This is how I hunted all last season (minus the extra weight ) after I found the JRB channel. I feel much much safer climbing and I actually enjoy it. Thanks so much for creating this awesome system John!
I tried to reply the other day, but my comment didn't seem to post... Thanks for your comment and pls look for the new stuff coming on the Playlist. Be safe and good luck this season.
Great stuff, I appreciate you "putting tools in the toolbox". This system looks great for folks who want something very small/light and that is "set and forget". But it still has redundant connections to the rope and minimal metal in the system. Of course if someone wants a more versatile system then they can go for a longer rope and use a maverick hitch to avoid having to thread a lot of rope through a fixed eye at the end of the rope. It comes at the expense of requiring more knowledge, tying a knot at the tree, and extra weight. All great stuff!
I could not have said it better myself. All designs have trade-offs involved and I just want folks to know what the options are, never compromising their safety. Cheers and good luck this season
I started saddle hunting this year and took John's advice to use a 40 ft rope. Watching the SRT and DRT videos I thought, "No way. Sticks have to be easier and I don't mind the weight since my spot is short hike." I like having direct access to the ground and climbing down with rappel instead of using the sticks was easier. After about 10 climbs (the latest one yesterday), I couldn't take it anymore. I hate the tediousness of getting all the sticks arranged hanging on my saddle, tying the knots, trying to move the lineman up the tree while climbing with aiders, etc. It took forever! So I decided to make a preset with paracord try a SRT climb next time with the Maverick Houdini method JRB posted not too long ago I think. I had about an hour this evening so I made a quick garda foot loop with some old flat rope I had, took an old camera monopod, shoved my rope 12 feet up and tried it out. I cant believe how easy it was! I'm definitely ditching the sticks and going with this from now on.
I’m looking forward to this series! Never entertained SRT or DRT as a mobile tree stand guy. I just see so much rope and cord and get confused and never really gave it a fair, open-mind.
That sounds like a healthy approach. In the meantime, ask yourself if what you're climbing on now would hold 300 lbs... 1000 pounds... 2000 lbs? Because we basically don't know. We're told something has a 250 weight limit but aren't told its actual strength and warned to wear a fall arrest Harness when using it and generally not told how to safely get to ground if there's a problem. My rule is simple: it doesn't matter what's under your feet because it can't be trusted. It's never a problem for me ... but a ladder stand is one of the hardest things to climb safely. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cu3B76AwhCc.htmlsi=Wdt2PYkwFsXA7_wr
I might have missed it, but what length/diameter rope are you using and what rope/diameter for the hitches. Do you use the main line as your tether while hunting ? If so, do you leave it hanging?
John, these are great questions. Most are answered on my website. Click on the pages for Rope, Cord, and Length Specs. This particular climb was executed with an 11 mm rope, but 9.5 or 10mm rope is more popular for an SRT climb. The cord diameter is selected based upon the rope diameter. 7mm is a great diameter for those ropes. 7ft is a good Length to cut for a Longhorn Agile hitch. Ok, now when hunting, yes, i stay on my rope the whole time. And yes, I draw it up into the tree and just drape it over a branch or my platform. Deer will notice a rope dangling down and so we simply pull it up. Let me know if ya have other questions after ya peruse the website. jrbtreeclimbing.com/
Hay JR, can you set up your hole system for me then I will buy it from you, obviously you need to have schools on a tour to each state so us simple minded traditional bow hunters can become a master like you 😁👊
Hey brother. I appreciate the comment. So many people want me to sell em a system, but I am not in this for money and I want y'all to take the responsibility to learn to tie your own knots. You'll be proud and you'll accept the responsibility for doing so.
Yes I would. It's great rope for DSRT. However, I prefer minimum of 9.5 mm for SRT systems. Especially for a bigger climber. I have demonstrated non mechanical SRT climbs on 8mm rope just to show it can be done, but it's not my preference.
@@alexu8199 i have done this climb on 8mm ropes, but i conservatively prefer the greater surface area of a thicker rope. I haven't actually tried it, but i could probably do this climb using 5mm cord on 6mm rope. But at some point, the smaller surface area becomes prohibitive. And the hitch will have less area to grip for breaking into rappel. Also, we have to consider that some climbers sre bigger than others and we must consider wet conditions as well. What you decide to use based on your situation is up to you, but be careful and accept the responsibility for your decisions.
I like to hunt with my 13 year old son. Last year, I sat in a saddle behind him in a tree stand. Would there be any reason I couldn’t have both of us in saddles in the same tree? Possibly using separate false crotches?
Assuming the tree is of adequate diameter and health, that is completely viable. However, you will need to plan the layout. You could be at slightly staggered height for example. Consider weapon safety and making sure you don't have a broadhead or muzzle pointing the wrong way. With SRT, I prefer using a "floating anchor" over a false crotch... simply because it's inches around the trunk and eliminates the possibility that the anchor itself is compromised. Please review those videos and choose carefully.
I am a big fan of our friends at NY Saddle. Any way that we can bring our friends to a no slack system is a move in the right direction. In terms of details, the anchor in this system is a "Running Loop" similar to the Running Bowline, and is the most elementary means of creating a canopy anchor. But the rest of thse 2 systems are very different. There is no device and no hand ascender here. The primary attachment and means of advancement are my own designs. Most importantly, this is a 1:1 system, not a 3:1 RADS system, so we are going to ascend at approximately a 3x faster pace and without friction of the rope bending as it passes through a device. I have shown some content on how a RADS system can be rigged with no devices at all simply using the Longhorn Agile. But overall, I am not a fan of RADS systems just because of the pace. An able bodied person doesn't actually need the mechanical advantage and can easily climb 1:1 instead of 3:1. Cheers and good luck this season. RADS demo was squeezed into the LA introduction: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dvkbzzf47S0.htmlsi=7AcXRmWvgn77id5Y
