Investigating Mediums with Julie Beischel

New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove

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Julie Beischel, PhD, is the co-founder and Director of Research at the Windbridge Research Center, a nonprofit dedicated to performing rigorous scientific research and creating educational materials on the topics of dying, death, and what comes next. She received her doctorate in Pharmacology and Toxicology with a minor in Microbiology and Immunology. She is author of Investigating Mediums. Her website is www.windbridge.org/.
Here she describes her research approach, working with mediums whom she treats as partners in her investigations. She discusses her quintuple-blind protocols that have provided clear evidence that mediums are able to provide information regarding deceased persons about whom they had no previous knowledge. She also refers to many interpersonal factors involved in studying mediums. Additionally she discusses physiological factors.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is past-vice-president of the Association for Humanistic Psychology, and is the recipient of the Pathfinder Award from that association for his contributions to the study of consciousness.
(Recorded on December 12, 2018)
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@NewThinkingAllowed 5 лет назад

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@LaughingStock71 5 лет назад

It took Julie's book, Among Mediums, plus one of her more recent papers to open me up for the topic of mediumship as a valid topic of parapsychology. I think there aren't many who are so rigorous in applying the scientific method like her (5-fold blinding!), while at the same time being enormously courageous (mediumship research for more than a decade!) and having so very little monetary resources for her research (she writes about this in her book). I'm happy to finally see her being interviewed by Jeff, she was on my wish list for a long time. Btw, she has also an invited chapter in Leslie Kean's book "Surviving Death", where her topic is nicely presented in a way larger context. ... Ah, and Leslie Kean is, of course, also on my wish list, Dear Jeff! :-)

@peggyharris3815 5 лет назад

I wasn't aware of Leslie Kean. Thanks to you, I started looking at her interviews. Very interesting. (You never know what gems the comment section can uncover.)

@mortalclown3812 5 лет назад

@@peggyharris3815 Although I knew about many of the cases presented in her book on UFOs, it was still impressed with her writing about such an incendiary topic. And I feel the same way about the comment section here.

@jimhale8967 3 года назад

Wow ain't this Reality Study Stuff just somethin' else? Thanks! Jim

@infinite54 5 лет назад

You mentioned mediums knowing a disincarnate loved one is near, by a sense of prescience. We do not talk much about claire sentience or the ability to feel someone's essence. It is like a smell or a flavor but there is no known sense this aligns to. I am claire sentient. My experience is that every person has an field around them that seems to carry the essence of they are. My best example was a minister I met who felt to me like a used car-saleman. I always put these experiences on an inner shelf termed "interesting but unvalidated." Much later, he proved to be unethical, substantiating the feelings I initially had. I understand what the mediums are sensing. It is not telepathy, the reading of minds but is more similar to the reading of hearts. I have had visits from several friends who have died. I feel their unique prescience near me. One message taken from these experiences: be careful of what you lean into ( despair, envy, deceit vs kindness, compassion, forgiveness). It becomes part of who you take with you.

@MasinaTai86 5 лет назад

Do you know anything about healing and how to know whose legit? Why sage for example, does it really have to be sage or is it more the thoughts/ energy/ association put on the sage? If you feel better than you did.. Is that enough? I can't help but feel a bit weirded out when ppl start talking about seeing auras and angels. I'm not religious but am not against the idea of Jesus.. maybe even angels too but then there's spirits ghosts demons... There's a lot of this stuff that may as well be unicorns and mermaids at times.. maybe it's my bias. I am intuitive and do believe others have a legitimate gift however because of frauds, religion and stories etc it's hard to know what to take srsly.

@brianlunsford5512 5 лет назад

Wonderful interview!! Thank you!! Love and light to all!!!

@PamAlexanderBlackwood Месяц назад

Excellent interview with Julie Beichel. Thoughtful Q's!

@butterflymagicwithhottea9291 5 лет назад

LOVE THIS INTERVIEW! More on mediumship please. I must buy her book. Your interviews really shape my amazon book purchases, Jeffrey. Thank you for the work you do on this channel. It's my absolute fave.

@LaughingStock71 5 лет назад

Get her book "Investigating Mediums", which is a composition of all the books that she has separately published in the past, including "Among Mediums": www.amazon.com/Investigating-Mediums-Windbridge-Institute-Collection/dp/1320398030/

@butterflymagicwithhottea9291 5 лет назад

Sweet

@Xscott1000 5 лет назад

Really great thank you! I am loving the scientifically rational approach to these subjects.

@stellaa.attakpah653 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing this interesting interview.

@AineEithne 5 лет назад

Great interview, Dr. M 😎. Time just sped by and that's when you KNOW it's good. It felt like we were just scratching the surface and I wanted to learn more. You provided some great, fresh ideas and questions for the researcher to chew on in the future too. This was fascinating to me as I didn't really know what a medium is and what they do. Never heard of a spirit guide either, so it was a great education too into an area of parapsychology that I have precious little info on. It's great to learn here where I just can't find good, scientific-minded info elsewhere. Absolutely fascinating - Thank you 🦋

@MasinaTai86 5 лет назад

I love her, she's truly a treasure because she's open yet still using critical thinking. She has a good balance in her attitude and approach and I'm probably being sexist but I really believe it's because she's a woman that's why she's coming at it from a more all encompassing and genuine approach.

@joanchaffinbawcom5722 5 лет назад

Thanks so much for your treasure chest channel. I have learned so much since finding it. Happy New Year!

@Xscott1000 5 лет назад

Thank you also for the inclusion of the meaningful messages cards. As an avid Tarot and Oracle deck collector this will be an exciting addition that I would have not likely known of otherwise.

@kirbycoe4293 5 лет назад

Sharing this on my Facebook wall. This is a very interesting and important topic.

@auntieyoda9378 5 лет назад

THAT was fascinating. Thank you, Dr. Mishlove.

@carloscssr 5 лет назад

Your interviews are amazing. Wonderful topics, great hosts, and as an interviewer you are very good. Spot on. Thank you for the work you do, and for bringing a little bit more light into this world. Which is nothing more than an experience for souls. Love and Light.

@alaintavakoli4573 5 лет назад

Jeffrey thank you sir 💓

@marymcgonigal9087 5 лет назад

A very interesting, thought-provoking interview. I wish more ‘scientists’ would investigate scientifically those aspects of life in the world we live in that we don’t know enough about, instead of starting from an a priori stance of what they believe ‘exists’ and what does not.

@jamesdouglas2312 5 лет назад

Jeffery You are looking good and doing an amazing interview, with all and with us. Thank You!

@RodCornholio 5 лет назад

Strongly support this research. Look forward to the FMRI results.

@seanparnelleverett 5 лет назад

Jeffery, Thumbs up as allways. I have a request for future interviews. Could you try and ask some of your guests to " describe " some landmarks in whatever psi subject your doing. As in asking the guest to give a visual / audio landscape type description of the task at hand. Such as In this Interview I'd be thinking " what do the mediums communicate with ". Is it a auditory com. Is it a visual com. What are the sounds like. What are the visuals like. Are the comms in the physical, non physical or both. Thumbs Up !

@PrinceCharmingsMom2930 5 лет назад

Great interview!

@martinwilliams9866 11 месяцев назад

Have you looked into capacitive & phononic resonance changes when people form a circle & touch each other, I predict an increase in parasympathetic activity & Theta waves. In order to see ghosts I suggest using night goggles, & the photonic pumping of Dark/Black Light combined, based on the possibility that some of those invisible photons will change into visible ones through interacting with the "entity". The trauma in childhood causes a dissociative defense mechanism. With good hypnotic subjects it's found that their parents argued more than average, & the child learned to use imagination to create a stabilising alternate reality. You might find "Chacterological Transformation" by Stephen M. Johnson interesting.

@Ruza329 3 года назад

Yes please Julie do treat the Mediums like people as THEY ARE PEOPLE. You do not have to keep them at arms length away if you wish to learn something from them and about them. But yes, they are people and treat them as such please.

@sonedeogeehtsne8280 5 лет назад

WELL DONE!

@MrGordon121 5 лет назад

hope don't mind I shared on my dedicated FB page spiritual medium gordon ellison, Fort Erie Ontario Canada

@qooguy 4 года назад

In my experience... spirits linked to deceased people that did not "pass" on and are contacted while they are "stuck" here remain "choice makers" and are capable of "moving on" to "where they need to go (or choose not to)." However, contact with spirits linked to people who have successfully passed and then contacted seem more like perfect representations of the person being sought that are then "played" by a "Larger Consciousness System" to give whatever message is required. The main difference seems to be the dead that did not pass are still learning and making choices in their disembodied state, whereas the dead "from beyond" are just "data files" that will perfectly reproduce the person you want, but they do not make new choices.

@benbishop1131 5 лет назад

I always thought of mediums and channelers as the same kind of thing. I'm not sure if there is much of a difference between talking to the dead and talking to or talking for entities. Many of these entities will say they are 'dead' in our terms. Seems like it would be hard to draw a line anywhere.

@PrinceCharmingsMom2930 5 лет назад

Ben Bishop I believe we don’t die. Our souls cross over to the spirit world which is another dimension referred to as heaven. Not up in the sky but next to us.

@benbishop1131 5 лет назад

@@PrinceCharmingsMom2930Completely agree with you.

@ArizonaWillful 3 года назад

No one really has any idea who is speaking to or through them. There are a lot of lower astral tricksters who are happy to take on any persona expected. I urge people to buy THE SIREN CALL OF HUNGRY GHOSTS by Joe Fischer where he describes his addiction to mediumship and what happened when he tried to verify the statements made to him. They claimed to have been close friends and lovers in a past life. When he traveled overseas to verify their statements, he found out they were lying. He confronted the entities and they turned nasty and eventually stopped speaking to him. If you want entities to gas light you, go for it. But you honestly can never be truly sure who/what you are speaking to.

@benbishop1131 3 года назад

@@ArizonaWillful I know what you mean. I assume feeling your way into the situation is the best way. The more honest you are with yourself the easier it will be to feel manipulation. The entities are either "life giving" or not.

@tonystephen6312 2 года назад

5:15 that could be just intention based PSI on reality - aka synchronicity/the law.

@Sarah-xn5gr 11 месяцев назад

I was always taught that there is a difference between psychic (remote viewing for example) & mediumship is that they are both separate things. Psychic comes from the individual where mediumship obviously comes from spirit. But both are totally separate. Everyone is psychic but not everyone has mediumistic abilities. If that makes sense???

@clarekuehn4372 5 лет назад

What are the differences and similarities between Schwartz's research methods and findings and your own?

@clarekuehn4372 5 лет назад

Lovely information! Question: because mediums usually cannot call up whom they wish to speak with, could some of the inaccurate phenomena be from there being not a natural connection in some cases (because your mediums are supposed to connect with one name)? That is, could another spirit be supposedly wishing to connect? I think that would be interesting to test for.

@marinaferreira4449 Год назад

When are we going to have a program with Sonia Rinaldi?

@kennethassemiASTRO 4 года назад

I wonder if she has looked into the "Medical Medium" Anthony William.

@MrGordon121 5 лет назад

Mediums Receive and Psychics Perceive. Much difference between the two in communication. Evidential information is utmost important and as my friend Lisa once said. It's un-Googled information.

@mortalclown3812 5 лет назад

Terrific post!

@NotAnAngryLesbian 5 лет назад

And rarely is it relayed in just one way.

@LaughingStock71 5 лет назад

I wonder whether there are mediums who aren't also talented psychics at the same time. Or put somewhat differently, I wonder whether the mediumistic "signal" (whatever it is that mediums receive) is so strong that the subtle levels of awareness needed for psychic functioning (whatever it is that psychics perceive) aren't really necessary.

@dennydombrower7259 5 лет назад

I wonder what Julie’s personal opinion is on the reality of medium

@LaughingStock71 5 лет назад

In her book "Among Mediums" she tells the story how she got into the field. This includes a case (or two?) where she went to a medium to ask her about a personal case, where she tried hard not to produce any hints to the medium but still got some good results. So I assume that she is - cautiously - positive about the reality of mediums.

@annprince5298 4 года назад

If they can recall what was said, then they are not Mediums. When Mediums demonstrate , they cannot remember twhat theybsay to clients, the information comes so fast that it is impossible to recall. It surprised me when I first began demonstrating .

@MasinaTai86 5 лет назад

I've heard some mediums may be talking to bad energy that can pose as the deceased. Is this true and how do you decipher between the 2. I saw a medium and I feel his reading may have actually been damaging in a way. It left me with a lot more questions.

@MrGordon121 5 лет назад

way to go, Gordon Ellison, my teacher James Van Praagh always taught the same

@fornello123 5 лет назад

did I see this lady on the Thunderbirds

@bernardhughes6959 5 лет назад

Jeffrey, some people believe mediums are actually contacting entities from the lower astral who can produce information relating to the deceased.

@ThePetalbluelite 5 лет назад

Yes i believe that to be true too, whether good or bad, it's a lower spirit in a lower realm.

@PrinceCharmingsMom2930 5 лет назад

I don’t believe it’s from a lower realm. I believe it’s from the soul itself who is in the spirit world.

@heavyglassglass 5 лет назад

Astral is higher density-wise than the physical world

@vicaravitakka2301 5 лет назад

@@PrinceCharmingsMom2930, could be both. There could possibly be lower-level entities who at times "listen in" and manipulate data they pick up from the deceased--and from those who are still on earth.

@mortalclown3812 5 лет назад

Suzanne Giesemann has a remarkable response to this theory - and please forgive that I'm paraphrasing - but she's states, rightly, I think, that if greater understanding and more love is the result then that's all that matters in such cases.

@rosemaryjane7110 Год назад

As a medium, I can tell you, the abuse, all those lonely hours, is how I registered that there were transparent people hanging around. We barely saw TV. No one told me who they were. Lol! Kids don’t need to sit in front of the totally false and crazy TV. Art and Imagination is much more appreciated if you understand reality first.

@user-nj5dm2ug3f 5 лет назад

Con you share these scientific papers she talks about?

@NewThinkingAllowed 5 лет назад

www.windbridge.org/education/major-findings/

@Luciferofom 5 лет назад

Isn't the plural of medium supposed to be 'media'?

@bernardhughes6959 5 лет назад

Excellent interview Jeffrey. Will you be doing an interview relating to the Scole group?

@e-Multiverse 5 лет назад

I wouldn't so easily jump to a conclusion about what 'causes' disease. If you want to know what specifically causes a particular sort of dysfunction, you might make progress more quickly beginning where Louise Hay did . . . "Causes of symptoms" according to Louise Hay

@ArizonaWillful 3 года назад

Louise Hay's symptoms and causes was hilarious. For example, if you have stomach problems, you have trouble digesting current events in your life. If you are constipated, you are refusing to let go of memories that are now toxic to you. If you have a sore throat, you don't speak out when you should. If you are impotent, then you are afraid to thrust yourself into the world. You get the drift. (Eye Roll)

@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns 8 месяцев назад

Slow down. She is NOT “more of an experimentalist” than the SPR was with Piper. That’s not fair or accurate.

@rajabhatia4768 5 лет назад

How can I recieve messages from my deceased loved ones?

@ArizonaWillful 3 года назад

Move on with your life. Stop looking backward. You are just as likely to get trickster spirits pretending to be your deceased loved ones.

@clarekuehn4372 5 лет назад

I hope you write a paper about the difficulties of what seems like objective testing: using James Randi's previous desire to have mediums tested.

@LaughingStock71 5 лет назад

"using James Randi's previous desire to have mediums tested" I think this second part of your statement was pretty redundant, since, in my humble opinion, "Randi's desire" has at no time been anything else than to debunk and ridicule everything and everyone related to psi and mediumship and to make a (second) career out of this.

@jpoconnor2857 5 лет назад

MOG2COG = Universal con sciences/ Akashic record

@krshrv 5 лет назад

Perhaps i misunderstand, but this discussion seems to presuppose that any such mediumship transmissions, even if "verified" in some factual details, are from a dimension occupied by a deceased, an afterlife somewhere, somehow superimposed on our own living dimension. Why wouldn't it be similarly plausible that the transmission comes from ourselves, that the dimension is mental, borne from our own knowledge and creativity? If we want to expand our understanding of "mind" into the non-local, wouldn't it be just as reasonable, perhaps more so, to consider the possibility that we ourselves possess profound powers of projection, often manifest in forms far more coherent than we thought ourselves capable of? Examples abound. Coherence is, after all, largely supplied by the witness, and much simulacra must inhabit any level of reading. How do we ascertain true neutrality, if there is such a thing, and directional plasticity to the message? The paradigm of mind as consequential substrate - required to support the notion of non-local "data" - also logically suggests the possibility of pure mind as the lens, filter, and projector of all coherent mental experience in the present. We must let the ancestors speak, of course, and the better we listen, the better we find them in ourselves.

@krshrv 5 лет назад

there is nothing in this discussion supporting the idea that these are authentic transmissions, from others, from another place, but that seems to be the assumption. it could be all in our heads, created by our own knowledge, memories, or sensitivities. the information might be valid, but the assumptions about the source are not supported.

@profile1251 4 года назад

Trauma as teacher and initiation

@LaughingStock71 5 лет назад

I'd like to know: how can people become "filthy rich" (a term I found elsewhere in this comment section) as a medium? Sure, there are certainly a few superstars or highly efficient criminals who are able to make a lot of money, just as in every other business. I am more interested here in the "usual medium", and I am assuming that the "usual sitter" is an ordinary mid-class person who has recently lost a loved one. I don't see how to get a lot of money from such a person, a few hundred bucks at most. And I also wouldn't think that many of these people will return, once they have received their message. And under these conditions, our usual medium would need about one new customer per work day only to get an income sufficient to pay the rent and bills - a far cry from getting rich! And given that there are so many "usual mediums" around, there should be a lot of competition, and as a result I would think that the majority of usual mediums simply cannot live from the income of mediumship alone, and will thus do it rather as a side job or spare time activity. Right or wrong?

@ArizonaWillful 3 года назад

The famous "psychic" Sylvia Brown charged $600 for a 1 hour private session. That money adds up since she did this 8 hours a day. Obviously, no REAL psychic could perform like this 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. It was fraud but it made her rich.

@kabud 5 лет назад

from Dostoevsky `Brothers karamazov`, a dialogue btw Ivan and some demon, RIGHT ON THE SUBJECT, must read: "Look at the spiritualists, for instance.... I am very fond of them... only fancy, they imagine that they are serving the cause of religion, because the devils show them their horns from the other world. That, they say, is a material proof, so to speak, of the existence of another world. The other world and material proofs, what next! And if you come to that, does proving there’s a devil prove that there’s a God? I want to join an idealist society, I’ll lead the opposition in it, I’ll say I am a realist, but not a materialist, ha-ha!’"

@clarekuehn4372 5 лет назад

Having evidence is not the same as exactly proving. This is true in law and physics, too. Judgment on the materials ends the point.

@kabud 5 лет назад

well, think about where our thoughts are coming from? ;) The World is defined in the semantics : we know things because we attribute meanings to the manifestations; we change meanings- things also change. So "exactly proving" means what we `assign it to mean It works on consensus too

@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns 8 месяцев назад

The way Julie interacts with Braude is also disappointing

@mltiago 5 лет назад

I was distracted by here Beauty

@kernowarty 2 года назад

It is always suspicious to me that when these stage mediums ask if there is someone in the audience who has lost a relative with a certain name to put up their hand. And it is always the first name and this is obviously cold reading. Why cant the spirit tell them their surname? If they can say Bob or Jane then they can say the surname just as easily.

@b0ondockz838 2 года назад

Sometimes they do bring through surnames, but you have to understand how communication is received. The mediums faculties are used to communicate. This means the mediums memories are used, as are names, images, symbols, etc. that the medium is familiar with or has to interpret. When something is heard, it’s heard clairaudiently within the mind. It’s not what most people think. It’s subtle, and in my opinion very few know how to do it really well. The best ones are not on TV, and unfortunately there are a ton of frauds.

@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns 3 года назад

Change the music. Unacceptable

@waxmysophic 4 года назад

I'd latched onto the fact that something wasn't right with Julie, but couldn't put my finger on it. The only obvious discordance, was the fact that despite a very young-looking skin (30y?), she had gray hair cut short like a man's haircut. She was either old with very young skin, or young with very old hair. I eventually reached the tentative conclusion that she'd deliberately made her hair look older, but I couldn't figure out why. At 27:50, Jeffrey said, "So, you're getting away from this sort of colonial model of the-" Julie interrupted him, blurting out "Do you mean patriarchal? Yes!" Then, she sat back looking quite pleased with herself. To his credit, Jeffrey's smile never broke. He completely ignored the attack upon his gender, by finishing what he'd been trying to say, "The lofty researcher, and the lowly research subjects." And with that interchange, I'd found the key to what was bothering me about her. She's a feminist, who seeks out opportunities to verbally attack males. If no reasonable opportunity to the currently present male(s) shows up, her impatience for conflict & confrontation will eventually take over, spurring her to operate on the assumption that it happened anyway - as it did, in this instance. Of course, this has to be qualified, because she has a husband. Therefore, it's not all the time. The topic at the time of the attack was professional format, as in style. So, it's reasonable to assume that her o/c confrontations &/or voicing of resentments against males is (more or less) limited to her career. Perhaps she feels that males have interfered with her achieving greater advances of academic position, or a larger income in her career? It's hard to say if that's true, but it seems to be a common gripe with feminists (the female 67 cents on the male dollar argument), and so it's possible that's the case here, too.

@ilogos8124 4 года назад

waxmysophic Hello friend. I don’t think her opinions on gender are the main thing to take from this interview. She seems friendly, and never attacks the interviewer directly.

@JM-co6rf 2 года назад

she seems pretty cool/smart. for the hair, she could be gay. and some lesbians want to look more paternal. like the hair, i don't believe she needs those glasses.