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Invincible’s True Power is INSANE - How Mark Grayson Became The Strongest Viltrumite EVER Explained 

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The Creator of Invincible stated that Mark Grayson A.K.A Invincible is STRONGER than Clark Kent A.K.A SUPERMAN! While this seems insanely far-fetched, the feats Mark has achieved throughout the series are INSANE so we're here to break down how strong he truly is and how at the end of the series he became the STRONGEST in the UNIVERSE!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Creator States Invincible Can Beat SUPERMAN
2:46 - How Strong Is Mark When He First Gets His Powers?
7:08 - Mark's Growth In The Viltrumite War
12:09 - Mark Becomes The STRONGEST In HISTORY!

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@AnimeBallsDeep
@AnimeBallsDeep 6 месяцев назад
Everyone slight correction., 1600 mach, is 1.2 million miles per hour! ❤😂
@HaloManTheSpider
@HaloManTheSpider 6 месяцев назад
1.3 miles per hour!
@barbarianhub
@barbarianhub 6 месяцев назад
Hahaha! Yeah. I was like "Hmmm. Bad math but I've never seen 1.3 mph ever said so awesomely!🤣👍
@DadeMurphie
@DadeMurphie 6 месяцев назад
Another correction, Greenland which is what you showed in the video is almost the furthest possible place on the planet you can get away from Antarctica which is where you mentioned he travelled to in 26 seconds.
@JeffreyjkKlein
@JeffreyjkKlein 6 месяцев назад
@@HaloManTheSpider Damn! That's fast lol.
@rdiv
@rdiv 6 месяцев назад
The creator of Invincible didn't specify which timeframe & version Superman he refers. Nor at what point and timeframe of Invincible's story.
@namelessnames7406
@namelessnames7406 6 месяцев назад
It is absolutely unbelievable that mark can go 1.3 miles per hour. That is too fast
@FutureProp
@FutureProp 6 месяцев назад
Turns out I walk at over Mach 1700. Viltrumite blood flows within us all
@7heTexanRebel
@7heTexanRebel 6 месяцев назад
Truly one of the speed feats of all time
@ProPaintJob
@ProPaintJob 6 месяцев назад
The only thing I dislike about this comment is that I wasn't the one to post it first 😂
@Bradsurps
@Bradsurps 6 месяцев назад
Me, casually walking at mach 1700 to the shop
@billsargent3407
@billsargent3407 6 месяцев назад
Ten times a slug!
@aaronhawkins6938
@aaronhawkins6938 6 месяцев назад
Something I think people forget is that Mark is the rightful heir to the viltrumite throne. His grandfather was the emperor that Thadeus killed. He has the genes of the strongest viltrumites. Thragg finds out Nolan is the son of the last emperor and wants to kill him because of that. He literally is viltrumite royalty and it's an important plot point rlthat I think a lot of people forget about. There was no doubt he was going to become one of if not the strongest viltrumite just based off that.
@jonathansantana6239
@jonathansantana6239 6 месяцев назад
And once he becomes the strongest (hundreds of years later) Superman still obliterates him. Peak superman is literally too OP for movies or cartoons. P.s. the fact that Mark can become the most powerful Viltrimite when he is 1 percent human makes no sense. If every species is below a Viltrimite then how can Mark be stronger than any full blooded Viltrimite? Absolute nonsense Kirkman.
@mauro6545
@mauro6545 6 месяцев назад
@@23Raind Its quite really sustainable... Mark in their end battle its CLOSE w Thraggs power... (just my assumption, but Ill say he has like 75-80% of Thraggs power, while for example BattleBeast should ve been like 99% lol) while LITERALLY being in age terms for the average Viltrumite a literal child, being somewhere 30yo at that point (looking literally 20 or so), while Thragg, looking like a 35 must be around 1.000-1.500yo (we know that foe example Nolan is +2000yo, tho he does look like 45 or so)... So Mark while being a literal infant in Viltrumites terms, was already stronger than any other Viltrumite aside from Thragg, and any other being except for him and BattleBeast, while in the span of 13 years since the story started he grew from being the weakest Viltrumite ever, during the first few issues w powers, to that. Just Imagine how much more powerful he became after 500 years, when even Allen who also had several buffs in the story and at the end battle was close too to Thragg, got easily manhandled by 530yo Mark. I really believe not only that Mark is stronger, but that hes much more powerful by the end of the series than Thragg.
@goblinounours
@goblinounours 6 месяцев назад
​@@jonathansantana6239 The argument is a bit pointless, though. Superman has so many versions, each placed at WILDLY different spots on the power scale... why even try to talk about it when any "official" writer can make-up a new story about Superman (or Mark for that matter) where he suddenly is stronger than whichever version was stronger before. It doesn't obey any law of logic.
@derederekat9051
@derederekat9051 6 месяцев назад
@@jonathansantana6239 but can Superman defeat Goku? To him is just a bug defeating a little smaller bug.
@mauro6545
@mauro6545 6 месяцев назад
@@23Raind The very same Conquest that said “Ur son is ALMOST as strong as u” moments after this, Mark WHO WAS ALMOST AS STRONG AS NOLAN, killed Conquest for the 2nd and final time lol… Conquest is really hyped, but I do think that Nolan is quite stronger than him, he got killed twice by: first time a MUCH weaker Mark than Nolan (w Eves help) n in the second got killed in a completely fair 1v1 by a WEAKER Mark than Nolan. Either that, or Nolans fight IQ is way better than Conquest, who proved himself to be a no brainer lol. Thragg wasnt toying, the minute he got to the sun he was full on trying to kill Mark, he just couldnt, and Robots armor only made Mark gain a few extra seconds, that were enough to kill Thragg…He literally endured all of Thraggs meanest attacks, while also hurting him lol, yh, Thragg was deffo still stronger, but no way near he was “only toying” dude lmao. If Thragg were that much stronger as ur claiming it to be, he shouldve been able to torn mark apart easily like he did the previous time, but as we know, Mark got stronger after Eve healed him, while also got stronger due to the time pass.
@SerpentineDeity
@SerpentineDeity 6 месяцев назад
1.3 miles per hour? He's a god!
@Rhekon
@Rhekon 6 месяцев назад
Right lmao Dude isn't even power walking.
@onesem9399
@onesem9399 6 месяцев назад
Uhh ik it’s a joke but he meant 1,2 million miles
@muirick9924
@muirick9924 6 месяцев назад
Lmfao.
@ChrisABaldwin
@ChrisABaldwin 6 месяцев назад
I had to rewatch that part lol
@bradchannel1575
@bradchannel1575 2 месяца назад
Compare to God? No, if you can express it in numbers then it is not God.
@MandatoryFruit
@MandatoryFruit 6 месяцев назад
I love Mark, by the end of Invincible he is unquestionably the strongest character in the series. But comparing him to Superman just isn't fair.
@res6148
@res6148 6 месяцев назад
Well yeah, if you wanted powerscaling Metro man from megamind could destroy all of them
@MandatoryFruit
@MandatoryFruit 6 месяцев назад
@@res6148 All of what? The Viltrumites? Cause bro is not taking Superman either.
@KhiGuy
@KhiGuy 6 месяцев назад
@@MandatoryFruit read up on Metroman feats, that man is absolutely wrecking EVERYBODY
@electron9820
@electron9820 6 месяцев назад
@@KhiGuy metro man is not beating Superman.
@KhiGuy
@KhiGuy 6 месяцев назад
@@electron9820 Idk bro, Metroman is humbling viltrumites and superman
@abs0lute-zer061
@abs0lute-zer061 6 месяцев назад
Man is speedy going 1.3 miles per hour lmao
@alwayslearning8792
@alwayslearning8792 6 месяцев назад
Made me laugh that that is so slow 🐌 🤣
@leonardocolumnas1191
@leonardocolumnas1191 4 месяца назад
@@alwayslearning8792 its 1.3 MILLION miles . thats what he meant.
@patd9850
@patd9850 6 месяцев назад
Actually, Mark was in critical care after his major fight on the surface of the sun. He would’ve died. Along with his opponent. If he didn’t receive aid to leave the sun.
@darkenergy9760
@darkenergy9760 6 месяцев назад
Yes, but he healed in a matter of days.
@patd9850
@patd9850 6 месяцев назад
@@darkenergy9760 if he wasn’t pulled out. He would’ve died. Which was my point.
@patd9850
@patd9850 6 месяцев назад
Added Superman can literally live the sun. The sun environment super charges his powers. The longer he stays in the sun. Then stronger he gets.
@darkenergy9760
@darkenergy9760 6 месяцев назад
@patd9850 Mark was still reasonably young at that point and has grown leagues stronger since then. He could probably endure the core of the sun for a lot longer now. He obviously couldn't just chill inside the sun, like Superman, though. I feel like staying in the sun too long would have some side effects for Superman. Maybe like a bad fever or something. Though Mark just has to not get dragged into the sun, which probably wouldn't be too hard for him. If Mark loses, it's more likely that he would get overpowered in strength than held in the core of the sun for a while.
@Aznataku02
@Aznataku02 6 месяцев назад
@@darkenergy9760 In all-star superman staying the sun ended up overcharging his cell and they started to explode he got a lot stronger but at the cost of his life.
@Handlesaretrash
@Handlesaretrash 6 месяцев назад
Superman to Finale Invincible: “Stand proud, you are strong.”
@King-yj2jx
@King-yj2jx 2 месяца назад
Fraudkuna-son
@darcsteel
@darcsteel 6 месяцев назад
Mark is good but simple scaling still has him behind og Big Blue
@quantumvideoscz2052
@quantumvideoscz2052 6 месяцев назад
Even wank scaling won't help him, tbh, even if you don't do any scaling for Superman and only take what he actually, visibly performed in the comics.
@CatNact
@CatNact 6 месяцев назад
I about spit out my drink when he said “1.3 miles per hour!” Wtf, I had to rewind that.
@adelaideharper9201
@adelaideharper9201 6 месяцев назад
Hot take: Eve is more powerful than Mark. Can't die, can (when unlocked) rewrite Mark to be stronger. Meaning she could also have taken him apart at the molecular level. Atom Eve could beat ANYONE. Just need to get past one little psychological block she could remove herself one day when things are rough.
@Tiffany-gu4lm
@Tiffany-gu4lm 6 месяцев назад
On god
@BrianTorres-theRunner
@BrianTorres-theRunner 6 месяцев назад
superman one-shots, just like the rest of the invincible universe lol. read the comics to know his TRUE power
@johnfelix503
@johnfelix503 6 месяцев назад
I hope that's part of her arc in the show. She removes her mental block smh and maybe with that control changes har dna to become a viltrumite and live for thousands of years with Mark and their daughter without having to die of old age to revive herself. She becomes the most powerful woman in universe alongside the strongest man in the universe. Imagine the HYPE!
@bruhno1545
@bruhno1545 2 месяца назад
@@johnfelix503 she will be God if that happens, imagine being immortal and manipulating both inorganic and organic matter, that's the definition of being God
@Retro77875
@Retro77875 2 месяца назад
​@@BrianTorres-theRunnernobody cares you superman fanboy😂
@abraxesprime7832
@abraxesprime7832 6 месяцев назад
Superman does things that are just not compatible with image comics universe. I love invincible and it’s universe, but all of its characters have expressed weaknesses and frequently lose battles. Superman…doesn’t quite work that way. It takes gods and literal unkillable doomsday creatures to beat him. I’m also pretty sure the image comics writer didn’t actually read Superman comics
@selfimprovement3682
@selfimprovement3682 6 месяцев назад
Yes, and darkseid knew he couldn’t beat him so he recruited him.
@Deyas786
@Deyas786 6 месяцев назад
Superman gets defeated by a dude with green rocks i mean hes definitely not THAT unkillable
@ruminantdastellar7740
@ruminantdastellar7740 6 месяцев назад
I'm quite sure they did and specifically Due to the insane and sometimes absurd scales that DC comics and Marvel manage, they decided not to make it so broken.
@abraxesprime7832
@abraxesprime7832 6 месяцев назад
@@ruminantdastellar7740 the main writer said invincible was stronger than Superman, if they didn’t make it so broken he wouldn’t have said that.
@jamesyount2423
@jamesyount2423 6 месяцев назад
@@Deyas786 People always have to do what you did to make other characters seem stronger than Superman. That is, compare the strongest versions of their character to one of the weakest of Superman. People do this with Goku, Invincible, Hulk, whatever... Superman has weaker versions, just like any character, where he's younger and has more vulnerabilities but the strongest versions of Superman have godly powers and no weaknesses.
@7boy7set
@7boy7set 6 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂 this is why I love this channel…..yall keep it real
@vincesaligue5963
@vincesaligue5963 6 месяцев назад
Superman solos the whole Invincibleverse. The author was straight up spitting some bs.
@xchimera9552
@xchimera9552 6 месяцев назад
Marks only alive cause no one ever finished the job and mark ain't lifting the heavens and dragging planets 😂😂 stop trolling
@nikolaiprophet
@nikolaiprophet 6 месяцев назад
He could literally take all the Viltrumites one time@@vincesaligue5963
@7boy7set
@7boy7set 6 месяцев назад
@@vincesaligue5963 I wholeheartedly agree!
@7boy7set
@7boy7set 6 месяцев назад
@@xchimera9552 😂😂 nothing but facts
@skyfirejay6162
@skyfirejay6162 2 месяца назад
That last line got me... Was kind of just rolling my eyes because Supes is just untouchable, but you saved the entire video with the final line :)
@mohakarora3375
@mohakarora3375 6 месяцев назад
Mark can definitely put up a good fight against some versions and even win , but mostly Superman is depicted as a god who lives among men and can shatter planets easily so Mark will lose against those versions. But still I like Invincible way more because the story , the stakes, the emotions and especially the action with a touch of realism, stating what a world will look like if God like beings exist. Even though they aren't as strong as Superman but still they are not pushovers, killing a viltrumite isn't that easy because they don't give up easily and have crazy endurance because they are just made to survive extreme situations.
@noobtube373
@noobtube373 6 месяцев назад
Well you have to read superman comics or see the superman movie to see the stakes,emotions and top notch world class 3d human action with a very greater touch of realism stating how world will look if gods like being exist but to realise all that you have to see the shit.
@noobtube373
@noobtube373 6 месяцев назад
I love the realism part when mark throws the garbage out of atmosphere almost and it does not even burn a bit even it turns back on earth it doesn't,that realism i like it.
@mohakarora3375
@mohakarora3375 6 месяцев назад
@@noobtube373 bro i have seen the animated series, the recent animated (MAWS) on adult swim, Christopher Reeves Superman movies , Henry Cavill Superman movies, and also watched Live action TV series (Superman and Lois) and even watched the injustice animated movie. In most of these he's depicted as an alien who came and he's always trying to prove he's as human as the others so it's not like I don't have any idea it's just that Invincible don't hold much back. I'm very much familiar with Superman depictions as well but Invincible does way better in some sense and I have read the entire 144 issue run of Invincible so I think some shit Superman movies or show's or comics won't show at all.
@ArmyGuyClaude
@ArmyGuyClaude 6 месяцев назад
My favorite quote about superman's power is from Death Battle, "Goku is a character that needs to overcome his limits. Superman has none. He is as strong as he needs to be."
@pacjam8365
@pacjam8365 6 месяцев назад
@@mohakarora3375 I agree that Mark does better then any animated superman right now,but comics superman still vaporizes negative dif.
@louisbrown4240
@louisbrown4240 6 месяцев назад
Superman is unfortunately powered by the sun and once he realizes that Mark is as strong as he is it moves to the sun. Now while Mark can exist in the sun Superman is POWERED by the sun he regenerates faster, moves and thinks faster and is over all better while Mark takes environmental damage overloading his healing factor and eventually vaporizes.
@hytek3962
@hytek3962 6 месяцев назад
I love Invincible but this comment is facts
@jtaz3548
@jtaz3548 6 месяцев назад
So Superman’s only win condition is fighting Mark on a specifically a yellow sun? Mark is strong everywhere Superman is not and for that reason alone mark comes out on top more times then not.
@rinneganitachi4840
@rinneganitachi4840 6 месяцев назад
Comics Superman Prime destroyes the whole Invincible universe as a warm up before fighting MUI Goku haha lolz...but any movie or animated version of superman gets torn in half easy by Invincible as he was at the end of the comic after the 500 year time skip
@hytek3962
@hytek3962 6 месяцев назад
@@jtaz3548 I mean if it’s base level Superman vs Timeskip mark, it’s over for supes, unless he takes the fight into the sun where, mark can SURVIVE, and Superman is POWERED UP. You can imagine what would happen then.
@nickkern4109
@nickkern4109 6 месяцев назад
Not the point of Superman.
@burkettnathan822
@burkettnathan822 6 месяцев назад
ABD the fight Mark had against Thragg happened on the surface of the sun, not the core.
@AjayKumar-mg3xc
@AjayKumar-mg3xc 6 месяцев назад
it happened in the core.
@cipher6601
@cipher6601 6 месяцев назад
Just because the creator of Invincible says Mark can beat Superman, doesn't mean he can. He may own Invincible, but he doesn't own Superman. It would be different if he owned both of them, but he doesn't. So he doesn't really have authority over saying his character should be stronger than someone who he doesn't own.
@soloknight7197
@soloknight7197 6 месяцев назад
It's like some kid on the playground saying his imaginary character beats the pre-established game characters your playing
@whitewolf4436
@whitewolf4436 6 месяцев назад
Especially if he fights the Superman that spent 10 millennia on the surface of the sun and becomes essentially omnipotent
@Apexthebeast
@Apexthebeast 6 месяцев назад
Lol when a creator creates a whole species so that he can claim that they can take on and defeat superman lol😂😂
@SOLDAT_MENDES
@SOLDAT_MENDES 6 месяцев назад
Facts, Just because the creator of Invincible, Robert Kirkman, says that Mark Grayson can beat Superman, it doesn't necessarily mean that he actually could. While Kirkman is the creative force behind Invincible and has a deep understanding of Mark's abilities, he doesn't have the same level of control over Superman, who is owned by DC Comics. The strength and capabilities of comic book characters are often determined by the writers and editors who work on them, and these can change over time depending on the needs of the story. While Kirkman's opinion on Mark's potential victory over Superman is certainly interesting, it's not definitive, and it would ultimately be up to the writers and editors of DC Comics to decide whether or not such a scenario could actually play out. It's also worth noting that the outcome of a fight between two superheroes can often depend on a variety of factors beyond their raw power levels, such as the environment in which the fight takes place, the characters' mental states, and even a bit of luck. So even if Mark were to hypothetically possess the power to defeat Superman, there's no guarantee that he would actually be able to do so in a real fight. And, the question of whether or not Mark Grayson could beat Superman is a matter of opinion and speculation. While Kirkman's statement certainly adds to the discussion, it doesn't provide a definitive answer. Only time and the creative decisions of the writers and editors will tell if such a battle will ever take place and who would ultimately emerge victorious.
@dabee5684
@dabee5684 6 месяцев назад
Actually your explanation does not make sense Goku can beat super man he doesn't own Goku does he
@SupercharizardEx
@SupercharizardEx 6 месяцев назад
Superman’s feats far exceed Invincible’s to my knowledge. Let’s see here, Superman has towed an entire galaxy, went back in time through sheer speed, has complete immunity to 50 million degrees within the center of the sun, doesn’t ever age, and he can become even stronger after bathing in the sun for an extended period of time. I’m not too sure about Invincible’s feats, but I don’t think I’m aware of him doing anything that crazy.
@new_plea9303
@new_plea9303 6 месяцев назад
kriptonite solos superman
@SupercharizardEx
@SupercharizardEx 6 месяцев назад
Depends on which variant of Superman. Superman Prime One Million for instance has no weaknesses to kryptonite. All-Star Superman when supercharged by the sun has complete immunity to green kryptonite, but is susceptible to others. Kryptonite by itself may or may not be lethal depending on which Superman we’re discussing. Honestly, magic packs more of a punch than kryptonite does.
@KMFDM781
@KMFDM781 6 месяцев назад
If you count the Snyder cut movie, Superman took a full swing from Steppenwolfs axe. This is a being who's a gazillion times more powerful than an average man swinging an axe full force at Superman and it didn't even ruffle his suit.
@user-zy7jx2rn1j
@user-zy7jx2rn1j 6 месяцев назад
I think people have the image of superman not being as strong as he is because they only see the film adaptations really don't show things that are as impressive as what Omni man does (wiping out an entire civilization in one episode etc.). Also Invincible is just a lot bloodier and more gory than the DC films so when you see damage done to characters by somebody like Omni man it stays in your head more and gives you the false sense that he's stronger.
@storm_wolfBH
@storm_wolfBH 6 месяцев назад
as far as animated supermen go invincible can win against all if not most and for comic book supermen he most of them easily vaporize him
@imcrxnkxd345
@imcrxnkxd345 6 месяцев назад
“1.3 miles per hour” damn that puppy got some get up and go all right
@matthewjones5951
@matthewjones5951 5 месяцев назад
"flies them to Antartica" *shows map of Greenland*
@rodan9773
@rodan9773 6 месяцев назад
Superman can one tap Omni-Man Invincible wouldn't even need that. At The End of his Arch Superman can still thrash him it would just not be a one shot deal. Respect and keep up the epic work.
@marcierex4547
@marcierex4547 6 месяцев назад
no it would still be a one shot easily negative deficulty for superman
@SOLDAT_MENDES
@SOLDAT_MENDES 6 месяцев назад
Superman and Omni-Man are both incredibly powerful characters, and it's difficult to say definitively who would win in a fight. However, I believe that Superman has the potential to defeat Omni-Man, but it would not be an easy fight. Superman has a number of advantages over Omni-Man, including his heat vision, super strength, and invulnerability. He is also more experienced in combat, and he has a better understanding of his own powers. Omni-Man, on the other hand, is incredibly strong and durable. He is also a skilled fighter, and he has a ruthlessness that Superman does not. And, the outcome of a fight between Superman and Omni-Man would depend on a number of factors, including the environment in which the fight took place, the mental state of the combatants, and a bit of luck. However, I believe that Superman has the potential to win, even if it would be a very difficult fight.
@SirJolbyWanKenobi
@SirJolbyWanKenobi 6 месяцев назад
@@SOLDAT_MENDES it isn't difficult for rent at all. The environment has no matter because whatever environment he's in, there isn't really anything Omni man can do to him that would affect him. If we want to make it at least somewhat, a fair fight, let's do random encounter in the middle of the road, sure Omni is ruthless, strong, yet he's not stronger nor faster or more durable than Superman. Not to mention, I'd say, Superman is also more skilled than Omni-man, considering he's trained with Batman, Wonder Woman, and knows, ancient kryptonian fighting techniques. Not to mention the hundreds of other things he's learned while flying across the galaxy. The most setback that we need to worry about given the encounter I planted is civilian casualties, and due to his super speed, he'd be able to evacuate entire block before Omni-man can blink. I'd also like to give you the fact that Superman has powers over Omni-man to. His laser vision can travel as fast as the flash( depending on what speed he's going, in which flash it is) not to mention cities if you wanted to. Omni-man has an innate weakness, tie, frequency noises which Superman can exploit using his supersonic extreme. he also has ice breath, and super breath. You also bring up the fact that he's invulnerable which Superman is two into a higher extent, given that he can literally fly into the sun and not take any damage while Omni-man can only stay near the sun for a limited amount of time before he's completely annihilated.
@Niggcolo
@Niggcolo 6 месяцев назад
@@SOLDAT_MENDES Superman would literally wash him and it’s not even close. Base comic Superman solos the verse
@Niggcolo
@Niggcolo 6 месяцев назад
@@SOLDAT_MENDESChatGPT ass responds
@falloutthewindowcrazy7608
@falloutthewindowcrazy7608 6 месяцев назад
That was a very short sponsor thing but it still got the point through Respect man
@ruminantdastellar7740
@ruminantdastellar7740 6 месяцев назад
I think Mark could catch up Superman, likely at the age of Conquest and trainining his entire life until that point. Superman travels Galaxies in seconds, lifts entire solar systems and has been even able to move stars, don't ask me how he did that but, the point is that maybe Mark could catch up. If and only if, the autor confirms that they don't have a limit power and can become stronger with training without a top, then Mark theorically could out power Superman.
@Richter5
@Richter5 6 месяцев назад
I love how much of Dragon Ball things are in Invincible series :P For and example - Mark is literally alternate version of Son Gohan - they both have significant power boost when they rage. They both are sons of powerful alien warrior race fathers and earthling mothers. Plus this galactic conquest thing :P
@shrekified3646
@shrekified3646 6 месяцев назад
yeah i see it
@user-zv2zz6kn6w
@user-zv2zz6kn6w 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I do kinda get Saiyan vibes from Viltrumites, for sure.
@josephstrand3595
@josephstrand3595 6 месяцев назад
Well based off the end of Invincible Mark could definitely put up a good fight against supes, but the gap closes with every year on mark's age- so the question becomes: how old must mark be to kill superman?
@millerrepin4452
@millerrepin4452 6 месяцев назад
infinity Supermans heatvision can lobotomize opponents or he can aim for the ears (viltrimite weakness)
@DecimusCaesar
@DecimusCaesar 6 месяцев назад
Broski, there are an infinite amount of numbers@@millerrepin4452 I'd say 5 quintillion years old
@josephstrand3595
@josephstrand3595 6 месяцев назад
@@millerrepin4452 Well based on how strong he is by the end of the series and hes only like a hundred.... Id give it maybe a 1k-1.8k years before he can confidently beat supes. And the laser beam thing? He can definitely react to that by the end of the series so by this time he can block it and take damn near no damage from it and still have time to react to supes going in for a swing
@jamesyount2423
@jamesyount2423 6 месяцев назад
Superman gets to his prime version way before Mark gets anywhere close to his level so there's no catching up for Mark.
@josephstrand3595
@josephstrand3595 6 месяцев назад
@@jamesyount2423 irrelevant to my comment.
@joel7830
@joel7830 6 месяцев назад
i read the comics years ago and the power levels really never hit me, good video!
@craigsurbrook5702
@craigsurbrook5702 6 месяцев назад
Nope. He would just break his hand on Superman's face. If you've ever seen the feats of strength attributed to Superman in the Superman comics, Mark Grayson (Invincible) is a complete non-entity in comparison.
@user-zv2zz6kn6w
@user-zv2zz6kn6w 6 месяцев назад
Yep because superman is an extremely poorly written character, 100% agree
@Seven_Leaf
@Seven_Leaf 6 месяцев назад
@@user-zv2zz6kn6w Yeah, physics need not apply lol.
@TheBestAlien
@TheBestAlien 6 месяцев назад
​@@user-zv2zz6kn6wthey're always giving him new abilities 💀
@AlwaysEwok
@AlwaysEwok 2 месяца назад
That’s a terrible take. The argument for superman is people pulling out specific comic runs where he goes OP like superman 1 million and comparing it to a young mark from the show. Normal adult superman with no wild power buffs like DCAU vs fully grown leader of the viltrumite empire mark which is simply mark fully grown and not a child anymore goes to mark quite easily, he becomes the strongest being in the galaxy while it’s commonly known superman gets wrecked by characters like darkside quite often except when he gets some kind of power boosts. The writer of the comics confirmed it. Superman would destroy every other viltrumite tho only thragg has a chance
@debonlr
@debonlr 6 месяцев назад
so gohan powers gets stronger with emotions due to being half human
@ekophatman94
@ekophatman94 6 месяцев назад
can't forget that superman can perform an instant lobotomy with his xray vision and heat vision. Invincible can't beat that for sure.
@SheeshFTC
@SheeshFTC 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info
@Subxenox15
@Subxenox15 6 месяцев назад
He's Gohan. Got it.
@John-oo8dn
@John-oo8dn 6 месяцев назад
I would assume that by the end of the series, Mark is probably 100+ to have grey hairs. We really don't know how quickly he ages, but if it's anything close to true Viltrumites, he's the equivalent of a human in their early 30s (around the time people start getting grey hairs). There is no reason Eve can't be over 100 years old, considering her body (after being rebuilt) was probably perfect and she had the benefit of alien technology and medicines to extend her life.
@michaelalmodovar4332
@michaelalmodovar4332 6 месяцев назад
There seems to be some power differences in the series versus the comics. In the comics, how many men beat the guardians with absolute ease, as were in the show, he was actually be in into a coma.
@shastacat9632
@shastacat9632 Месяц назад
thats true but even the invincible comics just really dont stand a chance to absolutely absurd powerscaling that DC has
@lanogra5851
@lanogra5851 6 месяцев назад
All superman has to do is fly him into the sun
@sboombastic7
@sboombastic7 6 месяцев назад
You do realize he can fight in the sun right?
@DemonReaper105
@DemonReaper105 6 месяцев назад
​@@sboombastic7for limited time before he's burned to a crisp. Superman wouldn't take damage
@marcierex4547
@marcierex4547 6 месяцев назад
@@sboombastic7 superman can just hold his neck in the sun while he takes no dmg
@SirJolbyWanKenobi
@SirJolbyWanKenobi 6 месяцев назад
@@sboombastic7 Do you know anything about invincible?
@SOLDAT_MENDES
@SOLDAT_MENDES 6 месяцев назад
Superman wouldn't want to kill Omni-Man. He's a hero, not a murderer. 💀
@hankogle6858
@hankogle6858 6 месяцев назад
I think the point is that the mix of vilturmite and human. The acceptation from other vilturmite/human is he is like 99 percent vilturmite and 1 percent human. Somehow that makes him better than the rest. At full strength he probably will be able to fly in the sun. Even though the original leader died that way
@cosmicloaf855
@cosmicloaf855 6 месяцев назад
I guess no one watched the whole interview because he stated that he doesn't believe Invincible would win, he just said that because he finds Superman boring.
@RegReg02
@RegReg02 6 месяцев назад
they definitely didn't.
@harshitmudgal
@harshitmudgal 6 месяцев назад
dude thats a lot of knowledge damnn it
@senister14
@senister14 7 дней назад
I just want to point out, besides the sun argument, omni man was destroyed with experimental b0mbs, while they never did make a weapon that could destroy superman, even in the dark knight, superman survives and absorbs live energy around him.
@FoltestAnimations
@FoltestAnimations 6 месяцев назад
The same energy as George RR Martin saying Jaime Lannister could beat Aragorn, which is impossible.
@jamesphilip4562
@jamesphilip4562 6 месяцев назад
It’s not true at all. Just because he wants his character to be stronger than Superman doesn’t mean it’s true. There are plenty of times we’ve seen viltrimites get beat to a pulp. The only time I’ve ever seen Superman get beat to death was by doomsday a entity just as powerful as him
@AgentYK11
@AgentYK11 6 месяцев назад
@jamesphilip4562 well he could do that easy by just continue the story and give Mark better feats than superman but i Dont think that will happen since the Story is canonly finished but in Theorie i think its very easy to write a character stronger than 99% of all versions of Superman whit the only exeption being CAS witch thenicaly isnt realy a true Version of supes since he is Made from aliens and more a self improfing cyborg than a biological being he most likely dosent count in the matchup and even if he counts if the Autor realy wants to he might just end up asking nerds in reddit how to Make a stronger character than CAS and how to counter his insane hax and power Adaption its similar to finding Way to Beat the kid that always will say your nuber plus 1 in a who knows the bigger Number Duell... So it will be Hard but still possible probably he is lazy he can just give him concept erasure and absolut omnicience what should prevent CAS from killing him AS child or absorbing his universe well it unclear if not CAS just adapt to Marks abbilty to negate Any Adaption so it still would End in a draw since if both have infinte Speed both abbiltys would be instant and preventing both from wining the uperhand but i think since the omnisience Mark could know CAS atack before it happens even if he timetravels before his own birth so i think Mark whould draw that in that Setting... But just as said before i do not realy count CAS as a Superman so the Autor could probably to 99 % write him stronger than superman
@millerrepin4452
@millerrepin4452 6 месяцев назад
if there is a crossover story who wins the fight and is stronger will be what ever the author says it is. They entertain not compare stats.
@user-zv2zz6kn6w
@user-zv2zz6kn6w 6 месяцев назад
Of course it's not true - it's Supercringeman. He's a walking Deux Ex Machina. The writers just do whatever the !@#$ they wan't because they coulnd't care less about the quality of DC's writing.
@blacklovejiyu_oka1047
@blacklovejiyu_oka1047 6 месяцев назад
I love how real u guys are
@simondelavega1938
@simondelavega1938 2 месяца назад
What i love about invincible is because its a single run comic the pacing and growth of invincible is consistent.
@AnujGPandey
@AnujGPandey 6 месяцев назад
Mark Grayson will *NEVER* and I repeat *NEVER* I'll repeat again *NEVER,* I'll repeat once more for confirmation, *NEVER* defeat Superman without that juicy PLOT ARMOUR.
@unknownboi2447
@unknownboi2447 6 месяцев назад
The only superman that he can beat in his 500 years of experience is some of the 2000 shows of superman
@vikingstormo4812
@vikingstormo4812 6 месяцев назад
Or if Mark has kriptinite Superman gets an instant KO
@AnujGPandey
@AnujGPandey 6 месяцев назад
@@vikingstormo4812 Yes! Yes! Every moron when they have no way to beat Superman be crying like "😭😭😭 But what if he has Kryptonite?😭😭😭" That's not exactly an achievement, is it? Batman can wipe out all of Viltrumite population with the poison Allen had.
@Syphonus811
@Syphonus811 6 месяцев назад
Superman is the definition of plot armor lmfao. He was the ORIGINAL plot armor
@Syphonus811
@Syphonus811 6 месяцев назад
​@@AnujGPandeyKryptonite is so fucking easy to find though. For an element found only on another planet, it sure easy to get ahold of
@connormacleod1490
@connormacleod1490 6 месяцев назад
Superman's heat ray vision is enough to kill Invincible.
@baki484
@baki484 6 месяцев назад
I doubt he'd have to do that he can lobotomize mark with a stare by using his heat vision in a microscopic manner like he did to Manchester Black viltrimites can't heal if their brains or hearts are too damaged.
@rustyshield
@rustyshield 6 месяцев назад
no its not.
@nsbm159
@nsbm159 6 месяцев назад
@@rustyshield if the sun can hurt Invincible then his heat vision will hurt him as well
@millerrepin4452
@millerrepin4452 6 месяцев назад
@@rustyshield Supermans heat vision can work like a scalpel capable of lobotomizing opponents if superman wanted to. Hell superman could even aim for the ears (viltrimite weakness)
@neobangpegasus
@neobangpegasus 5 месяцев назад
Gotta love how mark changed his ruler clothes colors to match his suit
@Ireallycantthinkofahandle
@Ireallycantthinkofahandle 6 месяцев назад
Holy shit I subbed because of the fact that you left in "1.3 Miles Per hour" I swear to god it had me dying of laughter. God Bless you man, That was hilarious😂
@papeven5600
@papeven5600 6 месяцев назад
The part were he said "he might be able to lift your mum" is crazy because we Americans don't have horse teeth even though the dentist is expensive
@happyhardware6911
@happyhardware6911 6 месяцев назад
Imagine a Viltrumite - Kryptonian Hybrid ... All the power but no weakness!
@shastacat9632
@shastacat9632 Месяц назад
i think it would just be a debuff to the kryptonian
@N3THERITE
@N3THERITE Месяц назад
​@@shastacat9632really? Even a child could kill krytonians by just playing with some shiny green rock and it would be easier if the child knows some magic. Come on now
@quadgon
@quadgon День назад
I always envision a spin off sort of comic where future Emperor Mark, goes back in time and pays Thragg a little visit. The sheer terror in Thraggs eyes as he's getting completely ragdolled by another viltrumite, even worse when he recognizes who he is :D
@kiidkif2009
@kiidkif2009 6 месяцев назад
4:03 best your mom joke I've heard in a while😂😂😂
@lucasdunfee3431
@lucasdunfee3431 6 месяцев назад
❤Not to mention, if Mark gets out of his prime, get around Eave when she is about to die, and her powers will work on him, making him younger and stronger.
@Jonah-Hosein
@Jonah-Hosein 6 месяцев назад
Facts... Watching a few videos where they break down feats, prime superman (before the new 52 as that superman is one most are familiar with) superman one shots every viltrimite ever. And thats just one version of many many versions of superman. Superman 1 million would literally sneeze them out of existence that's how powerful he is, he can reconstruct and revive dna... Let alone anything else and has cosmic like powers which are basically endless. It's just not a comparison lol, and again that's just one version of almost endless supermen.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 6 месяцев назад
even new 52 who could lift the weight of earth for days on end and could punch hard enough to shake the earth to the upper atmosphere claps
@komodokisaragi9398
@komodokisaragi9398 6 месяцев назад
It's some crazy ass superman out there, I know it's a few invincible but the main one is the strongest and I just do see it
@jayjay-nk8eu
@jayjay-nk8eu 2 месяца назад
That ending absolutely got me 😂
@adamdevon5993
@adamdevon5993 6 месяцев назад
Hey mate awesome video, but at 3:30 you picture The Arctic and not Antarctica. Its about the same distance so the maths isnt too far off.
@Elucidator18
@Elucidator18 6 месяцев назад
Everyone in the comments saying how Invincible could never touch Superman. Most versions of Superman aren't so ridiculously OP that they destroy universes or worlds. Yes Superman is strong but the average version of Superman vs grown Invisible is definitely no cakewalk for Superman...
@barbarianhub
@barbarianhub 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely love how you put this together as it gives a very good depiction of just how powerful Mark is. Great work and Big Blue would still beat Mark without even having to kill him.😁😎
@barbarianhub
@barbarianhub 6 месяцев назад
@@23Raind Superman.
@barbarianhub
@barbarianhub 6 месяцев назад
@@23Raind WTF?
@barbarianhub
@barbarianhub 6 месяцев назад
@@23Raind probably woke nonsense. I am an old school comics fan and haven't bought any of the crap they've been putting out for decades.
@EclipsePRS
@EclipsePRS 2 месяца назад
Bud, you just made me grunt laugh at the end there. Best comment ever.
@kylekennedy9212
@kylekennedy9212 6 месяцев назад
The last ep (s2 e4) just ramped things up times a thousand. So pumped.
@nor3299
@nor3299 6 месяцев назад
The real question is why is thragg so strong 😂
@thedarkknight727
@thedarkknight727 6 месяцев назад
Superman can literally bathe in the Sun, and we’ve seen what happens to Viltrumites if they stay in the Sun for far too long.
@rottweilaboy55
@rottweilaboy55 6 месяцев назад
1 love how Conquest has the look of Thanos with the Gaunlet
@Yvng_Zy
@Yvng_Zy 6 месяцев назад
Dang that black and yellow suit looks good
@Rizz_Messiah
@Rizz_Messiah 6 месяцев назад
3:00 they need to give whoever designed that trash bag a huge raise and get them working for NASA. A bag of trash that his strong enough to not get ripped to shreds from being thrown into orbit from either Mark's hand or from the super sonic wind drag is a feat that went over everyone's head.
@lucionjones8685
@lucionjones8685 6 месяцев назад
Anyone think invincible chracters can sracth or even beat comic superman gotta be delusional Mark is like solar system lvl max With mftl speed A heavily lowball superman is outerversal with infinite speed
@Selfinflictedhummusrocket
@Selfinflictedhummusrocket 6 месяцев назад
Power scale some women dude
@Niggcolo
@Niggcolo 6 месяцев назад
@@SelfinflictedhummusrocketThose exist?
@lucionjones8685
@lucionjones8685 6 месяцев назад
@@Selfinflictedhummusrocket ?? I legit dont umderstand what you mean
@Selfinflictedhummusrocket
@Selfinflictedhummusrocket 6 месяцев назад
@@lucionjones8685 invincible would body superman ten times over and for some reason you're taking it personally 🤣
@AjayKumar-mg3xc
@AjayKumar-mg3xc 2 месяца назад
@@Selfinflictedhummusrocket yes cant belive these stupid superman fanboys...post mark who beat thrgg can beat normal versions of superman
@tallwoodsky9902
@tallwoodsky9902 2 месяца назад
The problem with the instant teleportation fell fest is that Cecil is still taking the time to choose a location to teleport to, and by the time the decision is made and the button is pressed, of course Mark is long gone. But considering he could dodge hits from Nolan like this (at least in the show, I forgot if this happened in the comics) it is still impressive.
@langadube9611
@langadube9611 6 месяцев назад
Pretty sure Superman once sneezed a solar system away and if we're using post crisis pretty sure he's blown up a planet.
@madginger3634
@madginger3634 6 месяцев назад
1.3 mph doesnt seem very fast
@bretburt7317
@bretburt7317 6 месяцев назад
I agree with the final statement. For one thing, Supes gets even stronger if he gets thrown inside a sun. At least a yellow one.
@werewolfdragon4740
@werewolfdragon4740 6 месяцев назад
honestly anytime anyone mentions superman, the sups fans go "HE CAN GO IN A SUN TO BE STRONGER". yes. he can. it happens... almost never? even when fighting things that can kill superman. It's not like his signature move or something, it happens in a few comic strips and is shown more as a last resort move than something superman always does when fighting a strong opponent. Shit honestly my main argument would be "superman regenerates really fucking fast" or "superman has better strength feats" Or literally anything else. But no, everyone always goes "he can go in the sun" fucking brainless.
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath 6 месяцев назад
And also if you look at the panel before the arm wrestle when they were locking hands, both of them or wincing, they both made that face, so yes, you could say they are equal
@supersoldier3700
@supersoldier3700 6 месяцев назад
Mark tends to pull his punches and hold back when hes fighting. Hes knows hes strong and is too afraid he'll kill someone. Even later in the story when he has to fight for his life, Omni Man tells his to stop holding back, then he starts to kicks ass but fails in the end because he tried to show mercy to someone trying to murder his face.
@grizzlyklan18
@grizzlyklan18 6 месяцев назад
And Superman lifted the weight of the earth none stop for over a week. And when he was dying from sun poisoning he was still able to lift the weight that can’t even be made in real life
@Lion-O-Richie2040
@Lion-O-Richie2040 6 месяцев назад
Thing is, you have to be specific with which superman you’re mentioning.
@RegReg02
@RegReg02 6 месяцев назад
@@Lion-O-Richie2040 exactly. there's multiple versions. there's Viltrumite level versions. there's God-level versions. there's versions that aren't so vulnerable to kryptonite as other versions. lots to choose from. personally i feel like Krypto the damn dog no diffs Nolan
@thanos1335
@thanos1335 6 месяцев назад
​@@Lion-O-Richie2040New 52
@noaharthur9041
@noaharthur9041 6 месяцев назад
​@@Lion-O-Richie2040we can just use new52 Superman. I think that was the one that held the weight of the earth.
@ScilentDeath
@ScilentDeath 6 месяцев назад
I can see the argument working for Mark winning but it depends on what era superman he’s fighting… if he fights Superman at an early stage like before superman has ever fought another entity like himself so first one he fights is Zod really… but when super man is like peak power house and lobotomises doomsday etc and beats the shit outta darkseid etc… that superman probably beats the shit outta anybody in invincible plus there was that whole period in the 80’s where superman just got whatever power he needed… and that shit was mad so if its that guy its again a no contest but if its early sups and peak mark it micht just go the other way… cause mark fought alot of scary dudes… but in terms of raw strength that alot of this video is about nothing matches sups toeing planets on a chain through space… there’s cruise shit and then there’s multiple planets… like its a fucking necklace… and supes really does have more powers. Like if in real trouble can do that turn back time shit, mark can’t do that.
@Lion-O-Richie2040
@Lion-O-Richie2040 6 месяцев назад
Use some spaces, jeeeeeez. Start new sentences.
@Taha_A
@Taha_A 6 месяцев назад
@@Lion-O-Richie2040 Okay, english teacher. Is my reply correct enough for you?
@derunernst
@derunernst 2 месяца назад
When Mark is angry and like 5000 yrs old he would probably win. I mean yeah superman may be a bit stronger but he’s a hero and I really think he would hold back his punches.
@Candle_eater7685
@Candle_eater7685 Месяц назад
btw every time Eve dies of age she just kinda resets back to being like 20
@nftvegeta538
@nftvegeta538 6 месяцев назад
17:10 bruh ....you got me i thought you would say there is a possibility of invincible beating superman...i watched the whole video for no reason ....bro you got me good
@gregwiens9146
@gregwiens9146 Месяц назад
The strength of the trash bag Mark throws!
@ic6812
@ic6812 14 дней назад
HEFTY, HEFTY, HEFTY
@dc6953
@dc6953 6 месяцев назад
The only person remotely comparable to prime Superman is one punch, and even then, it’s only because the author wrote him to specifically overpowered as possible with other heros in mind. Superman seems to be the pinnacle of power, along with Goku
@Yuh_zhimmy
@Yuh_zhimmy 6 месяцев назад
Goku isn’t even close to the pinnacle of power. Other Anime verses like fate and gurren lagann Easily solo all of db
@skeletonofflavor2716
@skeletonofflavor2716 6 месяцев назад
Bro thinks the three strongest characters in fiction are Goku Saitama and Superman
@pualbaptiste8617
@pualbaptiste8617 6 месяцев назад
Franklin Richard solos.
@dc6953
@dc6953 6 месяцев назад
@@skeletonofflavor2716 When did starting a statement with bro while describing the obvious became popular, as if none of us can read. Bro thinks that I think Superman and Goku is all there is to fictional strength, all without knowing me or the depth of my knowledge.
@dc6953
@dc6953 6 месяцев назад
@@Yuh_zhimmy I used those examples as they’re popular like Superman, the mentioned anime don’t compare in popularity and most people wouldn’t know anything about them generally. Unless they’re fanatics of course, and fanatics tend not to make up the majority of any given population of any genre statistically.
@ZenImmortalScribeofAfrica
@ZenImmortalScribeofAfrica 2 месяца назад
Lots of people tend to ignore the upgrade Mark got from Eve. Mark isnt just a viltrumite of royal blood destined to outgrow even thragg, he is also an upgraded (down to molecular level) viltrumite who got redesigned by his badass wife. I still think superman finds a way to win coz “he is superman”, but this is one of those cases where a fair argument can be made that big blue should lose.
@shastacat9632
@shastacat9632 Месяц назад
superman wouldnt really need to find a way his recent showings put him at an absolutely absurd level, if mark was as strong as superman is in comics there wouldnt be a story
@godlygamer2466
@godlygamer2466 6 месяцев назад
He isn’t even close to most comic Superman, probably all unless they are nerfed for plot purposes. Just because he wrote mark doesn’t make him correct, I mean if he wrote Superman into his story, seems like Superman would loose, but Superman is definitely not weaker.
@thatonekidnamedevan3455
@thatonekidnamedevan3455 6 месяцев назад
superman would stand a chance if a common green rock wasn’t his weakness.
@godlygamer2466
@godlygamer2466 6 месяцев назад
@@thatonekidnamedevan3455 he overcomes kryptonite and it isn’t a random green rock? It is a space rock that is very rare. Besides this random green rock admits radiation, a certain one that targets kryptonians
@thatonekidnamedevan3455
@thatonekidnamedevan3455 6 месяцев назад
@@godlygamer2466 when did he overcome kryptonite? and it couldn’t be rare if humans can get it and make bullets out of it. not to mention he needs a specific star to be nearby for him to have his powers.
@godlygamer2466
@godlygamer2466 6 месяцев назад
@@thatonekidnamedevan3455 kryptonite isn’t available in the invincible universe I don’t even know why your first resort is to bring up kryptonite as Superman has stats that make Marks look insignificant. He has plenty of instances where it doesn’t effect him however I don’t see why that is relevant when discussing who is stronger. He gets stronger around a star, that doesn’t mean he won’t have access to the stars or he will be completely drained while fighting mark.
@thatonekidnamedevan3455
@thatonekidnamedevan3455 6 месяцев назад
@@godlygamer2466 kryptonite is available in the dc universe so i don’t understand why you mention it’s not in the invinsible universe. you say there’s many instances where he’s not affected by kryptonite but there’s also many more instances where he is affected. also viltrimites can literally escape the force of a black hole in the comics, meaning they have to be faster than the speed of light, and mark becomes more powerful than all of them. i don’t think superman has ever passed a speed benchmark at near light speed.
@Joe___R
@Joe___R 6 месяцев назад
At the end of the series it would be a good fight between the two. That being said Invincible could easily just wait Superman out since he will live so much longer. Plus viltramights get stronger with age so Mark only being around 100yo makes him still basically a child compared to his maximum age potential.
@langadube9611
@langadube9611 6 месяцев назад
Superman pretty much doesn't age when he filled up with that yellow sun goodness.
@donniemedlin4217
@donniemedlin4217 6 месяцев назад
Invincible is great but anywhere near the yellow sun sadly no vitrumite stands a chance against Superman
@shadowbro8532
@shadowbro8532 6 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say he would live much longer than supes there is a Superman called Strange Visitor Superman and he basically outlived everyone and even grown too strong that he split himself into many different supermen but ultimately he lives long enough to see everyone die and even the last god and the universe perish while yeah this is another version of superman I still think normal Superman can live to be that long.
@nathanhodgson6056
@nathanhodgson6056 6 месяцев назад
That ending caught me off guard lol
@lucaguastella5852
@lucaguastella5852 6 месяцев назад
Pensavo a te giusto l'altro giorno! Grande fede
@Overkill1666
@Overkill1666 6 месяцев назад
So if the writer of Speedy Gonzales says Speedy is faster than the Flash, would it be truth? It's the Fandom who needs to look at the feeds shown in the material and have to come to a conclusion. A writer can only decide if he invented and has written both Characters.
@vincesaligue5963
@vincesaligue5963 6 месяцев назад
The Invincible Author is smoking lol. Superman’s objective feats >>>>> His subjective claims.
@Yvng_Zy
@Yvng_Zy 6 месяцев назад
That beard was 🔥
@BrotherShield
@BrotherShield 6 месяцев назад
Mark Could But the Question is Which Superman, Its the same argument when it come to Goku, there are superman that Goku can completely destroy & Superman where Goku would stand a chance, same applies to mark
@mksmike
@mksmike 6 месяцев назад
If it's the Superman that can lift almost 3 times the mass of the moon with one hand the odds would be definitely against Mark.
@Shroudpwnsu
@Shroudpwnsu 6 месяцев назад
Lifting weight ≠ punching/striking power. That’s like saying a power lifter punches harder than a pro boxer just because they can lift more. Doesn’t make sense lol
@mksmike
@mksmike 6 месяцев назад
@@Shroudpwnsu Superman is also faster than Mark though.
@mathsmagic1311
@mathsmagic1311 2 месяца назад
@@Shroudpwnsu Superman destroyed a multiverse with a single punch. Now tell me any Invincible's feats on that level.
@1XSpartanX1
@1XSpartanX1 6 месяцев назад
Bruh, Superman is a solar battery, the closer he is to the Sun the stronger he is, and Mark and Thragg fought in the Sun and the oldest strongest die, Mark only survived, because he was save, you cant do that to Superman.
@user-ok1ue9ec9t
@user-ok1ue9ec9t 6 месяцев назад
That caleb city reference was funny asf
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 6 месяцев назад
The Mark 500 years after the ending would possess a strength level even Thragg would shake.
@angelosalcedo5025
@angelosalcedo5025 6 месяцев назад
So let's do a example of what superman at his strong Virgins can actually do Super boy prime. Cosmic armored superman. Drop the mic 😂😂😂😂
@Syphonus811
@Syphonus811 6 месяцев назад
Okay. What about if the writers of Invincible make Mark stronger than Cosmic Armor Superman? Hm? What then? Nobody wins unless the writer wants them to. It's plain and simple. Stan Lee said it himself
@NuclearDabattleground
@NuclearDabattleground 6 месяцев назад
​@@Syphonus811the writers of invincible have no power over the creator's of cosmic armor superman so therefore this argument is irrelevant there is in no way that the writers can make invincible stronger
@Syphonus811
@Syphonus811 6 месяцев назад
@@NuclearDabattleground Actually if you knew how writing works, you'd know you can write anything you want. Hope this helps! :3
@TOSH0BOUNDpball
@TOSH0BOUNDpball 6 месяцев назад
I wonder why conquest couldn't regenerate his eye or arm
@badabingbing474
@badabingbing474 6 месяцев назад
I think it was due to a disease
@NoFilterChancla
@NoFilterChancla 6 месяцев назад
The scourge virus weakened their healing factor it's always why he didn't wah a hand no more he couldn't regenerate it cause the virus made them weak
@kingoftherollers2918
@kingoftherollers2918 6 месяцев назад
What comic is the battle with supreme from? I thought I'd read and collected all invincible comics!
@jeffdaking4656
@jeffdaking4656 2 месяца назад
The intro 😂🔥🔥🔥
@Dazzle_Novak_
@Dazzle_Novak_ 6 месяцев назад
If we take Mark vs Thragg in the Sun as their peak it still pathetic to compare with Superman, who only becomes stronger by this. However, if we take Red Star instead, it immediately changes to the opposite outcome.
@1bossofbosses
@1bossofbosses 6 месяцев назад
Thats true and im no Superman fanboy. I must say Superman would still own him. Mark is lucky Superman holds back enough to not explode or rip his oppoents in half.
@user-zv2zz6kn6w
@user-zv2zz6kn6w 6 месяцев назад
Nope. Not even then - supermans' writer would simply invent some excuse, some bull!@#$, to have him still turn the tide and come out on top. You underestimate how cringeworthy DC is.
@AlindBack
@AlindBack 6 месяцев назад
Yes, well, of course the answer here is that Superman is as powerful as the story needs him to be.
@user-zv2zz6kn6w
@user-zv2zz6kn6w 6 месяцев назад
Yes, and whatever story Superman is in immediately becomes trash, cringeworthy, and a complete write-off.
@s4mur4rtist21
@s4mur4rtist21 6 месяцев назад
mark isn't faster than instant teleportation because yes the teleportation is instant but the time it takes to activate it isn't, that's why Cecil isn't able to get there in time its cos it takes a couple seconds to use we saw this in the show when Cecil was with Omni-man and he would be off screen for a couple seconds,
@justcookie7156
@justcookie7156 6 месяцев назад
Mark actually turned into deadpool at the end xd
@davekisman2763
@davekisman2763 6 месяцев назад
Is Mark "invincible" against Saitama's one punch?
@junkimyt
@junkimyt 6 месяцев назад
Technically yes but only until Saitama eventually outscales him like cosmic garou
@GhostCell47
@GhostCell47 6 месяцев назад
No.
@noaharthur9041
@noaharthur9041 6 месяцев назад
​@@junkimytcurrent Saitama already outscales him.
@byronboydstun2222
@byronboydstun2222 6 месяцев назад
Let's talk about the durability of that trash bag that he threw into orbit.
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