Please visit www.evsenhance... for more information or to register your interest. 16 Blade is an advanced battery platform developed by EVs Enhanced as an upgrade for the Nissan LEAF.
Almost 1 year now. Hope this gets released soon because the window of opportunity is rapidly closing. Seeing more and more people selling their LEAFs to upgrade to MG4 or BYD Dolphin. I do hope this does make it to market because I want to keep my LEAF around as a second car.
Guys, balance your audio levels so people can hear you. You also need to INCLUDE the link to the things you mention in the video, in the video description, so people can just click them. I want to see you succeed so step it up!
I recently made a trip from Melbourne to Sydney in my 40kWh Leaf. I'm currently on my way back down to Melbourne from Sydney. I'll tell you: it ain't pleasant. Can't wait for you guys to bring this out!
We are from Sri Lanka Nissan leaf owners. Countries like us really need this thermal management system with battery pack. Hopefully this will available in here in next few years.
10 months without an update on this is a long time and those Chinese EVs are mighty tempting. Surely you fellas must have some tiny nugget of information you could share just to show this is still on the way.
Hi EVs enhanced. Thanks for taking on this great project. I bought a 2017 Leaf with the 30kw battery last year and really enjoy it as a city car but the additional range, better cold weather performance and more reliable DC charging would transform this car. There is a slow but noticeable degradation of the battery so while it's good enough for now, I'm already looking at battery upgrades / replacements. If you get the production sorted, please partner with EU companies such as Range Therapy and EV breakers in Ireland or Muxsan in the Netherlands. If your 16 Blade pack gets to production, the additional volume from partnering with others should help the per unit pricing and keep the current fleet of Nissan Leafs on the roads for a many more years. outweighs
Wow! Great work. I was concerned about the status of the16 Blade project as well as EVs Enhanced as a company. I am happy to see that the 16 Blade project is proceeding well. Looking forward to them being available in Canada.
Very good video. Someone else said price is key considering this will be going in an old EV. But it’s great to see companies giving new lease of life to an older Ev’s. I hope you can make both the product and the price work. Good luck.
Here in the United States, I got mine for $5k USD because the battery is at half life (I can get 60 miles in the summer with conservative driving). I would want to not spend much more than $15k altogether to get the car and replace the battery, considering it's used (maybe $20k, since new Leafs with similar range are in the $30k's). Hopefully the battery and installation fit my budget
@@gregb1599 Yes, the cost would have to be competive with what a used import would be from Japan, and the price difference between that and what I (for instance) could sell my Leaf for (which btw, has just over 70% SOH (2016 30kWh as well), down from 77% in April when I got it).
@@gregb1599 A brand new 40kWh LEAF in Australia is now around $51k, so fingers crossed that EVs Enhanced would keep the pricing for the upgrade at or below 1/3rd which would be around A$17000 which would still be viable.
Looking forward to this being available in the UK. Had my 2014 leaf for nearly 8 years, just hit 78,000 miles and sadly it just lost a bar. So whilst I'm okay for range at the moment, I'll be excited to upgrading to this in the future.
Looks like a great twenty year battery. For a ten year old car. I would be happy with a stripped down version. A 40 kwh LFP battery. Which can handle the heat and a PTC heater to warm it up in the cold. A good ten year battery. With better range than the existing 24 kwh battery.
They did say that they needed the cooling because they used LFPs with the highest energy density - so if they used more heat tolerant LFPs with lower energy density for the stripped down pack we might only get 30-35kWh in the pack. But then again, that would be plenty for a second car which is what most LEAF owners use it for anyway.
@@edvoon agreed. A heat tolerant LFP with 35 kwh is all I want for a 2nd car Leaf. Would expect 99% of all trips would be completed with max 1 DC fast chsrge
@@iangardner2311 I wholeheartedly agree. It does seem that the ten year old Leaf is more suitable for daily use rather than major road trips. It may seem like a good idea to have a long range battery but how many of the owners of the old Leafs would actually make frequent long trips involving multiple quick charges? If that was your use case then likely you would have already bought a more current model EV that was designed to be able to do the long road trips and which already has an active battery temperature management system. My impression is that current owners of the older Leafs would benefit more from a battery that was a low cost replacement and which was made from inherently temperature tolerant cells to avoid capacity reduction with age. If there are LIFEPO4 cells that have a higher temperature tolerance then forget all the active thermal management. Build a battery that just has the more tolerant cells. Use the space that would have been used by the thermal management system to possibly squeeze in larger cells for a bit more capacity. But over all make it simple so that it is low cost. Spending 20-30K on a replacement battery for a decade old vehicle is a bit difficult to justify. Especially if it is only for the occasional long road trip. The number of current owners that would be likely to pay that sort of price is very small so the majority of the Leafs will still end up as scrap even though there is nothing wrong with them other than their battery. To keep the maximum number of Leafs on the road the replacement battery needs to be cheap. There are over 100,000 Leaf owners around the world and currently there are no battery replacements. Leaf owners are having to pick the bones of written off Leafs to try and get something a bit better than what they have. If there was a thriving new battery replacement infrastructure then I could understand looking to build the perfect battery to get some market share. But there is currently NO competition in the battery replacement market for old Leafs. So to get 100% market share all that is required is to make it affordable and having a bit more capacity and a longer lifespan would just be the deal sealer.
Bolt EV is only sold in the US. So yeah it might not be worth it for you. But then again, you guys get 2nd hand LEAFs much more cheaply and used LEAF batteries are also much easier to procure so maybe it's cheaper for you just to keep getting used or re-conditioned battery packs for your LEAFs. The reason this is so important to Australian and New Zealand LEAF owners is because it's nearly impossible to get a used LEAF battery around here due to the low number of LEAFs on the road. And because Nissan won't supply any replacement batteries once they are out of warranty.
Very cool. We loved our 2011. We only bought a 21 LEAF SV Plus because it was hit and insurance refused to fix. Still was in excellent condition. Even with 2 smashed in doors.
What is happening with this? It's now mid July 2023 and you guys have gone silent? You need to start under promising and over delivering instead of what you have done over the last 2 years. What is the hold up at this point, I know so many Leaf owners that are keen to buy your product, just get it to market
Why would anyone want this battery with a cost of $20k when you can now buy 40kwh Nissan Leaf with all the safety tech for about the same price after rebate! This product is too late to be taken seriously.
I'm still waiting for this patiently :) I'm living here in New Zealand. I have a 2015 30KW Nissan Leaf @ 78% SoH. Hoping in the next few years when I really need a battery replacement... this will be available already :) Hope not too expensive that I would just buy a 2nd hand 40KW Leaf if that is the case... 😅
They will keep falling faster as the new, more affordable Chinese EV starts to flood the market. With the cheapest being $41k driveaway after rebate with a 51kwh battery and 7 year warranty. Even the 62kwh (59kwh useable) Nissan Leaf are close to that price with 10% battery degradation, so around the same capacity. It will be too late for this battery as one third the cost of a brand new Leaf before the price reduction or around $20k makes it crazy to buy one
Hi there. I am still very interested in your innovative solution for Nissan LEAF owners, but there is now a competitor for this market. VIVNE is offering 40/50/62 kWh for the ZE1/ZE0/AZE0 LEAF variants as module kits and complete battery packs. While they do not have active cooling and heating like your product, they do offer LEAF owners the opportunity to upgrade to new CATL ternary (not LiFePo) that the compny claims can achieve over 400kms in range. I hope to hear some news from EVs Enhanced soon.
Could you also work on the audio in your vidéos, it's hard sometimes, for a froggy, to understand. Guys, you're doing a very good job with these battery packs. Very well engineered. Anyway, I'm asking myself why Nissan didn't do what you've done. Wait if your battery packs will be available en France.
@@barakathegenius hey, thank you for the thoughtful response. I just really need 400km real winter range in a Leaf sized car, not to depend on the charging infrastructure in my country. hence my comment. 9000 is a very sensible price for 62+ATM
@@anthonyc8499 well certainly won't work with the system as-is, but the whole battery pack could be injected with tempered airs basically, even if it is less efficient the. reaching the internals of the cells.
Sad if this is vaporware. I'd buy a used leaf and install this system if it was for sale in the usa. I'm a qualified automotive service technician not just some guy off the street in case competency is of question.
Don't need the external liquid cooling as that's going to be too difficult for battery swapping. What's needed is a great lfp replacement battery with good capacity at least 50kwh, and an internal heater to allow charging in cold temperature. Rapid gate shouldn't be such a problem with modern lfp chemistry and can be managed with a good BMS
The only thing missing is a fan and ducting to help the radiator expel the heat. Also, the video said they are using their own cells, so how many miles is this battery pack capable of on a full charge?
Doh, the expansion bladder goes right where I put my "frunk" - a laptop bag with my BYO charging cables inside. Probably for the same reason I picked that spot - it's the largest cavity under the hood. Guess it's a small price to pay to get active cooling.
Would love to see these become available in the US some day. We've got a 2012 with the 24kwh battery, and although it is in really good shape (still has just about max range), we often daydream about upgrading it so we could go on proper roadtrips. Perhaps some day we'll get the Blue variant! Also, our Leaf, and many others in the US, doesn't have Chademo. There is a spot where the plug would be, but it's covered over in plastic. Would it be possible to add Chademo at the same time as an actively cooled battery? We did recently have the whole "cpu" replaced by Nissan, which they said chaged some minor functions regarding the charge controller draining the 12v battery. I saw recently Nissan approved the first V2G charger, which is Chademo. We just turned on grid-discharge with our three Powerwalls last month, and it made our bill drop another $33 from last year. That's only using about 30 kWh for arbitrage, so a 70 kWh Leaf (which we hardly drive) would produce some epic "savings".
@Short Version - I just bought a 2012 SV without the CHAdeMO plug. For use as a "grocery getter", we can live with the J1772 only. However an upgrade to something like the 16 Blade Blue battery makes me wish for a charging upgrade as well. Who knows, maybe even going straight to CCS? We can dream, right? 🤪
We got a 2011 with ChaDeMo only because it was the showroom model. Didn't know it was a big deal until Dala asked for a still of the charging screen to verify it wasn't a delusion. (And I've always despised the giant analogue speedometer of later models, so I've never wanted to buy one.) Still, L3 charging is hard on a battery, but you should do it once a year or so to break the "whiskers" that form internally over time (I get about 3-5 miles of range back after doing so.) Nissan replaced the battery with a 24kWh "Lizard" battery in December 2015, and LeafSpy shows the current battery has 68% SOH; fully charged, it can go about 60 miles even in Houston (which is about 20 miles father than we ever need to go.) Since any battery I get is going to lose about 5%/year of its capacity (we seem to be doing better than that, but never mind,) it doesn't make a lot of sense to try to upgrade to a 62kWh; it's not as it it'll last longer, it'll just go farther on a charge and cost three times as much. With a floor jack, stands, and an afternoon, I can slap a 24, 30, or even a 40kWh battery in myself for the cost of the battery alone. As fantastic as I think this AMO battery/cooling solution is, it may not be the right solution for us when considered against cost. Just getting the *newest* Leaf battery we can find might be a better solution, and we can afford to wait a few years for that.
I wish the price were more like 10k instead of 20k. Since leafs that need the replacement are usually 10k. Im in auckland. Do you have someone fitting your products here or just christchurch?
Really interested in this - will you guys go through the process of getting this system approved by Tüv, or similar, in Europe? Battery upgrades are considered illegal in Norway since Nissan won't approve to the fact that new batteries fit older cars, so the battery needs to be approved for aftermarket fitting.
Any new news to share? While I am quite certain that your team is working to get this to market there are LEAF owners around the world waiting to hear something, anything from your company.
Will this battery pack and pump system be universal to all right and left handed Leafs? Very much interested for a battery pack to be installed here in Toronto Canada as we have more winter than summer and temperatures can dip to as low as -30 (inc windchill) and also we have 110v as our main power and not too many chargers on the road to recharge when needed
Looking forward to the final product. Nice to see the Leaf finally getting a long life replacement battery to keep these cars out of dumps. As CHAdeMO is somewhat going away slowly in the UK and USA perhaps a CCS upgrade kit should be a followup product? Keep CHAdeMO and add CCS in place of the existing J1772 connector. There is someone working on that now. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i-PCe-cD5d4.html As for audio, try a few pairs of bluetooth earphones. You don't need a fancy mic, but this should improve audio.
A brilliant solution to defective engineering of the Nissan Leaf!. Don't buy any Nissan Leaf if you intend to fast charge them! Nissan were remiss in not including a thermal management system in their models! My 2019 Nissan Leaf had multiple battery failures after 110k and 90k kilometres because of this manufacturing defect.
Nice replacement battery but economics will defeat the idea. Most people wouldn't spend £9500 on a new battery when they can spend £25000 on a whole new MG4 or something similar with a larger battery. Not only that but people would be more attracted to a new car purchased at an affordable rate on PCP. If the battery was cheaper maybe ?
Hi. Good question. A lot of additional capital to pay for more engineers and larger order quantities would move the project along faster for sure. However, we're reluctant to take on a lot of debt in the current financial environment, not do we want to take deposits from customers or seek crowdfunding until we've reached a bunch of internal milestones. The last thing that we want to do is to take money from fellow LEAF owners and then be unable to deliver, so we're just trying to be sure that this risk is minimised before going down this path. Major milestones are being reached and passed each week now, but we've still got some more to tick off.
Is there also an option for the user to heat up the battery pack to the desired themperatur 15 minutes (or whatever the optimal time is for that) befor driving?
As far as the liquid is concerned, yes (I work at M&I Materials). We talk about immersion cooling, but as a term, it's ever so slightly misleading simply because the main purpose is thermal management, and not just cooling. See the part from 07:47 onwards about heated MIVOLT.
Too bad that there is no plan to support 62kwh battery. I will be watching for subsequent updates if this changes and it’s availability in Boston area. It’s a shame there is no similar business development in the US northeast. I’m pretty sure there is a market for it if someone decides to take it up.
they need to start pioneering the product with something. surely once they standarize work and frameworks for migration of components is achieved there will be no limit in kwh swaps
great job NZ excellence ! will be looking forward to put one in our ENV200 .. 0n of the 53 in the country that ned longer range .. watt was the KWH in these new packs ? are you in need of employees ? Im a machinist from Michigan but would sweep floor to get into this area
@@EVsEnhanced good afternoon! can you design lbs for 4s10p or 5s10p LTO battery (16 pieces). voltage 272-416V, per cell min 1.7V max 2.6V. The climate in Kazakhstan is harsh! The temperature ranges from -40 to + 40 C. LTO batteries are more suitable for our climate.
@@handrogo4494 I think you mean 16 modules that are 10S to get to that pack voltage. We considered LTO at the start of our project and it certainly has some very impressive aspects, but the energy density is much lower of course. Yes, doing a custom LBC/BMS for this is possible if you want to build hundreds or thousands of these packs, but it is a big undertaking and would not be viable for a one-off project.
They already produce a pairing tool for swapping batteries, I'm sure this won't be a problem. The bigger problem is probably how to use 3.2V LFP cells in a vehicle designed for 3.7V but that's probably what they're spending such a long time working on.
@@dama054 Hi. Yes it will communicate with the car. We need to get production of 16 Blade green rolling along smoothly before offering support for such things. So keep an eye on our production progress and when we start offering spare parts. When we get to this point then try asking again.
I would give up on it, by the time its released the 40kwh Nissan Leaf will be well under the cost of this battery as current 2018 models are around $25k less the rebate, with them originally saying the battery would be around $20k
@@gregb1599 Curious what rebate you are talking about, is it here in new zealand( where they are) or somewhere else? Never heard of any rebate on a replacement battery here myself, on any forum i read. (nz 40kw owner) thanks.
Wonder if this will show up in USA. Lots of 10 yr old leafs in good shape with dead batteries just sitting. I’m still shocked Nissan never really got into remanufactured battery packs. Guess they just want you to buy new after 5 yrs of use.. 😂
It's great that you're making these advances but this video doesn't really tell us anything. You show comparison charts and give vague details about the improvements with no quantification of exactly how much more efficient these batteries are. What about the price? Will the new thermal management system affect the targeted price? When will they be production ready? When will they be ready overseas? In a few years, larger auto makers will start putting out sub 20k electric vehicles that can far surpass what can be achieved by our old Leafs, both in range and features. I want to support your mission, but you're missing a critical window to bring this product to market. It will soon be far more affordable to just get a newer EV with more modern features and none of the battery issues off the older Leafs.
4 months later still no battery, however you are comparing US prices with a NZ company! Our cheapest EV starts at $NZ$50k and that price is soon going to be $54k and that's for a Chinese 51kwh EV where NZ has a free trade agreement with China so keep dreaming for a $NZ20k EV! They have stated many times they are looking at a cost one third the cost of a brand new 40kwh Nissan Leaf or currently $55,000 for around $18k for the 40kwh battery. Also you will be trading in your old battery pack which will also make the price even cheaper!
