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Iron making, another iron bar from an iron bloom (2022) 

Joey van der Steeg
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Making iron an iron bar from bloomery furnace sponge iron at Paul Klaasen's forge, Smederij Klein Project.
The sponge iron, bloomery iron was produced at the DRU in Ulft by Adrien Morat. Tata Steel pellets were used in the furnace to produce this iron bloom. Aiding by striking was luc Meeuwisse

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@alwaysbearded1
@alwaysbearded1 2 года назад
What a reminder of how much work it took for every piece of iron/steel produced before modern processes. I enjoy the detailed documentary of the process.
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 2 года назад
I really did miss Joey’s videos. Glad he’s uploading a few again. Been going back and rewatching old videos.
@bawrytr
@bawrytr 2 года назад
Great to see you making videos again Joey
@mrjacob8836
@mrjacob8836 Год назад
I hope you are well Joey. For some reason it occured to me today that I had not seen a video from you in a while. I just want to say thank you for sharing your knowlege with us over the years.
@brysonalden5414
@brysonalden5414 2 года назад
The process of making true Wootz was thought to have been lost for many decades. Videos like this are invaluable in that they show the process of turning a bloom into metal that can be worked with; it would be a crying shame if future generations of smiths didn't have videos like this one to refer to. Thanks for documenting the process.
@salterclan
@salterclan Год назад
I miss all of your old videos.
@jmikronis7376
@jmikronis7376 4 месяца назад
I don’t blacksmith at all but love to watch this one. I’ve watched it over and over, many times. I find it very relaxing.
@reubenjoseph910
@reubenjoseph910 Год назад
Miss your videos Sir, it was very informative to me. It would be nice to have them back again
@Jim-Wade
@Jim-Wade 2 года назад
This was the first time I've seen anyone do a longitudinal fold to build up layers. I'd like to see the pattern you got.
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 года назад
Would there be a pattern at all? Only one type steel was used.
@Jim-Wade
@Jim-Wade 2 года назад
@@davesmith5656 Probably, but it wouldn't likely show well.
@jonajo9757
@jonajo9757 Год назад
​@@Jim-WadeIf it was polished the same was Japanese swords were, then very likely. This was the case with a 7th century knife, and it showed the weld lines and hamon.
@Madlintelf
@Madlintelf 2 года назад
I'm so fascinated by the whole process, all that work just to get out all those impurities, I could only imagine how hard it is even with the power hammer.
@Apathymiller
@Apathymiller 2 года назад
Ive never blacksmithed so please dont jump all over me guys, im just asking a question: once ya get the bloom out of the fire, could you put it into a crucible and melt it down until it gets to a liquid state and then let it cool into a solid piece?
@TechnicusJoe
@TechnicusJoe 2 года назад
That's what they did as well. Though it was a difficult process and they did not understand the metallurgy as we understand it today. What is yielded from the crucibles isn't always the same, depending on the ore, either yielding great quality iron, even steel, or really crappy quality, and everything in between. Melting the bloom takes quite some time. Only much later you know if the iron or steel is any good, whilst using a lot of charcoal (precious fuel) Forging will tell you quite quickly if the iron/steel is worth processing and that is how it was processed for a long time.
@Apathymiller
@Apathymiller 2 года назад
@@TechnicusJoe thank you for answering, ive machined for decades but only recently became interested in the black smithing side of things. I didnt know if it was even possible to take a bloom and put it in a crucible & melt the bloom. Especially without modern equipment. Very entertaining video/channel. Thank you very much for sharing. Hope you & yours are well, & be safe buddy.
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 года назад
@@Apathymiller --- Videos showing traditional (very old) katana sword making, show that the bloom was broken up, the bits of steel sorted based on the texture of the break. All I know is what I've seen on videos, but it seems to fit that not all of a bloom is going to be the required quality. After sorting, they apparently added rice chaff to keep the carbon content, and judged everything by color of the steel. Making the bloom from iron sand or whatever took something like 36 hours of constant tending a huge furnace, by the head guy in the process.
@Apathymiller
@Apathymiller 2 года назад
@@davesmith5656 yeah without modern furnaces & equipment it seems it would take a very long time. Like you said there is varying degrees of quality in the bloom, good point. I was mainly curious if the bloom could even be done in a "wootz" style and melted down.
@jonajo9757
@jonajo9757 Год назад
​@@TechnicusJoeHow many folds do you usually perform when consolidating a bloom? Also any resources regarding that?
@cristianogillone3104
@cristianogillone3104 2 года назад
...now i see!... You're Technicus Joe! I've been following your old channel for long, i learnt so many things! Glad to see you again!!!
@markspc1
@markspc1 2 года назад
Joey, nice to see you doing videos again.
@ivo215
@ivo215 2 года назад
I love seeing the processes of metal being worked, allowing an insight into smithing. Your power hammer does quite the dance.
@jmikronis7376
@jmikronis7376 15 дней назад
Watching again while hunkering down for hurricane #Francine
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 2 года назад
DAYMN! Now I know what I'll be dreaming about tonight! What an amazing video! Blessings Y'all Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼‍♂️
@thesixfootsixblacksmith4772
I love these videos!
@ArchDudeify
@ArchDudeify Год назад
Super nice 🙇‍♂️
@DavidKirwanirl
@DavidKirwanirl 2 года назад
My god that is some effort 😂 huge respect to our ancestors!!
@gk6993
@gk6993 2 года назад
Will you post what you make from this bar? I'd like to see how you would turn this into something, please. Thanks
@thecorbies
@thecorbies 2 года назад
Hi Joey. My understanding - from watching yours, and other blacksmithing channels is that the actual forge welding process requires very quick, relatively light hammer blows. But, could you please explain why you use a double hammer technique first and then go on to the power hammer? I mean, could the power hammer not perform both functions with varying weight/frequency blows? Regards Mark in the UK
@holgerkysela9841
@holgerkysela9841 2 года назад
It is easier to sqeeze the slag out by hand. From middle to edge. They use the powerhammer only to s tretch it.
@jergarmar
@jergarmar 10 месяцев назад
I'm late to this video, trying to learn a bit about the process, are these guys using some kind of flux (like silica & borax or some such) when folding and hammering? Or does this process/material not require it?
@benjamindejonge3624
@benjamindejonge3624 2 года назад
This is the most satisfying thing true the centuries
@AlexandroMechina-yb3tf
@AlexandroMechina-yb3tf 10 месяцев назад
Question: At this point its mostly Iron or already can be considered steel? to be proper Steel you have to add carbon to it?
@FredKustomGarage
@FredKustomGarage 2 года назад
Magnifique 👍
@nativeflight7079
@nativeflight7079 Год назад
Are you using borax every time you heat up?
@xXMACEMANXx
@xXMACEMANXx 2 года назад
Are these blooms from multiple smelts of the same furnace, or chunks of bloom from one smelt?
@Thumper1944
@Thumper1944 8 месяцев назад
Question I never see you using flux, do you?
@tobi_neuberf6004
@tobi_neuberf6004 2 года назад
I've watched a lot of your videos and seems like you know quite a bit about anvils. I recently bought an anvil which has a heart with two arrows(they're at a 90° angle to each other) stamped into into it and I'm pretty sure that's the makers mark. Do you know what manufacturer that could be?
@JeremeSalazar
@JeremeSalazar 2 месяца назад
How to identify iron ore rich mineral soil? You never showed the bloom.
@TechnicusJoe
@TechnicusJoe 2 месяца назад
You clearly skipped the video if you did not see the bloom.
@blackgriffinxx
@blackgriffinxx 2 года назад
You can actually see it purity raise as they hammer and fold it. the iron make less scale the purer it gets. I wonder what it purity is before and after.
@richardbryant7972
@richardbryant7972 2 года назад
Is this like Wootz Damascus, because it’s bloomery steel, what’s the carbon content? Just curious what end result was on bloom. Love your videos as always
@TechnicusJoe
@TechnicusJoe 2 года назад
No, wootz is very different, this is just iron. Wrought iron.
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 года назад
Wootz Damascus started from one mine in the ME, not really near Damascus, but well south of it. The ore (now gone) had a particular content of trace minerals. Similar ore was later discovered in India. Wootz isn't folded pattern from different alloys; the pattern comes from the trace minerals, and even though parts of the smelting process are known or guessed at, apparently no one has succeeded in reproducing the alloy because the trace elements are present in too small a percentage for even today's analytics. You probably knew all that, from the same video I watched.
@petersabatie4181
@petersabatie4181 Год назад
WERE ARE THE OLD VIDEOS ??????????????????????????????
@stoneinthefield1
@stoneinthefield1 2 года назад
How do you know when you have folded enough?
@herbievanbeveren1314
@herbievanbeveren1314 Год назад
Hallo Joey, Geen kans dat je oude video "JoeDeSmid" terug actief worden? Om de trollen geen kans te geven, mogelijk zonder de "comments" actief te zetten? Je video zijn/waren echt goed. Mvg Herbie
@Hudsoncolo
@Hudsoncolo Год назад
Where have you been. Get back on RU-vid. The world needs to have a rebar anvil.
@CockatoobirdmanBill
@CockatoobirdmanBill 2 года назад
#2 looks about the same as #1 but you did not fold #1 ene to end at the end like you did with #2 will be neet to see it after you grind and etch it.......... be well and be safe
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 2 года назад
1st maybe! Let's watch
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 года назад
The closed captioning is funny, as usual, translating hammer blows into "so", and "foxes". What a creative artificial intelligence. Some day in an automobile it will issue a "Terrain! Terrain! Pull up! Pull up!" warning at a stop light.
@daltiejul
@daltiejul 2 года назад
A piece of iron or steel processed like this has got to be worth a lot given the amount of time and effort given to create it!?!?
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