Remember that whether a phone breaks or not in these very unscientific drop tests largely comes down to the exact spot where impact occurred, and what type of impact. Even on the same surface, you can have wildly different results even with the same phone. You could have a 14 Pro shatter from 2 feet and then a different one be fine from 6 feet, all depending on how they fall.
And he probably had applecare on those devices.. so they will be replaced for new devices only for $99 no matter how much the damage is and how that happened..
A common misconception is that titanium is superior to steel in strength. It is not, it's just lighter at for the same amount of strength because it's less dense. So we shouldn't see a better performance in terms of scuffs and bulks when dropping, but more in over weight.
But if 15 Pro Max weighs less than 14 Pro Max with same amount of strength then it should be able to survive that fall from same level of height, not the other way around. Don’t know why 15 Pro is failing these drop tests.
@@rafdor5131 I watched a dude tear the Iphone 15 and 15 pro max apart, but yes the 15 pro max is a bit concerning (even the regular Iphone 15 is stronger than the pro max)
@@simoney890 I think the shift of design from sharp edges to slight curved edges might be the reason for 15's inconsistent durability. I think the design was so that the back glass was easier to repair.
@@Painfulwhale360 who cares, he’s going to make money from his video plus gets his phones replaced through AppleCare plus got to take a trip to Australia for a “work “. Sounds like a win
Personally this doesn’t bother me either. I never have any complaints about the edges being sharp or anything. I dropped my 14 pro on rocks with no case and maybe rolled over it with my scooter… there’s only two spots on the edges that are jagged now from the rocks. Nothing serious. I also dropped it on a rock while hiking. The screen protector cracked, but not the phone
Saw the breakdown of the iPhone 15 and the reason why the back glass is so fragile is because the backplate, unlike the iPhone 14, is fixed to the phone and not the back glass. One small detail but quite a huge difference
This man flew to Australia to get the phones slightly early 😅 Respect. This man literally living in the future. And I’m sitting here in California waiting for it to be tomorrow 😡😂
You have to remember just because the frame is harder that can actually work against you, because if it does deform, it can push in on the screen permanently and cause a crack. Stainless steel is much more flexible while still having good strength, which can actually be a huge asset because it can absorb some of the shock from the impact rather than sending everything into the screen. Fun fact I had two broken screens when iPhones were only in aluminum. Ever since the iPhone X I’ve had a stainless steel phone ever since every year upgrading to the latest model, and I have never had one crack screener back glass. It seems that that titanium may be harder than aluminum but it when it fails it will fail just as badly as aluminum with permanent indention.
this argument is not convincing because the 15pro is just an aluminum frame + titanium border band, not a titanium frame. what this shows is that this upgrade was not for durability, but for lightweight and design change.
Lmao. This dude flew to Australia, one of the first regions to get the new iphones, just to be the first person to put out a drop test video. Take my like
I would have been interested to see how the phones continue to work and take photos as these tests continue. I do think there is a lot of value in these drop tests to continue dropping until major damage.
Yeah he could have been a bit more detailed with his review however I think he wanted to put out the video as quick as possible to be one of the first few on RU-vid to do drop tests as it may help bring in a lot more views than he would doing a in-depth review as bigger creators would steal the spotlight
I lost my 14 PM in the sea for two days, the waves took it back to the beach and I was able to recover it because it still had 30% of battery. Still working like a champ.
Currently watching this on my iPhone 14 Pro Max and I can’t believe how durable it actually is compared to the 15 Pro. In my personal opinion I prefer a heavier phone it gives me a sense of added durability. Sick video man!
O yea I have a 14 pro and after seeing this, along with that one RU-vidrs video of him snapping the 15 pro glass just by pressing on it…. I’m definitely not upgrading
Na verdade ele foi feito de uma liga de Titanium (mais barato) diferente do aço inoxidável (puro). As empresas querem fazer propagandas pra vender mais, e não apenas materiais melhores, como esperamos!
Some of the issues with the 15 Pro are that; one that the rear panel no longer has a metal back plate, and two, the aluminum chassis doesn’t provide enough rigidity. Apple cheaped out on the frame by making the titanium only a minimal cladding. Stainless steel is a superior chassis and frame.
But if you didn't have the iPhone 14 Pro as a comparison, would you characterize how much abuse the iPhone 15 took before the case was compromised as "gut wrenching"? I'd like to see comparison against other manufacturers.
Now I slightly feel better that I skipped pre-ordering of iPhone 15 pro 😄 it's safer to wait for the reviews and let the hype cool down and then make a decision
Thanks for the tests. Very few reviewers are left with honesty. You are definitely at the top of those honest reviewers. I won't be buying an iPhone 15 for sure thanks to you too.
I wish they keep the flat glass. With the thinner bezels, they could probably make the edge of frame rounded, extend it a little bit outwards (with internal aluminium support) , but keep the flat glass a tiny bit lower than the frame. That would be a lot more durable than switching to a new material.
Titanium was a marketing tactic. 14>15 for durability. Why do you think they make it “easier” for us to fix. Because it’ll break more which means more money for Apple. Don’t let them fool you.
Firstly, props to you my dude. Can’t believe we’re getting a drop test so early when the phone just got released. Secondly, given the fact that the 14 pro is heavier, I really thought it would crack first but wow. I was thinking that the slight curve on the glass might be bad for falls on the glass as my X broke because of that curve but wasn’t expecting it to be that bad. The dark titanium is doing exactly what I thought cause I thought it might be like the black iPhone 5’s aluminium and show the inner colour when it gets damaged. So it looks like stainless steel although it scratches easily takes falls better.
I think what is happening is that titanium being a harder metal, does not disperse shocks as well as stainless steel & aluminum, hence not working well with glass. Not sure how Apple engineers didn't foresee this... This may potentially be the worst iPhone made in terms of durability.
@@ggimtmemes I think you meant 6+. I disagree. Yes, that bent. But the camera housing never fell off & it took a significant amount of force to bend. Plus it had no issues of the screen breaking every time the phone fell, because aluminum disperses shock much better. This on the other hand requires very light pressure to break the back & the glass shatters on the first drop almost every single time. Not to mention the ridiculous price difference between what this costs and what a 6+ costed back in the day.
I have mixed feelings on this. Like many, I have a screen protector and at least a thin case on mine basically from day one. I haven’t experienced an actual cracked screen in a long time. But I can say I am satisfied with this 14PM. This is the first time I’ve felt like I could happily use this phone for longer than two years. I’ll get the battery replaced at some point, but I am thoroughly satisfied with this phone.
Most people still use screen protectors and cases so really this doesn’t bother me either lol , last phone I ever cracked was a galaxy s3 and no idea how it happened, while it was charging
@Mickay1970 yup, got exactly the same. In my opinion, the most beautiful iPhone color ever produced. But I think I will go for a upgrade and go for the pro max 15. And yeah with case and screen protection!😉
Im still thinking which to buy, 14 pro max gold colour or 15 pro max blue titanium. Guys help me out... I love that gold colour, but 15 spec looks better and its 20% faster. I play mobile games like call of duty by the way.
these days I was thinking about which phone to get, because I have an iphone 12 pro max and I didn't know what to choose between the iphone 14 pro or 15 pro, but after this test I was convinced, so I will definitely get the iphone 14 pro. Thanks for this test!!✌️✌️
The back can scratch waaaay easier now with iphone 15 because it no longer sticks to the chassis you can look that on camera the glass is separated and glued to the chassis it was now like the nutella box it will break with a little pressure
Never seen anyone doing that sort of durability test before. You pushed it to the boundaries dude. It looks like iPhone 14 pro is way stronger and resistant to drops than a new 15pro. It is a good reason to consider buying an older model. Hope Tim Cook watches your videos. I wish to see his face now. Embarrassed 😳
stronger metal means glass break easier , like hitting a glass with a titanium hammer and hitting a glass with aluminum hammer , the titanium one will make more damage
The level of constantly rising excitement I had watching this was blissful! The dedication you went through for this was amazing! I promise you: those of us who really appreciate you REALLY APRPRECIATE YOU!
Having today spent 20 minutes with the 15 pro max I came away not impressed with the “titanium” feel of the device. It feels cheaper than the 14 and 13 in build quality and your drop test confirmed my initial impressions. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me that the so called titanium is more marketing of the composite ‘titanium than what we are led to believe about the metal. Apple cutting cost to improve margins!
I bet @apple would like to see that iPhone 15’s damage. I’ve never seen the camera housing cover come off the phone like that before. That’s very interesting to me.
I like how the sides are curved on the 15 Pro. But most people who buy this phone will still put a case on. Therefore, I wish that Apple would go back with the flat sides.
My wife has a pretty new 14 pro with a decent moft case. Dropped it once from waist height in the case and the back glass shattered. 🤷♂️Sometimes if you wanna know if a drop is gonna break your phone, you gotta shake a magic 8-ball first and it will let you know
Remember that the natural titanium model is gonna be the best looking after some drops because the color left after a drop is just gonna be the same. Where as on the others itll shine through, also titanium is really hard to color and anodize Also this is in no way whatsoever a scientific test. The phones are dropped at different angles, different speeds of rotation in the air and dropped on surfaces with differences of topography
No that's true only for natural titanium finish rest all will have a whitish or silver like dent mark cuz the paint is just the upper layer. Underneath titanium will have naked metal colour
While what you say, is very true. I still don't think that you can't deny that the 14 Pro does a way much better job when it comes to this drop test. Even though the angles and different speed/rotations are different. I also agree that the natural titanium is not going to be that impacted when it comes to scratches. I was going for a natural titanium either way because i do think that it's the nicest color of the 4. I also like the white/silver titanium though!
@@DBLCreationsFun fact : Titanium is way more scratch prone than stainless steel. It’s only supposed to be more dent resistant than stainless steel and should provide more protection to the frame which was totally not the case here in this drop test. Looks like they used a cheap quality titanium which they alloyed it with regular aluminium. Just Apple Things I guess.
Whilst I like this the drop location and impact are different for each phone. This doesn’t really tell you anything. When the 15 pro broke on the back the 14 didn’t even land on the back or the corner. Either way cool video.
This was fun to watch! I feel like both of these took quite a bit of punishment and remained usable. I do think the beveled edges work against the 15 series tho!
Even though they're using the same ceramic shield they had the audacity to say it's the strongest glass of any phone... Funnily enough the Victus 2 held up about as well on the S23 to the iPhone 14 Pro, so I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison to the 15 Pro.
Possibly the steel frame on the 14 is more flexible (steel has higher elasticity than titanium) and maybe that's why it absorbed some of the shock and passed less of it to the glass, the rigid titanium passed the shock to the glass
@@PCHelperist You are right, I thought the higher elasticity modulus value of the steel means it's more elastic/flexible but it means it's more stiff. It might be related to the fact that the titanium is just a 1mm sheet that is glued to a sub frame of aluminum?
@@MuhammadO19 Yes probably that's the reason why it's not that well performing compared to the steel frame. Also probably some frame design changes could lead to more flex during the energy absorption phase in a drop. It's very hard to tell without even seeing all the components and geometries of the frame and how the backglas is fixed to it. If I remember the old design correctly the backglas had one almost undisturbed geometry (geometry which not lead stress peaks) but the new ones have a lot of these in the camera area (because of its shark radiuses). But that just some unproven thoughts. As sad it's hard to tell by just watching two videos of it.
Sam Khol deserves MILLIONS of views on every video. He puts so much work in. And is so so nice and such a good human bean. I Love Sam & Jon Prosser. F*ck the Internet haters.
u guys shouldn’t forget that there is always a bit of luck on these drop tests. if the iphone 15 pro had an unlucky first drop, every following drop will crack it even more of course. same with the 14 pro maybe it just landed pretty lucky. but dont get me wrong of course the 14 pro did a better job
Ya, as wasteful as it would be, there would need to be 5 New phone vs 5 Old ones, with a consistent clamped drop. We'd get a way better consensus but also so so wasteful.
You should have done this in slo mo so we could see exactly how they hit the cement. If the 15 pro’s camera is heavier, it can affect how it contacts the ground in comparison to the 14 pro.
I think when Apple changed the internals to make the back panel easily replaceable It might’ve ended up messing up phone’s structural integrity I had that doubt when they announced it
There’s a difference between durability of a broad force trying to bend the material versus resistances to chips and scratches obtained from drops. I’m guessing titanium in theory is better for resistance to scratches and chips overall but worse at resisting an intentional/constant higher pressure bend. A big problem with the testing methodology here though: once the first glass crack happened on the 15, the following increased damage wasn’t entirely a fair comparison. It was already compromised and doesn’t represent what would have happened if an undamaged iPhone 15 had the same happen.
Makes you wonder when Apple sees this video that they might change the design of the rounded edges back to the 14Pro design. 14Pro definitely caught me by surprise. I'll Keep my 14 Pro max for now 💜 Great video!!!
@@noelle47373 If they thought like this they'd use aluminum over titanium. Still very durable & much lighter that steel. They used titanium for the marketing.
you kidding me, Apple didn't do durability test on their iPhones or deliberate to make them less durable for cash in repair services, they know more people are keep use their phone over 5 years
Love the dedication by sam! But it goes to show while apple had made repairability a little tougher on the 14! When apple does things like this! There’s normally a good reason! While the 15 is supposed to be more repairable, the cost of repairability is less durability.
Don't😂 From the heights you are realistically going to drop the phone off, the 15 pro will look nicer after a while. Regardless, even if you say you are going to drop the phone from either of this heights, both phones will end up ugly and you will then buy a case. At that point you'd want the better phone anyways. Besides the 14 has other problems.
Get the 15 Pro/Pro Max, i don't think anyone buys these phones to not protect it and drop it so just go for it. I'll also upgrade from my 12 mini to 15 Pro Max i'm hyped.
Don’t misunderstand Apple… the titanium in 15 pro max only favors in weight reduction not durability… that’s why it’s lighter… so the test is amazing prove that the curves are flawed so we need a body armor for the 15pro max and all the same getting the iPhone 14 pro max weight on 15 …. Just handle with care accident happens but not always… It’s not a weapon but a phone
As someone who has vision issues, the pro is non negotiable for me. I need that LiDAR sensor for the detection features in the magnifier, like point and speak, for instance. I was looking at upgrading to the iPhone 15 Pro Max from the 13 Pro for the extra safety features, bigger screen, dynamic island, and especially USB-c right? Seeing this video just made me nervous. Even though I know I’d put a case on it but wow. Just wow.
I have been waiting for this! Last year when I bought the new Watch Ultra I barely hit it on the edge of the wall and it put a nice gash in side of it, didn't have much confidence in the titanium to holding up after my watch experience. So glad I didn't pre-order as well, can't wait to see more of these types of videos, even though this pretty much was all I needed to make a decision. If you notice after a few of the drops on the 15 you can actually see that frame around the cameras start to show, (Drop #11, 7:27) what's up with that Apple? Awesome content as always Sam and enjoy Australia while you are there mate. Already looking forward to the iPhone 16 next year!!
Once the glass cracks every drop is going to get significantly worse. The 15 Pro internal frame is aluminum and the Titanium is just an aesthetic outer frame. So, the core structure of the phone is actually aluminum, not titanium. That combined with rounded glass transitioning into the rounded titanium means it has no drop protection compared to the glass being fully enveloped by the stainless steel on the 14 Pro. Once again, it was a decision made by Apple to make the phone look nicer in promo shots and in the store, but instantly needs to be hidden by a case once you actually buy it. It leaves me befuddled that companies keep making design choices that look nicer without a case, but are so poor that they force you to use a case.
They made the rear on the new iPhone 15 pro more easily repairable. Doing so has affected the structure and the glass isn’t as fixed in place as previous models. Easily repairable = easily damaged.
This one test does not prove beyond doubt the iPhone 15 has slightly flawed robustness however To make it “easily repairable” they had to consider how the glass is fixed in place and how much glass was in contact with the framework behind it. Watch the teardown videos.
Makes sense, if you think about the Apple Watch Ultra titanium casing they specifically stated they made it flat and not curved so it wouldn’t break. They might be saving a different flat titanium design for the iPhone ultra for max durability.
keep in mind as well, the 15 pro is WAY lighter than the 14 pro, meaning the gravity is pulling on it less, and its STILL getting demolished by the much heavier phone. apple should really test things before they release them 😭😭
Hahaha this is so great. Here I am super excited on iPhone Eve, getting ready to have a good nights sleep to get my iPhone 15 Pro Max in natural titanium tomorrow, and I see that Luke drops a video that he went to get the iPhone early in Australia. I saw your face pop up in the beginning of the video and thought oh my God, so this is what that boy was up to! Now here I am. So great Sam hope you’re having an awesome trip. Can’t wait for the next Genius Bar! 💙
Somehow I managed to shatter the rear glass on my 14 pro after only 6 months of use and maybe 5 drops from waist height. It was in a Casetify case throughout it’s life. I really think there is a large element of luck and impact angle at play here.
Dropped my black IPhone 12 by accident onto a very bumpy concrete surface from literally 5 feet up. Fell FLAT on its back. SURPRISINGLY no cracks on the back or front with the only damage being five minor cuts to the aluminum frame. I was SHOCKED.
There is a trade-off here. In Australian or Singapore dollars, for the 14, the back glass is about a $800 repair. For the 15, the same repair is $300 or so. It's because the back screen can be removed and replaced by itself on the 15, whereas the 14 many internal components are attached to said glass making for a costly repair. On the 15, I speculate that the rigidness on the 14 due to attached components is gone, hence easier to break.
