IRON from SAND - Oldest form of iron smelting 

"Lead into gold" was a fundamental misunderstanding by people who weren't let in on the trade secret: lead is used in a more-or-less consumable fashion during the process of refining gold, and to a casual observer it *appears* that the lead is turning into gold. In reality, the lead is basically separating the impurities from the gold and carrying them away.

@@noiwonttellyoumyname.4385 is this gold-mercury amalgamation you’re talking about?

@@drakesmith471 No. Mercury can vaporize at room temp, so it's gone by the time gold melts. Lead melts at slightly lower temp than gold so it absorbs most of the contaminates, when the lead and gold solidify, giving you a purer form of gold.

But here's my big question (about so many things): how/why did anyone think to do this in the first place? What made some man think, "I want to make a material that doesn't exist and that I know nothing about and, I have an idea of how to do it?" Like, whaling: what sailor, upon seeing the largest creatures on the planet (swimming in the ocean) said to his captain, "Hey Ahab, I've got an idea."

​@@leonardothefabulous3490 такая вещь есть, называется голод. Подвести под голод и можно выполнить.

Can you please teach me how to smelt iron ore

Demon king Scott I'm trying to teach myself as well, friend. From what I've seen, If you don't have a big fancy forge, you might be able to make a little one furnace out of just mud and bricks ect. I think you kinda just crush up the iron ore rocks and put them in the little furnace, then find a way to pump it or fan it with air to get it as hot as you can. Then you pull out whatever hot mess is inside and hammer it a bit and look for little metal bits and break them off. Then maybe try heating those up alone and hammering them together, or melt them if you can get it hot enough. Just the stuff I've picked up from watching RU-vid videos, I haven't done anything myself. I may try to learn from a blacksmith at some point

You people should learn how to also make coke from charcoal and also add some wood ashes (calcium carbonate, more commonly known as limestone). If you make the bloomeries a bit bigger and recycle its heat back to preheat the intake air, you can easily melt iron like a blast furnace.

Bob Gatewood Wood ashes in particular are something I've been interested in lately. I don't know much about coke though

@@andrewprahst2529 coke burns a lot hotter than plain charcoal, it is a purer form of carbon: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--IqnebH4n4k.html About the ashes, the mix of calcium carbonate and potassium carbonate will react with the silica and silicates in the iron ore, binding them and easing the process of removing impurities from iron. Ashes from sodium rich plants, such as glasswork, work best. I recommend to also make clay molds so that, when you tap the slag, it can be poured into these molds, producing some beautiful glass (making glass is also a challenging process, so I facepalm at how much of it is wasted by metallurgists).

I appreciate all of your cottage efforts doing the real hands on deal...I got to see enormous heats and the entire process working at Bethlehem steel, Sparrows Point in the 70's to 2000's...

IRON MAKING VIDEOS ru-vid.com/show-UC5zGSn-svPs9QETPcYMAOzg

they cant simply DO IT. !

@Buro Dackel good luck in life.

@Buro Dackel Are you okay little person? Where is your mother? Are you lost?

Thanks for the great service putting this together! I used headphones and it was fair enough but that's just me - kudos for going the extra mile on the captioning!

The music playing constantly makes this issue way worse. The talking is actually fine the few times the music drops out but I find this basically unlistenable with the music and the youtube compression.

@Buro Dackel Omg, you are so cute! Does your mommy know you watch youtube? She should really talk to your teachers about your spelling and grammar though!

Hi Celeste. Nice job. You are a lovely and talented woman.

Celeste you are are the best part of this whole video, your enthusiasm is contagious!

@@laurenmabe4932 thank you! It's also a testament to good editing.

Sphagnum moss is peat moss

Have you tried adding a hot blast system to the intake air?

making crucible steel is better OwO

So true and many fail to achieve what they have achieved...it was truly incredible

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​@@lordblack9984 years, but crucible steel is flawed sadly. Since it has a really high carbon content, a treated crucible sword would essentially be like wielding a giant file

They were the great minds of their day. We still have people like that, we just don't hear about them and they aren't glorified on reality tv and the like.

How they made iron tools, rings, etc, in the ancient ages?

Iys called 'the sense of accomplishment' you get at the end after you sweat your ass off for hours lol

I think it's a sense of independence. Knowing that you have the knowledge to create anything you want with some effort. Being dependent on companies to provide for you feels limiting. This sharing of knowledge is very liberating.

Jerry Whidby can you share me any knowledge, I’m studying chemistry and I’m way in over my head and i think sand has a lot of meaning if I could melt it

Jerry Whidby it's not though...everything they've done was using modern methods and tech...they basically used a leaf blower bellows and also used a magnet to extract iron from sand lmfao this wasn't an experiment it was literally just playing around with iron smelting. If they wanted to do it for real they would have built a kiln, built bellows, and had someone manually bellowing, heating iron ore, crushing it up, heating etc, not...this...this isn't historic lol people didn't have magnets, they heated up pure sand which worked because it was flax and iron already.

that’s why our modern lives are meaningless as fuck.

They did have high quality ores such as mochi tetsu, which is basically high purity magnetite/lodestones. These were abundant and easy to aquire. For folding, only about 10 or so times depending if it was iron or steel.

Current day Japanese swordsmiths use the exact same technique… (yes, they still exist).

Very intriguing!

That is interesting, except for 2 things. First, the ancient hittites and egyptians lived at a lattitude that never saw snow ... winters were/are very temperate in their region. Second, with the temp inside the forge pushing 2300-2500F, a few tens of degrees difference on ambient air aint gonna have a lot of impact.

Indeed even modern Blastfurnaces heat preheat the air

But colder air also means more oxigen per volume.. Also heat looses through the walls get increased when colder...interesting!!

The poor timing probably more relates to their own personal weapon-making tempo. "Sorry, bro. This is the season we devote to the military contracts, try again later."

*fucking dies*

It's pretty closely related. We handbuild the furnace and the treat iron like clay

You should watch some videos from Japan on traditional tamahagane smelting ... they use black sand.

did you ever produce metal from ore? or was it only used for melting/remelting?

@@supersonic060 when I was there we only forged from stock or scrap metal.

Check his website. The follow-up vid is there, and a few comments about why he pulled it from youtube. I expect he'll be back here soon.

Please some back what?

Dr. Lex Winter *come Also didn’t know you had a website. Will check out immediately. Thanks for the replies.

NICE! Do you have any photos from this time?

@@sagebrushrepair I didn't take any pictures of the festivities. It took place at Tai Goo's workshop out in the desert north of Tucson. Tai's a Master Bladesmith and has a website that may have some shots from the weekend some years ago.

The negative comments are from people who have never done anything in the real world. Looking through some of their channels it looks like they are just virtual activities, gaming.

@@tinayoga8844 couldn't be that the "___" have insulted and memory holed so many people that anything associated with them is going to be attacked.

I don't see them

I hope you got it on video!

@@MrUbiquitousTech it is classified now. Them Saharas do not want me to share the secret of sand.

@@1337fraggzb00N Darn, that could have been revolutionary!

@@MrUbiquitousTech indeed, old chap, indeed.

@Joe Devola No waiting involved, it's just what she said every time after our carnal interludes. Great video, but you can't lob me up a free shot alike that and expect me not to take a swing at it.

Buro Dackel You're an epic dick.

You don't really want to make rust by letting it oxidize

goldassayer93555 The long iron pipe taking the air in would also heat up and would begin to pre-heat the air fairly quickly but just not as well as a double-walled furnace.

Aww. Thank you. It's a labor of love

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It won't disappoint. It's just unspeakably awesome.

as a former metal worker and demolition specialist, when it comes to sledgehammers... there is no such thing as gently

🦐

I was worried we would 😂

@@americanlivesmatter-BmanWild And yeah, this was the last one...

Yep, without the flux you will need to burn much hotter.

If you use iron ore, there are a lot of silicates in it. These would normally be the flux, they only had to add Sand, because their Source of iron was very pure.

Thank you for that. That's what I get for trusting a social sciences text book!

Being as it meant life or death you can say the motivation was there.

Bog ores the mind.

2000 years.

I can second that recommendation.

There's got to be a joke in there somewhere...

they do it twice ,, to be sure to be sure !!

I bet it always smelt bad

We have large natural gas forges

@MrLeading Entertainment there’s no way to know for sure who was first. One thing is for sure, the whole world benefits from it today. The world doesn’t benefit from hyper sensitive, constantly offended, history revisionist liberals. So take another pill and put your mask back on. FYI - Trump, the man of steel, is getting four more years because of voters like me.

@MrLeading Entertainment Not taking anything away from the independent discovery in Africa but the Hittites were the first to smelt iron about 1000 years before the Haya did. They first smelted iron around 1500 bce not 500bce as the time table you supplied for the Haya. However if they were reliably making steel at that time that is an impressive accomplishment at that period. Universities were created first by the Ethiopian empire though.

They had white africans back then?

@@oldstudbuck3583 oh yeah , bring that devil of a being into it. Someone should smelt a piece of lead and give it to him yesterday. Give it to him fast , like super sonic between the eyes. Trump can F off to hell. He won’t be in Whitehouse again thank glob.

True, like a spine of some sort. Unique, nevertheless.

@@Blackridge. Yeah, right!Or a ribcage or something

Only the worthy can wield the meteorite dagger of legend

Iron was not invented

@Michael Otten and super cool

fitofight non-stupid people understood what the comment meant. did you understand?

Iron itself is foreign to earth, it could be the meteor ur talking about, however no one invented iron as it was discovered no created.

The history really is a difficult lineage to trace. I have yet to find a good single source for it. Iron making techniques developed at various different times throughout the world but it's hard to find specifics. I will definitely read that article. I have heard speculation that iron making started earlier than 1500. As far as the dagger in the tomb it has large amounts of nickel in it, which is to this day only found in iron from meteorites. Thank you for sharing!

@@clayandsteel people knew to make steel kept it to them, like with wootz steel, African, Indian & Chinese steel, while those who bragged about it always seem to forget who showed it to them... I remember reading about how the first roman gladios made from steel, where made in the Rhineland (either Gauls, or Germanic people. Would be typical for us to sell weapons to everyone, foe included... Kind of a German tradition), but the whole 'holy roman empire' put lots of effort in reclaiming those people savages... History is severely broken. It would help a lot, if every historian would be required to do an apprenticeship as either carpenter, stone Mason, or blacksmith.

But blast furnaces produce cast iron, don't they? Wouldn't it be unsuitable for forging unless it was decarburized? Wouldn't that also require folding given the process reintroduces impurities into the overall steel?

@@jonajo9757 nowdays an o2 lance does the trick, back in the day it did involve folding, or any type of being forged, since being worked at reduces carbon content... the trick is to be done with it, when the content is just right... used to involve a lot of singing, or rhyming in order to get the timing and number of punches somewhat consistent and reproducable. how would it 'induce' impurities? smiths use the purest coal they can get, and/or coke it... c turns co2 and leaves the process. carbon can be reintroduced over the course of many ours, in an airtight box, at almost mething temperature when cut in stripes and mixed with coal powder... in general that's to be avoided and 'fresh' furnance steel can always be mixed with lower carbon scrap, in order to not having to work it _just_ to get the carbon out, since you always loose some steel to, due to oxidation, the more you work it. it's quite an art, when you have neither clock, nor thermometer, or any understanding of chemistry, atoms and the like, but apparently trial and error get's you quite a long way. hardness and purity of frankish swords also varied a lot, due to inconsistentcies in knowledge and/or source material, while the chineese equiped entire armies with very consistently produced swords of decent quality. enthusiasts that could afford it, could by very good ones, made from three to five layers and inlets of different carbon content, to get the hard edge and flexible spring hardened ridge.

You’re in luck. Looking like tomorrow.