Popsicle sticks saved the day for me!!! I used them as a wedge on the short, lower side of the angled shoe. Insert them at the top, then break off the rest of the stick. Do it as close to the top as possible, since it will be a very snug fit and potentially scrape the side of the baluster as you push it up. Then simply tighten the side screw. No need to mess with glue, and you also get the bonus feature of eating a ton of popsicles😁 ($3 for a 150 pack of sticks at Walmart)
I DID IT!!! I have the solution!!!!!! I was faced with this and saw your video!!!! Drilling a hole in the top of the baluster (first make sure everything is lined up!), then using the set screw to tighten fixes this problem... NO GLUE OR UGLY SCREWS!! Wish I could do a video to show you!!!!! I'm ssooo excited. The set screw is long enough to go through the shoe and baluster. BIG WIN!!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who took the drill to tap approach. I was reading all of these comments thinking why has no one drilled it out? And then I read your comment and knew that we are the only 2 here with an above average IQ 🤣 🤣 🤣 I'm pretty sure it's the only correct way to install these
Yep. The set screw is supposed to hit that hole in the top of the baluster. But the balusters have to be cut down from the top which makes the hole useless. Thanks for the tip. I glued them, clamped them up and they haven’t gone anywhere.
Thank you for posting this. This really helped my predicament. I had an actual contractor install these and he just used the set screw. Of course it looks like $HIT. I'm gonna go over his work and do what you did.
I just put some 3M double sided tape directly on the balusters side opposite of the set screw. It’s a bit thicker and compresses. For some tough ones, 2 pieces did the trick.
Ugggh! We’re having the same problem! I like the hot glue idea with the construction adhesive. Also, I’m planning on filling any remaining gaps with plastic wood and then painting it black. As long as you can’t see light thru the uneven areas, they wouldn’t be noticeable. Thanks for the video and I must say you HD quality is definitely on point! Lol
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I'm seeing this issue as well but I believe it is because my knee wall angle is 45 degrees and many of these slant shoes are set at like 40 degrees. I found a few people talking about how the cut these or use a belt sander to get it closer to the angle they need so you may want to check that first. I put mine on a scrap piece of baluster and tightened up the set screw and you can see it forces it straight to the baluster (at least mine does) but when you try to install it on an angle different than 40 it looks like it lifts away. Just something to think about. I may ultimately just glue them as you suggest but I am still looking around for alternatives. LMKWYT.
I cut small wedges out of wood to put inside the shoes opposite of the screw to keep them from pulling away from the stair rail when tightened. It seems to have worked.
Found that issue when I did my first stairs ended up ripping down small scabs of wood as shims and installing on the opposite side of the set screw. It helps to use pine so if it's slightly over you can compress it with the set screw to get the correct angle and it's even tighter
You described my current problem perfectly; besides the vertical skew on the baluster, there is also a rotational skew since the set screw is just a point contact that will rotate the shoe vertically and horizontally. You're absolutely right that the situation becomes obvious (and unsightly) when you look at the handrails at eye level. I will try your technique on one baluster to see how it works and hopefully its the solution I'm looking for. Thanks for the post.
I’m having the issues now. I’ve used a drill to make a small hole into the balusters aligned with the angles shoe hole and put a very small black screw to hold the shoe in place with the balusters
I noticed the same problem as I was installing the shoes. If you look at the shoe from the top, you can see what is happening. There is a small gap opposite of the set screw between the spindle and the show, which allows the shoe to cant. What I decided to do, was to place a small shim on the opposite side of the set screw between the spindle and the shoe. This prevented the tilt.
What did you use for a shim? I am thinking there might be some thin washers out there at the right diameter which would prevent washer from slipping through.
I got my chop out and cut 1/4" x 1/2 ×5/8 MDF shims worked like a charm Lil bit of a pain sure wish manufacturer would have just done this for us in the high dollar shoes they sell but whatever it was easy everyone would be doing it
I wish they made a two part screw in assembly. If they made something that you could screw in and then snap a cover over it that looked into that would be great. It would do two things. One you wouldn’t have to drill into the tread or railing for the baluster and second it would cover the screws.
Easiest way to fix this issue is drill a hole at top of shoe and run a screw through it, i can use a flat countersink screw if u want it flush or one that comes with the kit, works perfectly
Thanks so much for this video! I'm up against the same problem on an otherwise pretty flawless renovation/installation. (I inherited the hand rail, outside my scope, and the originally bored holes are unsightly, requiring the pitch shoes.) Could you indulge a dumb question? Could you describe exactly what surfaces and how you applied the mastic and hot glue to avoid making a big mess? Thank you.
I put it on the top surface of the baluster. Where I point in the video is pretty accurate. A small dab of hot glue on one side and another of adhesive on the other. I used black hot glue in case of any running, but didn't have any issues. Also, someone mentioned in the comments to hold in place with cloths line clips. By that method you may be able to get rid of the hot glue all together and just do a small dab of adhesive on each side. The placement of the adhesive may also depend on what the inside of your angled shoe looks like. You could experiment with hot glue on a few to see what works best then move to using adhesive.
@@MaverickMakersUSA Thank you very much. I rewatched your video after posting and saw that you pointed to the exact areas you describe. As for temporarily keeping the shoes from falling down, I think strategic wrap of painter's tape just underneath them could prove sufficient. I'll experiment.
