this was an interesting video that made me introspect and ponder a lot which I enjoy. Btw, im not some sophmore in highschool but I do love Death Note so🤷🏾♂️🤣
I do think I’m someone who practices what I preach and if I don’t, I make it known that a piece of advice doesn’t work for me, but might apply to their situation. I became confident in what I know because of the hundreds if not thousands of hours of self-research. Very open to criticism but most people don’t put in the amount of effort so it rarely goes anywhere. But it’s hard for me to share any half-baked ideas or ones I don’t fully believe because it makes me feel vulnerable. I have such a strong urge to tell my ENTJ friend their flaws cuz he’s always confused (and miserable) when things don’t work out for him while also being overly confident in his abilities with little to back it up. He says a lot but his actions say the opposite in both good and bad ways. Bad in the sense of talking highly about his leadership capabilities while blaming the group when it fails (most of the time). But no matter what he says about being self-centered, he clearly puts his friends above himself in a non-selfish way. I would know because I put my friends above myself in a selfish way (and they all know that cuz I’ve told them). From my perspective, my friend fits the character you’re describing to a tee. I don’t want to potentially break him (cuz I’ve broken another ENTJ before whoops. In my defense, my ADHD medication took away my filter and she asked for my opinion) so imma keep my mouth shut unless a conversation opens up. Honestly observing him taught me that I can be confident when I don’t know what I’m doing
Kinda scary how this video overall is just a representation of an INTP that's being gripped by their shadow: Emotional, Te-preferring, self-contradicting and coindencending. The message behind it isn't all bad per se, it's just clearly made from a place where the INTP is not thinking in a clear-minded and balanced way. That's propably what makes this the most relateable, these are things I 100% would beat myself emotionally over with.
Seems you've run into a bad batch of INTPs. I'm a 65 yr old INTP and cannot relate to nearly all that you say about them. I can imagine the INTPs aren't too thrilled about you either, lol
Good things Myere-Briggs is a glorified horoscope. And no I'm not just saying that because I am a butthirr INTP who read the title of this video and immediately went to the comments section to complain about it.
I don't know how I got recommended this video, but this whole personality type religion is far more useless than any one of these supposed rigid 16 "types" of human personalities.
I think some INTPs think the rest of the world views things as they do or that other people *should* do and everything would be nice and neat and better if logic reigned supreme. INTPs get caught up in macro-scale ideas and have a hard time applying it down to an individual level.
As an intp i dont push push anything on others that i dont do myself. And as far as not moving toward a goal goes thats universal to all personalities in one way or another. This video seems purely personal😂
Nah it's worse, Myers Briggs was first started to categorize how well a person "works" with others. So it's gross capitalist shilling on top of being garbage typical of what you get when white conservative men are the main samples.
@@cross-eyedmary6619cap. No, like actually, Myers-Briggs is BS. Its a pseudo-scientific theory of personality based on pure statistics. Most people do not fall under a single category, human beings are far, far more complex, yet we tend to identify with the things we already have an agreement with. For example, if I tell you I believe, as a male, Im sensitive, and this girl on tv says males are logical and females are sensitive, therefore Im a girl? No, of course not. But most males are, indeed, logical and less sensitive. Its _just tendencies_ , not facts. Most things in human life are not mutually exclusive.
@@cross-eyedmary6619 Oh the irony lololololol. No. Let me guess, you're the type to say "global warming is a hoax" to climatologists with customary "do your research." If ya want, we can go through the paint by numbers for how it's objective, unscientific garbage along with Jung's archetypes.
@@cross-eyedmary6619 Lol oh the Dunning-Kruger irony. You sound like the kind of person to tell an astrophysicist to "do their research" after they said the world isn't flat.
I m 16 and INTP. I really relate with "They think they have figured out things about life". I have a structural model of life and I m confident about it. I m lacking actions, I started philosophy and went little deeper, then same with psychology, then same with quantum physics and then got into programming, I learnt JavaScript's basics then python's basic but left them too, I m not good in school too. I don't know what to do I just watch self improvement video start something but never end it. After spending so much time in learning I now think I m no different in knowledge level then my other friends who waste there time In netflix. What should I do??
Man youre 16. Every 16 year old thinks they know the world in and out its just a part of being a teen and growing up. Dont let this guy get in your head making you feel like you arent doing enough, hes talking a bunch of shit about himself in this entire video as he is a self described INTP lol, dont put too much stock into his words. Keep dabbling in things that interest you, youre at an age of discovery and exploration. Dont feel bad about trying new things and dont get upset if things dont stick. THATS NORMAL! Youre a normal young adult trying to find their way in life. I just saw this guys video scrolling along youtube and while the myers briggs personalities are fun and all, were all human beings at the end of the day. Dont listen to people who so confidently believe theyve got beings as complex as humans figured out. Do what you think is best for your life and take what strangers say on the internet with a grain of salt! (Even what im sayinh here)
Outside the arrogant INTPs you mentioned, I get where you're coming from in for the Ti-Si loop INTPs but I think this is more of a Ne parent issue if anything and it's something I realize you can't necessarily fault INxPs because they get completely wrecked for using it, but u literally have no choice, it's 2nd in your stack. This is a "navigating your journey" problem due to the style of how INxPs do it compared to everyone else (a self-pacing journey). While Ti arrogance at first is enormously annoying, reality usually kicks in and Ne parent comes into the picture (the less arrogant INTPs). The parent function is the hardest one to grow and INxPs have an intuitive gathering information based function that requires max exploration "possible" in the physical world filled with sensors. If you want to use Ne parent at it's maximum with your cognitive stack, it is required for you to be a "mad scientist" and lab for "10 000 hours" overthinking and squeeze every single bit of info possible first just for you to actually say something to someone else once you have "discovered" something. Not only that but to get massive perspective, you need ALOT of brains so you're forced to ask or search multiple perspectives of people to grow your Ne parent! So the gist is, if an INxP is talking, it's because "they are informed" (or misinformed for that matter and that's when "INTPs are useless and arrogant") or asking to be informed. The function in that spot is probably the LEAST extraverted valued function in pragmatic settings for anyone except yourself and may throw a tu quoque fallacy in the process. Therefore INTPs will always appear impractical, useless, odd, awkward, or arrogant (even if you don't fit the category) unless a good Fe delivery of their message somehow hits home. The Se blindspot makes sensory so uninteresting at times that you're super zone out of reality and it looks like you have anhedonia, which is the party pooper of human interaction. It's forced to be a self-pacing process because of Si child that heavily focuses on their personal trial and error experience. So when you say INTPs are annoying, it's more like their whole being is! Sounds very "doomed before you even started." So while I understand I'm naturally unlikeable because of my "mad scientist" tendencies (not that I'm smart, the character traits), it's a bit bogus that people may look at me as though I'm Patrick Star for talking or saying nothing (a dumb INTP himself) and it's limited to my childhood time (where I will be the most immature). Based on the education system, its content and speed, there is NO WAY for you to intuitively grasp reality so fast (unless you're a genius or above average) and INxx types usually pay the biggest price with their sensory lag due to the huge gap between the experience of school and life. People generally speaking, don't give enough of a chance for INTPs to explore long enough to entertain ideas for the sake of entertaining it since they can't tolerate it long enough (in which some ideas are required of you to being an adult to understand the concepts holistically such as ethics), want some kind of sensory output, flat out don't respect their way of doing things, or just don't have the same judging metrics to measure outcomes, hence "navigating your journey" problem. And this sucks because not everything requires action (unless the INTP was stupid enough to put themselves in that situation when they weren't ready) nor do you gain "pragmatic benefit", but personal growth (if legit) as their principles start aligning with reality. Unless you truly are a genius and your field of interest allows you to explore in something that works for people (Te) while gaining monetary value to the market (Se) and social recognition for the value you bring (Fe), that is your only chance at being respected when you're researching (Ne). Or else, your personal back-end research is "worthless" or deemed annoying when you're doing it right in front of people! And this is hilarious because every human is so interested in morality, and "self-actualizing" their "hero's journey" but you literally have no choice to establish a foundation on a rock before you can get started by researching a truthful worldview that transcends this world, which takes years to build that castle. So while you can do it, you can't do it "the explorative sit down and think way", you have to do it in the "let experience be my best teacher way" which is so SLOW and you wonder why it takes 40-50 years to just grasp your inferior function when you can do it in 2-3 years if very serious in the explorative manner (with implementation). Yet ironically, people expect results as quickly as possible in a Se manner to get everything figured out as if you came out the hyperbolic time chamber...which is just impossible and blame the INxPs for not getting "visible results" (again, to those that actually walk the talk) or glorify the slow "normal way" of navigating life (thank the education system). That's why INxPs will be arrogant (which isn't good) for doing their due diligence because they see that others didn't do their "research", but those folks that counter might be arrogant as well for thinking putting money in their bank account or the ends justify the means is all that matters while thinking they get wiser by only experiencing and not thinking. Which in this case, both sides are just shallow. So the INTPs crawl into their cave or latch into a group in the hope that "someone will get it." At this point, INTPs have to realize they have their own pace because their methodology on the researching phase is probably the messiest out of any type, but once everything is sorted out, it's the most organized out of every type. They aren't like ISxP types where they can "do things as they go" in a way that looks appealing to others when going through their journey, it's very difficult for an INxP type to do that. It's usually just an unrespectable self-pacing process for those around their circle but seeing the final healthy product, people will like you. After all, people are very outcome-driven and not input driven but yet the right input is what got you the right outcome. I will say for myself that I'm really blessed and thankful I had a high school INTJ friend in my time that had the patience and willingness (since he was and still is interested) to talk about observations in a podcast setting while not touching grass for about 5 to 6 hours. For him and I, we both had our first "I can actually deep dive into topics with this guy where he won't get offended and don't have to worry too much about practically until necessary". So this isn't just some rant, it's realizing that "if an INTP was to be authentic, there are too niched for anyone to be interested as it's rare, they will be perplexed, and literally laugh at your frustrations even if you're seriously arguing like a doomer." (I say this because I did this and it hurts because I was seeking answers and no one was helping so I searched somewhere else). So typically, an INxP just need to be extremely attentive (especially when their views are being challenged) and talk to people that are just as attentive (or at least willing) as them. Finding that though...is a whole different story!
I'm an INTJ but have had extremely similar struggles. I think the anhedonia in my case might stem from being asexual, though. If you think "normal" INTJs are dismissive and apathetic, imagine finding one without a sex drive. I'm curious, though: why do you say that the second function is the hardest to develop? Mine came fairly naturally.
@@cultreader9751 Yikes, I relate! The 2nd function is the most difficult because you have to be extremely responsible with it, responsible like a "parent". The problem is, you are child for your 1st 18 years and it usually takes people around 30 years for you to be stable and self sufficient. If you mess up its development, you're pretty much screwed and you'll be "looping" with your 1st and 3rd functions constantly due to poor or lack of feedback if your 2nd function is extraverted or poor or lack of input if your 2nd function is introverted. I would argue the parent is the foundation for success and your sentiment towards people! You use it on pretty much on any occasion to be helpful and useful with others and personally grow yourself. You might do well with your parent on one aspect of your life, but there are lot of ways to use it.
I have to say that the INTPs that I have met always seemed intelligent and strong willed in their own way. What's frustrating though is that they rarely apply themselves since they think they have nothing to prove, but don't want to be underestimated at the same time. They would say, "I can be in honor classes if I wanted to, but that would be too much work". Huh? Just try and do it for yourself, so that you can show everyone your intelligence, instead of just talking about it to me. When you die, you want to at least leave behind something that will last, and you also want to at least have one person to speak and think well of you when you're not around.
I think we DO have something to prove and we are used to being underestimated. We want to show that with a little love and support, a little encouragement, we can do human things too!
@@cross-eyedmary6619 Yeah go off! You should show not tell though. I think you guys can do anything you put your minds to, it's just a shame that not many people get to see what you all can do. Go be a human my fellow human!
INTP here. I really don't care about leaving anything behind. Don't see the point in it. Nothing really matters once you're dead. Also Idk why I'm just used to being underestimated, it's annoying sometimes but it keeps me away from attention and maybe deep down I kinda like it.
@@typhonnix Hello INTP! I get the idea that you might not care or believe in an afterlife, but you should still care about leaving something behind after you die. It can be as small as taking care of an orphan through charity, or teaching your knowledge to others who want to learn from you. You don't want to leave life with regrets or the feeling like you could've done more with this one life you have right now. I respect your wishes of being left alone and away from the attention of others, but I learned from the other commentor that you do have something to prove to others and I, along with everyone else, would like the pleasure to see and hear from you! Thank you for replying and sharing your thoughts!😊
Hellow! Cmon INTP doesn't derive those other "facts" about 4% of people. This new age is so crazy bruh, but christianity also is so whatever. That one about parasites was so XD like i'm dying right now. But as an INTP i KNOW I'M THE GREATEST than others and thanks to say that to those other pleb that ISN'T INTP and at the same time you said that we are a "DUMB SHIT" because we are and i'm SO PROUD OF THAT, because all of us are punks and take the most narcotics than any other pleb that ISN"T INTP and yea i'm also trying to NOT BE INTP, because society says I'M DUMB SHIT AND LOSER and I don't want that, it was like 2 years now that I STOPPED BEING INTP and it's hard men, but maybe someday I would think for myself idk thanks man for sharing.
Are you sure it is Fe-Te and not Fe-Ne coupled with Se being blind spot so there is no follow up. As for crying in public, ISTP can do it too, just get them drunk and inferior Fe will do the rest.
Wow! This is the first time I hear about an INTP crying in public. I always knew that I was hypersensitive and that I would often feel really deep, but never felt comfortable showing my emotions, especially crying when people are around. I recall when I was in university and overhearing one of my good friends, an INFP, crying when something reminded her of her brother whom had died by suicide. I suddenly felt this intense urge to cry and even start feeling tears starting to form, so having been uncomfortable at the prospect of having other people see me get emotional, I turned my head the other way so people would see the tears forming.
First of all, I appreciate your time, hatred and analysis of people who operate differently. Not a joke. Truly do, just disagree. Secondly, you have compression under the back of your tongue and your consonants are obstructed from the front sides of your mouth. Also a tightness in the throat. My guess, as the total crap INTP, is that you’re about 5’6” tall, close to 200 lbs and I hear your fish tank. Seriously though. I did enjoy this video and thank you for sharing.
I feel exposed as an INFP. I often tear down other people's ideas or impose my views on them to elevate myself. It's not something I am consciously aware of though, and almost feels like a demon has taken over me. But I feel like shit when I look in the mirror. It's also why being around other INFPs are ok for a short time but after a while it feels like a mutual competition to see who is the more productive member of society, who is more successful and resourceful. When you are ugly, you avoid mirrors or obsess about your ugliness. Or you could lie to yourself that you are perfect just like the pigs in Animal Farm who became the thing they originally fought against. Btw, do you see any common pseronality type for the millions of young RU-vidrs with 500 subscribers who make productivity and "Why you should .............." videos?
Sorry bud, but you're not actually describing an INTP there. Everything in their power to come across a certain way? How they "want to be perceived by others" ? In reality INTP's do not care all that much about how other's perceive them and that's precisely the reason why social situations can be tricky for them. Extroverted folk put a LOT Of emphasis on how others perceive them because their entire way of being involves getting energy from the outside world. INTP's basically live inside their own minds and the outside world isn't really as much of a consideration.
@@Skimmerlit I certainly hope it is. Flat earthers who make videos claiming to be experts on gravitational pull and the earth while everything they say proves that they actually don't know even the basics of the topic at hand get the same exact response as this video is. When someone is so clearly a charlatan nerves should be struck more often.
You’re implying the odds you aren’t perfect are the same odds the Earth is flat. Do you know what cognitive functions are? Do you know what a mirror is?
Honestly, Skimmerlit, I'm going to have to somehat-disagree with you on this one. This video sounds like you are describing ENTPs. Or people trying to consciously become, being brainwashed to become, or being forced to become by others into ENTPs. Well, at least in the earlier part of the video. Also, one of the issues about this video that is overlooked (This isn't just your video / source. Most other sources about INTPs (and other types / people) overlook this as well) is the influence that other people have upon each other which shapes their behavior. INTPs are especially seen as prey by other people due to our extreme nature to be very aware of ourselves, but not necessarily of other's nature (or at least specific nature) accurately. If there are any INTPs you are describing, (I've encountered them before & various people have attempted (and failed) to turn me into one of them) then they are the ones who are being brainwashed by all of the NF types, the -SFJ types, and the most dangerous of all, the narcissistic and short-sighted, American / Abrahamic-religious baby-boomer-like ISFPs. Boomers in particular tend to be composed of a very high amount of SJ types (Guardians, as author David Keirsey of Please Understand Me calls them) whose nature / existence (which tends to trend to the opposite of reason) is not being very intelligent, therefore simply copying / pasting /spreading / parroting whatever information or behavior has influenced them first (in the USA, this being (post-WW2) ISFPs. A very lethal combo. ISFPs (ISFj in socionics) are the INTP's super-ego relationship / function in socionics. This is the very thing being promoted to the extreme by American society since the end of WW2, and exactly the thing INTPs don't need since we are very aware of ourselves. We need to be aware of others instead. This includes an understanding of other places, times, societies, and people outside of an American or Western context. The 2nd most dangerous type to INTPs existence is actually one that INTPs (and most other types (who are not even always aware of their existence) as well) almost NEVER take into account: INTJs. INTjs seem to think that libertarianism,freedom, human development, human experimentation and overthrowing / resisting authorities are all that people need for proper development. They are rational enough to try to channel (but not temper or get rid of) their Fi-function. STJs are too stupid / rigid to do any of this or they can be trained to put up with their Fi-function instead. E-FPs can channel their Fi-function into other activities that don't involve people. ENTjs can (although difficult to master) turn their 4th place Fi-function on or off by (at least) trying to avoid people who activate it. I-FPs and INTJs however are consciously aware of it or can't control it (INTJs 3rd place blind-spot) I think (I have never gotten any INTJs to actually tell me this though. I suppose economist Milton Friedman greed-is-good or Objectivist Ayn Rand selfishness-is-a-virtue are the closest I've gotten to getting a confession on this though) this is due to their subconscious (or conscious nature?) to try to become ISFPs due to their Fi & Se (in this order). Their 3rd & 4th functions. If you study it and really think about it, Fi is the crux of narcissism, preying off of others, and to a lesser extent (however this is mostly Fe): parasitism. Who are some of the most-oblivious-to others to exploit?: INTPs. There is an excellent 1990's-era show that involves this potential darkside of INTJ-INTP-INFP dynamics called 'The Pretender'. As alluded to earlier, many people seemingly want to turn INTPs (who are naturally socially conservative (in an excellent rational) rather than collectively-defined social-sense) into ENTPs (or at least (religiously-inclined?) ESTPs). I think this is due to ENTPs blind-spot desire to socially parasite (3rd spot Fe) everyone into a state of social democracy co-dependency (having all your eggs in the same basket) even unto death. Or ESTPs similiar 3rd spot Fe-desire to university-professor, gang-bully / boss, religious-priest (sorry, can't think of better terminolgy) everyone to death by being in a similiar co-dependent unhealthy state-of-being. (It remains to be seen whether INTJ film director Denis Villeneuve understands this dynamic about ENTP protagonist Paul Atreides. This depends on whether he stays true to ISTP author Frank Herbert's Dune or whether he decides (to go along with potential Hollywood plans) to liberalize Dune Messiah.) Despite what middle-eastern religions, western society, or post-WW2 American society in particular try to convince people; they are not the origin of, nor complete understanding of the history or nature of Homo Sapiens (which include INTPs), the nature or history of other species (which also include INTPs, I can personally confirm this, having spent some time looking after an INTP cat at one time), nor of the existence of this physical reality or any other realities that may (or possibly do) exist.
Useless? The technology you use to disparage intp? Is developed by an intp.... But people with small knowledge are certain to what they say to be true coz they have the brains to figure it out... just saying ; )
