Investigators Are Shocked by How a Pilot Handled a Minor Problem ✈️ Air Disasters | Smithsonian 

12,000 ft per minute?!…. I can’t imagine the fear and confusion those passengers must have felt.

Astonishing. Stall recovery is one of the first things you learn in basic flight training. At that altitude, this should have been a non-event.

The 205-tonne jet went into an aerodynamic stall and then plunged. “We've lost our speeds,” one co-pilot is heard saying in the flight recordings, before other indicators mistakenly show a loss of altitude, and a series of alarm messages appear on the cockpit screens

I love when they research these accidents!

After watching a few of these things I'm starting to notice how many stalls are met with nosing up. All their training and it's "duh, up is where I want to go!"

This brings back memories of my first stall training. It was terrifying my instructor telling me to keep pulling the stick until we ran out of speed and the plane literally start falling from the sky. Its a terrifying experience and usual taught only once or twice during training due to dangerous the aircraft falling from the sky.

My advice to any aspiring pilots is to study aeronautical or aerospace engineering because in flight school u are taught how to fly the plane to an extent but not how to fully understand the plane and when u study aero eng u fully understand how the plane and it's mechanic works therefore there is nothing that can happen airborne to a pilot if they fully understand aerodynamics

These guys needs to meet their Qualifications and experience really well to be allowed in that sit this is too emotional..

Bro stall recovery is like one of the main things u learn in training

Bonin will always be remembered as the Homer Simpson of aviation

I know this is very unrelated but there are video games out there with this as a feature that helped me start off understanding the aerodynamics and how it works. Probably the stress from the alarms at that moment caused the pilots to panic to make such a small mistake

When you're stalling, you should lower the nose to gain speed then pull up a bit, but the other pilot keeps pulling up which stalls the plane even more then crashed into the ocean.

My theory is that the Air France pilot probably thought the airbus autopilot had gone rouge and was pushing it into a dangerous situation (which they didn’t know that they were creating the dangerous situation) since it was a similar model with Qantas Flight 72, which went into a dive because of the autopilot.

I don't understand why the hell the pilot's pitched up too much

Remembering dr aisling butler RIP friend who was on AF447 and all other souls lost

honestly, im glad that it didnt end up like MH370 where no one found the wreckage...

How did a Professional Pilot end up pulling back Hard Stick on the Stick. How could he not see what was about to happen. Astonishing is just the right word.

It's odd to me that these pilots did not know how to fly a plane.

I cry everytime I think about it.

Really hard to believe all the while the captain is in the back of the airplane...

someone who should never have gotten a pilot license, was flying that plane.

If im not mistaken bonin didnt give control to robert he is still pulling up his sidestick

In case of unreliable IAS at high altitude: Pitch 2 degrees UP and N1 80%. All jet pilots should be taught this. RIP Air France 447

Even I know how to recover from a stall and I was only married to a pilot. No one knows how they will react in a situation. He must have panicked. Shame the captain only return to the flight deck when it was too late. So sad.

I play DCS and this is the most basic mistake than can occur in BVR if ur F 18 is not going punching 200knots at least at 30000ft

Basic pilot error in this case.

I'll never forget AF447 💔

LOL, I am such a nerd... The PCB they are showing as the voice recorder, is the PCB from a Seagate 9.1GB SCSI ultrawide hard drive with a SCA/quick disconnect interface.

There's this little thing that always makes me think I could perhaps make a decent pilot - I can feel every sudden elevation change in my guts. How do experienced pilots not FEEL they're dropping 12000 feet per minute? That would probably put me close to vomiting.

end of training needs to include recovering from deliberate stall under very ideal controlled conditions using for instance special added features to a specific pkane making it easy to recover. extra engine pointed diff direction whatever.

makes me wonder how many pilots actually dont know how to fly the planes, with the automated systems doing their jobs for them

Wow remember hearing about this crash on French TV back when I was studying French in college and people saying it was caused by lightning. I never really followed up on the story so I just assumed that had been the cause.

I hope one day we will find mh370 also

That was a big mistake and it’s crazy is because the pilot was still pulling up when the plane was still stalling down in a problem like this he should not put it up

Why am I getting this in my feed when I’m literally flying to france in less than 2 weeks

Sad. Very sad.

Everyone on Flight 447 died do to F/O pulling up and making the plane stall

Victories have a thousand fathers and failures are orphans. This wasn't just the pilot's fault. That modern aircraft should rely on single, very fallible pitot tubes is also a problem.

This was such a sad accident with nothing wrong with the aircraft... Or the weather

3:12 boeing 737 autopilot disconnect warning and stick shaker lol

i love these they help me learn a lot thanks

This is basic pilot stuff. I’m not a pilot and even I know how not to stall!

For those who are interested the plane has a system that prevents the plane from stalling and protects the plane from banking up to much it’s called flight laws there are 2 types of flight law alternate and normal law. Normal law protects the plane from stalling and has all the flights protections so even if you try to stall the plane the plane will just save itself. Normal law can be turned off by many things one of them is the pitiot tubes being frozen or turning off the ELAC system, when this happens the plane enters altnerate law which basically means the plane lost all of it’s protection and can be stall at any time. Some of the Airbus planes like A320 and A330 flight protections.

This pilot tho 💀

woudnt have happened on a boeing just because of the linked control sticks and feedback. he didnt even know he was holding it nose up the entire time.

Atrocious. Absolutely atrocious. I have never ever ever been flying a plane, however even I could have recovered that stall within 30 seconds. I cannot believe how stupid the pilot was. Stall recovery is one of the earliest things you learn. Either he forgot, or they never taught him! A careless waste of hundreds of lives.

No Alpha Floor protection is strange or at least stall warning

This is what always worries me during flight.. St***d pilots..🤦🏻

Autopilot Suddenly Shuts off and You are Manually Flying The Plane 30.000 ft + Through Bad Weather Over The Ocean in The Pitch Dark Night...This Seems Like a Very Difficult Task For Pilots...Too Much Technology and Not Enough Training

It could have been prevented if they trained the first officers more. However, the complex technology in airbus makes it very difficult for pilots to get along with.

Most incompetent pilots I've ever heard of

1 . Full thrust 2. Nose down 3 . Nose Up gently,Not much 4. Thrust 80 percent Thats it

The difference between life and death on this accident came down to Boeing VS Airbus control methods. On the Boeing both controls are synched both pilots know and feel what each is doing. On the Air Bus both controls are independent so if one pilot is pushing up and the other pilot is pushing down the result is ZERO movement in any direction. This can be a disaster if you have a stall as one pilot could panic and push the control in an opposite direction which is exactly what happen on Airbus Flight 447. Once the co pilot pushed the nose up on his controller the other pilot then pushed his own control forward to get the nose down but now there was a zero movement because the first pilot pushed his control all the way back already so the other pilot had no hope of recovering the stall. The main Pilot should of never left those 2 pilots alone on the flight deck during a storm and with Pitot tubes frozen.

Maybe put lights on the outside of plane

Why didn't the captain take over the plane sooner. When trained people make basic mistakes during a distressing, event it is usually a sign of panic. So is impatience and not allowing the airplane to recover on its own. Also flying over an ocean in the middle of the night you should know there is s possibility something was going to freeze. I don't feel that crew worked as a team to figure out what was wrong with the aircraft.

Was it intentional to crash the plane in to the water?

Suspect the pilot who pulled up to the point of stall may have done so intentionally, seems unrealistic to think he didn’t know better.

All they had to do was let go of the controls.

something that i noticed is that there was a "stickshaker" which is NOT implemented into an airbus, but there is a "Stall Stall Stall bleep bleep bleep" for the pilots to hear. Plus if someone is stressed they would not hear stuff because they will be to focused on something else.

How do you recover from a stall without knowing your air speed?

Highly complex airliners should be kep away from small children.

If you pull up, the plane will lost speed... you should lower the nose to gain speed

What the full video?

bruh, this is a basic flying skill in gta

Watching this on a plane

This are not anymore pilots. Are just operators. They don t feel the plane.

Bro did a cobra 💀

Ese accidente lo explique a todos mis amigos por las redes sociales.

Where is 4K?😑

The pilot in training learns how to recover from a stall and when he is in reality training and life does not apply to him lol. The pilot: Ok training does not apply to real life huh Flight simulator: am I a joke to you

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Isn't it supposed that recovering from a fall is basic to learning

My only aviation experience is through games and I can tell you this.... If the engine stops, nose goes down until you get some speed and then pull up for a glide.

I blame air france for not training pilots properly

Most of you don't know that Air France pilots are the one learning how to fly to the birds.

I see the plane crash at google earth😢

I've been waiting

Get back to the basics - Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. Too much reliance on instruments. If you are flying at FL360 - you have enough time to recover from a stall.

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This video is brought to you by Airbus.

Dam The Pilot with the control Of The A330 Stupid or poorly trained Beacuse He Caused the Stall That was just stupid

Yokes

Im pretty sure the people didnt suffer

Not their reaction but the Pierre Aka idiot Bonin reaction

Sabotage murder.

And here they are ! The couch pilots experts with 0 hours of flying

bro... I swear to god basic game physics like gta would teach you this... Aerodynamics be damned :L

Those pilots are not good gamers huh..

That was not supposed to happen to an porfesonal pilot something was wrong with maybe he intensanolly did y'all need to check his medical background

I do not understand every time that an Air Bus has a problem it's always the pilots' fault it seems strange but true

OMG he treated that plane like a vulgar thing without thinking about the passengers lives or their families waiting for them.

Seems like the pilot was trying to crash the plane.

Everytime I see people commenting on Bonin it drives me nuts. Hello, couch pilots. There was no valid info. They were flying at night with no clue to what was happenning. Bonin made an understandable mistake by reacting to a drop in altitude before they realised the autopilot went off because of a loss in information. Once he did that, this plane was basically gone since they couldn't know their status. Robert and Dubois did thought they were stalling, but that was a guess like any other. They could be in overspeed, who knows. I would say Bonin's main flaw was to fail to communicate his pitch position. Maybe there was time to recover.

It was a suicide

what an incompetent button pusher, got no business being in the cockpit

This isn't a video for children so why not subtitles instead of the fake france-English voice over?

Who gives scientific data to the French?

This is why you should never fly with Air France. Their pilots suck.

I can't wait for MH370 to be found, so we'll watch how the investigation goes