A short film produced by Pathe News around 1905 that brought attention to famine in Ireland in that year. The film has been altered and is used to draw similarities to the early famine of 1846-50.
From a Connacht Irish. Before fighting each other remember 15 mill Brits were inmates 5 million died. Where I am from in Ire. There are 800 unmarked graves in Drimore west alone. The brits too were tossed like garbage and 1921-24 England abandoned their soldiers without rations or supplies. All men suffer. Irish or English. Please do not teach your children to hate. Teach them to help the poor and hungry whatever your identity take care of your families too. We are not governments- how we treat others is our sole responsibility and how we honor God the trinity by remembering what we are all taught. We can not leave our churches catholic or protestant and continue to hate. We can better ourselves. Hate is the cup intended to poison the other, but it is us who drink from it. It does not change the past or future productively. Instead we leave no lamp to light the darkness
Irishs are great nation, hard workers, respectful, family people and correct peoples. unit and serios in there relationships. Love Ireland From Madrid, Spain.
People in my mother's family emigrated after the Famine. It devastated families, tore them apart. Many of them left at 18 and never saw their families or homes again.
Susan Santiago slavery is still practiced in Africa, its a part of the cultural mindset. I believe the slaves there will happily take there turn to dominate another. I am not a hater that's just the way it is. I have found Africans to be friendly, generous, pragmatic in solving problems or making decisions. They have their dark side as we all do. Its in them, its in my people, its in you.
Susan Santiago Yes, that was a terrible chapter also. There have been many times in human history where people have been forced to leave their homeland, never to return.
Susan Santiago It is very popular to explain away all the ills and troubles of the earth begin with white Europeans. Africans kings eagerly sold the excess of slaves captured in war. This was explained to me personally by an African friend who could count his ancestors back fourteen generations. The system of slavery was in place and ready export. So tell me who has the biggest fault, those who bought them or those who sold them? If you speak to an African about this today he will most likely shrug his shoulders and ask why worry about something that happened in slave times? The discussion in this time only has the purpose of pulling down the white man.
scottowensbyable Thank you for this information. Yes, even today, Africa has major problems, none of the least being its treatment of women. It has the highest rate of rape in the world but women's groups and their strength are growing on that continent. But, the fact remains that European white men were responsible for the slaughter of many people of color. Even in the U.S., the white men slaughtered thousands of indigenous people for their own greedy purposes (land, minerals, etc.) and stole land from the Mexicans, Native Americans, etc. Perhaps the ills and troubles of the world did and does not begins with white European [men], perhaps it is all men who have a insatiable need for power and or greed that is systemic from the male hormone testosterone?
Our 'rockbound soil' was largely due to the deforestation by the English. Ireland was once a heavily forested island, and between English shipbuilding, and the deliberate deforestation due to the difficulty of fighting the Irish in their native forests, the island was stripped and has never recovered/been replanted. No trees, no annual mulch enriching and building new soil.
So very true and typical of. those yrs ,All way's after the $ bleeding bastards , How hard would've it bean 2 replenish the turf , People first snott the other way round 🤔😭🌍
Deforestation started well before England’s colonial activity. My ancestors cleared trees for farming which also helped lead to the bogs. We’ve been clearing the trees for thousands of years. Like the modern age, very little effort goes into replanting. We have ourselves to blame.
I’ve read some unadulterated tosh in my time but this bullcrap takes the biscuit. The west of Ireland has a higher than average rainfall and the soil is naturally poor. The land was not deforested by the horrible English. The soil was poor and not much, apart from potatoes, could be grown there.
Also my fathers uncle was James connolly who played a big role fighting for Irish Independence and was executed while doing so.We are still proud of him almost 100 years later.
A local mountain near us at home is called Molly Mountain..it was named after the Molly Maguire's by the locals...there is also a pub in the area called Molly Maguire's ...this was an organisation that was formed out of the anger of the eviction of an old woman called Molly Maguire...they organised around Ireland and then in the Coal Mines of Pennsylvania ...they shot landlord agents and landlords when they got the chance....In London they would be reported as villains in truth they were heroes!
British navy ship's stopped food aid coming from the USA to Ireland after the British had taken all the food out of ireland and they gave the Irish people Indian corn instead, which was really hard and almost impossible to digest, it became known as peels brimstone.
I'm half English, half Irish. It was the ruling classes in England that did this, don't forget. There was massive poverty in England at the time. I mean, my God, we used to send children up chimneys!
And set up workhouses that forced people who couldnt pay rent to go, burnt down their homes, seperated families, arrested them if they tried to leave(because they were wearing sacking that the workhouse made them wear and were 'stealing' from the workhouse) starved them, overworked them, let them freeze to death if they got sick and threw them in mass graves.
And don't forget the English political class used to criticise the Irish for not being able to feed their own people (the old prejudice part of this, that the Irish have too many children). Whereas in reality, the English could not feed themselves.
Cecil Woodham-Smith, an authority on the Irish Famine, wrote in The Great Hunger; Ireland 18451849 that no issue has provoked so much anger and embittered relations between England and Ireland as "the indisputable fact that huge quantities of food were exported from Ireland to England throughout the period when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation." Ireland remained a net exporter of food throughout most of the five-year famine.
It isn't so much the English people, but the government in England. I am English and I love the Irish people. I have many Irish friends. There are many Irish people here in Nottinghamshire who immigrated to England.
In 1845, Ottoman Sultan Abdülmecid declared his intention to send 10,000 sterling to Irish farmers but Queen Victoria requested that the Sultan send only 1,000 sterling, because she had sent only 2,000 sterling. The Sultan sent the 1,000 sterling but also secretly sent 3 ships full of food. The English courts tried to block the ships, but the food arrived at Drogheda harbour and was left there by Ottoman sailors.[72][73]
@msmissy6888, It’s true all right ... During the Great Famine in Ireland of the 1840s, Ottoman Sultan Abdülmecid (pronounced Abdul Majid) donated £1,000 to famine relief (equivalent to between US$84,000 and US$216,000 in 2019). A letter written by Irish notables in the Ottoman archives explicitly thanks the Sultan for his help.
I am so proud of my people and I am so proud to be Irish god bless them all because without them I don't think any of us would be here hard life for them god bless everyone l love you xxxx
Love how we all like to point out that we’re irish, hope there’s no Americans trying to do that. U can say u have Irish ancestry but saying ur irish isn’t exactly correct. I think that only goes if you have irish parents so ur irish American I think
Plenty of food could have been grown on the land, but the best of the land had been seized by the ruling class. Millions of pounds of grain and cattle was exported through Irish ports to England during the famine, while the population starved.
This is a famine film from 1905. Famine didn't end in Ireland in the late 1840s. If you have no money to buy seed or food you would simply starve. As you stated little changed in Ireland over many years so this was the best way to inform young people about a country they have little knowledge of and of a time in distant memory. The questions I believe are not ignorant but were pitched at the level of ability I was aiming at. I value your comment and good luck to you!
Those that immigrated to New York City really had a complete change. I can't imagine how overwhelmed they must of felt. The saddest part is that they first arrived in Staten Island to be evaluated. Some died on the way, and others arrived so I'll. They didn't even register these people and just left them to die and be buried in massive graves. They are only now respecting the dead by trying to identify them. If immigrants wanted to get to Manhattan, they had to buy another ticket. Many Catholic churches on Staten Island were all Irish parishioners. God bless the Irish!
My ancestor William McYoung was one of lucky ones that escaped North West Ireland around 1847 and landed in Canada. His son William Elton McYoung was born in Toledo Ohio in 1858. W.E McYoung made his way to West Virginia in the 1880's as a lumberjack. His son my Grandfather Delbert was born in 1904 in the Western part of West Virginia. Great great grandfather William from Ireland was a true survivor.
in 1845, the onset of the Great Irish Famine resulted in over a million deaths. Ottoman Sultan Khaleefah Abdul-Majid I declared his intention to send 10,000 sterling to Irish farmers but Queen Victoria requested that the Sultan send only 1,000 sterling, because she had sent only 2,000 sterling herself.e Sultan sent the 1,000 sterling but also secretly sent 5 ships full of food. The English courts tried to block the ships, but the food arrived in Drogheda harbor and was left there by Ottoman Sailors...not bullshit .proven by letters.original letter is avaible online
LagimFaresi true story. I’ve heard exactly that. She refused his 10000 so she wouldn’t look bad for giving only 2000 ( to what she presumably regarded as her own loyal citizens) forget the starving people eh it’s all about how one might be perceived.
Those Indians sent much corn that Ireland was never able to receive as England stole every cob for themselves. Do read your history. Irish went to visit that specific tribe just to thank the Indians with their care and what they tried to do for us. The West Coast of America hate the English.Mexicans despise the English as well.Hope Harry does not think he wiould be welcome near any Mexican. The Irish are cared for by Mexicans. When I travelled through Arizona I was asked "Are You English" I replied,No,Im actually Irish Donegal/Sligo" Thaan on America's East Coast you have Fightin' Irish that have no respect at'tallfor any English and you would actually be seeking to fight a local lad .E'rin L F
My great grandfather was born in Cork County in 1856; somehow some of his family survived the Famines; when he was a very young teenager he emigrated to London. One of his daughters married a Jew and they lived together in London for the rest of their long, long lives. Time is Mutability; we are what we were and also what we are and also what we may be too?
the second scene, showing the donkey cart being loaded up at the foot of a hill, with a stone gateway at the top of the hill, was shot in An Spidéal, Co. Galway. The road leads northwards up to Baile Ard. The scene shows premises just across the road from Tí Hughes. There's another scene, later, which could be Ros an Mhíl, c.10miles west of An Spidéal.
no i'm not looking for something that was visually recorded at a time when motion cameras weren't invented. It's crap, deceitful video with ridiculous irritating questions being constantly put up over the recording.
Define casement, because l'm from Texas and my lrish ancestors left lreland in the 1760's. I know we call things differently than y'all do in lreland and Great Britain.
This would be an excellent introduction to The Great Hunger / The irish Famine for students at any level. It is simplistic but the images and questions set up a longing for information in our minds. The cheery, Enya music, I feel is inappropriate when you consider how many people died of starvation due to the British genocide of the Irish people. It's a start.
Ireland's population could easily be 20+ million today had it been run properly from 1800 onwards. A bit of economic development and domestic independence where people were treated right and Ireland would have flourished.
They worked from sun up to sun down, for so little... The weather, was gray and gloomy, the Sun only appeared once in awhile behind the clouds. The rains and storms were treacherous. Survival at its finest...
The title of the film makes it plain it was filmed in 1905, there were a number of famines before An Gorta Mor and some minor ones after. One of the ones before An Gorta Mor was a very severe one but is now not all that well known.
Although obviously not showing the famine of the 1840s, this is still a moving film. I wouldn't be here and I wouldn't be English if it weren't for my ancestors moving to England, duiring the 1840s. God bless their souls, God bless Ireland and God forgive the British.
A British politician just noted that by using "food" and Irelands reliance the Brits can force their Brexit plans on Irish who should have nothing to say in the matter.
Do you honestly believe they had a choice? I'm Canadian and haven't forgotten about the movement of slave children out of Ireland and Liverpool. Our ancestors were sent to repopulate all of the so called British colonies. British Home Workers is the "preferred" label.
Yeah I'd like to have lived in that day of the times because people where kind hearted and looked out for each other I guess the Irish have always been that way with good souls amongst them and still do in the 21st century if I could live my life over again I'd be Irish as I believe the Irish are the most loving kind hearted souls on the earth yet they suffered a lot of loss in their times but I guess so has the people of the world why do innocent people suffer so much in the hands of greed yet 21st century's here and our innocent children still suffer so dose the innocent people my heart blood and soul loves the Irish guess that must be why I love Irish music so much haha
1880 my grandfathers young parents had to emigrate to Australia with two of their children ( Only fares they could afford ) leaving my 10 month old grandfather and his 3 year old brother in the care of their maternal grandmother never any of them to see each other again....
You call it the "Potato famine", i called it by its correct title Genocide. The "Potato Famine" was a story that was created by the English and Anglo-Irish media, politicians and landowners to mask their thinly vailed intentions and to save them from their responsibility, shame and crimes. Do you know that if the English were not occupying from the 1600's onward's. We would we be a large nation of 20 million+ now, We wouldn't have been one of the poorest nations in Europe for centuries only finally fulfilling our potential two generations after independence, We wouldn't have the alcohol abuse problem, the Catholic church wouldn't have had the power they had and the subsequent misery and social crimes they created wouldn't have taken place, our ancient language would not have been killed, there would be no Irish gypsies, we wouldn't have had the gombeen corrupt political culture which caused the recent financial mess and we wouldn't be made fun of as dumb road diggers in the UK!. All that suffering is blamed on our own doing, our cause and so our fault based on "faulty character traits" and a "backward Celtic culture" , in the past when people were religious, they just used to say it was "God's will" and before genetics were uncovered that we were a "white/aboriginal mixture, not European like the rest of western Europe" and that the advanced pre-historic Newgrange structure must have been built by Egyptions!. Therefore since its down to us and our faults we become fair game to be made fun of by the perpetrators. The problem is most Irish don't know the truth and hold these ignorant thoughts deep in their psyche. A book you should read "The Famine Plot" by Tim Pat Coogan. One of the rare examples of the full commentary on the truth.
Only problem with your argument will morgan is that Ireland has been independent for nearly a century now, so it's had plenty of time to solve or at least mitigate the problems you list. It hasn't happened though, has it? The first major event after independence was a civil war, like the country really needed that, followed by decades of social oppression by the Church which Irish (NOT British) governments happily allowed, and just lately the capitulation to international financial bodies which has put each Irish person in around 15,000 euro worth of debt. All the fault of the British you say?!
boanergesblitzen The conditions you list happened due to the British oppression. Problems do not simply go away when the oppression stops. The irish drink abuse culture for instance is deeply embedded. The Brits peace agreement which set up the Irish free state was made to destabilize the island, civil war was the natural progression of this. The church had the power for centuries since irish national leadership was disposed of and kept away. The church ran the country. The sell out to international finance by a handful of corrupt irish politicians is also explained by the oppression. Many factors there. It is not the Irish people who are at fault for the problems you scumbag. Although its no use complaining but rather acting. Something unfortunately the Irish have learned not to do in their oppression. Anyway England has been destroyed,WW2 crippled the empire and the Zionists are destroying your race through immigration and your economy through debt and inflation. Pump and dump is their strategy with England. The effects of this will be clear soon enough.
will morgan Oh dearie dearie me, I struck a nerve somewhere didn't I? I think I can safely assume that you aren't Irish, or at least were not educated in Ireland. Someone who was would have presented a far more eloquent argument and been much more inventive with their insults. I can't be bothered to correct your last message as it more or less repeats the previous one, but your mention of Zionism - goodness knows why in a thread on Ireland - prompts me to compare Ireland and Israel. On the face of it both have much in common, having fought for their independence from Britain in the first half of the last century. Both countries have many supporters living abroad, particularly in the US, a lot of whom are in positions of power ..... and that's about it for similarities. After that the balance changes considerably. Upon independence Ireland had to have its civil war as I've mentioned, while Israel had a real one, for its survival, which it won. It won again in 1967 and 1973, is doing a pretty good job of securing it's borders, and can be considered a regional power. Ireland by contrast, when attacked in 1973 (Dublin/Monaghan bombings) closed down the investigation as soon as decently possible. For defence it must rely on the UK, which you choose to revile. Israel has several indigenous world class industries, machine tools and software for example, while most large Irish industries are multinationals who set up here because it suited them to, and will leave again when it suits. Ireland could do a lot worse than to emulate Israel if it wants to progress in this world. Failing that it needs to wake up to the fact that the unimaginative, corrupt and ineffectual right wing governments of FF/FG have had their day, and need to go. The recent local elections when SF and Independents kicked the government parties and FF out of many seats may be a precursor of much needed change here. Tell us, which part of Ireland do you live in? Or do you hail from Boston or Cricklewood?
boanergesblitzen You do not have a clue.. When i speak of the UK/England. I speak of the leadership, not the people. Your argument that as soon as independence is won that the effects of the centuries long brutal oppression will cease to exist is complete nonsense. Even the civil war you blame on the Irish. The civil war was a calculated result by the Brits. You therefore infer that its the Irish people who are at fault for the problems and that is why your dumb or a scumbag. If the English leaderships hadn't touched Ireland since the 16th century , Ireland would be a different country. Firstly it would be Irish speaking, there would be no sectarian battles on the island. It would have had the capital formation to produce indigenous industry like the rest of western Europe (instead of being one of the poorest nations of Europe for centuries), it wouldn't have had the Celtic tiger banking bubble or IMF banking bailout transferred to the people. No famines. No drink problem, no catholic church rule. Strong Irish leadership. Population would be above 25 million. There is in fact no other nation in the world which has been mistreated for so long. The crime now is that many do not link the problems with the mistreatment. With the poverty, social and political problems in East European societies these days who are free from the soviets for 20 years the link between soviet mistreatment and the resulting problems is known. I mentioned Zionists as they control the UK, immigration, media, banking and foreign policy. Assumed your from the UK. No comparison between Ireland and Israel. Now that you mention the rogue state of Israel, the only reason it exists is that Zionists control the US military and has received hundreds of billions in aid from the US and Germany. Zionists also control media, finance, banking, academics and politicians in the west. Without this control Israel would not exist. Alcohol Abuse 400 years of extreme poverty, shame, starvation and persecution suffered under English colonial rule. The living conditions of the Irish peasantry during the 17th and 18th centuries were indeed abominable. Periodic famine led to life-threatening starvation, fatal diseases, illegal dispossession of lands through eviction, and forcible banishment to barren and inhospitable regions of the country. The miserable lot of Ireland’s Catholic poor declined to an even greater extent after 1691, when the draconian Penal Laws were introduced by the English “to further impoverish the Irish, prevent the growth of Popery, and eliminate Irish land ownership.” By the early 1600s, heavy drinking was widespread among the peasant classes in Ireland and the aristocratic landowners (who were mostly English Protestant and rich, with a small minority of Catholics). Using land agents, English landlords mercilessly exploited the small Irish farmers and the cottiers for all they were worth - which was, in reality, next to nothing. To dull the chronic pain of hunger and humiliation, the irish peasantry drank home-distilled poitin, made from potatoes or grain, while the upper classes guzzled imported beer, brandy and wine in massive amounts. At one time it was said that every second cottage had a poitin still, which could legally produce up to 12 gallons of uisgue beatha (Irish whiskey) at a time. Around 1780, evicted tenants began to form secret societies such as Rapparees, Rockites and White Boys, to conduct terrorist activities against landlords and others thought to represent the hated colonial government. These dangerous guerrilla actions were usually carried out at night, by young men undoubtedly bolstered by generous draughts of high-quality poitin. In the early part of the 19th century primogeniture was introduced, and this granting of land ownership to the firstborn male in the family, where previously the land had been divided up between the male heirs, produced a sizable group of unemployed single men - dubbed the bachelor group. For many of this group, manhood was defined by their tolerance for alcohol and physical pain. Their hard drinking and faction fighting activities were often supported by the community as a form of remission for the social and sexual privations they were expected to endure on behalf of society. Then came the death-dealing potato blight of 1845-1852, seven years of social, economic, and spiritual devastation. In just seven years, an entire class of Irish people (poor Catholics) came close to being wiped out by starvation, disease and English governmental policy, aided and abetted by land agents and others Even if genocide was not consciously intended, the forced migration during and after the famine of two million Irish Catholics to North America , England and elsewhere in the world jeopardized the nation’s future by destabilizing the intellectual, cultural, and political life of the country. What awaited these emigrants in the land of promise was poverty worse than anything they had known in Ireland and a seemingly impenetrable wall of racial prejudice and religious discrimination. In England, alcoholism and chronic drunkenness took a frightful toll on the Irish immigrants in terms of economic failure, pathological family relationships, intimate and public violence, and crime. The net effect of religious persecution, land rape, extreme poverty and intermittent abuse of military power by English colonists in Ireland during 700 years of continuous occupation was to produce a national inferiority complex in Irish which I identify as cultural malignant shame, characterized by chronic fear, suppressed rage, self-loathing, procrastination, low self-esteem, false pride and a vulnerability to use alcohol as remission for suffering Population reduction and poverty Based on GDP per capita and population, making comparisons with the countries that make up the rest of western Europe. 1. Ireland has saw its GDP per capita rise the most out of all countries from 1922 (Independence year) to present, double the growth of the UK. 2.From 1922 to present our population rose 40%. 2% more than the UK. Pre-Republic of Ireland 1. From the year 1700 to present out of all the other western European countries our population increased the least. 220%. The average increase in the other countries was 655%. 2. From the year 1820, the year i next have data for all countries, Compared to present the population change is even more drastic compared to the other countries. Population Declined 40% when all the others increased by at least 50%. The average increase was 256%.
Ireland had a larger population than England during the famine! How was England expected to produce enough food for twice the number of people with half the resources? Ireland would have done the same if it was England that was starving. and Ireland was actually producing enough food during the famine yet they were exporting it because they are a greedy people, it was a self inflicted famine.
It's hard to draw any comparisons from this video to the famine of the 1840's and 50's once you have researched the effects and eye witness accounts. It was so extreme it's hard to imagine
O'Callaghan is an anglecised version of Ó Ceileacháin. (descendent of Ceileach) who was the a king of Munster from the Eóganachta dynasty. So, yeah it is Irish. Upton is an anglo/saxon name derived from old english meaning from the upper farm. So, yeah it is English. :-)
Chris Standford i know Upton is an English name but the Upton name in my family was brought over from England to Ireland in the early 1600's and then back to England when my great grandfather came to England iv'e been told we were land owners when the Upton side of my family were in Ireland.
The first land act wasn't passed until 1870 and the last in 1903 when English and Irish nobility were forced to sell the land to the Irish who had toiled in it's fields for generations. Land that had belonged to their Irish and Viking ancestors before Cromwell.
The system of landlordism imposed by the anti Catholic land confiscations and Penal Laws, which had only recently been repealed, as well as the bans on Catholic education and on them entering the legal and other professions and public office and thereby being too poor to pay rent without going without food was to blame.
Meanwhile, the Irish watched with increasing anger as boatloads of home-grown oats and grain departed on schedule from their shores for shipment to England. Food riots erupted in ports such as Youghal near Cork where peasants tried unsuccessfully to confiscate a boatload of oats. At Dungarvan in County Waterford, British troops were pelted with stones and fired 26 shots into the crowd, killing two peasants and wounding several others......
British government policy. Ireland was Britain's grocery store, and supplied it with fruit, vegetables, potatoes, meat, fish, grain, all through the famine. The only abundant thing that provided enough left over was the potato. When those crops failed there was nothing else left, it was all still being exported. All through the famine Ireland was a net EXPORTER of food, despite the fact its people were starving. Kindly British administration. Thanks a million.
They are all dead now,the overfed landlord who watched the gaunt child chew on grass for sustenance,the faithfull,praying to the heaven's,the charitable who gave half of nothing for it was all they posessed,and they who turned away in denial.They are all dead now,equal in death.From IRELAND.
The man loading the cart with the big sacks I thought he would never stop the cart and big load and he seemed to be climbing up as well and the little donkey so small that one no harm is gone.
I wouldn't have liked to have been poor in any part of Ireland in the middle of the 19 century, not just in Connemara. I wish some people would stop living in the past and stop hating. You can't change the past you can only change the future. Let go of the negatively and think positive.
+Martin Markey Do you say the same to Jews and Slaves world wide? As much as we may need to forgive, that won't happen until they take responsibility for their actions and at least admit to as much. Additionally, people should never forget these events, there are actually 3 separate genocides of the Irish by the British. And why it needs to be remembered is due to the fact that the Irish are credited with saving Western Civilization by saving and copying the texts of scholarship, philosophy, medicine...and this is how they were repaid? Is 1968 too far in the past for you to take notice of? The year Irish Catholics finally gained Civil Rights in their own Country! What you are suggesting is what is termed "Navel Gazing"...hoping if you just keep a positive outlook everything will turn out alright. Well, it doesn't work like that, rather, you must stay vigilant. 6,257,456 died because of the British decisions made over those 4 years.
Do you mean the forests the Brits stole are replanted and productive today? Do you believe grandparents who starved on the roads are totally forgotten? Do you think the stolen wealth of centuries of labor has been returned? If you think the acts of the past do affect the present you are an idiot ! ! !
I do not understand something. Before Europeans came to America, there were no potatoes in Europe. So what did the Irish eat before they had potatoes? what was their diet? Why didn't they go back to that diet when they saw that the potatoes were bad?
Please read the info on this film. I make no claim that this is from the Famine of 1846-50. Film as we know it did not exist until the end of the 19th Century. There was a famine in the west of Ireland in 1905 and Pathe recorded this footage.
It's a fact that the large majority of landlords were English and that the British Government could have forced them to take action regarding the famine or intervened more effectively and earlier, itself.
The first book I mentioned shows that almost three times as much grain and meal was imported into Ireland than was exported out.and the figures are based on the returns which are held at Kew Gardens. The same figures appear in The Great Irish Potato Famine by James Donnelly (Sutton Publishing, 2002) The Irish Labour History Museum, Beggars Bush Barracks, Haddington Rd, Dublin has articles, journals and resources relating to the same.
Meat, eggs, oats and other food produce left Ireland during the famine, and was sent to England. Food was abundant but the people were too poor to buy any of it. I very much doubt the records at that state they helped by importing cheap no nutritional grain. Also when the grain was available they had to pay for it, by building roads to no where, working while they disproportionately at a disadvantage in a cruel system that made them tenets, rent payers or squatters in their own land. British absentee Landlords controlled the land and any work the Irish people did, was to pay the high rent, leaving they with no option or food source bar the potatoes. Laws were inforced that a Catholic could not own land, go to school, ect.
Wrong ... A wide variety of commodities left Ireland during 1847, including peas, beans, onions, rabbits, salmon, oysters, herring, lard, honey, tongues, animal skins, rags, shoes, soap, glue and seed. The most shocking export figures concern butter. “document truth is worth more than opinion”
Ireland is the most beautiful country in the world! And its magnificent place to live!Ireland and the Irish are the most welcomed nationality all over the World. But we do have to get our act together before we have no county left. "He who doesn´t know his own history will have to re-live it" We have to work the land,bogs and build up again. Its up to us to work and educate! Remember the Irish have been there for everyone and everyone wants to say they are related to the Irish or they are Irish.
I believe people who have surplus wealth (that is, more wealth than they need to live a comfortable existence) have a moral obligation to use their surplus wealth to help those who are unable to provide for their basic needs. In my view, those with surplus wealth who fail to do so fail in their duty as human beings. Unfortunately, the selfishness displayed during the Irish famine is still being displayed today. This is because both extremely wealthy people and extreme poverty still exists.
I wouldn't formulate it quite like that. I would say that if someone is unable to provide for the needs of potential children than they have a moral obligation not to have children. Some people live a quite happy existence in very poor areas. If there is no way at all the potential child can have a happy existence than I think it is wrong to bring the child into the world.
Sunny Quackers actually Ireland (the garden of europe)was providing food for over 2million english people even at the peak of the famine. The irish were not allowed to eat any crop apart from potato by force of law. Even Ireland exported potato to england all thought the genocide.
@@sgt7 we the poor. cannot even shoot a rabbit everything belongs to someone else. we are the only animal that is totally controlled by others, we even have to pay for the most important thing in life WATER.
@seonidh I am happy your family did as you say they did. Mine however were given land by the Crown. So they did take the land, many left eventually for the colonies. We were about to fight another set of battles. Keeping each occurence in history in context helps one teach others, which I do. Ironically, my family is part of the Norman conquest as a direct descendant by two lines to Charlemagne himself.
For those of you who think this was not a holocaust - read this: "Queen Victoria's economist, Nassau Senior, expressed his fear that existing policies "will not kill more than one million Irish in 1848 and that will scarcely be enough to do much good." Now tell me it wasn't intentional that over 5 million Irish people died of starvation!
Pathe News began in 1910. The film is NOT from the time of The Great Hunger. it is later than that, early 20th Century. The time from 1900 to 1999 is classed as the 20th centuary. The Great Hunger happened between 1845 and 1849 which is classed as the 19th century. The GH happened due to the potato blight, the blight happened across Europe too. The Irish land owners used it to their benefit and evicted the small holders on their land. In 1879 the blight returned but this time the Irish gathered forces and stopped the land owners from evicting people so not as many died,
In Spring 1845,when the blight was first recognised £100,000 of Indian corn was imported into Ireland. The result was that there was no excess mortality. Above and beyond the Poor Law system which was already in place, a relief programme was put in place in 1847 and by mid August three million people were being fed every day.In 1847 exports from Ireland reached their lowest level ever whilst net grain imports reached three quarters of a million.
Don't forget the American Indian tribe who sent money to Ireland for the relief of the horrendous famine. They still keep in touch with Ireland to this day. Wonderful. ❤️
Please consider asking the questions and adding your commentary to the area provided for text instead of superimposing it over top of the entire scene of the film in large type. The film is wonderful and ought to be seen unaltered. Thanks.
The British PM arranged for the importation of Indian corn (maize) from the USA, A Relief Commission was appointed to provide oversight for the various relief efforts. In contrast to earlier years when maize was imported only in very small quantities, Ireland imported 122 tons in 1846. Maize imports climbed to 632 tons in 1847. It has been estimated that a total of 3 million persons were supported by these public works projects. Soup kitchens also were feeding 3 million persons. I am Irish btw.
After nearly 900 years of Protestant rule at that time in Ireland, Irish people were still hemorrhaging after the famine ... In fact, the most glaring cause of the famine was not a plant disease, but England's long-running political hegemony over Ireland. The English conquered Ireland, several times, and took ownership of vast agricultural territory. ... The Irish suffered from many famines under English rule ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6znv9iBGX6w.html
Never was a famine in Ireland, hundreds of tons of food were exported to feed the British army in whatever countries they were invading at the time, sorry make that tens of thousands tons of food.
Are you aware that Irish people were just as responsible for the empire, you can't just act like the Irish weren't also in the army and weren't also building colonies
@@JohnSmith-yv2tl Only because Ireland had been conquered by England and were British subjects. Ireland wound not have the resources or the inclination to take other peoples country,s from them.
@@JohnSmith-yv2tl Some Irish not all.Films like this Failure of the potato,as if the Irish did not like meat.The latter to expensive to eat.A people on the knees,after penal laws.schools banded Landless ,leaves a population totally ignorant and little better then the animals.The great Famine was one of many .The people were crushed mind and spirit.Those who went on to join the British imperial system,were naturally wrong regardless of poverty,or other reasons.That is the nature of the world we live in.Sad truth is History is written by the victors,as this film ,most likely filmed in the 1920ths Tries to make out Ireland was some Help hole,no pictures of Golden Vail and vast fertile land .If we were to see real Famine film,we be shocked walking dead,They collapse the shacks on top of the rat eaten dead.All this despite the Act of Union,Where the London Government were obligated to feed ,or better again,stop the food leaving Irish ports.Such is History much of it not taught in Schools lest it offend.
