Iron Fist Training! Karate and Jeet Kune Do 

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I believe you are speaking about the Ball often seen in Tai Chi training. Tai Chi tends to use large circular movements in its forms / teaching... however... the more skilled that you get, the smaller that you can tighten those movements up. The weighted ball, much like Tai Chi forms... is to be practiced with slow movements... and in a very "Relaxed" way (virtually no muscle tension). These sessions should be a minimum of 1 hour. That is about the amount of time it takes for your Joints / Tendons (and other tissues), to become adequately stressed, to the point of "Development". The goal, is to develop relaxed, unified, full body mass power... without using mere Strength / Muscular force. The Joints / Tendons should become more elastic.. bit also MUCH Stronger. One should do this every other day, as a minimum... and maintain that for several months, without missing any sessions / days. It will probably take anywhere from 3 to 6 months, but could take up to a year or more... depending on your existing body condition. You will be able to then accept the OPs forces into your structure and tendons... and you can absorb and store that energy... then Release it.. causing them to Fly like +10 ft away from you (if you chose an explosive push, rather than an internal based hit). There are a lot of other things that happen from slow-motion 1hr form training. Including developing more connections within your brain, which gives you a sort of Super-Conscious level of awareness. Its like being able to know 50 different data points... all at the same time... without having to shift mental focus from one place to another. It all becomes Instant, and thoughtless. And there is a lot more details... but it would take a few more pages worth of text to type it all out. If anyone thinks that slow motion training isnt worthwhile... I challenge you to try do do pushups in slow motion. At least 8 seconds down, and 8 seconds up.. for each pushup. Most people probably wont make it to 15 of these... even those that can do +100 standard fast paced pushups. But remember, that one of the keys to any development in Tai Chi / Internal arts practices at all... is in learning to refrain from using muscle tension. You want the bare minimal amount of tension... just enough to keep your limbs from failing to hold you/them up. Your body should feel very "Heavy" like you just emerged from the water, and your clothing is sopping wet.. and very heavy. Also, its not like you are merely waiving your arm through the air. Instead.. you are connecting that arm to your entire body mass... and so, if anyone were trying to use their single arms strength against your arm... they would easily be over-powered... because you are using your entire body mass against their arm. Even if they are 2x stronger than you... they wont be able to maintain a grip on you, when you are whipping your entire body mass... in conjunction with your arm. I had created my own version, that used the same principles.. but it was more Linear, rather than Circular. I had an adjustable strap that Id put around my wrist... and on the other end of the strap, was a special "Hook", where I could add long metal bar "weights". I would move my arm from the center of my chest... to full extension... and then back to the chest. Repeat that for like 5 minutes, in slow motion (about 60 seconds to extend, and 60 seconds to retract). Rest for a moment, then swap arms. Do two sets for each arm, for a little over 20 minutes of this training exercise. You should never start out using an arm weight... before being able to do a 1hr session, without any extra mass at all. And when you start using extra mass.. you need to make sure that it does not strain you to the point where you start using Muscle strength, to try to force your arms up. If you notice your shoulders are rising fully upwards (rather than level and relaxed), and severely straining to try to maintain your arm on a perfectly level and straight line... then you need to reduce the amount of mass... or you will only cause improper development... and wont develop true "Internal Power". I had 3 Different Wing Chun teachers. Only One of them, knew the proper INTERNAL (slow motion) training methods... and he was also the only one to make us perform the it for an Entire Hour (repeat the 1st form four times, back to back, without any rests). He made us do this at least 4 classes in a row. But of course, for you to get any real value from this work... you have to do this stuff out of class, on a regular basis (of which I did... and I attained incredible internal developments, a few months worth of work later). I never would have guesses such training would have produced such dramatic improvements to my martial arts combat abilities... but I was open minded, willing to put in the efforts.. and was rewarded for my blind faith and hardcore efforts. A lot of people today, lack this level of patience, and the willpower to train that many consecutive hours + intensity... and thus, this incredible knowledge, and skills, are being Lost to ignorance and laziness.

@@johndough8115 Many thanks for your input! Mr. Adkins was a Sandan in Judo when he and his brother heard of Mr. Ohshima, recently arrived from Japan and a Shotokan Godan (the highest rank awarded by Master Funakoshi). That was in the mid 1950s. It took months for them to track Mr. Ohshima down as he didn’t advertise himself. They both started training with Mr. Ohshima, but at some point Mr. Adkin’s brother started Chinese Martial Arts. Mr. Adkins acquired some background in Chinese MA, but I don’t know what or how. I do know that he did, as mentioned above, Chinese Iron Ball and I know that he had mastered Chinese Bo Kata. After I retired, I moved to an area of CA where there were no people from my Karate organization that I knew of. So I started training in a park with very slow movements. I settled on the most basic Kata in Shotokan (just down-blocks and front punches). I learned a lot breaking that Kata down. It changed the timing of my punches and the initiations of my movements. I think I’ll take your suggestions re the Iron Ball and start doing the movements slowly. Again, thanks!

​@@donelmore2540 As you might know, that Karate was in fact, a branch from A Chinese art. I believe it was White Crane Kung Fu. Some Japanese travelers were in China.. saw them practicing the art, and asked to join. I would guess that they probably didnt get to learn the Full art, due to how much time that most Chinese arts take to learn and fully master. The Chinese also may have chosen to keep certain higher level things, a secret. You have to earn your skills, as well as prove that you are trustworthy, and "Safe". Ive heard that they used to start training their fighters, as young as 3 yrs old... and deep arts like Tai Chi, used to take like 15 to 20 yrs to fully learn and fully master. For many people, that level of time and work... is just Too much... and so a lot of people try to use various "Shortcut" methods, to reduce that time. (Whether that be, to remove certain skillsets, or remove various Attribute training methods) The basics levels of many Kung Fu styles, typically start out as simple as possible, and use "Hard Force" (brute muscle power / strength). You also tend to do a LOT of hardcore "Iron Body" conditioning, as well as a lot of Flexibility training, and Strength building drills. The goal, is to build the fighters foundations, so that they are Strong, Flexible, and can Eat hits that would seriously harm / end anyone else. Once that body type has been developed, you get into the Technical sides of things. First, with large general movements... and at the higher levels... tighter circles, and "soft-skill" movements. Soft Skills are some of the more difficult movements to learn and master... and you need to develop that special "Internal Bodytype", for them to even function at their best. But while Soft methods are some of the most effective and powerful... if you didnt have that previous hardcore conditioning, and general muscle development... then you would likely end up accidentally eating a single hit.. and the fight would be over. Anyway... Grappling arts like Judo, are a kind of "Soft" art.. in that you tend to "Listen" to what the OP is trying to do.. and then react accordingly. The stiffer that you are, the more likely that the OP will be able to take advantage of your structure and position. Being soft, fluid, and adaptable.. makes it much harder for the OP to read you, and to be able to Uproot you. In this processes, you may inadvertently develop some Internal Strength... because there may be moments when you are resisting with relaxed structure, rather than purely tensed muscular resistance. The difference, would be that specific attribute development methods, yield faster and much more profound results. And rather than developing a broad "Hammer" like method... with higher level methods, you become more like a Surgeon. Incredible levels of Precision, that go down to the Millimeter levels of accuracy, in positions, coordinated movements, sub-second timings, and precise vector angles. When I started doing Wing Chun.. I originally used it like a Hard Style. And in fact, that can actually work well.. especially when going up against OPs that are about the same strength and skill level as you. However, when challenging a much larger and stronger fighter.. of at least similar levels of skill.. this hard-force method will not work well.. because the OP will basically "Stone Wall" your attempts to force their limbs to move. Not only that... but there was a whole other level of Power Generation, that I was missing. For example.. there is a tech called Jut-Sao, in which you drop your arm vertically downwards, to deflect the OPs attack to your abdomen. When done with heavy muscle force (mainly, the arms muscles themselves)... it will deflect the attack easily.. and might even be painful to the OPs arm.. BUT... it still wont be that bad for the OP... However, when I learned and Mastered Internal Power... things were Very different. Rather than using the arm muscles... you drop your entire body mass vertically downwards with the arm, at the same time. You connect all of that moving mass on impact, with a lightning quick surge of tension. At that point, its like you are dropping a +150 lb (my original fighting weight, when I was young) mass... onto their attacking arm. But its even worst than that... because your body mass is moving at super-sonic speeds, due to that quick tension pulse. I once did this internal powered deflection on an MMA fighter... with only about 10% of the power that I was capable of delivering. Not only did it deflect and stop his attack cold.. but it nearly shattered his bones. In about an hours time, he was in severe pain.. and the area where we connected, near the wristbone... his injury had swollen up nearly double in size. Id gotten reports from a friend, that the man was complaining about the pains, for many days to follow. Now... to be fair, we had both agreed to keep things at Medium (safe) levels of power. However, he lost his temped, when he was not able to get any hits on me. So when he tried his Combination (high left hook, followed immediately up by a low-line right towards my abdomen), he amped up to full speed, full body power, with actual intent to cause harm. This caused the impact forces to Multiply dramatically. As such, my normally harmless 10%... turned into more like a 30% level impact, which ended up being a very damaging level of power. Of course, Internal power doesnt have to be just for Hitting, either. Early on, I was with a fellow martial arts friend, and we were trying to replicate one of Tai Chi's "Push Hand" drills. Two men at an arms distance away.. and staring with our arms lightly resting on each others arms. One laying on the forearm (I believe).. with the other resting on the elbow. Both start to move the arms, in a larger sized circular motion.. and at any moments time, you could choose to try to Palm (push) the OP, to try to make him take a step. If the OP so much as takes a single step form his rooted stance.. then you win that round. In order to prevent that.. you need to be able to feel the OPs attacking arms intent, and then use the proper arm + body movements, to nullify its energy... Well, at one point, he manages to circle around my left arm to get "Inside", and launches a powerful palmstrike towards my chest. My right arms hand was still resting on his attacking arms elbow. I didnt know the proper method of dealing with this.. but Instinctually, I grasped the elbow more firmly, and as his palm started to hit the surface of my chest... Something amazing happened... Because my arm was now locked to his mass... the moment I started to Accelerate backwards away from him (about an inch or less of movement).. this movement basically caused me to unintentionally PULL his own body towards me. And so all of his pushing energy turned into my Pulling energy. This caused him to be uprooted, as he ended up stepping past the side of me.. and as he was staring to get close to me.. I actually turned my whole torso / hips, shifting my weight to my one postleg, while actually PULLING his arm towards the opposite side of me. And as he started to pass me, I sank further downwards, and Yanked my arm really hard and fast, making him accelerate away from me even faster. Mind you.. this fighter was nearly 2x my mass and strength. He Rocketed past me.. and wasnt able to fully stop himself, until he was about 15 ft away from me. Thats no exaggeration either... as honestly.. it may have been much closer to 20 ft. After this, he was like "What the Hell just Happened?! I had you with a solid hit.. and then it was as if you vanished!" We took a few moments to try to figure out what had just taken place.. as when these things happen, its in your "Mindless" state, and at great speed. Eventually, I figured it out, and showed him step by step. At this point, he was so blown away by this.. that he refused to do any more pushhands with me. He was like "Nope. Im done". lol. It was as if he witnessed Actual Magic, and or, his Ego was so bruised, that he simply had to walk away. That said, it was an absolutely Epic moment. Of course, if I had actually learned the proper methods, I likely would never have gotten struck at all.. and still would have had a similar result.

@@johndough8115 It is widely accepted that southern Chinese Kung Fu experts came to Okinawa and taught local Martial Arts practitioners from time to time and their techniques were blended with native techniques. Records are very spotty on the history of Karate in Okinawa due to the “Rain of steel” during WWII destroying all the records according to Mr. Ohshima. I first saw pushing hands or “sticky fingers” at Madison Square Garden, NYC in 1967 during Bruce Lee’s demonstration. That was the first time I ever saw Chuck Norris too. I used to teach sticky fingers when I had my own Dojo. I really liked how it made me more sensitive to my opponent’s movements. I joined a small Tai Chi group in Pismo Beach, CA some years back. I’m not sure the teacher was very skillful, but I got the impression that his senior student might have had some skill. They knew that I had an extensive background in Karate and one day they asked me to demonstrate stepping forward from a front stance. The Senior student was able to make a correct observation about the movement of my foot as it transitioned from the back foot to the front foot. In San Luis Obispo, CA, there is a female Tai Chi instructor who is very highly regarded. I had a couple of healthcare providers that trained with her and they were very complimentary toward her.

@@donelmore2540 A lot of the modern Tai Chi practitioners, were never taught the full combat system. Only the exercise version of it. I wish I grew up In CA... as I would have tried to train under Dr. Yang Jwing Ming. I have some of his books (hes like an Encyclopedia of information), and watched a few of his instructional videos... Ive also seen some clips of him doing form work... and I can tell that dude is on a whole other level, than most others. He has books and vids on books on Tai Chi, White Crane, Qigong, and much more, including many traditional Chinese weapons (The actual combat drills... not just the Forms). You were quite lucky to have witnessed Lee. Very cool indeed. I was born when Lee was passing. And I was unable to start training in the arts, until I was 20 yrs old. But then, I felt I was held back so long... that I trained like a madmad, to try to "Catch Up". Lee was one of my inspirations.. and so when I learned that Lee started out with Wing Chun.. I decided to take that same Art. I was also very lucky that my City hosted one of the largest Wing Chun schools in the USA. Sadly, it moved away shortly after I joined. But I had gotten a Lot of knowledge and skills, before that happened. And I would later learn other arts methods (cross training), as well as found some other WC schools to develop a bit further. Ohh... Another big name in Tai Chi, is Chen Xiaowang. He has some of the most Scary levels of Short Range power, that Ive ever witnessed. Search Chen Xiaowang fajing and watch him issue it in the air. His entire body shakes violently.. even his legs continue to shake, after he Issues. Ive heard that he once was asked to do a demo for another martial artist.. and he performed a zero-inch demo (where you start out touching, and just surge forwards). He accidentally used too much power, and ended up cracking a few of the artists ribs. Ive heard that he used to get artists from all over China, to travel to challenge him in-person... and he was never defeated. He became so famous, that his village became a hot-bed center for Tai Chi training. Cheers

verdade!!! espero que eles passem mais conhecimento sobre o Jeet Kune Do 😃

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Im going to add... that Lee only trained with a small hard object.. while traveling... or when in-between training... when he wasnt near any serious training equipment. I believe Lee not only had a hardcore work Ethic.. but that he also may have had OCD. As such, he almost never stopped training... and so, him carrying around something to condition with, was not something unusual for Lee. That said, it wasnt his MAIN method of conditioning.

I know exactly what you're talking about with the herbal remedy. In cantonese, it sounds kind of like "Steel Hit Alcohol" pronounced like "teet dah jiaou." Super common in chinese households to use for massaging/rubbing (usually vigorously) into bruises to help them heal faster, or other muscle/joint aches and pains.

If you do Iron Fist training Correctly, you do no damages to yourself.. and thus, have no Dexterity issues. I started Iron Fist conditioning, when I was 20. Im now 50 yrs old. I am both a Martial Artists, and an Artists that draws + paints. Ive never lost my ability to draw.. nor suffered any kind of long term pain / issues. In fact, it helps to Prevent you from getting damaged. Though, this training should be on a canvas wall-bag packed full of Coarse Grain beach sand. And maybe after 1yr of that... you could also have hit a bag that is filled with Metal BBs. In addition to hitting these bags... I also hit my own body parts, with my own fists, chops, etc... while doing continuous deep breathing. These sessions should be at least 1hr long, IMO... and should be every day, or every other day.. as a minimum. Also, when doing this kind of training, you use a special Chinese all-natural herbal solution, called "Dit Da Jow". Its applied before, and after training. You only need a few drops, per hand, and you massage it into the tissue. The properly made Jow, is very powerful. Ive had people come up to me with very swollen injuries... and I rubbed some of my Jow on their injury... and they would always come back to me in less than 5 minutes of time... completely ecstatic... showing me that there was no sign of any swelling, and that either ALL... or most of the pain.. was completely gone. This Jow is made with natural plants and other organic material... placed into an Alcohol base, and is let to sit for at least 1 year, to develop healing special compounds.. to their highest level of potency (the longer the aging, the more potent the Jow). Western Scientists have done analysis on Traditionally made Jows, and some Modern made Synthetic versions of it. They found that the Synthetic versions didnt have a fraction of the number of these special "Compounds". And in my own personal testing, I can confirm, that the synthetic Jow is utterly worthless, in comparison. When using the proper healing Jow, as well as the proper breathing method... and by only Gradually increasing ones Intensity, and on the correct Equipment.. you will never develop Abnormal looking fists. Even your skin, will retain its flexibility, and will not crack and flake off... like as seen by this Karate practitioner. However, internally... your bones, tendons, and other tissues... will become Dense like IRON. Especially after a few deep breaths, to get your circulation going.

What do you think would be "Different" ? A punching/kick bag, is a very soft bag. Usually filled with shredded fibers and or ground up foam material. Its good for developing Penetration Strength... because it takes a certain amount of strength to push deeply into the material. However, these do not really represent a Hardened Human body mass, realistically. Tightened Muscle, is far more "Solid" than any Punching bag. Furthermore... these bags easily move on their chain pivot.. by the mere pressure of a single Pinky-Finger. A 250 lb attackers body... charging full steam at you... is going to be VERY different from your passive 100 lb kick bag, that easily moves away from your strikes. Even when hitting the bag as it comes back towards you... isnt enough to replicate a real Human target. I used to train both. I trained my fists, on a static concrete-wall-mounted sandbag, packed with Coarse grain beach sand. I also had a special free-hanging bag, filled with about 15 lbs worth of steel BBs. I also had two kick bags. One was a shorter, lighter (75 or less lbs), and less dense punching bag. The other was a 6ft tall, 100 lb, Real Leather, Muay Thai style kick-bag, that cost me a little over $300. Each target has its own use and advantages... The sandbags do not move... they only conform to the shape of your knuckles.. and then right after that.. become hard as a rock. Since they dont move... that means that all of your body... from your fists to the floor... gets stressed from each impact... strengthening you internally.. in a way that no punching bag can Duplicate. Not even close to it. However, as said.. the punching bags are good for developing the strength to drive deeply into the target... in more of a penetrating / pushing way. This means that certain muscles are being worked and developed... which only help to add to your potential impact abilities. So, when you combine these methods... you get Fists that are like IRON balls... with the choice of using Internal strikes (damaging the OPs internals, and barely moving them), or using Penetration strikes (less chance of internal ruptures.. and can often take the OP right off of their feet, as you push them backwards past their point of balance). Those that Only ever hit a punching bag... especially those that only train with Gloves + Tapped Wrists on... are not ever going to be prepared to hit a real attacker in the Head... without suffering broken knuckles. Those that have trained on the sandbag for at least a year, should never have to worry about breaking their knuckles (nor wrists), when hitting the OPs head with their bare fists.

@@johndough8115 sir I am interested in your training methods. Do you have WhatsApp or Telegram, Instagram or facebook? Where we can discuss it more detailed. Maybe you can share your approach on conditioning. Thank you in advance

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