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Introducing the Viennese Bass 

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Bass player Margaret Urquhart explains how the Viennese bass differs from the regular period bass.
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@Symphing12
@Symphing12 Год назад
I play this type of instrument. It's very fun and great for chords and all the 18th century concerto repertoire!
@JustFiddler
@JustFiddler Год назад
i see. amazing!
@iamthe7nationarmy788
@iamthe7nationarmy788 Год назад
Woaaah where do u get one!!
@Symphing12
@Symphing12 Год назад
@@iamthe7nationarmy788 you can convert a 5-string bass pretty easily. There are also makers who make replicas of older instruments.
@Capuzzi09
@Capuzzi09 Год назад
True. Playing Dittersdorf with that tuning is way less exhausting than playing it with modern high pitch quart tuning.
@blopartDGRI
@blopartDGRI 5 месяцев назад
Hello, I've been experimenting with alternative tunings myself, ¿what might you think of a D G Bb D G tuning ? (Inverted Gmin chord, no 5th on low but a 4th, no diminished 9th but perfect octaves on a 3-string interval, and still those interesting 3rds for chords and arepeggios. The minor triad being able to transform easily to major by an addition, and maybe sounding more fit ting to the bass register)
@whoneedsanation
@whoneedsanation 11 месяцев назад
man that smile you can tell she loves this stuff
@eightfifty2309
@eightfifty2309 Год назад
5 string low tuned? So can I play Cannibal Corpse hammer smashed face on that thing?
@IAMMASONDAVIDSONGOBIN
@IAMMASONDAVIDSONGOBIN 11 месяцев назад
Lmao bro
@orfeo793
@orfeo793 11 месяцев назад
I mean Hammer Smashed Face is only in D# tuning lol, so yeah
@eightfifty2309
@eightfifty2309 11 месяцев назад
@@orfeo793 lol they need to let Alex Webster play that song on that then!
@orfeo793
@orfeo793 11 месяцев назад
@@eightfifty2309 I would love a fully acoustic cannibal corpse cover band with an upright bass at least lol
@fractuss
@fractuss 10 месяцев назад
I mean... you CAN but should you.
@juliegill6278
@juliegill6278 11 месяцев назад
It's got such a LOVELY RICH mellow sound!!!!
@robertkarpay2699
@robertkarpay2699 7 месяцев назад
Lovvvve the reedy fret sound 😌
@robaxl3088
@robaxl3088 11 месяцев назад
It went from A to F#…I love it! I’m a guitarist , a couple of my favorites are CADFAD and DADGBE
@pedrogandia5408
@pedrogandia5408 9 месяцев назад
Always fantastic, Maggie
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Год назад
+OrchestraEnlighten *Thanks for the briefing on the Violone.*
@dr.chrisketo7193
@dr.chrisketo7193 7 месяцев назад
Super! Danke!
@derfux979
@derfux979 Год назад
Is there a whole video about it?☺️
@capzisediam5845
@capzisediam5845 11 месяцев назад
instantly got the same question in my mind
@joshlawrence8091
@joshlawrence8091 6 месяцев назад
yup there needs to be a whole video about this!
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 Год назад
Thanks for that. I’ll be building an EUB and was considering fretting it. Yes please.
@BeesKneesBenjamin
@BeesKneesBenjamin Год назад
Get an electric bass at that point hahaha. It's got the same functionality but it's easier to carry and easier to play XD
@NBrixH
@NBrixH Год назад
@@BeesKneesBenjaminalso probably a lot cheaper
@stallionstudios
@stallionstudios Год назад
You should ask to lick her toes as well. Ask her to paint then a certain color.
@garysloan9793
@garysloan9793 Год назад
​@@BeesKneesBenjaminwell the curved bridge is essential for bowing which I think OP was getting at
@val3n_v0x
@val3n_v0x 9 месяцев назад
I was playing a bass in 6th grade, I would always make creepy sounds or play music from horror movies/games 😭
@williamstephenjackson6420
@williamstephenjackson6420 11 месяцев назад
For one accustomed to the more traditional tuning, I can imagine this taking extraordinary concentration to play.
@Ratguitar58
@Ratguitar58 11 месяцев назад
A 5 string double bass ❤ Sweet
@user-uy1ug7pp1l
@user-uy1ug7pp1l 5 месяцев назад
Because double bass is too much big
@MichaelBakrnchev1989
@MichaelBakrnchev1989 Год назад
That is fascinating!
@79_Au.
@79_Au. Год назад
I notice the shape is much more like a violin, whereas the double bass is shaped more like a viol.
@ericoschmitt
@ericoschmitt Год назад
That's just the model/make, not specific to viennese. That only regards tuning, there are many basses that look like that in other tunings.
@andreashoppe1969
@andreashoppe1969 Год назад
I played a fredded baroque bass sometimes. It's fun but gutt strings need constant tuning and tuning takes lots of time!
@adriellightvale8140
@adriellightvale8140 Год назад
Slap it.
@YAMMAS
@YAMMAS 11 месяцев назад
i was wondering how far id have to scroll to find this comment
@panzade
@panzade 11 месяцев назад
Fascinating!
@hildegerdhaugen7864
@hildegerdhaugen7864 10 месяцев назад
love this
@Philrc
@Philrc Год назад
So how are the frets spaced? Are they adjusted for equal temperament like guitars? And what happens when you play down below the frets? Because I see you only have frets at the top of the fretboard
@oae
@oae Год назад
Answer from Margaret: The frets can easily be adjusted according to whichever temperament the ensemble is using. Equal temperament is just one of many possibilities. Playing higher notes, which are higher than the frets, one either presses the string down onto the fingerboard, as a modern bassist does, or one plays ‘half’ pressing the string, or pulling it slightly to the side (also known as an Italian technique), or when possible one uses harmonics which are a characteristic of Viennese tuning.
@Philrc
@Philrc Год назад
@@oae yes I understand temperaments I know equal temperament is just one of many types of tuning but the point was, which you have answered , whether they were fixed at equal temperament. The viola da Gamba has tied gut frets which can be adjusted. Unlike the Frets on a guitar which are fixed metal frets. The Frets on the video here, I see now, are adjustable gut Frets.
@Philrc
@Philrc 9 месяцев назад
So it's tuned to a chord
@TheMusicman-tv8pl
@TheMusicman-tv8pl 11 месяцев назад
Reminds me of mr krinkle by primus
@IAMMASONDAVIDSONGOBIN
@IAMMASONDAVIDSONGOBIN 11 месяцев назад
Omg thats beautiful. I want frets on my stand-up
@SomeoneSomewhere42069
@SomeoneSomewhere42069 Месяц назад
I like the notion that some bass player has played upright their whole lives and genuinely thought "Oh man, yea! What DO these.. phurets do?"
@garfd2
@garfd2 11 месяцев назад
I was wondering if there was gonna be an E after that open D 🙂
@blopartDGRI
@blopartDGRI 5 месяцев назад
Hello, I've been experimenting with alternative tunings myself, ¿what might you think of a D G Bb D G tuning ? (Inverted Gmin chord, no 5th on low but a 4th, no diminished 9th but perfect octaves on a 3-string interval, and still those interesting 3rds for chords and arepeggios. The minor triad being able to transform easily to major by an addition, and maybe sounding more fit ting to the bass register)
@sashakindel3600
@sashakindel3600 Год назад
An F and an F# in the same tuning is pretty strange.
@TheCreate78
@TheCreate78 11 месяцев назад
Her bass is tuned in A415
@phineas1117
@phineas1117 11 месяцев назад
@@TheCreate78I think that’s an A=432hz
@HenrikBergpianorganist
@HenrikBergpianorganist 10 месяцев назад
Very strange indeed.
@codascheuer8426
@codascheuer8426 2 месяца назад
@@TheCreate78 how does that change anything lol. Also it’s not
@oscarsantos2608
@oscarsantos2608 Год назад
Yeah 👍😊
@SpitfireRoad
@SpitfireRoad Год назад
@Thindoublechin
@Thindoublechin 11 месяцев назад
This would be a mean upright for jazz.
@shupesmerga4694
@shupesmerga4694 5 месяцев назад
I thought she's gonna play the bass line of canon in D all on open strings
@JustFiddler
@JustFiddler Год назад
matur suksma
@limethefemboy5205
@limethefemboy5205 Год назад
Like a Violone, I like it, I did die inside when I saw the gut frets as I know how horrible they can be. I play Theorbo, baroque guitar and Vihuela and the gut frets have to be the worst thing about baroque and renaissance era plucked string instruments
@ruanpingshan
@ruanpingshan Год назад
I'm curious, what's so bad about gut frets?
@CourtWatchAu
@CourtWatchAu 11 месяцев назад
Frets make a lot more sense, I think beginner violin and cello players should have frets too. Then you can get playing in tune a lot quicker, like a guitar
@phineas1117
@phineas1117 11 месяцев назад
Violin, viola and cello teachers will put stickers on the neck for beginners
@phineas1117
@phineas1117 11 месяцев назад
The fretted violin can disturb you from playing it because the frets will be too compacted
@CourtWatchAu
@CourtWatchAu 11 месяцев назад
@@phineas1117 oh ok, it just seems if people learnty teh bowing adn they had some basic finger skills the vilin would be more accesable (liek playing an acoutisc guitar or ukele)) if they had frets, at least frets in the first 5 or 7 notes on each string maybe ?
@phineas1117
@phineas1117 6 месяцев назад
@@CourtWatchAuI think that might be fine because a viola da gamba also have 7 frets only
@CourtWatchAu
@CourtWatchAu 6 месяцев назад
@@phineas1117 ok yeah, I think its a good way to start
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Год назад
✌️
@handsfree1000
@handsfree1000 11 месяцев назад
Would you be allowed to play it with others say in an orchestra?
@liamwatson5125
@liamwatson5125 27 дней назад
This must be the bass that Paul Chambers played. Listen to that bowed sound.
@xeakpress2718
@xeakpress2718 11 месяцев назад
Bruh I knew Hayden and motzart were dogs, but them boys playing in Drop D
@manelbass1
@manelbass1 5 месяцев назад
Hello, are the Frets ribons?
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 Год назад
Thirds do make a lot of sense if you want to play chords, I guess.
@CriticalofOnions
@CriticalofOnions 11 месяцев назад
I've always wondered why these instruments have like 5 or 7 frets and then go fretless. Is it because they didn't expect or see any need for more frets?
@idraote
@idraote 11 месяцев назад
I might be wrong, but in the XVIII century the double bass was nearly exclusively a low, background instrument (often doubling the cellos, perhaps an octave lower) with no solo parts to speak of. It is therefore quite probable that the higher range was seldomly used.
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat 4 месяца назад
So why don't violin family instruments have frets? Thanks.
@SiltStrider232
@SiltStrider232 11 месяцев назад
With frets ?
@RobertoMartinez-kv5tp
@RobertoMartinez-kv5tp 11 месяцев назад
👍
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 Год назад
When she says "it is more of a gamba" then I think, sure, where do you think the double bass tuning comes from? It is part of the gamba family. That's what I remember, it explains why these things are different from bass guitars. Sure, there are strings, some have frets, some are fretless, that is similar. But the number of strings, and the intervals between the strings are usually very different, comparing the violin and guitar bass instruments. Think about the implications while playing. Having a 4 string or a 5 string bass is not "just one extra string", you get new positions where you can play a lot of tones, and you need to learn using them. I guess the double bass and this Vienna bass have similar implications for how you play them. There are no simple differences, think about the circle of quints, an alternative tuning has effects on how to play in the several existing keys.
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Год назад
@voornaam3191 *The Violone, **_Viola da Gamba_** and **_Viola d'Amore_** are scaled for their respective pitch ranges.*
@thephantomeagle2
@thephantomeagle2 3 месяца назад
Love Baroque strings.
@phineas1117
@phineas1117 Месяц назад
Technically it should be early classical
@thephantomeagle2
@thephantomeagle2 Месяц назад
@@phineas1117 The bow, though, seems more Baroque.
@phineas1117
@phineas1117 Месяц назад
@@thephantomeagle2 In the classical period and romantic period, there was no standard requirement about the use of bow. People can use whatever bow they have
@jerryrobbins5013
@jerryrobbins5013 11 месяцев назад
as an upright player, that weirds me out :)
@vibratingstring
@vibratingstring 10 месяцев назад
I see an EPIC bass battle with Davie504 and Charles Berthoud coming soon
@lsptnjpm
@lsptnjpm 11 месяцев назад
That's hot.
@scottbattaglia8595
@scottbattaglia8595 21 день назад
That's fretted? Why?
@feelashome8142
@feelashome8142 11 месяцев назад
Viennese bass is a double bass but 5 string
@joshuataylor9385
@joshuataylor9385 Год назад
Babe alert! She fine!!
@Facu_Roldan
@Facu_Roldan Год назад
Definitely
@homerohomero5563
@homerohomero5563 Год назад
Wait, what about the bow you're using?!?!
@wilhelmorangenbaum2
@wilhelmorangenbaum2 Год назад
It's a classical bow, sort of. Bows back then were more arched and althought by the classical period violin bows were already starting to look more like modern bows this development took some time to affect Contrabasses.
@delbertmiller125
@delbertmiller125 Месяц назад
so a bass/cello?
@erikthenorviking8251
@erikthenorviking8251 3 месяца назад
Such a shame Haydn's DB Concerto went awol...
@bop7745
@bop7745 Год назад
Frets!?
@MarcoVenustus
@MarcoVenustus 11 месяцев назад
I think those frets are very sacrilegious
@zelayaelijah
@zelayaelijah Год назад
Is the bass a part of the gamba family?
@garysloan9793
@garysloan9793 Год назад
Yes, as opposed to the other orchestral strongs from the violón family. Convergent evolution, everything is evolving into crabs eventually
@mathquik1872
@mathquik1872 9 месяцев назад
F but why did you not tune it to 432 geeee butterfinger no bread no noodles 😅
@alexchudilovski860
@alexchudilovski860 11 месяцев назад
Unusual??? It's so pronounce! It's like the note says its name.
@gailukatch402
@gailukatch402 Год назад
Sorry but these basses always sound terrible to me lol Might be the gut strings, might be the different bow, might be the frets, maybe it's the way the whole instrument is built. It's just the epitome of the sound I try to avoid
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ Год назад
oh look that's the sacrilegious bass
@mattfisher8568
@mattfisher8568 11 месяцев назад
Rad
@afterimage289
@afterimage289 Год назад
When were the frets added? I'm assuming it's not original to the instrument
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 Год назад
Why? The use of frets predates this bass.
@oae
@oae Год назад
Answer from Margaret: Frets are made of gut, and wear out quickly, so they are part of the ‘fittings’ of a bass, as strings are, and are replaced frequently.
@TheHesseJames
@TheHesseJames Год назад
@@oaelike some predecessors of today‘s guitar.
@Skrillful
@Skrillful 11 месяцев назад
Play Metallica on it
@viola_ti_do4291
@viola_ti_do4291 Год назад
Open f on the bottom🤢🤮
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