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INTRODUCING THE VALVE TROMBONE! Valve Trombone 101 

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While the valve trombone is an important part of the trombone family, both past and present, it is a member of the family that many folks, musicians and non-musicians alike, are less familiar with. From it's history to how it plays to how to hold it there can be a lot of uncertainty and so we thought that a quick introduction video to this unique instrument might help! Take a listen, (hopefully) learn something new about the valve trombone and let us know what you think!

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@smholgate
@smholgate Год назад
As a professional euphonium and tuba player, I feel like I missed a valve trombone education. Thank you so much for posting and informing me! Excellent stuff.
@AKAFT
@AKAFT Месяц назад
Great video! This explains why some Italian operas have technically difficult licks for trombone, such as the Act I opening notes of Verdi's La Traviata and the ending of Mascagni's Cavalleria Rusticana. They were probably often played on the valve trombone.
@dwerden
@dwerden 7 месяцев назад
What a nice surprise to find a video on valve trombones! Very nice job, Keith!
@TheTromboneChannel
@TheTromboneChannel Год назад
Not even a minute into this video and I can already tell 100x more effort went into this than the others. Good work!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@babeadams9351
@babeadams9351 19 дней назад
I started my music career on a slide trunbone. After learning the valve trombone I progress to all other brass instruments that had valves, Base cliff and trouble. Cliff. Turn out to be an easy scholarship for college
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
I know why alot of orchestras switched back to slide trombone, the intonation on the valve trombone wasn't really in tune. This was way before they added valve triggers to the 1st and 3rd valve slides to help improve the intonation.
@Bayan1905
@Bayan1905 2 месяца назад
My son has been playing in band for several years and tried a couple different instruments until he found the slide trombone and he really likes playing it.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
The Flugabone is a Marching Variant of that instrument wrapped like a Flugelhorn. It reminds me of the great Juan Tizol who played with Duke Ellington
@Mando98
@Mando98 Год назад
As a former baritone/euphonium player from my highschool and early college days (even a season of DCI), I've been intrigued by this instrument bc I noticed they use it a lot in banda and I'd love to buy one eventually. The only problem seems to be that all my mouthpieces are large shank and these seem to only be small shank if I'm not mistaken??:/ Thank you for making this video!!
@mikesosa1146
@mikesosa1146 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the excellent tutorial of the valve trombone. Maybe next you can spend a minute or two on the differences between a regular sized valve trombone and the compact valve trombone. Both keyed to Bb. Thx!!!
@bkraft
@bkraft 5 месяцев назад
I've been playing slide trombone for 35 yrs - and recently learned to play the valve trombone - it's a blast to play - I'm sorry I didn't pay much attention to it years ago.
@bobjacobson858
@bobjacobson858 4 месяца назад
Thanks for this informative video. Although I had heard of the valve trombone long before, I've watched a number of the CCB orchestral videos from Brazil where this instrument seems to use this instrument exclusively. As I had mentioned in one of your other videos on the valve trombone, now I know how to hold my 1916 Conn 4-G. (With a little luck, I'll eventually find the best way to hold my Conn 16-E mellophonium (perhaps there ISN'T a standard way for this one!).
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 8 месяцев назад
Slide triggers for the 1st and 3rd valves would allow the valve trombone to play in tune.
@CrystalAlyse
@CrystalAlyse 6 месяцев назад
For those who used the slide, what are the valve positions if we want to learn?
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 5 месяцев назад
​@@CrystalAlyse each of the 7 slide positions has a matching valve combination on trumpet, French horn, tuba, Baritone horn, and even valve trombone.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 2 месяца назад
@@CrystalAlyse 1st Position = Open 2nd Position = 2nd Valve 3rd Position = 1st Valve 4th Position = 1st & 2nd Valves 5th Position = 2nd & 3rd Valves 6th Position = 1st & 3rd Valves 7th Position = 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Valves
@jaywilkoff9413
@jaywilkoff9413 Год назад
Great video! I had a chance to play a Blessing Valve trombone about 10 years ago. It reminds me of playing a barbitone.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
We've had a few of the Blessing valve trombones come through the shop and I really enjoyed how they played (I tried to do a video with one but the audio glitched on me!) Thanks for watching!
@georgeschaut2178
@georgeschaut2178 Год назад
Great video...I actually hadn't seen a valve trombone being played until a few years back on the beaches in Rio de Janeiro!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Very cool; from my understanding it is quite a bit more prevalent in Latin America...
@danielnewman134
@danielnewman134 Год назад
Very informative. I learned a good amount in a short time. Thanks.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 3 месяца назад
I used to play valve trombone back in high school marching band when the baritone horn got to be too heavy to carry around during summer parades.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop 3 месяца назад
There are certainly some differences in the ergonomics between the two instruments :-) thanks for watching!
@timothytikker1147
@timothytikker1147 5 месяцев назад
One regional tradition that uses the valve trombone is the sardana cobla. It's an 11-piece orchestra that accompanies the sardana, the national dance of Catalonia. This ensemble uses one valve trombone alongside two trumpets and two C bass Flügelhorns.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing!
@Cysubtor_8vb
@Cysubtor_8vb Год назад
As a tuba and euphonium player, I occasionally ponder adding a valve trombone and have even seen valved alto trombone, which would be interesting.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Thanks for the input! I didn't even get into alto valve trombone as it is such a small subset of an already small category but it is a very interesting concept (and something that I would love to play someday!)
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
These are also common in Tejano & Conjunto Music.
@erniearruda8861
@erniearruda8861 Год назад
That’s the instrument I started on when I joined the Portuguese community band 37 years ago here in Canada 🇨🇦 for marching and there role was more for boom chucking in our style of music, and easier to March with and to learn the fingering patterns across the board. Music was written in all treble clef. What’s funny now is the European bands especially Portuguese are using slide trombones more now and kinda disbanded the valve due to younger players playing in different groups and better full sound that you don’t get with a valve trombone.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Thanks for all of the great insight!
@boneman751
@boneman751 Год назад
great vid.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 8 месяцев назад
Juan Tizol played Valve Trombone
@ChrisJones-ij3xp
@ChrisJones-ij3xp 7 дней назад
He was probably the most famous valve trombonist. Rob McConnell was pretty well-known too.
@rosshawdeepinside
@rosshawdeepinside Год назад
Could you demonstrate the alto Eb valve trombone?
@kenrup
@kenrup Год назад
In the '70's and '80's valve trombones where on the inventory roles for Army Bands. That way a euphonium player could help out in a stage band in a pinch.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
I feel like I talk to a lot of players from that era that played more valve trombone; not so much now, which is too bad!
@Rob-oj9bj
@Rob-oj9bj Год назад
I'm a new player and having difficulty finding a position where it feels like there's "room" for me in between the bell section and the valves section - every time I play I feel like I am crammed in and the tubing is pressing sideways into the left side of my neck... Does anyone have any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
@joseayala-zg5fm
@joseayala-zg5fm 10 месяцев назад
Hi,Ive played alto tenor an baritone saxophones for 18 months every day .Will I have ahard time ajusting to a valve trombone an which trombone is the bset to start with
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
Miraphone makes Valve Trombones with Rotary Valves
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
Actually you can also use Valve Trombones in Marching Band too cause you don't have to worry about breaking your slide.
@Ruigekerel
@Ruigekerel Год назад
You don't care about tuning in marching band? These valve trombones are very, very out of tune.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
@@Ruigekerel They worked around this issue by adding spring loaded tuning slide triggers.
@Ruigekerel
@Ruigekerel Год назад
@@RockStarOscarStern634 no tuning slide triggers offer enough leverage to add the necesarry centimeters needed to get the low notes in tune.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
@@Ruigekerel Wait a minute he made Special Slide Triggers for them:ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rw4hr1-4Bic.html to make it work
@CrystalAlyse
@CrystalAlyse 6 месяцев назад
Break the slide?? No one I ever marched with hit or broke their slide. You bend your bell upwards and hit no one or nothing. Never heard this as a reason before. Sounds like something the last generation went through 😂😂😂.
@paultandberg3948
@paultandberg3948 Год назад
I wish you had played it a little... demonstrate what it offers and what it loses.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
A good point (I realized my omission after the video was done...) Fortunately I do have a few other valve trombone videos on our channel (with another hopefully coming soon) and perhaps I'll have to do a Valve Trombone 202 talking about the sound/playing experience...thanks for watching!
@paultandberg3948
@paultandberg3948 Год назад
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop I feel a little like the kid who complained there was no gumdrop included with his gallon of free ice cream. I love your videos... and your contagious enthusiasm for the trombone (and music in general). Thank you!
@BANDLDR
@BANDLDR Год назад
I bought my Conn valve trombone from my neighbor for $100. I paid about $200 to have it cleaned up and adjusted and it was ready to go. I definitely prefer standard slide trombone, but the valved instrument is kind of a fun novelty.
@derrickwhite6084
@derrickwhite6084 Год назад
Are you interested in selling the valve section?
@BANDLDR
@BANDLDR Год назад
@@derrickwhite6084 No. I keep it at the school where I teach and make it available to students who are euphonium players interested in jazz band, but not willing to learn slide trombone.
@ogstv8778
@ogstv8778 5 месяцев назад
I have one of that yamaha valve trombone. 1. Is that yamaha valve trombone is key of Bb? 2 is yamaha slide trombone and Yamaha valve trombone are the Same sounds? Thank you in advance.
@Kalamboonga69
@Kalamboonga69 Год назад
What are some good buy cheap beginner valve trombones that I can buy?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
While there are very inexpensive, models available on the market in my experience, they are passable at the fast and extremely frustrating at worst. Value for money the most affordable valve Trombone that I trust is the Jupiter JTB700V; they are very well-made, have great valves, and have a great sound and response for the price, around $1500 USD.
@lethiapage4767
@lethiapage4767 Год назад
These weird instruments fascinate me. Is this interchangeable with a slide trombone in an orchestra? And does it play similarly to other 3 button instruments in the brass family? For ex a lot of fingerings in trumpet translate to the French horn. Same same here?
@Rob-oj9bj
@Rob-oj9bj Год назад
Whether or not it's interchangeable depends on the music you're playing and how particular the writer was. (are there glisses that require the smooth slide motion? Did the composer have a particular sound in mind or just write "low brass" parts? The sound is similar to a Trombone or baritone, as opposed to the Euphonium or French horn.) The fingerings are basically the same, at least until you exceed the normal range and have to figure out what's best for your specific instrument anyway.
@vicdickenson3869
@vicdickenson3869 Год назад
Are there good v trombones being made today or is is better to find and old Conn?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
A good question! While Yamaha, King, Bach and Jupiter all make valve trombones (falling between intermediate and professional in playing/response/quality) I'm not sure any of them match a good vintage Conn. With the shift in playing needs I don't think there has been the same attention on developing valve trombones as with slide options...
@jackjohn6754
@jackjohn6754 11 месяцев назад
where do i buy i valves trombone in the us
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop 10 месяцев назад
Specialty brass shops may have valve trombone options in stock; for example, we have the Jupiter JTB700V in our shop at the moment (IMHO the best valve trombone option at it's price range). Do you have a particular maker/design/price range in mind?
@itznoxy7193
@itznoxy7193 Год назад
Can it also slide or just valve?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
It just has valves! There was a valve/slide trombone combination called the Superbone in the 1970s-80s but it was fairly impractical…
@jjschm20
@jjschm20 Год назад
How common is the valve trombone nowadays? I imagine it’s only in a tiny fraction of performances.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
Many middle/high schools have valve trombones for euphonium/tuba players who want to play in jazz ensemble and there are certainly many players who use it as a double in jazz and other settings (not to mention all of the great Latin American/European/Asian regional traditions practiced in the US); with that said I think the percentage is still very small as compared to slide options...
@charlyramirez3685
@charlyramirez3685 Год назад
Quite common In mexican bands
@Juan_Bone09
@Juan_Bone09 Год назад
once I saw one with 4 valves
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Год назад
They are somewhat rare but certainly around! Thanks for watching!
@Juan_Bone09
@Juan_Bone09 Год назад
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop and i saw one with 5
@MOCHOLENCHO
@MOCHOLENCHO Год назад
The Sinaloa (México) banda has german origins.
@marcuslucas6260
@marcuslucas6260 Год назад
𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘮 😑
@MexicanCrusader
@MexicanCrusader Год назад
Peso pluma trumpbone
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