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Iraqi Tabuk Sniper to 800yds: Practical Accuracy (Two Rivers Arms repro) 

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The Iraqi Tabuk Sniper rifle is based on the famous Yugoslavian M70 type Kalashnikov rifles. Boasting a 23in barrel and manufactured on Yugoslavian/Serbian tooling, in Al-Qadisiya, Iraq. This specific reproduction rifle was made by Two Rivers Arms in Oklahoma.
While many see this as a way of extending the 7.62x39 cartridge's distance, the rifle was categorized to only have a max effective range of 600m. However the rifle has lived on to be an effective "urban sniper" weapon or a platoon-level marksman's rifle, as the marksman is able to interchange and cross-land ammunition/magazines with infantry regulars. This directly solves many logistical issues that a large standing army with lesser logistical support may face.
Fast forward into the 90's and 2000's, US forces entering Iraq now face the Tabuk Sniper as a rifle encountered in the hands of both insurgents and friendly troops from the region.
For more information on the Tabuk Sniper Rifle, we invite you to check out some reports from Miles Vining ‪@silahreport468‬ , ‪@tfbtv‬ , and ‪@ForgottenWeapons‬
Saddam's Mid-Range "Sniper" Rifle: The Tabuk Sniper (Miles Vining, TFBtv)
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The Enigmatic Iraqi Tabuk AKs w/ Miles Vining (Forgotten Weapons)
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Distance Conversions:
150y - 137m
200y - 182m
250y - 229m
300y - 274m
350y - 320m
400y - 366m
450y - 411m
500y - 457m
800y - 732m
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@spoeny
@spoeny 3 года назад
I feel really bad about this, but it calls for a "wE hAvE a DrAgUnOv At HoMe"-meme... Btw: FG 42 in the back! Really looking forward to that.
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 3 года назад
I spotted also a "Ryssän Winsu" (Imperial Russian contract Winchester Model 1895; only model of 1895 that has the "ears" for stripper clips) at the corner of the shooting platform. (that used to be quite popular moose rifle here in Finland back in the day)
@Xerxes1688
@Xerxes1688 3 года назад
And a Type I at that. According to Ian, the SMG replica of the Type I FG has a better trigger that the Type II, a manual bolt hold open (can come in handy since the type I has a stripper clip guide) and it's also more true to the original since both have a milled receiver (and Ian's Type I FG has a brass deflector, which is correct as some late Type I FGs have it). The Type I usually had the ZFG42 scope, which is based on the soviet PU. They also used the ZF-4 on the Type I with a slightly different mount (two tightening knobs instead of just one).
@jregulatori4672
@jregulatori4672 3 года назад
I remember when the Romak's were out and people were calling them "Dragunovs." Back in the days when a Romak would set you back $500. Now a Romak costs roughly what you used to be able to get an NDM86 for from CDNN.
@JPOC226
@JPOC226 3 года назад
I did just that.
@MrConspark
@MrConspark 3 года назад
Great shooting with a somewhat limited range cartridge (compared to 7.62 NATO) Liked the American Sniper snips at the start 😍 Awesome work guys
@AdministrativeResults
@AdministrativeResults 3 года назад
Weird AKs are best AKs.
@mobiletaskforcetau-44arma37
@mobiletaskforcetau-44arma37 3 года назад
Based and ak pilled
@thehallsofvalhalla2788
@thehallsofvalhalla2788 3 года назад
I like both of you guys videos!
@Cynic_6489
@Cynic_6489 3 года назад
hi, dad
@RayTX1337
@RayTX1337 3 года назад
Scope stuck at 400m. Sounds just like an actual Tabuk sniper. :D :D
@JoeMama-mg8gg
@JoeMama-mg8gg 3 года назад
Yeah sounds like u never shot a sniper before u do know that a 50 cal rifle would also be stuck at that range plus this rifle got to 800 y which is between average and good sniper
@vincec.202
@vincec.202 2 года назад
@@JoeMama-mg8gg I'm impressed for an AK patterned rifle. Especially in 7.62X39. That barrel though🤔. 2 more inches and you could fly a flag from it. If you're shooting from inside cover, you're DEEP INSIDE.
@rslover65
@rslover65 2 года назад
@@JoeMama-mg8gg tell us YOU'VE never shot a sniper rifle, with telling us you've never shot a sniper rifle. There is no "stuck at 400" on a .50.
@serpsupreme2976
@serpsupreme2976 2 года назад
@@JoeMama-mg8gg Do you have any idea what you're actually talking about or are you just saying words because you play cowadoody and tarkov? It was a shitty scope design that caused the BDC to get stuck. Where does a different caliber come into play? You're the one who's probably never shot a firearm before here, stop acting like you know guns.
@ng.tr.s.p.1254
@ng.tr.s.p.1254 2 года назад
@@JoeMama-mg8gg le bait
@AHalz
@AHalz 3 года назад
It’s very true that many people think of Iraq as a complete pushover. Fact is, the Iran-Iraq war was a brutal conflict that lasted 8 years and cost Iraq dearly in both manpower and resources. A great book to read is called ‘Saddam’s War’ in which one of Iraq’s most capable generals who wasn’t purged by Saddam (he even led the final defense of Baghdad against invading US forces) stated that Iraq lost nearly every single one of their special forces units in the Iran Iraq war. By the time the US actually fought the Iraqis in the first Gulf war, huge sections of their military just weren’t that interested in fighting a war many saw as pointless. Even during the invasion, vast majority of the Iraqi military walked away from their positions and took their personal weapons home. And here’s the interesting part…Iraq had one of the largest arsenals of weaponry on this planet. Nearly 100 million tons of weapons and ordinance literally vanished from ammunition depots across the country that the US coalition failed to secure. There’s a great link to an article I have about a sprawling industrial complex that spans over a dozen miles, which produced Iraq’s heaviest weaponry and explosives, which was completely stripped down of its contents and contributed heavily to the insurgency that soon followed. So overall, those who think of Iraq as a pushover fail to understand the circumstances, and that type of mentality is what causes us to underestimate our opponents. Before this video, I doubt many people would think of an AK platform as one that could reach out to 800 meters, consistently. But here we have a great example. Just goes to show, don’t judge a book by its cover, and don’t judge an opponent as pushovers. I’ve met plenty of Iraq veterans who didn’t think of the insurgents as pushovers though…
@TheWolvesCurse
@TheWolvesCurse Год назад
also remember that Iran was armed by the US for years, so long Reza Pahlavi was in power, Iran became the worlds 4th strongest military during that period of american aid. when ayatollah Kohmeini took power all the weapons and know how stayed with Iran of course.
@xentiment6581
@xentiment6581 Год назад
And thats with 7.62x39, original version of this platform was chambred in 8mm Mauser and that would perform even better
@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor
And now we find similar enthusiasm about our current administration.
@afinoxi
@afinoxi 3 года назад
At 800 you're essentially firing an artillery lol That drop is real
@Chiefshadow4
@Chiefshadow4 3 года назад
Still better overall ballistics then 300 blackout
@Longshot88
@Longshot88 3 года назад
@@Chiefshadow4 that's really not saying much
@juanmangasmochas1533
@juanmangasmochas1533 3 года назад
What are we looking at, about 30ft drop at 800 yards? LOL
@paintrane1179
@paintrane1179 3 года назад
Yeah I love the 7.62x39 for target shooting within 500 yards. Such a fun round. When he started thinking and tapping on the receiver I was like "You're not gonna hit a damn thing at 800, don't even think about." And then he did it 😳
@paintrane1179
@paintrane1179 3 года назад
@@juanmangasmochas1533 Oh more than likely about 30 feet with that rifle. I've had people at the shooting range yell at me saying I was gonna shoot over the backstop at 700 yards because my barrel was angled up so high for the 500 yard mark 😂😂 you pretty much have to howitzer that bitch at that range 😂
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 3 года назад
EVEN though the Tabuk isn't exactly an accurate rifle, it does represent my idea of a "perfect" DMR spec rifle.... 1) ammo shared with a basic rifleman. 2) moderate magnification optics, 3) access to the open sights for close range engagements and 4) operating system familiar to any personnel in the squad.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 3 года назад
Yeah certainly a cost effective solution for purposes of who it's for. Aka fighting a 14 year old with a rusty g3 lol
@borkwoof696
@borkwoof696 3 года назад
Sharing the ammo with basic rifle men is only a good idea for a DMR if that basic ammo has the ballistics to back up the DM role.
@Darwinist
@Darwinist 2 года назад
@@borkwoof696 The DMR role isn't neccesary to reach much further than the rest of the squad. A little bit maybe, but mostly it's so the squad has the capability to put a few accurate rounds in a specific place at the engagement range of the rest of the squad withh more reliability than can be expected from a basic rifleman.
@AmazonWebService98
@AmazonWebService98 2 года назад
@@Darwinist hence it not being a accurate rifle,
@rmkjb
@rmkjb 2 года назад
@@borkwoof696 logistics will make or break you. best rifle in the world is useless if it's got nothing to fire.
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 3 года назад
800 yards really is pushing it for 7.62x39 at that range. So the fact that it made it is impressive
@Ramon.Santiago
@Ramon.Santiago 3 года назад
With such little walking on too
@Hoplite9
@Hoplite9 3 года назад
If it’s that far away, call the Gunship in.
@Ramon.Santiago
@Ramon.Santiago 3 года назад
@@phillipcowan6234 did you even watch the video
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 3 года назад
@@phillipcowan6234 what? The Tabuk is 7.62x39
@amenalwandawi5801
@amenalwandawi5801 3 года назад
Iraqi engineering
@davidhayes7596
@davidhayes7596 3 года назад
This is an example of how ANY good rifle can be modified just a little in key areas to produce a positive result. Tweaking. Stop gap measure. The AR platform is all about this.
@patriot17764th
@patriot17764th 3 года назад
exactly why I say ak rifles are not bad.
@Benjamin_based
@Benjamin_based 3 года назад
@@patriot17764th AKs are impressive but in terms of modularity...It's not the same.
@NeroLordofChaos
@NeroLordofChaos 2 года назад
@Syphax Atlas I've been seeing rear sight block replacement kits that allow for hotswapping to and from different optic setups with the pull of a pin. The Ak-100 and Ak-12 series rifles really seem to be looking to fix that particular flaw in the platform as well.
@shoelessbandit1581
@shoelessbandit1581 2 года назад
@@Benjamin_based it's modular if you're a dwarf engineer lmao. But yeah you typically build an ak for one purpose and leave it that way while ars you can just pull some pins and your compact carbine is now a dmr
@TheTeodorsoldierabvb
@TheTeodorsoldierabvb 10 месяцев назад
@@Benjamin_based Modularity is somewhere at the end of requirements for a combat assualt rifle. Ease of use, simplicity and reliability are much higher on the list. Your hyper consumer mind is tricking you.
@baylorhenry
@baylorhenry 3 года назад
Newsletter early release gang: WE RISE!
@oOAstratusOo
@oOAstratusOo 3 года назад
Wait a minute, is this a FG42 in the background??!! Cant wait for that 9-hole review.
@rednecksniper4715
@rednecksniper4715 3 года назад
Eh likely a smith machine group copy I can’t wait for the M1895 Winchester Russian contract it’s one of my top 3 dream guns so jealous
@rednecksniper4715
@rednecksniper4715 3 года назад
@@GNP3WP3W it’s not a 22 bud
@PilotTed
@PilotTed 3 года назад
Also saw a K11 in the background, could have been a K31 though.
@-alisoon
@-alisoon 3 года назад
I'm from Iraq, this rifle we use a lot in battles so far🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶
@Jack_Gatsby
@Jack_Gatsby 3 года назад
whose side you were on?
@infilader1642
@infilader1642 3 года назад
@@Jack_Gatsby ahhhh , ISIS war of course
@jeremyemilio9378
@jeremyemilio9378 3 года назад
Allahu Akbar, iraq zindabad!!
@-alisoon
@-alisoon 3 года назад
@@Jack_Gatsby iraqi army
@rohanshirmard2485
@rohanshirmard2485 3 года назад
Who helped you more against isis? Iran or USA?
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary 3 года назад
I remember one of the Iraqi Police guys we were rolling with had a Tabuk, contrary to popular stigma he was a pretty good shot out to 450 lol. Nice job fellas.
@tackytrooper
@tackytrooper 3 года назад
The Stigma Male is very rare and often underestimated.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary 3 года назад
@@tackytrooper Punny. Well played.
@yakmi1116
@yakmi1116 3 года назад
What is the meaning of Stigma? Curious because English isn't my 1st language.
@tackytrooper
@tackytrooper 3 года назад
@@yakmi1116 it's like something socially frowned upon, almost a taboo but more like a negative connotation that follows a person/thing/action for whatever reason. For example ANA had the stigma of being useless, because in most cases, they were.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary 3 года назад
@@yakmi1116 basically means a poor reputation in the general definition of the word.
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 3 года назад
When I saw it was 7.62x39 out to 800 yards I knew it was going to be tough after watching AKOU shooting out to 300
@TheTegas
@TheTegas 3 года назад
@@paulbarclay4114 because there isn't a Tabuk Sniper in 54r
@anperson8329
@anperson8329 3 года назад
@@paulbarclay4114 Because that's a PSL
@charisperissos1320
@charisperissos1320 3 года назад
Rob has stretched it out all the way to 600 yards. He has a 500 and 600 yd video
@signs80
@signs80 3 года назад
@@paulbarclay4114 This is more meant to be a Mk12 SPR kind of rifle, a squad designated marksman rifle and not a sniper rifle
@signs80
@signs80 3 года назад
@@paulbarclay4114 No way is someone shooting 1100+ yards consistently with an SPR, even with 77gr SMKs the velocity and accuracy of the SPR platform is going to mean you're putting rounds in a 2-3 foot wide area at best, and that's ignoring the terminal effects at that distance which are going to be subsonic 55gr projectiles, like getting hit with a .22 LR. Plus this thing is still an SPR in concept, it uses the same ammo as the rest of the squad and is meant to reach out to 600 yards.
@deniscleaver7544
@deniscleaver7544 3 года назад
This is some damn fancy shooting with the 7.62x39mm. Keep up the good work. I'm lucky to hit at 800 meters with the 7.62x51 nato round, minus wind.
@kamaangirthearcher
@kamaangirthearcher 3 года назад
Excellent shooting and video! A couple of observations that I would like to offer on the Iran Iraq war, a fair bit of fighting was done in built up areas, the opening offensive was against Khoramshahr that took over a month for the Iraqi army to capture because of the stout defence put up by the civilians and the paramilitary forces (the regular army was too slow to mobilise due to having its officer class decimated by revolutionary government purges). Where the battles were in open ground it was trench warfare of ww1 era tactics with massive human wave attacks, due to the embargoes that Iran was put under after the 1979 revolution and the American embassy siege, Iran was facing massive shortages of war materials and knew that it could not compete with Iraq in a war of attrition. Iran's advantage as the revolutionary government saw it was that it had a much larger population and could sustain larger human losses than the Iraqi forces could. In this context 7.62x39 would arguably be more effective than a 7.62x54 Dragunav. Pre 1979 Iran was the regional power under the Shah with the latest US fighter bombers, British tanks and German weapons, Iran was producing G3 rifles under licence, I have not been able to determine whether it was building rifles from receivers made in Germany and some locally produced parts or producing everything in house, as some Iranian G3's have German markings on the receivers. I hope that adds some context to the history.
@that_guy_3714
@that_guy_3714 3 года назад
As excited as I was for the tabuk that winchester 1895 in the background is rustling my jimmies
@GirthBrooks1050
@GirthBrooks1050 3 года назад
Because you have real taste
@Magicalamazing
@Magicalamazing 3 года назад
7.62x54R lever cannon yes please!
@kentgoldings
@kentgoldings 3 года назад
You like the way 7.62x39 just kisses the target at 800 yards? I handload these Nosler ballistic tip hunting bullets for my 7.62x39 bolt gun. Even pushing the powder charge to the limit of the specs, the farthest I’ve hit is 700 yards. But, the effect was pretty much the same.
@rring44
@rring44 3 года назад
You still die when you get shot at 800 m right?
@kentgoldings
@kentgoldings 3 года назад
It won’t feel good.
@rikertvonfulton16
@rikertvonfulton16 3 года назад
You have that cool little CZ ?
@kentgoldings
@kentgoldings 3 года назад
Ruger American Ranch. The poor man’s option. It’s a handy little bolt gun.
@rikertvonfulton16
@rikertvonfulton16 3 года назад
@@kentgoldings nice!
@milivojnonkovic4151
@milivojnonkovic4151 3 года назад
Tabuk rifle is a yugo rpk with a scope, when saddam wants an ak to be everything
@throwaway.mp4931
@throwaway.mp4931 3 года назад
Logistics is a thing and it was needed for a role and fullfilled that role problem solved.
@windwalker5765
@windwalker5765 3 года назад
@@throwaway.mp4931 IIRC the Iraqis didn't use the PK series either, so they had no 7.62x54R weapons in their inventory. They used the RPD as their light and medium machine gun, accepting the lower range and power for a simplified supply chain.
@brianhoxworth3881
@brianhoxworth3881 3 года назад
You are right that is a yugo for sure , first thing I thought
@dragod7233
@dragod7233 3 года назад
@@throwaway.mp4931 that is great for logistics but 7.62x39 is BAAD for DMR role , every other rifle calliber is better
@jasip1000
@jasip1000 3 года назад
It look like a Yugoslav Zastava M76, but with a ordinary 7.62x39 mm AK mag.
@Kickstart_KDE
@Kickstart_KDE 3 года назад
Damn 800 with a 7.62x39mm. Increase the barrel length and it still comes down like artillery. Reminds me of a recce rifle I saw on SOFREP
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 3 года назад
Well most intermediate caliber DMR's are doctrineraly only meant to go out to 600 yards so the fact that it made it out to 800 yards is impressive
@juanmangasmochas1533
@juanmangasmochas1533 3 года назад
I threw it into a simple ballistic calculator and we’re talking about about a 30ft drop at 800 yards. LOL
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 3 года назад
@@juanmangasmochas1533 I mean as long as you have a BDC thats calculated for 7.62x39 bullet drop isn't really an issue. The scope Henry is using is calibrated out to 800 meters
@tarantulathree-one8013
@tarantulathree-one8013 3 года назад
@@nemisous83 Do you know how major 30 feet drop is at 800?
@juanmangasmochas1533
@juanmangasmochas1533 3 года назад
@@nemisous83 Someone on another comment did the math for real and it’s about 35’. Either way, the wind would eat our lunch on that long a shot… and I’m an AK’er! 😆
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 3 года назад
RPK practical accuracy next? Also I've also considered this a very akin to the Mark 12, not surprised that yall made the same parallel
@andrewgates9333
@andrewgates9333 3 года назад
Semi auto rpd after rpk.
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 3 года назад
@@andrewgates9333 that'd be cool, probably not gonna happen soon though
@Rupan-rx
@Rupan-rx 3 года назад
Might not be great if a lot of aes10b have similar accuracy that mine is pushing out.
@andrewgates9333
@andrewgates9333 3 года назад
@Vince yes.
@WallStreet-ou3ub
@WallStreet-ou3ub 2 года назад
People laugh at this but the think the is mark 12 is cool literally the same
@thaedleinad
@thaedleinad 3 года назад
I did a Tabuk clone in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. with mods (it was a RPK with PSO-1, to be honest), I love this thing.
@dillensummerlin3225
@dillensummerlin3225 3 года назад
I love this...but then the Russian contract Winchester hanging around stole the thunder for me I cant wait for that one!
@theshocker4626
@theshocker4626 3 года назад
I was really worried about that FG falling off the table
@sprescav
@sprescav 3 года назад
We all did..
@Ahmad-oi9cu
@Ahmad-oi9cu 3 года назад
@@sprescav not really
@Ahmad-oi9cu
@Ahmad-oi9cu 3 года назад
@Ivan Ivanoff what..... I just said that because I didn't even look at the rifle
@timewave02012
@timewave02012 3 года назад
Haven't they tested a bunch of rifles with higher replacement cost than an SMG FG42 reproduction? Those things are looking downright affordable in this market.
@samehaibdah26
@samehaibdah26 3 года назад
@Ivan Ivanoff bruh
@manofchaitea6904
@manofchaitea6904 2 года назад
Iraq had the 3rd largest standing army in the world during the first gulf war. They were not push overs and they had war experience, we had the technology advantage and it took 3 countries to basically out number them. Ultimately what made life easier for us was that, sadam sent away alot of his fighter aircraft, thus making it far easier to gain air superiority, which was his downfall. In the iran and iraq war, we actually helped iraq, regardless that we knew they were a sponsor of some terrorists. Though in iraq itself, sadam kept them at bay, he was a bad man, but he did keep the crazies in check. Had the war with iran not happened, his military would have been larger, I believe it was around 1.3 million soldiers. I get why iran doesnt like us, and our foreign policy is absolutely shit. Our biggest middle east ally is the largest funder of terrorism (saudi arabia) The 2nd being israel, Iran not nearly as much as people are led to believe, but hey.. We need those boogie men to keep that war machine going for israel. P.S- The Rifle is great, reliability is there, ammo commonality and a few tweaks, plus match ammo, it could be very effective.
@williejohnson1732
@williejohnson1732 2 года назад
That probably didn't help that he tried to fight the us toe to toe, instead of doing playing dirty like vietnam did
@mace_felloutthe_windu
@mace_felloutthe_windu 3 года назад
God, I love that intro music.
@calholli
@calholli 3 года назад
God says thanks but he didn't make it.
@milivojnonkovic4151
@milivojnonkovic4151 3 года назад
And it did not have help serbi but from socialist yugoslavia and serbia was a part of yugoslavia
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 3 года назад
Yeah I misspoke on that during the day of. I've worked with serbs, macedonians and bosnians enough to know, but this slipped my tongue since Zastava is in current serbia.
@farmerbrown84
@farmerbrown84 3 года назад
I would have called engaging a target at even 500m with that rifle fairly speculative!
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
I have engaged and hit 600m targets with mine while getting ready for a competition...
@mohawk3371
@mohawk3371 3 года назад
Henry has repeatedly completed the course with iron sighted AKs chambered in 7.62x39. And he has done it in worse wind conditions and shorter barrels so the wind drift was way worse. I had no doubt about reaching 500m. If anything I'm surprised how poorly it performed compared to other AKs tested on the channel.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 3 года назад
The idea that AKM rifles can't be very accurate has more to do with user expectations than the gun's own mechanical limitations, as AKMs have been found to be as good as 2 MOA. Tabuks were specifically chosen from the best of Iraq's available Kalashnikovs with that in mind. Mind, on average, AKMs won't comfortable do 4'' groups at 200 yards, but enough can to make a tolerable if not spectacular DMR.
@JohnDoe-nf7up
@JohnDoe-nf7up 3 года назад
@@genericpersonx333 realistically speaking 2moa is functionally accurate for the caliber. Outside of a desert you wouldn't really be taking shots over 350-400 yards with most engagements being fairly close
@TheLazyFinn
@TheLazyFinn 3 года назад
@@JohnDoe-nf7up Especially if you consider that this rifle is most of the time going to meet urban environments
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 3 года назад
Me, from Romania : "That ugly scope looks like something built here." Got my confirmation a few minutes later.
@jwcross6110
@jwcross6110 3 года назад
At 6:30 let’s not miss the fact that he just slid in that his holdovers/holdunders were just as precise as the scope’s internal adjustments once they fixed the scope. Well done.
@villesimonen4481
@villesimonen4481 3 года назад
Fuck, this made me miss my sako RK95 with acog even more :(
@ML-762
@ML-762 3 года назад
Boating accident?
@villesimonen4481
@villesimonen4481 3 года назад
@@ML-762 Finnish military issue, we used it as an dmr.
@Rake3577
@Rake3577 3 года назад
@@villesimonen4481 how accurate was it ?
@villesimonen4481
@villesimonen4481 3 года назад
@@Rake3577 if a remember correctly like 1 moa or so. Not anything out of this world but accurate enough. We had issued match ammunition go go with it and acog bdc was specifically calculated to finnish loading of 7.62x39. We shot those out to 600 meters with good results.
@echodelta2172
@echodelta2172 3 года назад
@@villesimonen4481 not to mention Finnish 7.62x39 is arguably the finest in the world
@koolaidman007
@koolaidman007 3 года назад
I see that FG-42 back there.
@renelopez2244
@renelopez2244 3 года назад
Yup
@devil5cry
@devil5cry 3 года назад
Soon™
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 3 года назад
That FG-42 just sitting there casually is such a tease...
@dylananderson4421
@dylananderson4421 3 года назад
Great video as always guys. Would be very curious to see more info on how barrel length/velocity affects the accuracy of 7.62x39. I'm also wondering if that contributes to the preconception that the SKS is more accurate than the AK. 20 inch barrel vs 16. I know the Chinese SKS in your test displayed some vertical stringing and was less accurate than a typical AK. Would send you my Yugo SKS for testing. 22" barrel, non-chromed bore, and one awful trigger.
@john88benson
@john88benson 3 года назад
Is that a Winnie 1895 Russian Contract on the table?
@jh8146
@jh8146 3 года назад
Oooh. Good eye. I was wondering.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад
Looks like it has the stripper ears on it...
@hotshot8944
@hotshot8944 3 года назад
One of ur fans from Iraq🇮🇶🇺🇸😎
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 3 года назад
Hi guys!
@Mohammed_Amer..2003.
@Mohammed_Amer..2003. 2 года назад
Me to 🇮🇶
@Henschmen38
@Henschmen38 3 года назад
NEWS LETTER GANG IS HERE TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU
@galamonkey
@galamonkey 3 года назад
Scopes elevation knob: “Am I a joke to you?”
@galamonkey
@galamonkey 3 года назад
@Otten Star I know, I’m just referring to the insane drop on a 7.62x39 at that range
@mkgzt
@mkgzt 3 года назад
@@galamonkey you can't use a scope designed for 7.62x54r and use it for a 7.62x39 rifle lol
@afkirby
@afkirby 3 года назад
@@mkgzt why not? as long as you know how the bullet behaves in relationship to the BDC it shouldn't be too much of an issue, also the scope's ability to dial would be unaffected.
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 3 года назад
@Otten Star *laughs in 6.8mm/.270*
@chucknoris7648
@chucknoris7648 3 года назад
@Otten Star 6.5 is a barrel burner
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 3 года назад
Hey! 2 Rivers is in my home town! They never let me hang around the shop.
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
It really helps if you are bringing them paying projects. I have had the full tour while they were doing work,on my rifles, the last one was adding the original front end on my M-91.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 3 года назад
Try bringing beer.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 3 года назад
Anyone know their favorite brewski?
@brandonschwertley2723
@brandonschwertley2723 3 года назад
AKM=M4 Tabuk=M16A4 with ACOG The Tabuk allows for local marksman firepower to be brought to bear, without encumbering the unit/soldier with the problems that come with a full power DMR like an SVD, PSL, SR25, etc. Definitely an interesting idea, that is completely counter to the original soviet concept for the rifle.
@henrygonzalez360
@henrygonzalez360 3 года назад
Well said brother.
@Amac1825
@Amac1825 3 года назад
Drooling over the FG42 in the background
@Tex1680
@Tex1680 3 года назад
My personal take on the longer barrel with the 7.62x39 is that it may not get much more velocity but provides more surface area for a longer time to give more spin stabilization to the bullet itself and a full burn of propellent keeping the extreme spread of velocity and BC to a minimum from shot to shot. For example instead of shots having having a spread of 50-120 FPS it may bring it down to 10-20 fps keeping the path of travel for the projectile more consistent. Just my though on it.
@honkhonk6443
@honkhonk6443 2 года назад
Mutt: AK is inherently inaccurate Iraqi: *shoots his head off from 300m*
@Magicalamazing
@Magicalamazing 3 года назад
Is that a Russian 1895!? That will be cool, really looking forward to it :) I REALLY want one of those haha
@Deanosaurous
@Deanosaurous 3 года назад
If you can find one, I'd love to see a Madsen M47 work the service rifle range.
@tsmgguy
@tsmgguy 3 года назад
Have the same Two Rivers Tabuk S and love it. I'm using a POSP 400m Simonov scope for 7.62x39 with a SVD mount. This scope has aiming chevrons for 100, 200, and 300 meters. I've found that this is about all the rifle is good for. Bullet drop with Wolf military classic ammo is about 62 inches at 400 yds. At 800 yards, drop is 490 inches, so a shot at that range is a real hail Mary!
@darthmartinez
@darthmartinez 3 года назад
The yugo Zrak scopes do sit lower and over the bore and are not offset.
@muhammedn.aihumaidi848
@muhammedn.aihumaidi848 3 года назад
صناعة عراقية رائعة
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
Going back and forth here between the comments and the video. I will just keep editing this post. Barnaul is probably the closest you are going to get to a consistent match load before going to something expensive like Lapua. I was using Hornady SST in mine but I was getting similar performance out of my rifle as if a I had been using the much cheaper Barnaul. For my next competition I am planning on running Barnaul JHP in it. Let’s just say that a certain small but well known manufacturer has some very unkind things to say about Miles and some of his knowledge. If ya’ll want. I can provide both a Zastava M-76 and a Zastava M-91 for you to use in your tests. According to TRA, the Romanian LPS is also fully correct to use on this rifle.
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 3 года назад
I was mostly listening to the audio and for some reason what caught my attention is when you said "This video" instead of "This episode"
@whydat684
@whydat684 3 года назад
This guy always impresses me with his shooting .He gets something out of every weapon he picks up.
@CondavourTalksGuns
@CondavourTalksGuns 3 года назад
Newsletter gang is real.
@sportsman48
@sportsman48 3 года назад
Ballistics data quotes 511 inch drop at 800 yards with a 100 yard zero... Holy bananas
@wesleybullard9472
@wesleybullard9472 3 года назад
And people say the AK is inaccurate lol 😂
@calholli
@calholli 3 года назад
He was already missing at 250
@wesleybullard9472
@wesleybullard9472 3 года назад
@@calholli but made hits out to 800 👍
@calholli
@calholli 3 года назад
@@wesleybullard9472 I can make a basket from half court... doesn't make me consistent at free throws.
@alexmoore1506
@alexmoore1506 3 года назад
@@calholli well ultimately I don’t think anyone is gonna take it out that far without a certain setup. It’s accurate enough for what it usually needs to do like make torso hits within may 250 yards.
@wesleybullard9472
@wesleybullard9472 3 года назад
@@calholli but Henry is consistent with his marksmanship and neither one of us are LeBron James so what’s your point lol
@maksemoosabedalla6139
@maksemoosabedalla6139 3 года назад
American soldiers were being hunted with it after 2003, I assure you, it was a very effective weapon here in Iraq at the time.
@Mohammed_Amer..2003.
@Mohammed_Amer..2003. 2 года назад
Yes
@SuspiciousGanymede
@SuspiciousGanymede 3 года назад
An extra 200fps takes 7.62x39 out to 800yds, now the SKS seems more viable.
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 3 года назад
Because it still is... Man, it was the very last, mass produced (in the millions), semi automatic, wood and steel, clip loading, bayonet wielding, superbly reliable, simply effective, monster's and gentleman's rifle ever made... Ironically, it was a Russian invention. That is to say that, the one nation on planet earth who could really care less about looks, and only care about functional utility, just so happen to invent the most mature and complete iteration of the self loading rifle in history. For them it just simply must work. Which just so happens to be released at the very zenith of WW2 rifle deaign, only to be supplanted like five minutes later, by a select fire, high capacity rifle three orders of magnitude more effective. But none of that negates the still usable real world practicality of having a decently powerful semi auto SKS that is thin,, compact, with a short length of pull, that handles well tactically, and if desired, can run bananas or drums. I prefer to think of it as a well refined fighting tool from a different era. Especially the Yugoslavian ones. Where does one find 22mm NATO rifle grenades, because those look like fun? As comfortable as a good hunting rifle, but with exponentially greater capability than a standard bolt gun. Built around the hard realities of lessons learned in actual combat experience, having tactical utility and battlefield reliability as the highest criteria in mind. And ease of production matters. Really good guns get made in very high numbers. Because they are repeatedly a good compromise between cost and effectiveness. Henry can go eight hundred yards on 7.62x39mm, I'll be content with anything decisive inside of three hundred. Because how often would you actually need to engage a known viable threat outside that distance? Can you identify that threat with enough certainty to feel morally justified in pulling that trigger? But if you do have to suddenly decide to squeeze, making hits with a decent SKS is very possible. Probable. Even likely.
@keepbman
@keepbman 3 года назад
@@BeingFireRetardant effing well said brother! So many internet warriors out there losing their mind over the inherent problems with SKS, but like you said, it's a proven reliable handy carbine that puts rounds in the general direction you point it. Nuf said
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 3 года назад
@@keepbman One additional bonus I think, to running stripper clips, outside of just being kinda cool, is the weird little thought process as you are looking down into the chamber thumbing 10 in the hole... That is, just like running a bolt gun, or a shotgun... you only have this many rounds to work with, so make 'em count. Call it a psychological force multiplier that strongly encourages precisely accurate shot placement, lol. (And yet, in seconds, with a partial field strip, you can drop the internal mag, and provided you bought quality, slap in a quick detach 20/30/75 magazine in the rifle, and maintain a sustained base of fire in an emergency.) Same rifle, different purpose. Plenty useful.
@talltale9760
@talltale9760 3 года назад
Get a ak
@fazerswinky2766
@fazerswinky2766 3 года назад
@@talltale9760 wich model?
@alisultanalzmaan3572
@alisultanalzmaan3572 3 года назад
جيد جداً ممتاز عراقي (Iraqi )
@user-AA.
@user-AA. 3 года назад
A simple introduction : Juba's rifle .
@abwoturab29
@abwoturab29 3 года назад
It's mayde the best sniper rifle you can fight with in Iraq, specifically in Baghdad because the geographic range of fight it can happen in zone circle between 300 to 400, It's rarely hit the 500 meter zone, this rifle made for the city fights
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 3 года назад
Josh makes those 500 yd shots with that 7.62x39 cartridge look easy.
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
Honestly, with this rifle and a 4x POSP. It kinnda is easy......
@lvcsslacker
@lvcsslacker 3 года назад
@@winkleried you underestimate my suck.
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
@@lvcsslacker Strong possibility of it...
@iraqtiger
@iraqtiger 3 года назад
Iam from iraq I have one. Tabuk rifle i hit 500m targets too many time, but 800m you great sniper dude we passed 😭
@NomadicHacker.
@NomadicHacker. 3 года назад
Very impressive. Big fan of the cartridge
@driffbro3380
@driffbro3380 2 года назад
Who isn't?
@U80_4
@U80_4 11 месяцев назад
This rifle was specially made to hit Americans in the heads 😂, long live Iraq, no one on this planet can defeat us because we love wars 🇮🇶🔥
@swagmang4496
@swagmang4496 3 года назад
Two Rivers Arms is the best in the business. They do absolutely phenomenal work.
@winru2
@winru2 Год назад
Do they still make these rifles? Are they all us made parts or imported surplus parts?
@sheepman6291
@sheepman6291 3 года назад
800 yards for a 7.62x39 is ultra good.
@JeremiahHartmanPhotography
@JeremiahHartmanPhotography 3 года назад
Great video! Definitely agree that it's a great DMR for urban enviornment. PSL for open areas and a Tabuk for city...
@jamesahoffman
@jamesahoffman Год назад
That gun would be a monster on the range with a working scope! (Modernized lpvo for 7.62x39mm?)
@rikertvonfulton16
@rikertvonfulton16 3 года назад
Was able to find a 7.62 x 39 velocity by the inch table. Interestingly 23 inch barrel length was the maximum for velocity increase before friction seemed to start to slow it down. Also interestingly the velocity increased less than 200 fps from 16 inch to 23 inch.
@hippoace
@hippoace 3 года назад
whoever designed this rifle had done the homework
@iak706
@iak706 2 года назад
I chrono compared my 23" tabuk to a 16" ak and found a difference of about 120fps difference using the same ammo.
@sweetkiller9696
@sweetkiller9696 3 года назад
I hope you can show some really old guns like the lebel 1886 and berthier that were used in ww1 and in some numbers in ww2
@glueguzzler9548
@glueguzzler9548 3 года назад
Have you guy thought of taking a Model 1917 out to 500, its apparently the greatest bolt rifle of WW1 and thought to be the greaatest bolt action combat rifle by many. The original design was based on long range accuracy so itd be interesting to see what it could do
@awast-iz4nv
@awast-iz4nv 3 года назад
Reason 7.62×39 very Difficult
@cadetleo1696
@cadetleo1696 3 года назад
I LOVE this rifle It’s just a great piece of weaponry
@tengu190
@tengu190 3 года назад
Would a Zastava M72B1 with the heavier barrel and adjustable gas block fare better?
@kencoffman7145
@kencoffman7145 3 года назад
Great stuff as always! Would it be possible to see a 30/30 7.62x39 side by side? I'd love to see the new lever action ammo against the military round out of similar length barrels.
@paulharveu526
@paulharveu526 3 года назад
Do my eyes spy a Win1895 in 7.62x54R leaned against the railing?
@GirthBrooks1050
@GirthBrooks1050 3 года назад
That’d be super rare. I’d wager it’s in .06 or .30-40 Krag. Doubt the guys would pick the chonky 405 boy as Teddy Roosevelt intended #BigMedicine
@_e5es
@_e5es 3 года назад
It is made by my country, Iraq, as it is the extermination of the Marine battalion by Juba😍😍
@anaskurdi5275
@anaskurdi5275 3 года назад
Juba use بندقية قادسية Not tabuk.
@eodinert
@eodinert 3 года назад
Made by Serbians, in Iraq.
@normann4016
@normann4016 3 года назад
yeah, boyz, nice results for cartridge, weapon and caliber...
@EvanDickersonM81
@EvanDickersonM81 3 года назад
looks like a rpk without the bipod
@posmatracanonimni_com
@posmatracanonimni_com 3 года назад
Im waiting my M76 on the test ( 7,9 ) And please, please do not use the PPU amunition.
@zelenizub2036
@zelenizub2036 3 года назад
Only ammo that should be used is yugo M75.
@hollisbankston5822
@hollisbankston5822 3 года назад
What movies is the scene from the Iran-Iraq War taken from? Looks interesting...
@fahimalvi9521
@fahimalvi9521 3 года назад
I am still amazed you guys managed a 7.62 x 39 rifle shoot up to 800 yards. The bullet falls like a rock after 300. This is way beyond the limitations of the caliber. Another great video as always
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
Is it the limitations of cartridge, or shooter?
@fahimalvi9521
@fahimalvi9521 3 года назад
@@randomidiot8142 the cartridge. It isn’t really a long rage effective cartridge.
@alexmoore1506
@alexmoore1506 3 года назад
@@fahimalvi9521 pretty doesn’t have a good weight to powder ratio for taking out real far consistently.
@dwi2921
@dwi2921 3 года назад
@@fahimalvi9521 Was never ment to be long range truth be told. USSR was thinking close up engagements. At least that's my read on the situation. To be fair to the 7.62x39 it WAS a pretty advanced cartridge for 1940's technology.
@fahimalvi9521
@fahimalvi9521 3 года назад
@@dwi2921 I agree with you
@shanstate7862
@shanstate7862 3 года назад
Good 👍 ၶိုၵ်ႉၶႅမ်ႉ​တေႉၶႃႈ 👍👍👍
@jordandontworryaboutit2808
@jordandontworryaboutit2808 3 года назад
I was surprised to see that round making it that far….platform really makes a huge difference
@toddsilverberg5229
@toddsilverberg5229 3 года назад
You should do another AK accuracy comparison, you should do it with a NPAP, ZPAP, WBP Fox, a Galil, a Galil Ace, a Valmet, a SA85, a Tantal, a East German, and a American model.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 года назад
Yep, first thing I thought of was American Sniper
@ahoneyman
@ahoneyman Год назад
It's an interesting take on the DMR role. The primary focus is ease of integration and logistics over terminal performance. Compared to an average soldier with an average AK this gives a person quite a bit more capability without really any special needs.
@briantindle7115
@briantindle7115 3 года назад
I'd be curious as to what that rifle and some Lapua match ammo could do.
@furr7497
@furr7497 3 года назад
"its not about the gun, its all about person who use the gun"
@patrickgjorven7832
@patrickgjorven7832 3 года назад
That FG42 on the table was making me drool a little.
@BattleChemist
@BattleChemist 2 года назад
I did my version of a Tabuk sniper based on the Romanian AES-10 (sometimes called the AES-10a because of the -10b version) and put a 2.5-10x44mm scope onto a side-mount pic-rail over-bore. It will hit 8" targets out to 400 yards all day with Wolf black box 123gr HP and I love the lines... such a sexy rifle. I put a Romanian wire folding stock on mine... so no cracked stock like on that lovely repro.
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 3 года назад
When are we going to see a PSL-54 grace the range?
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
Considering they had one in the background, I would say it was on the same day...
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 3 года назад
Call my comment a nudge.
@Stanislav_K-99
@Stanislav_K-99 3 года назад
I see an FG 42 on your left and I wonder when you will make a video for it
@Je3perscre3pers
@Je3perscre3pers 3 года назад
Im curious what a 20 inch 300blk can do now
@jacobackley502
@jacobackley502 3 года назад
Out of a 24 inch 300blk bolt gun, I got a 125gr SST up to 2600 fps using a compressed load of lil gun. That bullet has a G1 bc of about 0.3. At 500yds it had 15ish MOA of vertical holdover and retained velocity ivo 1400 fps. It really wasn't bad, per se, but the accuracy wasn't really good enough to reliably hit an 8 inch plate at that range. It was maybe a 2moa set up on a good day.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
@@jacobackley502 sounds like what my 7.62*39 does, but at lower pressure. I can't push the same pressure a blackout can in the ar platform. Supers in a blackout are unfortunately handicapped a bit by a short case and lots of room for a bullet in the mag, one of the reasons why the 7.62*40 Wilson is around. It's still not 'bad' ballistics though, it's useful and practical for a lot of people/uses.
@jacobackley502
@jacobackley502 3 года назад
@@randomidiot8142 Oh yeah. You have to realize these rounds were in the 65kpsi range, I'm not sure I'd shoot them out of an AR. The gun could probably take the pressure but the bolt velocity would be way higher than normal in a gun built to run both subs and supers. This was mostly just to fuck around and find out what would happen. That rifle was really built for super quiet subs, not the nonsense I did with it.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
@@jacobackley502 some people would. Sounds like the 70k region is where things really start to show weakness but 62-65k isn't super crazy. But I wouldn't want to drop those in a gas gun tuned for subs either.. if you built it for subs, what twist did you go with? It's been noted that fast twist barrels tend to be slower than slow twist barrels.
@jacobackley502
@jacobackley502 3 года назад
@@randomidiot8142 this was a custom barrel blank with a 1:4 twist. I don't know if it was any slower than a 1:7 or 1:10, since I've never seen another 24 inch 300blk. It worked very well with some insanely heavy cast bullets. I had a custom "powder coat special" mold made by Accurate Molds that was a grooveless 280gr .309. I would load it over 4gr of power pistol and get around 800 fps. It was super quiet even without a can. It was hollywood quiet suppressed.
@Midland1072Productions
@Midland1072Productions 3 года назад
so it's effectively an RPK with a small mag, scope and different stock
@scottsaylors1996
@scottsaylors1996 3 года назад
Iraqis did something genius here
@Mohammed_Amer..2003.
@Mohammed_Amer..2003. 2 года назад
thanks 🇮🇶
@GeN56YoS
@GeN56YoS 2 года назад
In Arabic we say "the need is the mother of innovation" when you're fighting a neighboring country that is 3 times your size and are motivated by religion to use mass human waves tactics based on the believe that your country is part of their historical and religious land. You must do genius shit fast or you'll be swallowed.
@SimonUdd
@SimonUdd 3 года назад
Get the m96 swedish mauser its called the king of Mausers for a reason and it’s in the great 6,5x55
@2Aknight762
@2Aknight762 3 года назад
I've chronoed 7.62 x 39 from my AK with a 16 inch barrel and a 20 inch AR build and it only gained 35 to 50 fps. I was shooting S&B fmj which is the hottest I've ever tested at 2500 fps from the 16 inch barrel. If anything that long 23 inch barrel might even slow the bullet back down a little.
@lucastonoli3256
@lucastonoli3256 3 года назад
Yeah, that 23 inches barrel never made any sense to me. The RPK74 was also a head-scratcher, not sure how it behaves with the spicier loads the Russian army uses, but - for what I've seen - it doesn't make much sense for the more regularly available 5.45 either (probably barely any benefit on that one).
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
The longer barrel does make for milder report which could have practical use in urban areas as well a 'sniper' or dmr role. Extrapolation from shooting a 10" and 18" side by side, both with aggressive brakes.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад
Apparently, 23" is the longest barrel you can put on x39 before it starts slowing down.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
@@ScottKenny1978 when people say that the first thing I want to do is prove them wrong by getting an absurdly long barrel. Ever hear of the article written years ago by guys playing with a .32acp? They went longer before it caused any significant issues, and the case capacity is much much smaller.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад
@@randomidiot8142 depends on how much bullet is in contact with the barrel. .32acp bullet is less than half the length of x39.
@Hughie1987
@Hughie1987 3 года назад
PSL like mine in the back, 7.62x54R gang here
@facundocorradini
@facundocorradini 3 года назад
Looking forward to the test with that PSL :D
@winkleried
@winkleried 3 года назад
Ditto
@fujimi715
@fujimi715 Год назад
Never thought I'd see an accurate hit at 800m with a 7.62 x 39
@ztbmarine
@ztbmarine 3 года назад
I wonder what kind of velocity you get coming out of that long barrel
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
Probably 1-200 fps higher than 'normal'. The reduced muzzle blast would be nice for field use.
@spencerclark6113
@spencerclark6113 3 года назад
According to Two Rivers Arms on their website, the sniper variant has a muzzle velocity of 2400fps
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