IPAD AIR VS IPAD PRO - An Artist's Review 

Lol you’ll get there!

Same

@@legendmaximilian9235 what?? Why would you do that

Same. Just not the part that I bought the device

Lol same

I definitely wouldn't say it's an advantage, But it is noticeable. Especially if you use it for more than just drawing

That flash reference made me chuckle plus the Apple Pencil feature makes a difference in not breaking it accidentally

@@chronictown4330 Ok, explain to me how it "adds up." Your hand and the apps move at the same speed in 60 hz vs 120hz. A drawing does not go twice as fast with a 2x faster refresh rate. If you were to watch "The Hobbit" films at 48 fps, it wouldn't be faster than watching them at 24fps. The difference is the smoothness of the animation. Professional pen displays (like the Cintiq Pro) cost thousands of dollars and they are still 60hz yet somehow they're the industry standard. I know quite a few people on the pro level and I've never heard one say, "60hz is really slowing me down; I should get an iPad Pro!" Seriously, a company like Wacom would be more than happy to charge extra for a 120hz display if professional designers thought it would make a difference. Gamers may notice a difference because games require split second reflexes when you push a button in reaction to what's happening on screen. But that's not how drawing works (at least the way I do it). Having a line update at 1/60th of a second (rather than 1/120th), is not going to alter the course of the line or how fast you draw (at least as far as I can see). The only time I've experienced real lag that actually "slows" down a stroke is when I'm using some gigantic brush that bogs down the CPU (and that will happen on every system, including the iPad Pro). In fact, as is my understanding, such a thing is actually less likely to happen on an iPad Air 4 because it actually has higher single core performance which has more of an effect on the brush engine. I also wonder if you've actually tried alternating these 10-hour-days between a 60hz iPad Air 4 and a 120hz iPad Pro (10.9/11 inch models to keep it fair). I'd be very surprised to see that the different refresh rate somehow slowed you down. But I'd be super eager to see such an experiment and I'd certainly keep an open mind if you prove me wrong. I just think all this focus on the refresh rate is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how the technology works as well as the fact it looks smoother so we think it's more responsive. But if you can give me some empirical data to show I'm wrong, I will happily beg your pardon.

@@maverickpoker7131 Of course, but I'm not denying that it's noticeable. I'm simply saying that the extra smoothness is something which is cosmetic rather than functional. The line will look smoother as will things like scrolling. It's a nice luxury and that's fine but I dislike that so many non-artists reviewers are essentially trying to upsell people on the pricier device by suggesting that the refresh rate will actually impact how you draw with the Apple Pencil. Once again, it's all about what job you want to use a given tool for. If you're buying an iPad for gaming have a lot of games that can actually run at 120fps, then by all means get the iPad Pro (though I'd actually suggest a real gaming rig is a better choice). If if you just think the extra smoothness is cool and worth an extra $200 then go for it. But it's not going to change your art and younger artists as well as people who are less technically informed are often mistakenly lead to believe that more affordable tools will somehow limit them.

@@BeierFilms I think the 60Hz display will only be a minor gripe ONLY if one is so used to 120Hz. Remember that 120Hz display was implimented since 2017 iPad Pros, and many of their owners(including myself) are looking for suitable upgrade candidates now. But of course, you brought an interesting point about Wacom's industry standard tablet displays still on 60Hz. Also, real professionals should have no problems transitioning back to 60Hz because that's the refresh rate most of their tools have had their entire life. Maybe those 'reviewers' who claimed that 120Hz display is better for artists, were simply parroting talking points from Apple's marketing team. After all, iPad Air actually having competent professional use prospects would cannibalize market share from their own iPad Pro lineup which was their main 'for pros' go-to. Of course, iPad Pro also has 2GB more RAM, but I have learned to merge layers as I go along, so even though i draw on 8000px size canvas, layers werent that much a problem with me.

Hi, may i know which type do you buy? The 64gb or 256gb? I also wanted to buy because I wanted the learn digital art. Will 64gb version is enough?? In Indonesia the price became really highhhh. Thank you ☺️🙏

@@rdzy123 I think 64 gb will be alright for you :) unless you have a TON of apps and photos downloaded from your Apple id or the cloud and such

@@quinnfarkas5164 thank you so muccchhhh. I think i'll buy 64gb one 😄

Really having a hard time deciding between an iPad Air (4) 64gb with the magic keyboard and pencil or the new Pro 11” and wait/save for the extras. Wait for it to ship and wait for the pencil and keyboard as I save for a few months to get those accessories. Or get the 64 air. My budget is tight, but I’ll get the education discount. The difference between the 256 air and 128 pro is like $50. But the 64 air would give me room for those necessary accessories and no waiting. I sold my MacBook Air laptop to make this happen. I have a desktop iMac I rarely use. Main use for iPad will be writing papers, web browsing, email, bit of zoom, media consumption and streaming, reading, editing photos, note taking and light drawing. Playing some games. It will be my first iPad in many years and I’m really excited. What would you do? Is 64gb enough?

@@babyboy1971 I think it's depend how much storage you are going to use. We have same main use, but finally I decided to by ipad air 256gb because i may use it for 3-4 years and may want to install several apps.

Yeah I agree totally

Hey I'm an architecture student and I'm also considering buying ipad air 4... As you just bought it can you please share your experience

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I’m in the same bucket myself

As long as you can use an Apple Pencil you’ve very little to be concerned about 😊

Same here, works perfectly.

You mean Air 2019.

Still use my iPad Air 2 - same thing?

Is procreate already on the iPad? Or do you have to download it first

I agree. Especially when we can't reformat the iPad without a mac.

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Spending the extra amount on the gb, you might be better off going with the iPad pro and get the 128gb, since is just 100 dollar different

@@edwinzhang1257 isn’t it better to have more gb in the long run? ) :

@@horchata1643 there's always the cloud you can count on* the problem is that going for air 258gb can get you the iPad pro already

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Happy to help especially if it saves people money 😊

Thanks, James! Have a great Halloween!

Have a great one too! 🎃

Which one have you choose?

@@gattacam3812 I chose the medium impact! I don’t have quite as large as a cup size so for me the medium was better

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I’m getting an iPad for digital art too for my birthday😅

I’m Thinking of upgrading from a iPad 7th standard to a IPad Air for My Birthday next year :D

You made a good choice worry not

Same, can confirm that!

@@aaronbaldovino7797 it's written on the power brick bud somewhere is small writing, have a look it will save 20w ok it somewhere it you have a 20w one

I know right?? 😔

Then the iPad pro sales will dip as the 128gb is best for everyone and almost no one néeds that extra power until apple add power hungry apps.

They had a whole team of people working on how to sell more pros without losing sales. If you’re worried about the 64 on the air you can go with the 128, but then at that price, why not just go for the pro? Bam.

Personally i feel the same way, i have an ipad 7 with 128 gb. It feels like a ‘downgrade’ if i moved to air 4 with 64 gb even though it has better hardware. Though it is still cheaper than the 256 gb since the iCloud subscription for 50 gb is very cheap. But realistically we don’t really know how long will we use our ipads, so in the it’s very confusing 😅 i feel you. I’m just afraid if i forgot to backup and lost all of my works on procreate since i rarely use my icloud.

@@SangKi23 Yeah, exactly. Tho personally at the end I went for the 256gb now. I already use a cloud sub for work, but since I plan on using that tablet for the next couple of years (hopefully) I wanted it to be as futureproof as possible. I have no Idea how large these apps are going to be in a couple of years so ... better safe than sorry, right?

If the drawing experience was at all different then I would have spoken about that, but it feels exactly the same on both devices. Therefore the spec is more important especially how it will relate to apps that keep getting more complex.

The air will be plenty good enough

Thanks Bill, I try to keep the tools generic enough so they can be applied elsewhere, glad they are still useful to you 😊

@@JamesJulier-Artist yea your landscape videos remind me of the approach Bob Rohm uses for oil painting. Been reading his book. He calls it painterly defined by shape, value,color and stroke intent not precisely sketched details.

That’s interesting I’ll have to check him out 😊

Happy to help

The ipad pro is really better

Yeah it'll be a good choice in the long run but i could have saved a significant amount of money

@@pouleart8197 You Can Cancel it

@@mr.oneadvice7273 well its too late now but i should have thought of that.

@@pouleart8197 if you’ve bought it from the apple store, you have 30 days to return/exchange it (probably a bit more because of Xmas). Other shops should have similar policies.

I believe the M1 is the same gen as the iPad air 4, so in terms of lifespan they'll be supported for an equal amount of time if I had to guess. Nothing you've mentioned is a deal-breaker as for your medical school studies, features such as the 120hz screen are very nice to use, especially if you're familiar with high refresh rate monitors, but they provide no actual benefit, and unless you're acclimatised to them you'll probably forget about the 60hz screen soon enough (it also detects input at 120hz so it's rather smooth for a 60hz display. A good inbetween option is the iPad Pro 2020 11", as it's essentially the iPad Air 4 with the extra features and will be priced roughly inbetween the two. The only reason I'd maybe recommend the M1 iPad or the iPad Pro 2020 12.9" is because you mentioned art. If you're serious about art, then bigger screen can be a plus for some, but in all honesty you don't need it if you don't want to buy it. I just purchased an iPad myself and was asking around within art communities and the consensus was that it doesn't matter, some were even working on much older iPads from 2018 and were being paid for their work. If you have the cash to spare and can afford to spend a little extra get a bigger iPad, if not then buy the iPad Air 4, or the iPad Pro 2020 11" if you really want the faster refresh rate.

Well I’m sure you’ll get plenty of use out of it to justify the expense anyway

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Thank you and my pleasure

You should go for 256 gb cuz i dont think 128 will be good, unless you dont play video game or yea but photoshop its very heavy so yea

Tbh im not sure... i think you should google it since if ur buying an ipad for photoshop (full version) it might be a deal breaker

Yeah the air was laminated to the pixel too, so they didn’t mention it for that reason 😊

Thanks! But I meant that maybe I'd missed it from your video (Didn't watch offical unveiling and haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere). Either way, it's good to know. Thanks again ;)

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You’re welcome

Lol it does work but I don’t really use it

This is an old comment but honestly the tumblr app is so broken. And searching things is nearly impossible XD

Thank you so much for this comment. I was confused between the air and the pro and I'm buying it for the sole purpose of digital art using Procreate. This 120 hz is what was making it difficult to choose but if 60 Hz is still smooth and nice using Procreate then the iPad air 4 with 256 GB seems like the best option for my budget and there are really good color options too.

I am on the same boat. I have been watching these artist comparisons to answer that question, since I also want to use procreate for large posters and printed canvases. I think that 6gb of ram probably does mean more layers in procreate, but I also seek advice from a professional artist on this

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fPT4YrSpGrE.html this video will probably help around 3:18 for you guys :)

I dont think the kind of ipad u use affects the number of layers. It depends on the canvas size you choose on the procreate app itself

pls someone answer this man

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64gb is enough for me, i use about 64 on my phone and i have like 10-20gb of useless junk im too lazy to clean

@@user-ww2nd4co2p I only use 20GB on my phone because I have only communication/social media/life management (cal, tasks) apps each are either IOS apps or 200MB each tops (maybe all 2-3GB tops) ... the only space hog is my Sat Nav 2-3GB on my phone. I already have 128gb worth of Apps on my Ipad, ATM i still testing out apps (so I might have several notes apps etc figuring which is the best before unloading the useless ones). But I figure with it might reduce to 64gb for apps alone. I would imagine you need to add 1-2GB of space every year as IOS bloats itself up with new updates.

Good thing they make flash drives for iOS (believe it or not)

There's USB c support right? Can easily get a dongle and move everything into a hard drive

@@rafg.1493 I know it boils down to a budget. If its a phone sure 64 is probably enough. Not as many apps, lesser data/photos can be clouded or ext storage. iPad is closer to laptop usage more apps needing more working storage esp if you are editing video for example. Apple has made it impossible to have working storage on ext storage, an extreme eg will be LumaFusion ... App size < 1GB Working storage could be many GB and you can’t use external storage for your video if that is what you are thinking ... all working video clips are transferred/copied to the working directory. If all you do is to use stock apps and some extra, sure 64+ext storage, but if more work is involved using it as a laptop 256gb is the way to go.

Did you watch the video or not?

The pro for the higher refresh rate and more speakers

@@JamesJulier-Artist yes! Thanks for the reply, this gives me a good perspective to think about

Go with pro then

Thank you I will

Im a digital artist, I used to use my aunts ipad 8th gen (it had procreate) So honestly if you're just starting out its best going for the 8th gen. Its got good storage and I rarely had to delete sketches and such, if you want a tip for saving storage then, always delete useless sketches. You can also simply buy an external drive if storage is still a problem. On another note, performance should be fine for a 8th gen, tho save up for the air and if you really like digital art, go for the pro. Personally as a digital artist who does commissions, Ipad pro is better for business but an air or 8th gen would work great for just a hobby or light business. In short, buy the 8th gen as a starter and work up. Air 4 if you have the money, and pro if you decide you like digital art, it can be very frustrating im telling you that. (This is put mostly in my perspective as I do have experience) If you're using it only for drawing you'll be fine, even then with a few apps it should be alright for ya. Edit: still be careful with storage, procreate can be hell with the file sizes

@@blainepins3684 will ipad air 64gb is enough for someone who wanted to learn digital art? Thank you

@@rdzy123 Yes you should be fine, you'd probably start off with using less layers meaning the file size shouldnt be too bad. If you ended up really liking digital art and actually starting a hobby on it then yes ipad air 4 is perfect and should work well. Have fun drawing :)

@@blainepins3684 thank you so much for replying. I think I'll go for the ipad air 4 64gb, can't wait to have it 😄😄

@@blainepins3684 hi! Thanks so much for the input! Really help me to decide which one to buy. I'll go with 8th gen since i'm just super newbie that trying to learn in digital art.

Hey! It’s a personal image of both my other half’s eye and my own, so I want to keep it private sorry 🙏

@@JamesJulier-Artist how did you get this done? That’s such a cool idea!

It is the iris photos of both me and my better half so it’s too personal to give away sorry

I also have same problem 😔

@@plantobloom2053 ,i didn't pick ipad but Samsung S7 tab I'm happy with my choice , it's his SD card slot

@@rabiia_art ah thank you so much

Hey there, i think it really depends on how long you are going to keep the ipad and what type of illustration you’re doing. If you are a professional who needs high resolution illustration (which takes quite a space in the long run), it might hinder you. Thought it can be solved with consistently backing up your works on an external disk/getting an icloud subscription. But if you are just a hobbyist, i think the 64gb is fine!

@@SangKi23 thank you for your reply. 🙏🙏🙏

Not really that noticeable it’s not that noticeable really

Haha

It’s attached to your purchases on iCloud so only one purchase ever.

That I don’t know!!

Yeah a very valid reason to go Pro!

late reply, but id imagine the pro would be better because of the m1 chip

@@somewhere_forever oh hi! I ended up buying the pro, thanks. It works well :)

@@Neke0525 nicee, did you get the 11 or 12.9?

@@somewhere_forever 12.9 cause I need to use it for school. This thing is huge -bigger than my last Chromebook screen.

Yes definitely if it’s the right price

Do you think the software support will end significantly sooner on the 2018?

If you didn’t know I’m talking about dantdm

It comes down to which is the better choice. The Pro I still say is the better iPad, but it’s a lot more expensive a d actually not that much different. If budget matter get the Air.

@@JamesJulier-Artist Thank you I think I'll get a ipad pro and apple pencil 2nd gen for Christmas

Haha

Yes similar time tomorrow 😊